Mackie MC-450 _(Z Reviews)_ An Affordable DT1990
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Just received them today :3 i am happy ... maybe a bit of a brake-in needed because left low Hz has higher dB in the left cup (where the wire comes in) then in the right where is more muffled.
Zeos 2020: Throw all your money at the wall until your wife leaves you. That's Audiophile! #classic
SSSshhhhhhhh don't tell my wife that, she still hasn't grasped that concept.On the other hand all of my Audiophile equipment for my wife has an "declared price tag" of around "150~170$" ;)
@@madbuldog lol so I am not the only one who does this
For those curious gamers the vmoda boom pro fits right into this and boom gaming headset
What’s the imaging like on these headphones?
I like my headphones to sound like Elastigirl, flat everywhere but oh that bass.
Hey Zeos any plans to review the Schiit Magnius? Would love to hear your opinion on it.
Yeah.
"monitoring" and "open-back"
i didn't think these words were going to be used in the same sentence
L😷L Strange World! 🤯
L😂L. Don’t get too serious with his review. This is a reaction video and not a review, don’t be confuse.
Why? Have you ever heard about AKG K240? They are in continues production since 1974
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@@WiiNV I had older K240 Moniotor 600 Ohm, K240 Studio, K242 HD (velur pads attached wire "home" version) and M220 massdrop edition. Ohh and K270 Studio closed back variant with 4 drivers (2 per side put at an angle). Those K270 where exceptional. Also K301, K530, K550 and K701. And Y50.
So I have the Mackie's and I think i prefer them to my PM3s not just the
dt990s. Got them pluged into a bifrost> vali 2 (EH 6CG7 Tube) High
Gain > Mackie mc-450s they destroy the 990s clean and actually I
think I prefer them to the PM3s they are an absolutely amazing set of
cans. The PM3s have the planar soudn and a bit of rumble which makes
them more fun with certain types of music but the Mackies just sound
right. I can't descrie it, but I consider these high end headphones
personally.
ZEOS YOU ARE SPOT ON
finally
headphones that can audiophile
The closed back version is the 350. It sells for $150.
"Affordable DT 1990s? Ah these must be like $100"
*Googles MC 450s*
*300 fckn dollars*
"Nope"
ouchie ouchie
They're $200 now.
@@shoryuquinn Chop it in half and we don't have a deal.
@@Quint_69 I'm guessing you have a very loose understanding of what affordable means. DT 1990 $599 MC-450 $299 or $199. Seems affordable to me.
@@turtturtleton2700 No I know what affordable means. Affordable means I don't have to spend most of my paycheck on them.
Just bought these Z. Of course because you reviewed them so positively and they are only $200? For an open back, professional monitor headphones? Unheard of! These, as you say, these are for mixing and mastering. You say you are astonished to say they have an amazing baseline and are not boring. Endangered species, what animal? LMAO! Great review man and I agree with you.
How did they turn out?
@@danielporter4194 Not good. Ended up returning them. Not for audiophiles. Cheap option for mixing, I think. They were just not providing the sound as I ft was to be represented from some of my other, actual highline cans. Like my Focal Pros, or my M & D MH-40. They just don't "fit" in to my taste in critical listening. They are built well physically, but for me, it ended there.
@@dcime1 thanks for the heads up. Glad I didn't get them. Sounds like we have similar tastes.
@@dcime1 M & D MH-40 are far far from reference cans that is a consumer can it is literally a bose for audiophiles that hate the word bose(fyi I like there sound). And the Focal Pros heard them not got for mixing good balance but there is a reason no studio uses them. But you are not critical listening you are listening on good consumer cans.
IDK how i missed this. THANK YOU PAPA Z.
You really need to check out the Austrian audio X55 or the Avantone Planar
Isn't the Focal Clear Professional meant for monitoring too?
I'd also recommend the Ollo Audio S4X for flat open studio headphones. They sound lush!
I'm not sure but I think the focal clear pro is the same as the standard focal clear but with an extra pair of pads and an other cable
@@nixx5490 I think you're right but it's definitely advertised by Focal as the headphone equivalent of their studio monitor speakers... Maybe Focal have been a little "creative" with their marketing on the Clear Pro's (given that the are essentially the same as the Clear)... But interesting to hear what ppl think, especially anyone who uses the Clear Pro's in the Studio
A lot of headphones are advertised as monitoring but those headphones arent flat enough imo
Did you ever test the closed back version (350)? They are quite cheap nowadays.
Slightly off-topic for this video, but something I'd like to share. I was looking for a new portable dac/amp because my Topping NX4 spends most of its time at home connected to my laptop and powering t50rp mkIII or dt990 250ohm. Zeos not long ago mentioned the iFi Hip Dac, and since I often use the bass boost on the Topping I decided to give it a try. I'm enjoying it so much for portable use that after roughly 2 months of use I've ordered the Zen Can to keep at home.
