One of the best things about the Internet is that it affords guys like Shaun and Wildman the ability to basically have their own talk show and we get to see it without any executives deciding if it should be given a green light. Shaun, Wildman... thank you for making these!
Any amount of time for any drug offense aside from a sale resulting in an overdose death is criminal. And even then 10-15 years should be the absolute maximum penalty
Haha bro you have no choice who your cell mate is, I'm Mexican and my celly was a 19 year old white boy with aids.. needless to say we got into it verbally but the heads talked it over and we squashed it. There is a code with cell mates if you have a problem you talk to the heads, then they take care of it for you the problem with this kid was his hygine.. that's a big deal in there you can't just be a slob
In California, they will cell you up with the same race when possible because the administration doesn't want problems. If you're a regular white guy who isn't affiliated with anything, you can't allow yourself to share a cell with a black guy or a Norteno (Northern Mexican gang member).
Shaun, and Pete. in a majorly bad place atm with my mental health, your books and these duo vids are keeping me sane and putting things into perspective. Bought hard time and can’t wait to be able to afford party time and prison time. Love you guys.
Thanks for these videos, both Shaun and Wildman. Thanks for sharing a unique perspective that I didn't know that I needed to hear. Keep up the great work, lads.
Love the content guys. One of my favourite youtube channels. Just a quick question for wildman; Are you in the process of writing a book or if not, have you considered starting one? Keep up the great stuff fellas, thanks.
Prison guards often" look the other way" (how do you think shit gets in prisons); guards are paid off!!! They're corrupt fuckheads....as criminal as the criminals...
They already know about it, they also know we put drugs in plastic bags and shove it down the toilet hole....they just don't give enough of a fuck to actually stick their hand down your fucking toilet.
What happens if someone takes an instant dislike to you in your first week and you have to fight. Not gang related or charge related. Are you entitled to bite an ear off/gouge an eye out or would that be too much or seen as crossing the line and make you a target?
Hi Shaun, I bought the book prison time and I’m halfway through it. Loving it by the way and my question is did you or wild man have any stories involving ex guards that got incarcerated? Also do you have any stories about attempted escapes?
In the case of your cellmate snitching on you to get years shaved off his sentence is he not at risk of sos or Kos then for doing that and how would you deal with the situation?
My question is what happens IF you get jumped and somehow come out the victor? If you find out they want to smash you is it just better to play defense and let it happen?
Hey Shaun and Wildman, thanks for this nice juicy video. I'm determined to get a question featured, so I'll just keep going with a few more random ones. 1. Have you got any chance of survival if you get a chomo jacket put on you? 2. Out of all the drugs you saw in prison, did you ever see any (of your own) Es? 3. If your cellmate snitches you out in the way you describe at the end of the video; will they immediately move him to another prison? And do the same 'snitches get stitches' rules apply to these guys? 4. Does anyone smuggle porn into prison, and is it the most valuable commodity? 5. What's the deal with conjugal rights, is that just certain prisons and/or certain states? 6. I love the video about Tony taking over your pod, so that made me wonder if there some prisons where the Ayrian Brotherhood don't run things? 7. Wildman; seeing as you were the head of the whites, could you have set rules down that said you didn't mind the races mixing, as long as the other heads agreed? 8. Because of segregation, are all/most of the beefs kept within races, or does everyone just beef with everyone? 9. OH, and I watched some thing about how a prisoner helped a female guard who was getting beat down. What's the score there, will he get smashed for breaking the prisoner/screw rules, or is there some rule about not attacking female guards? Phew! Any or all of those would be great :-)
Only if they are stealing from the gang or not following code, they are heads because of hierarchy.. If it was to happen, his own gang would jump him or kill him depending on what he did
@@efseassst7337 I don't need to listen to the videos bitch, I've been locked up plenty of times... And trust me that nobody gets to take out a head unless he did something very wrong... Just because it happenend once when he was in prison doesn't mean it's normal. Anything can happen in prison your never safe
I have a question Shaun and Wildman, what would happen to someone if they spontaneously decided to break up a prison fight that say erupted in the dining room? They separated two fighting inmates (because they were stupidly and naively trying to help like they would in the street).... what could be the potential outcome?
the videos are amazing as always shaun, but i think if you upped the production value you would be a lot more popular, little things like better lightning and better camera, think you would really see a change if you did! . but love the videos!!
