Psychiatric Interviews for Teaching: Self-Harm

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  • @maria-luciaraffinatore
    @maria-luciaraffinatore 8 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Ok, I can give more insight in this case(the psychiatrist). I work in the medical field. She is not actually a psychiatrist that has regular patients, she is a liaison psychiatrist. What she does is to talk to the patients admitted in a psych ward or hospital, to pinpoint the best approach or treatment for the patient. Once this has been established, then the patient will be directed to the psychiatrist (internal or external)that can best help the patient in questions. For example, some doctors might have more insight in manic depressive patients, versus one that might have more experience with patients affected from schizoaffective disorders. Hope I helped:).

  • @whilberwhateley1209
    @whilberwhateley1209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The Actor playing patient here is doing a great job. It’s different for us all but the weariness comes through. I was helped but broken open and left to survive by one experience. Pillar to post. The next steps were not there.These connections are important and it’s so exhausting to re live it so many times.

  • @MegaSmallbear
    @MegaSmallbear 8 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    right...right.....right......

  • @Vuadanee
    @Vuadanee 10 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    i'm on a spree of watching these vids lol

  • @daviddouglasstanley
    @daviddouglasstanley 10 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    The fact that this patient made a connection with the clinician only to be told that she will have to be passed on to another clinician is just reinforcing the issues of abandonment and trauma history I feel is an issue for her. I don't think the intake process in this case is helpful because it reinforces a schema around abandonment.

    • @sarocturtlegaming7306
      @sarocturtlegaming7306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      thankfully in this case it's an actress but I 100000000000% agree with ya

  • @LifeLoveDreamMusic
    @LifeLoveDreamMusic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    It seems to me very cruel to not continue seeing her, even just for checking how it is going with the "proper" service. Just look at her face the moment she's told she's going to be sent to someone else. Right after having said that she never really felt listened to. Her face is just scrumbling and she starts closing up and that's a shame because she just started to have hope again...

    • @fishandwhiskers
      @fishandwhiskers 9 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Don't worry, just an actress :)

    • @MrRizon83
      @MrRizon83 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Michi Tedford But this being taught as procedure so it's going on somewhere in real life.

    • @mudfan1010
      @mudfan1010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You should look up what the liaison service usually does!

    • @annehoffman5995
      @annehoffman5995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      It's consistent with her diagnosis - Borderline Personality Disorder. In this hypothetical meeting, the psychiatrist is modeling a healthy boundary that actually supports Jane's treatment. Allowing her to come back and break the typical norm that this psychiatrist uses with all other patients would go against her treatment and enable behaviors that are making her unwell. People with this diagnosis often feel abandoned in situations that are fairly routine for people without the diagnosis.

    • @emmafrost13333
      @emmafrost13333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@annehoffman5995 I understand from the perspective of the doctor why they do this. But it's not really what the patient needs in this case.
      I think it's quite bad in this case in particular to do so. She clearly needs at least one person in her life so she can feel stable. They should give her a one weekly visit for long-term, maybe a few years, who will first give her the assurance that there is one person once per week who will always be there to listen to her, and after a few months they should start help her create new real relationships and maintain them.
      But I've noticed in the UK the system doesn't provide this service and it actually may be more damaging to the patient.

  • @Habs_08
    @Habs_08 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The difference between a Psychiatrist and a friend, it really matters. But I guess they can use other words than "right" but they're not here to agree or disagree with their feelings they're here to give some insights. You don't say stuff like "you're gonna be alright" or "don't give up". It's not a motivational seminar.

  • @noradosmith
    @noradosmith 11 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    A perfect enactment of a borderline personality

    • @carolinefrost1103
      @carolinefrost1103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have bpd and can really relate

    • @AcidOnTheStreet
      @AcidOnTheStreet 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carolinefrost1103 Same truly BPD this

  • @laurabattle638
    @laurabattle638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can relate to her when she says she's always being past from pillow to post and that nobody listens to her

  • @xxxxxNeMxxxxx
    @xxxxxNeMxxxxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    i don't know how much more of these video will come, but damn i'm gonna watch all of them

  • @Ashrubel
    @Ashrubel 10 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    The therapist is not "abandoning" her...
    Jane is too rapidly forming attachments, and then internalizing the detachment upon being pushed away.
    The therapist here has a specific job. Nobody can do everything...

    • @jojoUK120
      @jojoUK120 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Shane Lopez It could be a rapid attachment, or it could be that she's asking for continuity of care. After all, she's already told her story to several in A+E, now this Psych, and is now being expected to go through it all with at least one other. Each re-telling causes harm. So far there has been no benefit. Also it is likely given the service user's age that she's had lots of experience of assessments, and if this psych has been unusually professional and thorough in her questioning it would be logical that she wants to stick with the best.

    • @Ashrubel
      @Ashrubel 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She says at about 10:11, that this is the only person who has actually sat and listened...
      Listen to her telling of her story about her relationship... it is only a few weeks into the relationship, and she has quite an attachment with the fellow. I do not know many people who can even KNOW somebody well enough in just a few weeks... And she is asking him to move in... that likely pushed him away quite a bit.
      This is a classic performance of one of many disorders that include rapid attachment... The one that sticks out for me is Borderline Personality Disorder.
      She hits all the markers...

    • @jojoUK120
      @jojoUK120 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Shane Lopez I think you're right that the brief sexual relationship shows signs of rapid attachment, but I think you're also right to say that this can be a symptom of several disorders, not just the one flagged in the blurb. I'm not saying it's the wrong diagnosis, just that a diagnosis of any specific disorder is premature at this stage. Eg. I remember gales of laughter when one particularly famous bipolar sufferer, admitted for manic psychosis, was diagnosed by duty as schizophrenic.
      For what it's worth i agree that it's right of the psychiatrist to stick to the rules and not see her again, but because of the nature of the post rather than any assumption about whether or not it's a rational request.
      ps: it's good to have the discussion!

