I Saw This On Google Earth Then Hiked To It
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
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I'm a retired anthropologist way beyond my ability to trek around like you can. Thank you for showing us these unknown ruins. I simply do not understand why these areas you are finding have not been swarmed by archaeologists. The mystery for me is almost maddening... Who were these people, how did they live, how did they manipulate such massive stones, and anything else about them.
I agree. It would be so interesting to know more about these sites that are scattered all around in the southwestern U.S.
@ivorybow So, after all your years, do you still believe you're a glorified apeman accident?
My understanding is that many of these have been surveyed and recorded. The last I read there were over 100,000 known sites just on public land in the US southwest. Some of these may never be professionally analyzed.
Generally archialogists only work in sites that are planning to be developed to protect destruction of burials and such. That is how they make money.
I have searched all over for info and haven’t found anything. It doesn’t make much sense to me either.
Very cool find - thank you!
Looking at the start of the drone footage at 5:14, the site appears to be located defensively; it's backed against the cliffs with a good view of the approach from the front. The bright spot of green at the base of the cliff behind the site indicates water, if not year-round, then at least seasonal. Water would attract game. If it's a hunting blind, I would expect it to be looking over the source of water and the game trails leading up to it. Instead, the walls are built on the down-slope side of the boulder, not up towards the ridge behind it. It was difficult to see the site during the approach.
My guess is that both of these boulder sites were used as seasonal hunting shelters. It's really interesting that there are no pottery pieces, compared to the large "city" complex that was shown in a recent video. The large complex was so dense with pottery sherds that it was a challenge to move around without disturbing them. To me, the presence of pottery indicates the presence of women and a more permanent camp. The depressions on top of the flat-topped boulder are natural potholes, not created by grinding corn. I agree with other commenters that the black streaks on the boulder are soot stains from camp fires.
I agree with you. I think this one in this video was a hunting camp where the men could sleep and feel more protected from unfriendly animals and even other tribesmen who were also in search of game.
That was my initial reaction. But it looked easy to flank, and then the defenders would have attackers above them. The defenders would want easy access for retreat, and there didn't seem to be any easy retreats. So...IDK
I think seasonal hunting shelters is very likely! This one was kind of hidden behind a sand dune (I call it a knoll in the video), so it would make sense as a spot to ambush deer or big horn sheep passing through
@@TheTrekPlanner anthropologists tell us that it is human nature for us to decorate everything from our simple tools to our places of habitation from thousands of years ago to present culture. whether this location was used short term as a hunting blind or for longer stays by a nomadic family, there might be indications in the nearby area of petroglyphs or other ornamentation that would help to identify the period When this structure was in practical use.
Hahaha it's a hunting blind. Defense.from what?? Lol
I love how you scolded us and highly encouraged us to hike. 😅❤😊
Less than a thousand years ago, these places were inhabited by different types of game animals. Different horned animals and also bison. There were also rivers running through the land. These shelters were obviously too small to be inhabited by more than one or two people. Which tells you that they were temporary shelters, most likely used for hunting. If you follow the ancient riverbed you would probably find more downstream, and some overlooking the river. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if you find rock art depicting animals and squiggly lines (rivers) nearby.
I am hoping to go back in a bit to search for another one out there. I will check for rock art! Thanks for the suggestion!
That seems reasonable, like hunting blinds or temporary shelter.
@@TheTrekPlannerI would love to see close ups of the rock pictures to just study them a bit. Thanks for sharing these with us. I watch your videos at night, before I go to sleep & I fall asleep thinking of them & sometimes dream about them. 🙏🙏🙏
I had to look up "cryptobiotic soil". What an interesting topic. I love watching your videos. Thank you for exploring and posting them.
First things first, I love watching your videos. I’m way up in Canada but really enjoy hiking vicariously through you. Secondly, if you haven’t already thought of doing so, I’m sure there are many people watching who would like to physically join you on your hikes. Your enthusiasm is infectious and you would make an excellent guide. And finally, I have never heard of cryptobiotic soil before. After a quick Google search, I understand why you prefer to stick to the well worn trails. It just shows how thoughtful and contentious you are on these hikes. Keep up the awesome work!!!
Conscientious, not contentious. Contentious means argumentative, unlikely to be agreeable.
This is something I am planning on doing in the future! Would be so much fun to have a small group of us hiking to some of these places!