From NYT: James (Whitey) Bulger had amassed enemy after enemy over a lifetime of murder, extortion, double-crossing and - in a breach of the cardinal rule of his ilk - snitching on rival mobsters. When Mr. Bulger was sent off to federal prison about five years ago after more than a decade on the run, his enemies remained, their memories of him long. That left some of those who followed his exploits back in South Boston unsurprised on Tuesday when Mr. Bulger, 89, turned up dead in his jail cell, apparently beaten by fellow inmates, according to four Federal Bureau of Prisons employees. “Anyone in criminal activity with him feels grossly betrayed that he was informing on them while he was supposedly their comrade and friend,” Michael Kendall, a former federal prosecutor from Boston who also once represented the family of one of Mr. Bulger’s murder victims, said of the trail of foes Mr. Bulger had left behind. “And anyone committed to law enforcement wouldn’t consider him a legitimate informant, because he just manipulated law enforcement to carry out criminal activity - including murders.” No official details were given on the circumstances of Mr. Bulger’s death. But some of the federal prison employees, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because the information was not yet public, said Mr. Bulger did not die of old age. Rather, they said, he was beaten to death by at least two fellow inmates at the West Virginia federal prison, where he had been transferred to the day before. Inside a maximum security cell at the U.S. Penitentiary, Hazelton in Bruceton Mills, W. Va., Mr. Bulger was likely attacked early in the morning - sometime between 6 a.m., when cell doors were unlocked so inmates could go to breakfast, and 8 a.m., when the staff made rounds, federal prison employees said. Mr. Bulger had not emerged from his cell for breakfast and when prison staff went to check on him, they found him wrapped in blankets and unresponsive, they said. When they tried to shake him, blood spattered the floor. He was dead. One of the federal prison workers said that the inmates involved in the killing were thought to be “affiliated with the mob.” Separately, a senior law enforcement official, who oversees organized crime cases but was not involved in the investigation into Mr. Bulger’s death, said he was told by a federal official that an organized crime figure was believed to be responsible. And a lawyer for Mr. Bulger, J.W. Carney Jr., made clear that he blamed the prison system for the death of his client, whom, he said, he was proud to have been appointed to represent. “He was sentenced to life in prison, but as a result of decisions by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, that sentence has been changed to the death penalty,” Mr. Carney said. Mr. Bulger is by no means the first organized crime figure to be killed once arrested, tried, convicted and sent off to serve his time. Editors’ Picks The Bright Future and Grim Death of a Privileged Hollywood Daughter A Tragedy in the Tattoo Parlor The Age That Women Have Babies: How a Gap Divides America Those who follow the rough ways of the mob remember 1962, and perhaps the most significant such murder to take place behind bars. It was the botched pre-emptory strike carried out in the yard of the federal penitentiary in Atlanta by Joseph Valachi, who wielded a length of three-quarter-inch galvanized iron pipe with a brass faucet attached. With repeated blows, Mr. Valachi crushed the skull of a man he mistook for another Mafia figure he believed had been ordered to kill him. The murder led Mr. Valachi to seek protection from the F.B.I., cooperate, and testify before Congress in 1963, becoming the first mob figure to admit publicly that the Mafia existed. Then came 1977, when Vincent C. Papa, a mob figure, was stabbed to death in the federal penitentiary in Atlanta. Mr. Papa was widely credited with masterminding the theft of nearly 400 pounds of heroin and 120 pounds of cocaine held as evidence in the offices of the New York Police Department’s property clerk. Mr. Bulger’s death will be remembered, too. A shortage of correctional officers has become chronic in the Trump administration, leaving some prison workers feeling ill-equipped and unsafe on the job, according to a recent New York Times investigation. Some prisons are so pressed for correctional officers that they regularly compel teachers, nurses, secretaries and other support staff to step in. The Hazelton prison in particular has been plagued by violence. The prison has regularly assigned support staff to guard duty since mid-2016, though it recently tried to curtail the practice. Last year, The Times found, the prison had 275 violent episodes, including fights among inmates and major assaults on staff, an almost 15 percent increase from 2016. Mr. Bulger appears to have been at least the third inmate to die as a result of violence at the Hazelton prison this year. In April, an inmate was killed in a fight; just last month, another inmate died in the same way, local news media reported. Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia had recently joined other officials in sending a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions voicing concerns over staffing levels at federal prisons, including Hazelton. Mr. Bulger got to know quite a few prisons over the years. He had been incarcerated in Arizona, Oklahoma and Florida, and prison workers suggested that he had been moved once again - to Hazelton - after he had threatened a staff member at the Coleman prison complex in Sumterville, Fla. In one case, he was moved for using his charm to obtain special privileges from a prison staff member, according to someone familiar with his situation behind bars who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the private nature of the information. Mr. Bulger had been held in solitary confinement at a federal prison in Florida since March, according to the person. Prison officials had cited behavioral problems on the part of Mr. Bulger as the reason for moving him to solitary confinement. For the most part, Mr. Bulger, who strenuously denied ever being a federal informant, was not threatened, harassed or attacked by other inmates in the various federal prisons, the person said. But there was one instance in which Mr. Bulger was stabbed by another inmate while he was being held at a federal prison in Arizona. According to the person, the reason for the stabbing was unclear, but it was believed the inmate may have carried out the attack to try to get a transfer to another prison. Mr. Bulger had suffered a series of heart attacks while in prison - more than half a dozen over the years - and was expecting to be moved to a medical facility run by the Bureau of Prisons. Instead, he was relocated to the West Virginia facility, where he was placed in the general prison population, according to some of the federal prison workers. After Mr. Bulger’s body was found, roadblocks were put in place outside the prison complex, and a lock down - meaning prisoners could not leave their cells - lasted into the evening.
