Also, my Neutron had a super soft detent (could shake it loose very easily). I contacted TRM on Instagram and sent it in for them to take a look at. It arrived there today and they have already re-built the knife and have thrown in some micarta scales (I've been asking about them). I don't know if they are free (I am going to ask and offer to pay for them). Even when I was buying the knife I missed the boat by a couple of hours and sent them an email and congratulated them on a successful launch, then they set one aside for me and sent me a PayPal invoice. VERY impressed with the support I've been receiving from this company, A+ in my book.
Just for kicks I put my G10 scale on the non-pocket side of my Neutron today and kept the slick carbon fiber on the side that has the pocket clip, worked pretty well today. Looks, interesting, and has a great balance of grippy and slick for the pocket action.
Bought the sage 5 about a year ago. Then it sat in the case until about amonth ago pulled it apart played with it now i have to say how smooth the action on it is turned in to one of my edc rotaion knives.I guess because of pm2 open and close and truly how smooth the actoin is i can't leave it alone. Didn't feel that way in beganing changed the lube and the red lock tight for blue and it is amazing. Also it's a slicing machine comes razor sharp.
That was very interesting indeed . A lot of ties which I didn't expect .I bet Zelric has a blast cabinet and could take care of that blue hardware on the rectifier for you .
You REALLY picked 3 knives that were perfect to compare. I only own one of them and it won! :-) I pained between a WE Practic and a Rectifier and decided on the Practic , which also could have fit into this "Battle to the Death" perhaps, too. They are ALL great knives! Nice job, Bryan!
Nice battle brian, lots of good info here. Interesting to see the three way battle. Looking forward to more. Comes down to funtion, and with smaller hands I enjoy a thinner profile.
These battles are great. Always really well done. In this particular case, you've swayed me from the Rectifier and now I think I might need a Neutron. Something about being able to change the scales out appeals to me, but also, look at that blade shape!
Very nice review Brian!! Interesting choice of knives! Just thinking out loud, how about another category of warranty & support? I don't know if if it's all that important for everyone but definitely good to know.
Impossible to score. I'd have to send each back for some reason to see. I try to factor it in a bit in the Value category for ones that I know for sure are great.
Thanks Bryan. You know I love these *Battles to the Death!* This was a long one, and well done. But finally, I get to disagree! 😀 From my point of view, I gotta score this one differently. This WE knife, with it's flipper tab, ugly (as compared to the other two) blade grind, shape, and hole. Ugly pivot collar, poor pocket-clip, big old knobby lanyard hole, on the end of a 3" knife. Who does that? Not to mention, that lanyard hole placement. Doing everything it can, to keep this knife from even being close to deep-carry. I've got to put it, easily in last place. Easily. I've got the Sage 3, with the bolt action. Man, is that thing smooth. Seems to be a rare bird too. I don't see very many of them around. It works as well as an Axis-Lock, and Ball-Lock. I wonder why Spyderco didn't use it more often. Probably committed to the ball lock.
RE the Rectifier - Dat blade tho... Enough to put it ahead of the Sage 5. Even thought I LOVE the Sage 5. I just bought one after having this loaner. None of these are bad choices and seem to be the size I carry the most often.
Went back to watch this video because I have been considering all three. Very helpful. For me, very difficult choice between the WE and the TRW. Very nice job on this video
Now that was a great comparison. I truly love the shape of the Neutron, but I don't know if I can get over two things. Bushings instead of bearings, and the handle thinness. I don't really understand why a knife at this price point wouldn't have bearings. And I like handles that are a bit more substantial. I haven't bought a Benchmade Osborne because that handle feels like it would roll in my hand during use. And while I have just never found Spydercos to be that attractive, that Sage is looking better all the time. That leaf shape instead of the bird head is not actually that bad looking. And a lot of my knife choices just seem to come down to looks.
Great review. Owning the Sage 5 and the Neutron, I agree with a lot of what you said. The Neutron’s blade is perfect, although I love the Sage’s as well, with mine at 0.017 inches behind the edge. The Neutron’s handle is too thin to be really comfortable when gripping hard, unlike the Sage’s outstanding ergonomics. But, man, does the Neutron thin handle disappear in the pocket compared to the Sage. I do like the Sage’s peel-ply CF over G-10 better for the combination of grip and looks compared to the Neutron’s CF. G-10 is nice and grippy on the Neutron but has a pedestrian look. I might have to check out their micarta scales. It is great to have options there. Love the Sage for the ergos, slicy blade, great clip, perfect grip, and that addicting compression lock. I just can’t seem to put it in my pocket now with the Neutron fitting there so well.