You'd need to be careful though. It's probably not a good idea to have groups of people for so many reasons. Once the word got out where some of your discovered places are, you open the floodgates to the possibility of them getting ruined (excuse the pun) and desecrated. I guess you could blindfold people though so they don't know where they are. A "mystery" tour 😅 @@TheTrekPlanner
I just discovered your channel, and I’m mesmerized! There’s so much history hidden in plain sight if you’re willing to make the effort to find it. Now I wonder how many piles of stones I’ve hiked past without realizing they were once structures. Some of the best features of your videos is their simplicity and your unassuming enthusiasm. And I’m not alone in loving this content: just since I started watching a couple of days ago, the subscriber count rolled over to 118K. You’re developing quite a following!
Thank you for taking me along ✌🏼💗
Thanks! Another great fun video. 😊
I’m so glad you enjoyed this video! Thank you for supporting me directly!
-Jeff
Thanks for taking us on a adventure. It’s pretty cool . I wouldn’t have seen this otherwise. Thanks again.😊
You had company too! 3:47-3:50 🦎
Love to explore the west through your camera lens. Have you ever talked to native americans about their ideas on some of these structures? Maybe an elder has heard some history .
They don't like us. And that's an understatement.
Who says that? I've met with many Elders and Tribes members to hear their oral history.@@Hankyjane
@@Hankyjane Maybe it's just you, lol!
I would love to have Native American interviews, stories, context, histories, and ideas in my videos. It's something I have been looking into!
@@Hankyjane Yeah,I think they were about as happy to see the white man move into their hood as my grandparents were to watch their neighborhood get dark after they spent forty years hard work paying off their house!
Another fantastic video! Super cool find, beautiful structure whatever its purpose. And the landscape there is stunning!
Your videos are so cool . I am surprised archaeologists aren’t using these. I used to spend a lot of time out in your area. But the drone photos add so much .
Looks fun either way. That area is so different from where I live its always enjoyable just seeing the landscape. The ruins are a bonus.
Great stuff Jeff.
Thank you! 🙂
Yes. Hunting blinds sounds like a very good possibility
Hey,... you rock!!! Dam good work and refreshingly humble. Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing. You realy do rock.
Thank you so much! :-)
Nice pun! I agree, he rocks!
I love watching these videos! So cool to see such old ruins! I like to try to imagine what life was like for the people that built them
agree! and his excitement is contagious
Probably not so bad until the white man came along.
@@MrSlikveeYou should ask for a refund from whatever university gave you your history degree. Life sucked for everyone, even the white man, until pretty recently in world history. Not saying white people did no wrong, but your comment shows a lot of ignorance. That or its just plain race baiting, which I guess wouldn't be too surprising. There's a lot of despicable people on the interwebs these days.
@@MrSlikveeyep just like life in the USA is now. Not so bad. In fact the greatest country to ever exist. In power and aid to the world.
I love hiking but that's a long walk from Middletown, CT! Sooo thank you for going for me! Very interesting finds👍🏼
*Incredible trip and I love the drone footage! It may be hard or impossible to view on site at ground level, but @**5:52** shows 4-6 oval depressions on the perimeter of the tall mushroom shaped rock that is the back wall to this shelter. While these collect rainwater and could be drank out of directly (kneel and scoop), they may also be grinding rocks where several people would communally grind grains, acorns, etc. I'm not sure what's local there. The rocks blocking any openings in the back wall may have been both security and ancient fire dampening technique... remove a block at a time until your fire has the right airflow.*
Yes. Would have been cool to get a closer look at those.
I think you're right about the top of the flat rock being used for grinding grain.
Regardless, I believe that First Americans were so protein deprived and the site was difficult to build & maintain. The structure was multi task. Wind brake, water collection, defensive position, shade, observation post, stone grinder & hunting blind. In survival situations, individuals, or as a group, everything you carry or do has multiple options.
@@loydevan1311 recent evidence suggests strongly that they were not protein deprived at all.
Back in 2018, they were looking at the diets of the ancestral Pueblo in the Four Corners region. Looking at paleofeces (really old poop), they found evidence of Ustilago maydis. A fungus that grows on corn which today is called "corn smut" by farmers ... but is a popular food called huitlacoche in Mexico.
This fungus alters the corn it grows on and can boost its protein levels from 3% to a massive 19% while also significantly boosting many other essential nutrients.
Of course, the feces they were looking at was from 400 BCE, but considering this is still a food staple in modern derivative/adjacent cultures, it's not a stretch to assume the medieval people's of the Americas were eating the same thing. Also, by this period (750 - 1350 AD), they'd added beans to their cultivation.
The drone footage is interesting in that it shows depressions on top of the rock that don't look natural. Makes me think of metates for food processing. But that could predate the walls (and be before pottery was used, if it was even older). I do wonder if some of these could have had at least partial roofs that were later pillaged for wood. Would make shelter from the sun.