I don’t think In America they would break down your door because of a weed smell they would never even be at your house just because they or someone smells weed
Q: What happens if you "Snitch" on someone that lied about something, to get you do his dirty work? Are you then considered a snitch although you re in the right? (sorry if this has been answered)
Andy P Yeah thats what i thought, but for instance the Scenario what Shaun said earlier A says to you B called you a punk ass, its clear its not true but you almost get in trouble. My thought would be to punish A by telling it to the Head above me Just wondering if that d be considered snitching
Im 27... I went to juvenile detention when I was 15 until I was 17... I went to church to try and talk to girls from across the cafeteria... But one day this pastor was there and he said. " Man was not meant to be in a cage " and I never forgot that. When I got out... I did stuff that could have got me locked up again. But God blessed me. At 21 I stopped doing all the dumb stuff I was doing... And went back to doing things I used to love doing before I threw myself into a life style that didn't make me happy. I'll always be afraid of losing my freedom and being back in a cage again. Being torn from family and women and friends. Jails and juvies are just for money... They hardly help anybody. Juvies... Maybe some. Prisons... Pretty much fuck no. The only good i got from juvie is God revealed himself to me in there. Besides that... Nothing. Kids I was locked up with... So many of them are dead now... They didnt even make it to 28... Suicides and overdoses....
Because.... i was always rebellious.. i always wanted to be my own leader and make my own rules... So for me to even have considered following God it had to be true.... Its just how everything happend... And then once I began reading the bible... With no judgment.. It just seemed so true... More and more happened where I figured God had to be real.. More and more science is pointing towards that we must have a creator..
Hey just wanted to tell you, I think what your channel is achieving is important. It's helping to create an interest in prison 'culture'. I think it's helping to normalize the idea that someone can serve a term then return to 'normal' life. More and more my friends are getting out and doing well. Several are very open about their past, and are still getting jobs that pay well. Maybe the stigma is finally lifting. Anyways, I think you're helping achieve that and I support that
Contradicted yourself in this one by saying "unless you have paper work OR A GUY SAYING HE SNITCHED ON ME" when a minute earlier you said people will lie and say that just to have someone handled. Moral of the story is MUST HAVE PAPERWORK 100% OF THE TIME UNLESS THERE ARE SOME REAL EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES ive seen it more then a few times.
Peter, what is it like to be the "head of the building"? Are you like a mediator between your people, does that give you some kind of an untouchable status? Or do you have to watch your back even more because you have to consider that he's in the AB and even though he's in the wrong, you don't want to make them mad at you? I don't know if you can freely talk about stuff that went down, but some insight would be very appreciated. Thanks
You have to earn the position, once you become a head yes you become distributor of everything through your gang, you're also in charge of keeping your people in check normally by beatings. Nobody touches the head, whenever you hear of prison riots that was planned by the heads. Riots are not random in prison everything is planned
Really fascinating listening to you guys, I would love to see you both do some sort of talk together in the future.I was wondering if Wildman had any fear when he first entered the American prison system ?
Shaun,how did you explain away your bail money to the AB,and why weren't you 'milked' in prison. Not trying to pick you mate,I love your stuff,just curious.
The irony is most crims are totally undisciplined from unstructured families but from what I am learning from you guys inside they almost become just the opposite.
Always remember guys, never turn down free candy! Also, why not show off your young physique? You're proud of it right, so why not find out if the other prisoners are? And Finally be careful not get your clothes wet in the shower. Well how might I do that you ask? Simple. When you go to the shower always go naked apart from your towl. Good luck guys!
Shaun question for you. I just subscribed and like your videos. You said you were jailed for Ecstasy. It must had been a large amount (?). I knew a guy years ago that sale weight in marijuana. He was stupid an left where If was found. He was Japanese. I visited him in jail a few times an asked how it going. Long story short he thought he was going to spend time in jail in Texas. I told him they wouldn’t waste time on him and export him back to Japan. This is what happened. For you to get six years it must have been large amount. What your story?
Shaun, Ive been watching your videos for a few days. Ive been locked up in Florence (minimum security though) and I notice you always mention the whites, the blacks, the mexicans, and the paisas. When I was locked up we also had the natives, they were the biggest after the whites on my pod. I heard that in Maricopa County the Mesaneros (mexicans from Mesa) have their own click; this might be a more recent thing tho with how fast Phoenix is growing right now. Who did these groups, in particular the natives, click up with when you were in?
