and i say top4,5 and he is a trendsetter also he broke the codes the rules of how the qb was suppose to play all these qbs today owe that to fran the man
I have spent about two years researching and creating a formula to evaluate a quarterbacks career. Also, my formula allows you to compare quarterbacks from different eras by first finding out how far above average they were when compared to the quarterbacks who played at the same time under the same rules and conditions. I am trying to get the book that I wrote on the subject into print but have not yet. My formula has 16 different categories and is without a doubt the most comprehensive study ever done. When applying this formula which includes categories like offensive team success and includes the playoff success of teams which boosts quarterbacks like Brady, Starr, Bradshaw, Montana and Aikman beyond what their personal play would suggest. So team success is taken into consideration but not to the extent that most people want it to when naming the GOAT most people just seem to want to take the team success and not take into consideration the quality of the team. I am still looking for a permanent name for my book but am currently refering to the study as the REAL GOAT scoring system. No stone is left unturned in the study. when using this method the top 10 quarterbacks of all time from 10 to 1 are as follows; 10 - Dan Fouts, 9 - Steve Young, 8- Aaron Rodgers, (His score is after 2020 and is definitely higher now, possibly high enough to be #5), 7 - Roger Staubach, 6 - Tom Brady, 5 - Y. A. Tittle, 4 - Johnny Unitas, 3 - Drew Brees, 2 - Peyton Manning and the greatest quarterback of all time when you take into consideration how far above average they were is Fran Tarkenton, The Real GOAT.
@@orderofrecluse Thank you, my goal is to change the way the media world thinks about the quarterback position. I have an uphill climb. Also I want to give football fans a way to measure the great quarterbacks of different eras and going forward.
Saw Fran a lot both before and after his stint with the Giants. Fran was unbelievable. And he called his own plays ! Watch his films today vs. the kids playing today. You can almost see his mind at work, and not listening to a headset in his helmet. The maturity and craftsmanship he displayed with the Vikes from 72 thru 78 was unbelievable.
I loved Fran. He was a great quarterback who made some poor teams average, some average teams good and some good teams great. He did all that with a below average arm. Watch all the times Jon Gilliam had to wait for the ball.
Fran got his passing yards long before QBs became a protected species. WRs could be hit down field and the league played 14 games per season. That ads up to a lot of games over his career.
In terms of arm strength, Tarkenton was average at best when compared to other NFL quarterbacks. But he more than made up for that in most other areas of quarterbacking. Had he played for Bill Walsh or Don Coryell, I doubt he would have had to run for his life as often as he did.
i agree with fran but dan had too many limitations one he couldnt run and 2 he ignored his running game because he wanted the highlights he thought u pass first which was dumb thats why he never ever went back to superbowl they had this man like pat mahomes he went to the bowl in his 2nd yr they had him going back 7 times with that arm and release dan let the whole universe down because he thought he could throw his way to a superbowl and u couldnt and he couldnt run thats another reason because he couldnt run it was easier to defend his pass now if he could run it would be hard because u would have to guess but since u didnt have to guess u could just lay back and defend him and that handicapped him and then he didnt like to stick with the gameplan run the ball 35 times and u throw 20 times dan would get to crying because he wanted to throw 45-50 times and run it 10-13 times a game
It's unfortunate Fran Tarkenton never won a Superbowl. Tarkenton along with Jim Kelly are the greatest quarterbacks that never won a Superbowl which is why I disagree with those who say Dan Marino is the greatest quarterback that never won a Superbowl.
If Fran Tarkenton played in the NFL today, he wouldn't be as successful as he was in 1960's & 1970's. Players today a WAY Bigger, Stronger, Faster, Quicker. Tarkenton could not scramble away from today's NFL players, Fran is only 6'0 and less than 190 lbs. He wouldn't last long in today's NFL, maybe Fran is jealous of Mahomes?
He was great. So great, in fact, that his records stood for decades. And he didn't get to play during the 80's, 90's, etc and those passing eras. He was still top ten in yardage and TDs until just a few years ago. And he didn't get the benefit of the "don't touch the QB" rules they get these days.
He had the most passing yards record for 15 or 16 years until Dan Marino broke it. He retired in 1978, I believe, so just think how far ahead of his time he was. Plus he played when there were only 12-14 games a season.
These are some great highlights you included here. Some I haven't seen in years. Well done. Fran is top 10 all time.
and i say top4,5 and he is a trendsetter also he broke the codes the rules of how the qb was suppose to play all these qbs today owe that to fran the man
Sir Francis, football royalty,best ever
I have spent about two years researching and creating a formula to evaluate a quarterbacks career. Also, my formula allows you to compare quarterbacks from different eras by first finding out how far above average they were when compared to the quarterbacks who played at the same time under the same rules and conditions. I am trying to get the book that I wrote on the subject into print but have not yet. My formula has 16 different categories and is without a doubt the most comprehensive study ever done. When applying this formula which includes categories like offensive team success and includes the playoff success of teams which boosts quarterbacks like Brady, Starr, Bradshaw, Montana and Aikman beyond what their personal play would suggest. So team success is taken into consideration but not to the extent that most people want it to when naming the GOAT most people just seem to want to take the team success and not take into consideration the quality of the team. I am still looking for a permanent name for my book but am currently refering to the study as the REAL GOAT scoring system. No stone is left unturned in the study. when using this method the top 10 quarterbacks of all time from 10 to 1 are as follows; 10 - Dan Fouts, 9 - Steve Young, 8- Aaron Rodgers, (His score is after 2020 and is definitely higher now, possibly high enough to be #5), 7 - Roger Staubach, 6 - Tom Brady, 5 - Y. A. Tittle, 4 - Johnny Unitas, 3 - Drew Brees, 2 - Peyton Manning and the greatest quarterback of all time when you take into consideration how far above average they were is Fran Tarkenton, The Real GOAT.