The only problem is the china made are usually made better and are cheaper with better materials. WE and Kizer have been better than the spyderco and benchmade knives or even more expensive knives
@@sunnyrachelsson3169 if you are happy to give money to the Chinese communist party who have a laundry list of human rights violations and have sold lead painted toys for children then enjoy your knives. I'll keep buying USA made, I like sleeping at night. Have a wonderful day and stay safe 🐱
@@sunnyrachelsson3169 I'm a American that believes that you spend your money where you want. Hope you don't have to move somewhere else just to keep working like I had to. It's sucks leaving the place you grew up and all your friends and family because greedy rich want to make more money and send jobs where they can pay people way less then they deserve, I'm retired so won't be getting laid off and have to come back for less than before like what has happened to some people in recent years. I enjoy all my crappy USA made knives and hope you enjoy yours. Have a wonderful day and I hope they don't sell your or your love ones jobs away. Stay safe 🐱
Hah! Well I have no restrictions in my life around locking mechanisms so there's just no way I'd carry the Viator if I had a Neutron. But I'm glad that you have room in your life for both ;)
That's good to know. If I could move along my Viator I would certainly pick up a Neutron. Unfortunately I'm not really plugged in to the whole knife selling/trading world.
Nah. Three Rivers website is not easy to navigate. Whats the price? Did you say? And they don't either. Out of stock there and BHQ. Availability, ease to purchase, should be a category. Slicier? Did you sharpen either? 20CV wins, agreed, depending. But, what up with that edge grind? Could be camera angle, but. Whats hand ground? Looks like stonewashed and belt final edge. Looks - purely subjective. Form follows function. I'd take the WE or Spydie any day. Agree completely on action and ergos. But these things should be weighted. Actions pretty objective thing. Looks not very. Liner locks are dead last, distant dead last. Uglier, weaker, least friendly to play with. WE blows the other 2 out of the water for value. If Spyderco ever allows the Sage to be made in a different steel, things would change. Why the P3?
Price is listed right on the site. Didn't seem too hard for me to find. And as I said in the video... $160 and available again in September. I did misspeak. I meant to say SHARPENED by RJ Martin, not ground. But I own all three so I don't have a dog in this fight and I still stand by what I said.
Ah yes, I listened again and see you did state the price, up front. And my mistake, indeed 3 Rivers does have the price on its website. I listen to your evaluations and like a lot of folks, (I suspect), have my own opinions about each category. By the time you get to the value vote, I'm thinking about a bunch of things and curious whether we will agree on the final. But might I make a suggestion? When you get to the value vote, could you restate the price, as that's the element that makes category 7, along with the summary discussion of the other 6? I'm not sure what owning all 3 has to do with a dog in the fight?
Tom R Every one of these videos are just my opinion. I don’t require everyone to agree with me. I mentioned owning all three because it says that they’re all good choices or I wouldn’t own them.
Also, my Neutron had a super soft detent (could shake it loose very easily). I contacted TRM on Instagram and sent it in for them to take a look at. It arrived there today and they have already re-built the knife and have thrown in some micarta scales (I've been asking about them). I don't know if they are free (I am going to ask and offer to pay for them). Even when I was buying the knife I missed the boat by a couple of hours and sent them an email and congratulated them on a successful launch, then they set one aside for me and sent me a PayPal invoice. VERY impressed with the support I've been receiving from this company, A+ in my book.
Just for kicks I put my G10 scale on the non-pocket side of my Neutron today and kept the slick carbon fiber on the side that has the pocket clip, worked pretty well today. Looks, interesting, and has a great balance of grippy and slick for the pocket action.
Nice options! Good information. I don't know how I missed this one.
Bought the sage 5 about a year ago. Then it sat in the case until about amonth ago pulled it apart played with it now i have to say how smooth the action on it is turned in to one of my edc rotaion knives.I guess because of pm2 open and close and truly how smooth the actoin is i can't leave it alone. Didn't feel that way in beganing changed the lube and the red lock tight for blue and it is amazing. Also it's a slicing machine comes razor sharp.
That was very interesting indeed . A lot of ties which I didn't expect .I bet Zelric has a blast cabinet and could take care of that blue hardware on the rectifier for you .
Great battle.... nice review.. thanks for sharing
Thanks Bryan! I have the Viator and really like how good it feels and cuts. It is handsome too, a perfect smaller knife in my opinion.