Hi Shaun, iv recently read your 3 books in under a week, great stuff but I was a bit disappointed with the lack of wild man in the prison books. 1) would you consider writing wild mans autogiohraphy? I would definatly buy/read as I find him fascinating lol. 2) in your books you seemed to be able to mix with other races without too much bother, is this because u were English and doing you’re blog you got a pass? And is it only the white race that enforces this as the blacks and Mexicans you socialised with didn’t seem to face any consequences either. 3) finally how do the aryan brotherhood get messages and control people in the dorms and and street from solitary confinement? Do they send multiple kites a day and know all the ins and out or is it much more lossy controlled? Might they get a kite a month and a lot of the Decicions are delegated to the lower, more freely moving members?
Obviously I disagree with getting sent down for it but, I’d argue the weed point. If you’re over 25 and your brain has fully developed then it’s probably not gonna have any lasting effects. However, it can definitely have lasting negative effects on a teenage or early twenties brain, especially with the strains going round nowadays
Q: At what point does politeness/respect cross over into inadvertently looking like a punk? When do other inmates go from thinking you're a respectable guy to a potential bitch?
One of the best things about the Internet is that it affords guys like Shaun and Wildman the ability to basically have their own talk show and we get to see it without any executives deciding if it should be given a green light. Shaun, Wildman... thank you for making these!
Executives green lighting folks? Must be the Clintons..........
well said Thomas.
These vids with Shaun and wild man are actually class👍👌
Spoon feed me. NOW!
@Fusion72 What? You sound like a moron yourself to be quite honest.
I love them, not even close to being to prison, but I like to see how people that have done not the greatest things are actually good
100% agree they are by far my favorite Shaun & Wild man bring the best out of each other when reminiscing or kicking knowledge
Props to Wild Man for looking out for the youngsters
Wildman is so genuine and honest.
3.5 years for a roach is criminal
ben wrong I find that very hard to believe.
@@punchinon thats what they said, 2nd time
Any amount of time for any drug offense aside from a sale resulting in an overdose death is criminal. And even then 10-15 years should be the absolute maximum penalty
Justin Bobby in the UK it doesn’t matter how much roach you have, they just take it off you unless they have proof you were selling it
Driving then Blowing .o8 on a breathalyzer they'll take your keys for 24 hours! LOL
so, wildman literally reformed a kid more than the whole of the prison system in the US has in decades.
Q: What happens to police officers and prison guards who end up in prison?
In UK they are lower than nonces. Not good at all.
@@NapoleonGelignite no they're not
@@shaunattwoodOFFICIAL how's wildmans ass doing?
@@NapoleonGelignite nothing is lower than nonces
Do this q
drink every time he says "fookin"
Wild Man is one of those guys I would love to go for a drink with. Respect from Canada! 🇨🇦🇬🇧❤
Long video, thanks Shaun!
No problem, thank me instead, I told him to do it.
@@jamesrobertson2987 you're so humble
great video shaun and wildman
That Creepypasta Guy ahh! I used to love creepy pastas! Might give your channel a look!
Q: is your cell mate always the same race as you and if not, what happens?
I have this question too
Haha bro you have no choice who your cell mate is, I'm Mexican and my celly was a 19 year old white boy with aids.. needless to say we got into it verbally but the heads talked it over and we squashed it. There is a code with cell mates if you have a problem you talk to the heads, then they take care of it for you the problem with this kid was his hygine.. that's a big deal in there you can't just be a slob
Generally you just befriend them in the cell. But outside you cant really like hang out. Gotta find other ways. Like playing chess. Cards. Etc
In California, they will cell you up with the same race when possible because the administration doesn't want problems. If you're a regular white guy who isn't affiliated with anything, you can't allow yourself to share a cell with a black guy or a Norteno (Northern Mexican gang member).
@@gswdeclan why
Why am I watching these like I'm about to go to prison?
I could listen to Wild Man all day :)
Me too but besides "fuck1ng" he's fuck1ng hard to Unterstand (at least for a German)
it's easy to forget weed's illegal
Verquinn I’ve been smoking weed near everyday for the last 3 years and I never forget that’s it’s illegal 😂
Hey wild man and Shaun do you guys have any pictures of you two from prison? If so could you show us. Love the channel!
jt Ross12 if I’m not mistaken it’s called mugshots
jt Ross12 there’s a photo of wildmans mugshot it’s the best mugshot I’ve ever seen
Wild Man are you related to Count Von Count from Sesame Street? You look alot alike!
Shaun, and Pete. in a majorly bad place atm with my mental health, your books and these duo vids are keeping me sane and putting things into perspective. Bought hard time and can’t wait to be able to afford party time and prison time. Love you guys.
Thanks for these videos, both Shaun and Wildman. Thanks for sharing a unique perspective that I didn't know that I needed to hear. Keep up the great work, lads.
Love the content guys. One of my favourite youtube channels. Just a quick question for wildman; Are you in the process of writing a book or if not, have you considered starting one? Keep up the great stuff fellas, thanks.