Yes, I like to call these Rain Bowls 🥣 & they have many usages. Carved directly into the high point, of these Megaboulders, & most always on a flat surface. They are mankind's oldest tools. No pottery back in the Prehistoric days that these were created, means that they were never rebuilt upon by the Native's. Walls are always crumbled, & did not survive the Megadisaster.
Also, thank you for your sensitivity to the fragile environment. I was excited to see the water source and I'm wondering if it appeared after the site was abandoned.
I really, really enjoy your videos. I am from Michigan but adore the Southwest, so it is fun going on these adventures with you. However, every time, I am hoping you are wearing high boots, as I am so afraid for you accidentally stepping on a rattlesnake. Be careful ❤
If you’re ever in Tennessee you need to check out Dunbar national park. The caves have the oldest wall art in North America (6,000 yrs old).
These were clearly snowball forts for snowball fights. It's just a fact, anyone walking around with a snowball in their hand is fair game...
at a snowball fight…. is snow required or that’s optional?
@@Drinks-and-finger-food the climate was very different back then. ☺
We all know our ancestors were tougher than we are. Perhaps it was for rock fights instead of snowball fights
@@Drinks-and-finger-foodbeep beep. Hang on . I’m born and raised in lakeview Oregon. Lakeview is high desert. Our sage brush is taller though. And we’re more dirt than sand but have more sand than dirt in other areas. Take away these mountains and boulders, ok well take away everything taller than our 5ft high sagebrush lol, and it’s dang near matchey matchey. We have our mountains but not in the valley area. Black Cap is ours. Anyway, we get snow. And sometimes lots of it. Pyramid lake gets snow and that’s definitely more sand. I don’t know the elevation where this place is but lakeview is referred to as Mile High Desert. Had to picture snow right now because it’s so dang hot but it’sa comin lol. 😉
The forever kid in me can concur with you. But the imagination in me sliced with humor and sarcasm has a few other ideas!! Pygmy goat corrals. Toddler time out areas. Built in babysitters while working. Teens version of a treehouse. Diy Hide and seek spots. Member only hang out/hideout and probably with only one member.. because siblings are definitely excluded. There’s an image to uphold! 😂🤪. Ambush locations. Might be trying to ambush the lizards.. man/woman cave. .. ish. Cock fighting pit but for lizards?..? Outhouse maybe if Mullein is nearby..
I can go all day lol. But won’t unless ya want to get into a back and forth?? I’m game! I’ll build the rock corral we can meet up!! 😂😂🤣🤪🤪🤪
If I try to imagine what the purpose was, I think they could be used as a short duration hunting location. I imagine a few men/boys going out and getting a couple game animals which they would process at these sites, possibly using the large boulder(s) for laying out strips of meat to dry. They would need to be able to protect the meat from other animals for a few days. Then they could haul the dried meat back to where they actually live to feed others. I suspect that may be why there is no pottery or evidence of a woman's touch at the site. The bones may have been discarded apart from the site 100 yards or so away so as to bait scavengers away from this site. What do you think???
I was thinking if it was a hunting blind, then it likely would have been on top of the rock. But, a "processing" location for after the hunt would make a lot of sense. It's far enough away from the other structures but also close enough. I just don't know if they did that sort of thing, or if they just brought the kill home and dealt with it there.
I agree.
i fancy the rock with the structure on top would be a good vantage point for locating game, and a possible defensible position from hostiles.
@@mhicaoidh1 as they used almost every part of that which they 'harvested', the processing idea could work.
Is there a nearby university or college that has someone trained/schooled in archeology who might be able to tell you who built these structures, when they were built and why? I would be interested in what they may have to say.
Very Cool! Thank you, I enjoy your treks very much.
Was that a black eyed Susan in the creek bed?
It looks like it was something made for storage.
Thanks for bringing us along this was super cool to see.
Alien sunglasses...nice look!
As a climber, I've seen and made many of these in the mountains as a wind block when camping. In protected wildernesses it is customary to destroy them after use but you'll see dozens of them remaining on popular climbing routes in high up windswept landscapes. Who ever made it and when ever it was, I would guess it shared a similar purpose.
That would make sense! I didn’t make the connection to the ones that are on mountains , so thank you!
Come on . . . there's a few days worth of rock gathering, carrying, stacking, etc. All that just for a windbreak for a day or two's camping?
I don't have any better idea . . . but a windbreak doesn't seem logical.
I find your videos really fascinating. Do you have any contact with archaeologists who are able to investigate and record your finds? Are there existing archaeological records of any of these sites? If so it would be interesting to include the results in your videos.