You REALLY picked 3 knives that were perfect to compare. I only own one of them and it won! :-)
I pained between a WE Practic and a Rectifier and decided on the Practic , which also could have fit into this "Battle to the Death" perhaps, too. They are ALL great knives! Nice job, Bryan!
I think the slender profile and steel put the Practic ahead personally, really is a great knife.
Nice battle brian, lots of good info here. Interesting to see the three way battle. Looking forward to more. Comes down to funtion, and with smaller hands I enjoy a thinner profile.
*function ? 😂 Sorry mate, couldn’t resist.
@@tonycanniffe2360 ......god dammit. I literally asked for this. 😒
I take it back.
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These battles are great. Always really well done. In this particular case, you've swayed me from the Rectifier and now I think I might need a Neutron. Something about being able to change the scales out appeals to me, but also, look at that blade shape!
You really can't go wrong with any of the three.
Great choices for the battle to the death!
Nice Battle! I like them all but the Rectifier is my favorite of the three and is on my list.
Can't go wrong with any of them.
Very nice review Brian!! Interesting choice of knives! Just thinking out loud, how about another category of warranty & support? I don't know if if it's all that important for everyone but definitely good to know.
Impossible to score. I'd have to send each back for some reason to see. I try to factor it in a bit in the Value category for ones that I know for sure are great.
You’re right but I didn’t mean experiences with each piece. Perhaps known support from each company... But I also totally get your point
The new scales feature is really creative. There are a lot of knives that have alternate scales but the scales are really expensive.
Where can I get the TRN. When I go to their site it says it's available at blade HQ but I'm not seeing it there.
My sage 5 had a really really weak detent and didn't drop shut at all :(
Sliceman- Great comparison video. I knew you'd pick the Neutron. Blade steel was the decider in my book.
Fantastic blade off.
My thee priorities are
(A) Slicing - TRM (B) Aethestics - WE (C) Ergonomics -Spyderco
This review “is tearing me apart”
I own the sage 5 and I guarantee you can't be deceive I was not a fan of spyderco before this knife
2yrs later still waiting for my turn to own a Neutron.
So no matter how good it is; If I cannot buy it...……...
Awesome
Thanks Bryan.
You know I love these *Battles to the Death!*
This was a long one, and well done. But finally, I get to disagree!
😀
From my point of view, I gotta score this one differently.
This WE knife, with it's flipper tab, ugly (as compared to the other two) blade grind, shape, and hole. Ugly pivot collar, poor pocket-clip, big old knobby lanyard hole, on the end of a 3" knife. Who does that? Not to mention, that lanyard hole placement. Doing everything it can, to keep this knife from even being close to deep-carry. I've got to put it, easily in last place. Easily.
I've got the Sage 3, with the bolt action. Man, is that thing smooth. Seems to be a rare bird too. I don't see very many of them around. It works as well as an Axis-Lock, and Ball-Lock. I wonder why Spyderco didn't use it more often. Probably committed to the ball lock.
RE the Rectifier - Dat blade tho... Enough to put it ahead of the Sage 5. Even thought I LOVE the Sage 5. I just bought one after having this loaner. None of these are bad choices and seem to be the size I carry the most often.
3 Rivers is on my list :-)
Went back to watch this video because I have been considering all three. Very helpful. For me, very difficult choice between the WE and the TRW. Very nice job on this video
Now that was a great comparison. I truly love the shape of the Neutron, but I don't know if I can get over two things. Bushings instead of bearings, and the handle thinness. I don't really understand why a knife at this price point wouldn't have bearings. And I like handles that are a bit more substantial. I haven't bought a Benchmade Osborne because that handle feels like it would roll in my hand during use. And while I have just never found Spydercos to be that attractive, that Sage is looking better all the time. That leaf shape instead of the bird head is not actually that bad looking. And a lot of my knife choices just seem to come down to looks.
You can't go wrong with a Sage or any of the knives in this comparison. All three are pretty great.
Great review. Owning the Sage 5 and the Neutron, I agree with a lot of what you said. The Neutron’s blade is perfect, although I love the Sage’s as well, with mine at 0.017 inches behind the edge. The Neutron’s handle is too thin to be really comfortable when gripping hard, unlike the Sage’s outstanding ergonomics. But, man, does the Neutron thin handle disappear in the pocket compared to the Sage.