Question: What happens to prisoners in case of war? ( According to OG Badger they get killed)
Can u 2 do a vid on gardening ?
What about juvenile detention in the uk any people that have been to juvenile tell me what its like please.
Love your uploads. Thank you for them.
Thanks for the videos and everfing Shaun. Thank you to you as well Wildman OG 5000
Let's hope no prison guards follow your channel. If any do, they now know about hiding drugs in toilet rolls.
they probably already know that trick, and they don't have to put gloves on for that one!
Prison guards often" look the other way" (how do you think shit gets in prisons); guards are paid off!!! They're corrupt fuckheads....as criminal as the criminals...
They already know about it, they also know we put drugs in plastic bags and shove it down the toilet hole....they just don't give enough of a fuck to actually stick their hand down your fucking toilet.
@@johnkarls160 theres a lot of ways inmates get things into jails and prisons the guards are just one way.
Question: Will grooming gangs get smashed in prison or not coz there’s so many of them that go in at once?
Paul Osc Slots Gambling Channel - Nah I’m from UK
All I will say is "Big brother is always watching".
Hahahaha as if, prison gang organisation in the UK is entirely Muslim.
Sussurus - That’s what I was thinking tbh😬
you really think they would house co defendants in the masses lol
How do you move up in the hierarchy to be head of the dorm? Is that an official position or just among the prisoners?
What happens if someone takes an instant dislike to you in your first week and you have to fight. Not gang related or charge related. Are you entitled to bite an ear off/gouge an eye out or would that be too much or seen as crossing the line and make you a target?
Wild Man is a dude, I'd love a beer with him, and sit and listen to his stories all day long
How long were you guys in the states before you got caught up
Thanks for the long vid Shaun :) I play these while I clean my kitchen lmao
Hi Shaun, I bought the book prison time and I’m halfway through it. Loving it by the way and my question is did you or wild man have any stories involving ex guards that got incarcerated? Also do you have any stories about attempted escapes?
@@shaunattwoodOFFICIAL Shaun how wide is wildmans ass
Epic heavy breathing by wild man
Kinky
"It only takes one shank in one's neck and that's it." Lol Wild Man is the man.
In the case of your cellmate snitching on you to get years shaved off his sentence is he not at risk of sos or Kos then for doing that and how would you deal with the situation?
My question is what happens IF you get jumped and somehow come out the victor? If you find out they want to smash you is it just better to play defense and let it happen?
Sean have you ever bin to a UK prison?
Bit late, but congrats on 100k
Thanks pal. I'll pass that on to shawn . Love Freya (shawn wife) x x
Hey Shaun and Wildman, thanks for this nice juicy video. I'm determined to get a question featured, so I'll just keep going with a few more random ones.
1. Have you got any chance of survival if you get a chomo jacket put on you?
2. Out of all the drugs you saw in prison, did you ever see any (of your own) Es?
3. If your cellmate snitches you out in the way you describe at the end of the video; will they immediately move him to another prison? And do the same 'snitches get stitches' rules apply to these guys?
4. Does anyone smuggle porn into prison, and is it the most valuable commodity?
5. What's the deal with conjugal rights, is that just certain prisons and/or certain states?
6. I love the video about Tony taking over your pod, so that made me wonder if there some prisons where the Ayrian Brotherhood don't run things?
7. Wildman; seeing as you were the head of the whites, could you have set rules down that said you didn't mind the races mixing, as long as the other heads agreed?
8. Because of segregation, are all/most of the beefs kept within races, or does everyone just beef with everyone?
9. OH, and I watched some thing about how a prisoner helped a female guard who was getting beat down. What's the score there, will he get smashed for breaking the prisoner/screw rules, or is there some rule about not attacking female guards?
Phew! Any or all of those would be great :-)
Shaun can gang leaders or heads of buildings be overthrown? How is it decided who replaces them?
Only if they are stealing from the gang or not following code, they are heads because of hierarchy.. If it was to happen, his own gang would jump him or kill him depending on what he did
Tony 2times yall even listen to this guys videos? he has spoken about it a few times. one guy got overthrown because someone saw fit to do so.
@@efseassst7337 I don't need to listen to the videos bitch, I've been locked up plenty of times... And trust me that nobody gets to take out a head unless he did something very wrong... Just because it happenend once when he was in prison doesn't mean it's normal. Anything can happen in prison your never safe
If they get beat up they may lose respect and be replaced.
Tony 2times Hahahaha your all shit mate bet you live with yo mama
would love to hear of all the best and most ingenious stash spots
Looking forward to meeting you in Bristol.
Do drug dealers force people into taking drugs to get them addicted and then use that as a way to control them? Whether that be money or favours.
Fuck no nothing is free in jail\prison plus everything is way more money 10 bucks of drugs is 200 bucks worth in there
In the US cops PC up right away. Accidents still do happen, though...
Is the paperwork just for what you're in for or is it all your previous too?