TL;DR : fuck you Zeos for costing me money, but bless you for your work.
I love your reviews this is great content
The wire holder looks like a solid place to put some IEMs for a travel setup
Nah Zeos don't feel like you can't say you like something when you actually do. I'm sure these Mackies are as good as you say. I got the Sivga because I trusted that if you liked it I probably would also, and I wasn't let down. Now that the honeymoon phase has ended on them, I still like them and will keep them. I'm not selling anything to replace them either, I'll just wait till I find something even more fun and I'm a sucker for wood cans. DMS can keep those 560s with it's paper thin low end. Still love my Beyer Amirons, Denon D2k lawton, Aeons and all the other randoms that I keep sitting around lol
did he ever listen to the close back version? im looking for some cans i can use when im on the road. which is 25% of my time
How do these compare to the X2HR? Would the imaging on these be better?
What about the 250s?
Review the new Kef LS 50 Meta next or riot
Very important question. Will you be getting the tin p2's? Just saw them on drop yesterday and can't w8 for a review of them.
I has them, Will review.
@@ZReviews UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Wonder if they are a noticeable step up from my P1s, which I love
Monitoring/neutral open back headphone is my fetish. YES PLEASE.
What professional studio environment actually uses high-end monitoring headphones? Most I've seen use relatively cheap ones like DT 240's, if they use "monitoring" headphones at all and not off-the-shelf speakers or headphones.
I think the vast majority of audio engineers do all their mixing and mastering on speakers, and headphone use is mostly reserved for musicians while tracking (thus, closed-back) with the possible exception of occasional detail work that benefits from taking the room out of the equation. However, if mixing/mastering at home in a less-than-ideal room for speakers, cans like these are probably a solid replacement. Headphones are probably also good to use for editing film/radio/podcast audio.
hows the sound stage and imaging? i use shp9500 as my gaming/standard use. (everything but music lol). would these be suitable replacements?
I too must know. Loved my 1990s for FPS gaming but had gave them up..
It isn't super wide. But will beat 9500's. Imaging is likely gonna be better just because.
@@ZReviews thank you papa Z
I am interested in these for gaming use too especially for competitive FPS. I am on Fidelio X2 plus the v moda boompro. wonder if these mackie work with v moda boompro too?
Would these not compete more closely with the ATH-R70X?
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you should try all the mackie mc series
How do these compare with the Sundaras?
Totally different sound. These are narrower and thicker.
How do all of these openback mixing and mastering headphones compare to the audeze el 8, are they over all better sounding or just more neutral or even more detailed?
what software do you use for music and how do you get your wallpapers as the background while still having text on the screen, I am highly interested.
awesome review! will you be reviewing the new mackie 8 inch sub?
They're $200 now. Worth it.
was just wondering if you would ever consider doing a review on the steelseries gamedac i have one but im under the impression its a gimic compared to some of the same price?
Hi zeos i recently baught a pair of klipsch rp 600m's and i was wondering what receiver would be a good match for these around the 300 or less price range. I am looking to connect the receiver to my desktop through the line out jack. Thank you in advance.
You got to check out the OllO S4X
Completely unrelated but can someone pls tell me if the fiio btr5 can drive the tin p1?
does it work with the V-MODA BoomPro Microphone? thanks 🙏
Sivga Phoenix or this??
Straight Pleasure? Phoenix. These can do work.
The Somic. Exactly.
Great marketing as always Z...
I cant think of any reason to not run my DT770s.
Still have my Superlux
WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT HD 600s??!?
Pp check price again 199 on Amazon for 450 this is a steal and good price
Um hello? AKG 712 Pro ........ ?? My all-time favs forgotten and ignored in this presentation. :)
Soft leather usually comes from sheep
When you gonna send me that K712 Pro ;) ?
I miss Chewbacca. Please Bring back your co-host.
She makes an appearance. And now she is allowed back in the basement. Had to remove bee
What about Shure srh1440
Off topic but what's that golden amp ?
FLUX Fa12s
These are $300 and the closed-back (MC-350) is $200. Interesting. Also, these are 42mm and the closed are 50mm
They realy look like Somic V2 headphones
yeah noticed the same thing
Because they really are a rembrand of Somic. Just like Status Audio OB-1 in the past. Well the pads are better and they add detachable cable. But its not a 300$ pair of headphones.
I want to buy a new budget pair of headphones. I need suggestions
Im considering these:
MDR-XB550AP
HD 400S
JBL Tune 500
Hey Z, what happened to the Verum Ones?
I have them. The end.
Lol Great Audiophile definition
Do these require a amp?
They're not that hard to drive, but yeah you want some form of amplification to get the most out of them.