He's mentioned in other videos that he has contact with some people at an area university, but while they are aware of a lot of the sites he visits, they've not been directly investigated. Thus the "some other sites have been attributed to the ancestral Pueblo peoples" remark he often makes.
Maybe used when following the herds when in season? All of those rock formations and shelters ARE very cool.
Dang, it's exactly half a mile from the first one you visited! There one more ruin exactly one mile WNW from the first one, again atop a boulder, but it looks like the walls have collapsed.
The world is filled with wonderful things... To me these are just as Wonderful as the ruins in the Middle East....
Love watching your vids! I am one of those who has mobility problems. I appreciate your curiosity and ability to go See these amazing structures. Also, your respect of these places too. ❤ ty for sharing!
It means a lot you stopped to make a comment! So happy you were able to join with me :-)
I ❤ your vids! Ty!
You say no artifacts but at 4:06 on the right of the frame, there’s a flat rock that looks as if fingers applied mud to this rock! Thanks for returning, I still get a sense there is much more to record there
Another ruin to imagine about. Personally, I think they were dwelling structures , as they display features of defense, built high up and in front of a rock for protection from enemies. Thanks for letting me trek along from my recliner in my airconditioned house. Watching out for the next one.
You said it. "Gosh golly". Thats where my thoughts went haywire too. Such a great find. Thx for sharing.
What was most interesting to me about this first site was the fact that there were two apparent structures right next to each other-one perfectly preserved (like the second round one on a boulder) and the other one having crumbled to the ground. I have little to no doubt that the two sites (the walls and the circle) were created by the same people, as their construction is identical. However, both are differently constructed from the ones at Hovenweep and Mesa Verde, although there is some similarity, if you look at the detail in the mortar between the stones. Nice find . . . again! You've graduated from "regular Jeff" to "brilliant Jeff" - claim it!
For the record there are modern people that live semi-feral in remote areas (part time and full time) and build travel shelters just like that. I found what I first thought was a ruin but turned out to be very recently built and had a cache of supplies hidden nearby under a rock. Just food for thought.
That's really quite brave, going off into nowhere like that, it could be dangerous!
Must be sandstone...I noticed ripple marks on one of the rocks in the video from when the area was a shallow inland sea.
Another great video! I think they are for people, shelter or a hide or ?, as the inside of the walls have the rocks lined up, even on the curved sections, not with the jagged edges sticking out as they do on the outside of the walls. As you asked, that's what I think! 😀
You should try metal detecting around these areas. Could be interesting to see what you might find :)
That would make an awesome Pueblo Batchelor pad!
Thanks for the adventure.
Awesome find.
Thanks!
Thank you for your support, Chris!!
-Jeff
Cool. One of the rocks had nice ripple marks.
It was a shelter. Too much effort put into it for a hunting blind. The depressions on top were interesting, I wonder if there was any evidence of grinding there. Surprised there were no potsherds.
Great productions❤
The more I watch your videos the more I can't help but think that these "shelters" are makeshift defenses. The low walls aren't high enough to contain any animal but they're perfect for ducking behind and shooting from if you're kneeling or on your belly.
I love your videos! Thanks
Great that you respect these sites and observe them by drone from a distance. Interesting!!
Many thanks! :-)
I think it is a hunting blind. On the top are 3 possible cooking holes. So interesting. Keep 'em coming,
Cool video.
your treks are such a welcome reprieve from all the BS going on. wish i could hike like you but cant anymore so I hope you keep making these and taking us along with you. Do be careful tho cuz the desert is a hard place. Peace
I really appreciate that. Thank you!
your'e so welcome! I really love going treking with you!
@@TheTrekPlanner
Great video.
The wall appears to be better finished on the inside. Lends itself to be for humans using.👍🏴
Hello love your videos and if you know the around about date of a structure/ruins...you can always look at what the area looked like back then....cuz it wasn't the same as now
I really love your show and appreciate that you choose to explore and explain with care and consideration. How about doing some lidar captures so we can get a 3d detailed render of the structure.. pretty please:-) iPhone, iPad..
lidar might be coming soon! ;-)
looks like a perfect spot for hunting. Hiding and spotting prey.
Looks like a herder's campsite.
Wow. That looks very old.
Given that they are out on flat ground, they may be hunting blinds. But they may also be shelters from the wind or cold. A fire built against the boulder would bounce heat back towards anyone in the enclosure. The desire to eliminate drafts would also explain why they sealed under the boulder, which wouldn't be necessary if it was a hunting blind.