I have a question Shaun and Wildman, what would happen to someone if they spontaneously decided to break up a prison fight that say erupted in the dining room? They separated two fighting inmates (because they were stupidly and naively trying to help like they would in the street).... what could be the potential outcome?
the videos are amazing as always shaun, but i think if you upped the production value you would be a lot more popular, little things like better lightning and better camera, think you would really see a change if you did! . but love the videos!!
When are u two going back on true Geordie and btw love your vids.
Shaun Attwood will do, the way you’ve changed is so inspirational to me mate
What happens to police officers who wind up in prison?
Special protection wing
Q: James "Whitey" Bulger was "mysteriously murdered" in prison yesterday. How do you think he was murdered and by who, @Shaun
From NYT:
James (Whitey) Bulger had amassed enemy after enemy over a lifetime of murder, extortion, double-crossing and - in a breach of the cardinal rule of his ilk - snitching on rival mobsters.
When Mr. Bulger was sent off to federal prison about five years ago after more than a decade on the run, his enemies remained, their memories of him long.
That left some of those who followed his exploits back in South Boston unsurprised on Tuesday when Mr. Bulger, 89, turned up dead in his jail cell, apparently beaten by fellow inmates, according to four Federal Bureau of Prisons employees.
“Anyone in criminal activity with him feels grossly betrayed that he was informing on them while he was supposedly their comrade and friend,” Michael Kendall, a former federal prosecutor from Boston who also once represented the family of one of Mr. Bulger’s murder victims, said of the trail of foes Mr. Bulger had left behind. “And anyone committed to law enforcement wouldn’t consider him a legitimate informant, because he just manipulated law enforcement to carry out criminal activity - including murders.”
No official details were given on the circumstances of Mr. Bulger’s death. But some of the federal prison employees, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because the information was not yet public, said Mr. Bulger did not die of old age. Rather, they said, he was beaten to death by at least two fellow inmates at the West Virginia federal prison, where he had been transferred to the day before.
Inside a maximum security cell at the U.S. Penitentiary, Hazelton in Bruceton Mills, W. Va., Mr. Bulger was likely attacked early in the morning - sometime between 6 a.m., when cell doors were unlocked so inmates could go to breakfast, and 8 a.m., when the staff made rounds, federal prison employees said. Mr. Bulger had not emerged from his cell for breakfast and when prison staff went to check on him, they found him wrapped in blankets and unresponsive, they said.
When they tried to shake him, blood spattered the floor. He was dead.
One of the federal prison workers said that the inmates involved in the killing were thought to be “affiliated with the mob.” Separately, a senior law enforcement official, who oversees organized crime cases but was not involved in the investigation into Mr. Bulger’s death, said he was told by a federal official that an organized crime figure was believed to be responsible.
And a lawyer for Mr. Bulger, J.W. Carney Jr., made clear that he blamed the prison system for the death of his client, whom, he said, he was proud to have been appointed to represent. “He was sentenced to life in prison, but as a result of decisions by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, that sentence has been changed to the death penalty,” Mr. Carney said.
Mr. Bulger is by no means the first organized crime figure to be killed once arrested, tried, convicted and sent off to serve his time.
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Those who follow the rough ways of the mob remember 1962, and perhaps the most significant such murder to take place behind bars. It was the botched pre-emptory strike carried out in the yard of the federal penitentiary in Atlanta by Joseph Valachi, who wielded a length of three-quarter-inch galvanized iron pipe with a brass faucet attached.
With repeated blows, Mr. Valachi crushed the skull of a man he mistook for another Mafia figure he believed had been ordered to kill him. The murder led Mr. Valachi to seek protection from the F.B.I., cooperate, and testify before Congress in 1963, becoming the first mob figure to admit publicly that the Mafia existed.
Then came 1977, when Vincent C. Papa, a mob figure, was stabbed to death in the federal penitentiary in Atlanta. Mr. Papa was widely credited with masterminding the theft of nearly 400 pounds of heroin and 120 pounds of cocaine held as evidence in the offices of the New York Police Department’s property clerk.
Mr. Bulger’s death will be remembered, too.
A shortage of correctional officers has become chronic in the Trump administration, leaving some prison workers feeling ill-equipped and unsafe on the job, according to a recent New York Times investigation. Some prisons are so pressed for correctional officers that they regularly compel teachers, nurses, secretaries and other support staff to step in.
The Hazelton prison in particular has been plagued by violence. The prison has regularly assigned support staff to guard duty since mid-2016, though it recently tried to curtail the practice. Last year, The Times found, the prison had 275 violent episodes, including fights among inmates and major assaults on staff, an almost 15 percent increase from 2016.
Mr. Bulger appears to have been at least the third inmate to die as a result of violence at the Hazelton prison this year. In April, an inmate was killed in a fight; just last month, another inmate died in the same way, local news media reported.
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia had recently joined other officials in sending a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions voicing concerns over staffing levels at federal prisons, including Hazelton.