I love it man. Would love to see it published
Finally someone who has studied, mastered the analyzation & comparison of football greats. Thank you and I agree!
@@orderofrecluse Thank you, my goal is to change the way the media world thinks about the quarterback position. I have an uphill climb. Also I want to give football fans a way to measure the great quarterbacks of different eras and going forward.
Elway, Staubach, Brees, S. Young and tarkenton.
Great idea! I agree Fran Tarkenton is the REAL GOAT
Fran the Man changed everything
Yeah he did
Fran Tarkenton is one of the best quarterbacks to play the game. He was also a pioneer as a dual threat quarterback as well
He was and is my favorite Quarterback of all time. I patterned my street ball play after him. However I was switched to half back because of my speed.
Much respect for Sir Francis
So much fun to watch.
The man with the golden arm💪🏈🥳👆🇺🇲
Saw Fran a lot both before and after his stint with the Giants. Fran was unbelievable. And he called his own plays ! Watch his films today vs. the kids playing today. You can almost see his mind at work, and not listening to a headset in his helmet. The maturity and craftsmanship he displayed with the Vikes from 72 thru 78 was unbelievable.
The Scrambler. My all-time fave.
My favorite all time Giant quarterback.
He's actually not that tall
What about Phil Simms and Eli Manning? It's a tough choice to pick one.
caleb williams needs to look at this and listen to this he is a black fran tarkenton this should be his idol
I loved Fran. He was a great quarterback who made some poor teams average, some average teams good and some good teams great. He did all that with a below average arm. Watch all the times Jon Gilliam had to wait for the ball.
Fran got his passing yards long before QBs became a protected species. WRs could be hit down field and the league played 14 games per season. That ads up to a lot of games over his career.
Tarkington was the best. Sooooooo far ahead of his time
"No one ever caught me," says the guy who was sacked nearly 600 times.
In terms of arm strength, Tarkenton was average at best when compared to other NFL quarterbacks. But he more than made up for that in most other areas of quarterbacking. Had he played for Bill Walsh or Don Coryell, I doubt he would have had to run for his life as often as he did.
Fran Tarkenton and Dan Marino were the best qbs ever!
Agreed
i agree with fran but dan had too many limitations one he couldnt run and 2 he ignored his running game because he wanted the highlights he thought u pass first which was dumb thats why he never ever went back to superbowl they had this man like pat mahomes he went to the bowl in his 2nd yr they had him going back 7 times with that arm and release dan let the whole universe down because he thought he could throw his way to a superbowl and u couldnt and he couldnt run thats another reason because he couldnt run it was easier to defend his pass now if he could run it would be hard because u would have to guess but since u didnt have to guess u could just lay back and defend him and that handicapped him and then he didnt like to stick with the gameplan run the ball 35 times and u throw 20 times dan would get to crying because he wanted to throw 45-50 times and run it 10-13 times a game
It's unfortunate Fran Tarkenton never won a Superbowl. Tarkenton along with Jim Kelly are the greatest quarterbacks that never won a Superbowl which is why I disagree with those who say Dan Marino is the greatest quarterback that never won a Superbowl.
You’re right. Always great teams and came up short. Feel bad for Coach Grant. He was also one of the very best.
If Fran Tarkenton played in the NFL today, he wouldn't be as successful as he was in 1960's & 1970's. Players today a WAY Bigger, Stronger, Faster, Quicker. Tarkenton could not scramble away from today's NFL players, Fran is only 6'0 and less than 190 lbs. He wouldn't last long in today's NFL, maybe Fran is jealous of Mahomes?
He was great. So great, in fact, that his records stood for decades. And he didn't get to play during the 80's, 90's, etc and those passing eras. He was still top ten in yardage and TDs until just a few years ago. And he didn't get the benefit of the "don't touch the QB" rules they get these days.
He had the most passing yards record for 15 or 16 years until Dan Marino broke it. He retired in 1978, I believe, so just think how far ahead of his time he was. Plus he played when there were only 12-14 games a season.
Fran tarkenton ,Brett farve ,Aaron rodgers and Patrick mahomes maybe Tony romo same style but tarkenton is the father to it
Music doesn't fit at all. It sucks
124 victories
342 passing touchdowns
47,003 passing yards
246 games played
755 rushes
3298 rushing yards
23 rushing touchdowns
His playing style and what's a pocket? WAS WAY AHEAD OF IT'S TIME. and on era without all those BABY PROTECTION QB they have right now.
Fran is the Michael Jordan of this QB shit hands down‼️ Pour Pigs Piss on anyone who says otherwise ‼️😤🔥‼️💪🏾❤️🔥