I see that fucking Yotsugi figure 👀👀👀
These are over $400.00 CAD on amazon Canada. Too much and the cups don't look big enough for my ears either.
Why no buddy talking about this iems company!!!!
Wtf, I thought these are supposed to be "an affordable DT1990"? $300 and look cheap af. If that wasn't bad enough the sound demo makes it seem like an even worse deal. Isn't that headband the same thing that was on an old $28 headphone reviewed a long time ago? The sound demo definitely doesn't compare to a DT1990 either. There is clearly some funkiness going on if the sound demo is anything to go by.
They definitely inherit from the Somic MH463, which is not something that I would say durable
The sound demo means nothing. I do not even know why Zeos or anyone even bothers with them. There is absolutely nothing to be gained from listening to a sound demo of a headphone you do not own on a headphone or speakers you do own.
@@Nemo9291 Only shares a design similarity not same materials.
Zeos pls consider reviewing steelseries arctis pro wireless cuz they actually wont bring u back traumatizing memories of barney the dinosaur's theme song
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They look like adult Takstar Pro 82s
You sure that’s a running man? I thought he was doing the Egyptian lol
Reminded me of the Insane clown posse hatchet man lol
16:04 real face reveal :O I feel like you were gonna poke out my eyes
Just cause she's flat doesn't mean she's boring haha
Its quite weird.
I tried those same headphones at namm2020.
They were uncomfortably bright.
The high mids and the highs were so sharp and not in a good way.
And the bass sounded boomy and one not, as if the driver is slow to react.
Just like the ndh20 in this regard smooth boomy bass, and not fast transients ,it smears some details, that you can hear clearly on the dt1990 for example.
Also the ndh20 has a peak in the treble somewhere around 9 - 10khz, its not higher than the bass but it's super annoying.
The scooped mids make pianos sound like they're covered in a blanket.
And the sound stage is even worse than the Mackies.
It's a disgrace for these two headphones to be compared with the dt1990 pro.
I took my trusty Adam audio sp5 to the show.
And it destroyed these Mackies at every single category including soundstage.
From my visit to the show I ended up buying the Austrian audio hi x55 and the hedd audio headphone, both of which were magnificent and extremely detailed.
The dt1990, Adam audio sp5, Austrian audio hi-x55, are excellent professional headphones, they provide you with all the details without comprising anything, and have quality drivers in them, with great transients.
If your budget allows get the heddphone, its better but you won't be disappointed by those other options in the slightest.
I stopped reading when I looked at the sp5's.
@@mattialemboluscari8774 oh yes cause zeos hates it.
Lol
Meanwhile professionals gave it 5 stars, and it has an amazing frequency response graph.
And me myself I worked on video games sound effects as a side assignment, but I stopped due to covid.
So critical information needs to be presented at all times.
Zeos is no professional as far as I know, or see, lol he doesn't even show graphs ( which don't lie or have interests lol).
Me as a headphone enthusiast I use other headphones for enjoyment, but not for work.
@@sonicthehedgehog989 Yea and graphs can be completely meaning less. They just show a general idea of what the headphone sounds like. Dude talks about graphs but loves the ear rape that is an Ultrasone in sheeps clothing the Adam audio sp5.
@@turtturtleton2700 which happens to be the headphone I referenced when I said response graph.
I can understand that s-logic doesn't work with all people, which is a huge knock on ultrasone in general, but man when it works it works very well, it depends on the ears size and shape.
So according to what I hear and some other folks hear too, its amazing.
Hope that cleared the confusion capisce.
@@sonicthehedgehog989 So I have heard but ultrasone's and the SP5 are not neutral headphones very bright. And the SP5 did not get rave reviews some good but most echoing the same thing always echoed by and s logic phones that they are too bright to be considered neutral. One headphone that you can say got 5 star reviews and was reviewed almost everywhere would be the AKG K371.
status audio ob-1 shell
Looks exactly like the status ob-1 except with different pads and grill / backing.
They do have a similar build but i don't think it is a china rebrand.
They look like status audio ob-1's
Because those and Status Audio OB-1 were rebrand of Somic V2
Philips Fidelio x3 better
Mkay
Mackie is a company I respect but will never buy from... I give 0 fugs about monitoring equipment. I will say I sit at a local pro audio retailer that has a "monitoring studio" that you can demo their equipment at. I listened to the Yammy HS8, Audio A8X, and Focal Solo6 BE 6.5s and they were all quite impressive. Obviously each stepped up from a $350 per speaker to $750 to $1500 per but you could clearly hear the difference as you stepped up. I had fun demo'ing them for 90 min but not sure I would want to spend the cheddar to have them at my desk.
KZ ASX/ASF ^^^^^
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I bought the hd 560s and now im scared because these exists
No justifiable difference.
Stop making open-back reviews goddamnit!!! More closed-backs please!!!
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