Mr. Bulger got to know quite a few prisons over the years.
He had been incarcerated in Arizona, Oklahoma and Florida, and prison workers suggested that he had been moved once again - to Hazelton - after he had threatened a staff member at the Coleman prison complex in Sumterville, Fla. In one case, he was moved for using his charm to obtain special privileges from a prison staff member, according to someone familiar with his situation behind bars who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the private nature of the information.
Mr. Bulger had been held in solitary confinement at a federal prison in Florida since March, according to the person. Prison officials had cited behavioral problems on the part of Mr. Bulger as the reason for moving him to solitary confinement.
For the most part, Mr. Bulger, who strenuously denied ever being a federal informant, was not threatened, harassed or attacked by other inmates in the various federal prisons, the person said.
But there was one instance in which Mr. Bulger was stabbed by another inmate while he was being held at a federal prison in Arizona. According to the person, the reason for the stabbing was unclear, but it was believed the inmate may have carried out the attack to try to get a transfer to another prison.
Mr. Bulger had suffered a series of heart attacks while in prison - more than half a dozen over the years - and was expecting to be moved to a medical facility run by the Bureau of Prisons. Instead, he was relocated to the West Virginia facility, where he was placed in the general prison population, according to some of the federal prison workers.
After Mr. Bulger’s body was found, roadblocks were put in place outside the prison complex, and a lock down - meaning prisoners could not leave their cells - lasted into the evening.
I don’t think In America they would break down your door because of a weed smell they would never even be at your house just because they or someone smells weed
Good Episode, video or part. Keep them coming
Q: What happens if you "Snitch" on someone that lied about something, to get you do his dirty work? Are you then considered a snitch although you re in the right?
(sorry if this has been answered)
Andulas is - never grass on anyone.
Andy P Yeah thats what i thought, but for instance the Scenario what Shaun said earlier
A says to you B called you a punk ass, its clear its not true but you almost get in trouble. My thought would be to punish A by telling it to the Head above me
Just wondering if that d be considered snitching
Imagine getting arrested and sentenced for having a piece of cardboard.. this world is so corrupt it’s insane
what does Wildman think about the legalization of weed?
Alius Karalius weed should be legalised not all drugs you dickhead
Alius Karalius calm down there tiger
you guys could be sooooo valuable to society... talking to kids new jail inmates etc. they will listen to you guys where they would ignore aurhority.
Take a shot every time Wildman says 'fuckin'
I live on the Isle of Man will you ever come over to give a talk there?
U mean it ‘was’ a good hiding place haha 😂
Im 27... I went to juvenile detention when I was 15 until I was 17... I went to church to try and talk to girls from across the cafeteria... But one day this pastor was there and he said. " Man was not meant to be in a cage " and I never forgot that. When I got out... I did stuff that could have got me locked up again. But God blessed me.
At 21 I stopped doing all the dumb stuff I was doing... And went back to doing things I used to love doing before I threw myself into a life style that didn't make me happy. I'll always be afraid of losing my freedom and being back in a cage again. Being torn from family and women and friends. Jails and juvies are just for money... They hardly help anybody. Juvies... Maybe some. Prisons... Pretty much fuck no. The only good i got from juvie is God revealed himself to me in there. Besides that... Nothing. Kids I was locked up with... So many of them are dead now... They didnt even make it to 28... Suicides and overdoses....
RIFF RANDELL god this god that wtf
@@marcosansa4155 yeah....
RIFF RANDELL how do u know god made u do all this. ‘Revealed himself to u’ yeah yeah yeah
Because.... i was always rebellious.. i always wanted to be my own leader and make my own rules... So for me to even have considered following God it had to be true.... Its just how everything happend... And then once I began reading the bible... With no judgment.. It just seemed so true... More and more happened where I figured God had to be real.. More and more science is pointing towards that we must have a creator..
Super Duper S.P fuck off
What happens if the leader of a gang gets released from prison
He runs to go find some pussy that's what happens
He wakes up from the dream.
Lol wild man breathing into the mic like a scary movie. Definitely Halloween :D
that was bloody brilliant i loved every minute :)
Absolutely amazing love these videos
Q: is there any consequences for snitching on a snitch? For example, you see someone tipping of a guard, do you tell anyone?
I really like these videos man.
Can you listen to music at all in prison
That toilet roll hiding place is balls up now if there is any screws watching.. ha
That's balls up anyway, only guards on the take will purposefully not search there..
Hey just wanted to tell you, I think what your channel is achieving is important. It's helping to create an interest in prison 'culture'. I think it's helping to normalize the idea that someone can serve a term then return to 'normal' life. More and more my friends are getting out and doing well. Several are very open about their past, and are still getting jobs that pay well. Maybe the stigma is finally lifting. Anyways, I think you're helping achieve that and I support that
Contradicted yourself in this one by saying "unless you have paper work OR A GUY SAYING HE SNITCHED ON ME" when a minute earlier you said people will lie and say that just to have someone handled. Moral of the story is MUST HAVE PAPERWORK 100% OF THE TIME UNLESS THERE ARE SOME REAL EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES ive seen it more then a few times.