Shelter made by soldiers on military training exercises. I used to make them in Colorado mountains during training exercises in the 80s, because you can't dig down to make a foxhole you make it on top of ground using what materials you have like rock.
Building "blinds or hides" has been a technique for hunting animals in cultures of North America for a very long time, They would build them near water sources, grazing areas, alongside animal trails etc., camp there overnight, and then wait until animals came within range of their weapons. To me some of these seem rather small for dwellings, so that is a likely use for them when the environment was more beneficial to animal and human life.
That is so interesting! TY
GPS positioning of stuff on google maps isn't always super accurate. Google collate masses of data from many sources in different formats and then integrate them into a single data set, so it's unavoidable really. However, they still do quite well as I don't see stuff being more than around 500 yards off generally, plus hyper accuracy isn't really needed to be useful anyway. Another great video BTW
That ground molded up could indicated a burial of some sort.
Cool! Curious about dark spots on top of rock. Wonder if worn down from someone sitting there.
They are filled with water from a recent rain. But, yes, would have been cool to get a closer look to see if they were from the stone being worked (grinding grain, sharpening tools, etc).
There are circular stone structures outside of Roswell NM. They were used on round-ups for branding or small cattle drives to corral cattle just overnight so they wouldn't wander away. That might be what this is, the large rocks would make it so they didn't have to build up as much.
Hunting blind? Great video.
I love these videos
What makes me think hunting blind is the corners are higher than the middle, meaning a shooter with a rifle over the top would be obscured from the sides a little more, where they pay less attention while looking down the rifle.
I think it is a defensive structure like a fort. I’ve seen similar walls in AZ
You didn't point out that the top was holding water. I imagine that was an important reason they built around it! Maybe, they helped dish it out deeper, to hold more?
Very cool.
THIS IS REALLY COOL! 😎🤩
Curious if your finds are previously known sites? Do you share the info with archeologists?
4:07 What made those ridges on the piece of rock/dried mud on the right? Long strokes, resembling fingers pulled across the surface? Is it natural, or man-made? 🤔 (Dude--you're already on the way to 200K! Keep going! This channel is GREAT! :D )
*Great catch at 3 o'clock position @**4:06** the parallel lines could be thousands of years of wind scouring the rock before natives moved it to that position or it may be some sort of tool like a miner's sluicebox.*
Great analysis! The 'pans' present-day gold-seekers use display those striations, as well. That may well date at least a portion of these ruins...👍@@1nvisible1
*A user named Reddy posted above "Must be sandstone...I noticed ripple marks on one of the rocks in the video from when the area was a shallow inland sea"*
This too, makes sense: thanks for the update! 🙌@@1nvisible1
🤔👍🙏>>>💚~~~ whatever---you do I truly enjoy your videos Thank You!
Thank you! :-)
Couldn't help but notice the cross carved in the stone on the top next to the entrance.
Maybe a hunting blind. I also think the wind out there was horrible.
3:45 That is one FAST little lizard! The strange thing about this one and others that are similar... all the work that went into making them, and where did they get the rocks in the first place?
You should check out the HoverX1 drone. Light weight, instant use with no set up. Fits in your pocket. What a game changer. Check it out. I saw another channel using it and bought one. Recommend buying additional batteries. We did.
Amazing.
Thanks for mentioning about cryptobiotic soil. It's a very delicate ecosytem, and we all have a duty to avoid disturbing it. It takes thousands of years for it to fully develop; one false step from us can ruin it.
It seems to big for a hunting blind Really cool how all of these places have lasted for so long 👍
They look like a hunting blind, little structures like this are really common.
Did anyone else see a smiley face on the large top rock?
Looks like a civil war, mexican, or indian war era defensive wall. Just my opinion. A lot of these you found actually look like makeshift defensive walls for artillery or riflemen.
Maybe it was looking over a creek or small lake or pond, and was used as a hunting blind, when the area had more water.
I think you completely missed the grain grinding pits on top of the flat rock...
I’ve seen hunting blinds in the foothills of the Serra Nevada mountains that this structure resembles but I can not see any game trails near by so that kind of eliminates hunting blinds. Anyway, thanks for the adventure.
3:47 lizard 😮
How about a hunting blind ? Maybe some of them ? Multi use facilities? Corral , shelter , hunting blind .
Defensive structure...a place to run if you and your sheep are caught out in the open.
Looking at the drone footage, I see places on top of the large stone that looks like grinding spots Could it be a grainery / food storage? However, the lack of sherds makes one wonder.
Sleeping on the large rock would keep you warm at night in the desert when it gets cold.