I do like the Sage’s peel-ply CF over G-10 better for the combination of grip and looks compared to the Neutron’s CF. G-10 is nice and grippy on the Neutron but has a pedestrian look. I might have to check out their micarta scales. It is great to have options there.
Love the Sage for the ergos, slicy blade, great clip, perfect grip, and that addicting compression lock. I just can’t seem to put it in my pocket now with the Neutron fitting there so well.
Sage 5 vs native that would be a good battle to the death
I only have a LW Native. If I get my hands on a regular Native, I will.
I only buy USA made so the neutron is only one for me. Thanks for sharing
The only problem is the china made are usually made better and are cheaper with better materials. WE and Kizer have been better than the spyderco and benchmade knives or even more expensive knives
@@sunnyrachelsson3169 if you are happy to give money to the Chinese communist party who have a laundry list of human rights violations and have sold lead painted toys for children then enjoy your knives. I'll keep buying USA made, I like sleeping at night. Have a wonderful day and stay safe 🐱
@@menacewithaknife4045 you do realize the United States isn't much better it's one of the most corrupt countries
@@sunnyrachelsson3169 I'm a American that believes that you spend your money where you want. Hope you don't have to move somewhere else just to keep working like I had to. It's sucks leaving the place you grew up and all your friends and family because greedy rich want to make more money and send jobs where they can pay people way less then they deserve, I'm retired so won't be getting laid off and have to come back for less than before like what has happened to some people in recent years. I enjoy all my crappy USA made knives and hope you enjoy yours. Have a wonderful day and I hope they don't sell your or your love ones jobs away. Stay safe 🐱
This is missing the WE 809 Practic, probably the best at this price range and a practically perfect EDC.
More than three inches. That's why it wasn't in there. Not all about the price.
Oookay, makes sense. I'm lucky in that sense, never had to worry about length. Missed that part in the intro.
Id like to see Neutron vs. Hogue mini RSK
Man I just ordered the sage 5 did I go wrong?
No. It's still great.
Sage 5 is the only Sage with a lanyard hole, why did they wait til the 5?
Lanyard holes are stupid that's why
Brian, why did you even bother to put the Sage in the comparison..you made it the whipping boy.
Would you say these are the 3 sliciest knives that you own?
Neutron/Viator (tie), WE Rectifier, Cold Steel American Lawman/Civivi Baklash. Not sure which of the last two.
Who has the Neutron in stock?
Nobody. Like I said... Next run is next month.
I have a Viator and love it but now I just want a Neutron instead!
There's room in your life for both!
Hah! Well I have no restrictions in my life around locking mechanisms so there's just no way I'd carry the Viator if I had a Neutron. But I'm glad that you have room in your life for both ;)
Resale on a Viator is probably pretty good right now. No new ones until late September.
That's good to know. If I could move along my Viator I would certainly pick up a Neutron. Unfortunately I'm not really plugged in to the whole knife selling/trading world.
Hard to beat a Neutron.
Nah. Three Rivers website is not easy to navigate. Whats the price? Did you say? And they don't either. Out of stock there and BHQ. Availability, ease to purchase, should be a category. Slicier? Did you sharpen either? 20CV wins, agreed, depending. But, what up with that edge grind? Could be camera angle, but. Whats hand ground? Looks like stonewashed and belt final edge. Looks - purely subjective. Form follows function. I'd take the WE or Spydie any day. Agree completely on action and ergos. But these things should be weighted. Actions pretty objective thing. Looks not very. Liner locks are dead last, distant dead last. Uglier, weaker, least friendly to play with. WE blows the other 2 out of the water for value. If Spyderco ever allows the Sage to be made in a different steel, things would change. Why the P3?
Price is listed right on the site. Didn't seem too hard for me to find. And as I said in the video... $160 and available again in September. I did misspeak. I meant to say SHARPENED by RJ Martin, not ground. But I own all three so I don't have a dog in this fight and I still stand by what I said.
Ah yes, I listened again and see you did state the price, up front. And my mistake, indeed 3 Rivers does have the price on its website. I listen to your evaluations and like a lot of folks, (I suspect), have my own opinions about each category. By the time you get to the value vote, I'm thinking about a bunch of things and curious whether we will agree on the final. But might I make a suggestion? When you get to the value vote, could you restate the price, as that's the element that makes category 7, along with the summary discussion of the other 6?
I'm not sure what owning all 3 has to do with a dog in the fight?
Tom R Every one of these videos are just my opinion. I don’t require everyone to agree with me. I mentioned owning all three because it says that they’re all good choices or I wouldn’t own them.