Peter, what is it like to be the "head of the building"? Are you like a mediator between your people, does that give you some kind of an untouchable status? Or do you have to watch your back even more because you have to consider that he's in the AB and even though he's in the wrong, you don't want to make them mad at you? I don't know if you can freely talk about stuff that went down, but some insight would be very appreciated. Thanks
You have to earn the position, once you become a head yes you become distributor of everything through your gang, you're also in charge of keeping your people in check normally by beatings. Nobody touches the head, whenever you hear of prison riots that was planned by the heads. Riots are not random in prison everything is planned
Really fascinating listening to you guys, I would love to see you both do some sort of talk together in the future.I was wondering if Wildman had any fear when he first entered the American prison system ?
Shaun,how did you explain away your bail money to the AB,and why weren't you 'milked' in prison.
Not trying to pick you mate,I love your stuff,just curious.
It scares me to think because I like packing up the Cannabis Cigar and getting all schmoked up that I could end up in prison doing hard time.
You guys and this channel are brilliant. Counting the days until Wildmans podcast. How many people did you have to smash in jail overall Wildman?
The irony is most crims are totally undisciplined from unstructured families but from what I am learning from you guys inside they almost become just the opposite.
chris sheppard Trying to create Order out of Chaos
no offense, but sub-titles for the big man would help.
good info, thx
Always remember guys, never turn down free candy! Also, why not show off your young physique? You're proud of it right, so why not find out if the other prisoners are? And Finally be careful not get your clothes wet in the shower. Well how might I do that you ask? Simple. When you go to the shower always go naked apart from your towl. Good luck guys!
reading hard time and party time. wild man you legend. every time he's talked about makes me laugh.
I bet this video will actually help any young person who finds themselves going to prison
Q: how do I survive prison without joining a gang nor killing anyone
Q. How did wild man become head of the dorm?
what happens on valentines day in prison?
Everyone gets their cheeks busted.
Q: was there a big Native American presence in Arizona? If so where did they stand in the hierarchy of the prison? Thanks
With young people who do drugs, why does police care so much about a petty drug such as weed? The lad got 3 years for that it’s extremely harsh
I heard the word "fuck" being mentioned
Shaun question for you. I just subscribed and like your videos. You said you were jailed for Ecstasy. It must had been a large amount (?). I knew a guy years ago that sale weight in marijuana. He was stupid an left where If was found. He was Japanese. I visited him in jail a few times an asked how it going. Long story short he thought he was going to spend time in jail in Texas. I told him they wouldn’t waste time on him and export him back to Japan. This is what happened. For you to get six years it must have been large amount. What your story?
Thanks for the insight. Makes me want to be anywhere except prison.
Shaun,
Ive been watching your videos for a few days. Ive been locked up in Florence (minimum security though) and I notice you always mention the whites, the blacks, the mexicans, and the paisas. When I was locked up we also had the natives, they were the biggest after the whites on my pod. I heard that in Maricopa County the Mesaneros (mexicans from Mesa) have their own click; this might be a more recent thing tho with how fast Phoenix is growing right now. Who did these groups, in particular the natives, click up with when you were in?
Have you ever seen or heard of a prisoner having a firearm in prison ?
Hi Shaun, iv recently read your 3 books in under a week, great stuff but I was a bit disappointed with the lack of wild man in the prison books. 1) would you consider writing wild mans autogiohraphy? I would definatly buy/read as I find him fascinating lol. 2) in your books you seemed to be able to mix with other races without too much bother, is this because u were English and doing you’re blog you got a pass? And is it only the white race that enforces this as the blacks and Mexicans you socialised with didn’t seem to face any consequences either. 3) finally how do the aryan brotherhood get messages and control people in the dorms and and street from solitary confinement? Do they send multiple kites a day and know all the ins and out or is it much more lossy controlled? Might they get a kite a month and a lot of the Decicions are delegated to the lower, more freely moving members?
big up to you both love the podcast but can you tell wildman to stop breathing so close to the mic haha
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Obviously I disagree with getting sent down for it but, I’d argue the weed point. If you’re over 25 and your brain has fully developed then it’s probably not gonna have any lasting effects. However, it can definitely have lasting negative effects on a teenage or early twenties brain, especially with the strains going round nowadays
bang on men been there acab
from scotland
no doubt
Q: Do people get shanked for no reason?
This -is- used to be a good hiding place
What about people in for animal cruelty charges. Are they on the bottom of the pile with chomos/rats? Is it kos or just a pasting?
Q: At what point does politeness/respect cross over into inadvertently looking like a punk? When do other inmates go from thinking you're a respectable guy to a potential bitch?