    • @SassyMa_
      @SassyMa_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, and well said!

    • @SassyMa_
      @SassyMa_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jojoUK120 Your wrong talking therapy is the best medicine...

  • @susantompkins4254
    @susantompkins4254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love watching these videos, they are a good help to me. Thank you

  • @cesarsalinas4092
    @cesarsalinas4092 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To be honest I struggle opening up to my counselor. Because of a school. Mentor and it has given me trust problems

  • @pigthecat2752
    @pigthecat2752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so sad it looks like she wasn’t ready to talk about this

  • @DC-dy4ji
    @DC-dy4ji 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    realistic scenario and well handled thanks

  • @curtisfranks2451
    @curtisfranks2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As someone who has done these very things as showcased by the actor patient and can say I no longer do nobody and I mean nobody or nothing is worth self harming yourself . It's a realization I came to slowly. I was holding back my thoughts and feelings over certain things because I thought they would not be valued. Now I can say for certain I will express my openly and anyway needed to so that I will be heard. I dont hold back my thoughts. You have to come point where you simply could care less what people think or say about you. You have to get to a place where self care is top priority. Not to be self centered or selfish. When one takes care of themselves on all levels of their being most all else comes in place. People simply aren't worth hurting yourself over and I learned the hard way. Be you and live your life.

    • @eileendoherty2836
      @eileendoherty2836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curtis Franks so true thank you 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Kim-md8bg
    @Kim-md8bg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    she seems more focused on her cutting then the reason behind it

  • @misspinkpunkykat
    @misspinkpunkykat 11 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    My brother had a girlfriend who would threaten to OD everytime he tried to end the relationship and she actually would. My parents were always having to drive her to the ER.

  • @ChrisSmith-pe8rm
    @ChrisSmith-pe8rm 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is very accurate, exactly what they do; it's never consistent, it is just passing you from person to person who doesn't really show any care whatsoever. And they all have this weird thing with hand gestures, they gesture too much, and ask the same questions over and over. This sort of thing could be sorted at the GP, most of the assessment appointments appear useless.

    • @UNAI.EMERY.
      @UNAI.EMERY. หลายเดือนก่อน

      10 years later it's the exact same

  • @zeecaptain42
    @zeecaptain42 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    OFC it´s acting - But It´s some really amazing acting! Fantastic!

  • @bjb29407
    @bjb29407 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i can't believe how much the dr talks. she shold start with an open ended question.

  • @nancywharton9359
    @nancywharton9359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so so sorry

  • @Elbereth141
    @Elbereth141 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They're both wearing microphones. I think you can be happy that this was acted (and very well acted too).

  • @christyfortune9112
    @christyfortune9112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It also makes me sad that she won't continue to see her considering she has felt like no one else has listened, which I believe is a legit concern and I have seen in the field myself- pts have told me that. But then I read that it was the psychiatry ED- meant for crisis management. While I feel her pain, it's understandable that her job role- possibly full time- doesn't allow time or in the job description to take on regular patients.
    I am more curious about the case study though- I'm thinking hx of PTSD & codependent personality disorder. I was also considering BPD or possibly malingering/or factitious d/o. The acting was excellent, I wish they made this specific duo into a case study series for practicing psych evals.

  • @maliafunaki8600
    @maliafunaki8600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, does anyone know what Jane thought of process is like in this video?

  • @nancywharton9359
    @nancywharton9359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I get so tired of going from therapy to therapy.

  • @andywood375
    @andywood375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If mental health treatment is a maze, then treating BPD is like the great labyrinth of the minotaur.

    • @BlastinRope
      @BlastinRope 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BPD is the labrynth, narcissistic personality disorder is the minotaur

  • @sueydasueyda6970
    @sueydasueyda6970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it ok many times underlined cuting her wrists?

  • @wackywhitty
    @wackywhitty 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is so true with how cold and uncaring the mental health care system is

  • @isuripalagasinghe3904
    @isuripalagasinghe3904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Our teacher just showed this video and asked us to write our diagnosis .we said it's BPD she just laughed at us and said completely wrong.we felt like total idiots

    • @jordanmetzler3436
      @jordanmetzler3436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What was the diagnosis?

    • @skyegraham6953
      @skyegraham6953 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going with CPTSD

    • @alexscott3273
      @alexscott3273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's EUPD or borderline PD. Says in the description.

  • @shantilane5873
    @shantilane5873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is brilliant and reward blessing to me as been an RN completing my COVID_19 refresher course funded by federal government through Australian collage of nursing.

    • @BlastinRope
      @BlastinRope 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Collage

    • @JuditaHoffman.
      @JuditaHoffman. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlastinRope
      Such an obvious typo, doesn't need to be addressed.

  • @radhikapatel8065
    @radhikapatel8065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mental health conditions is a serious mental illness it can make them self harm which is due to abuse , different types of bullying if a bully who don’t belong into a neirboughood.

  • @MsShellynj
    @MsShellynj 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I scratch myself these other days

  • @manjularohanthi2442
    @manjularohanthi2442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what about using confidentiality statement before starting?

  • @susantompkins4254
    @susantompkins4254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they should keep seeing them until the clients are able to cope better with there life?s ...I would...

  • @bjb29407
    @bjb29407 11 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    she says "right" too often

  • @forgetfulstranger
    @forgetfulstranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    suicidal ideation doesn't equal suicidal. You have to do a risk assessment on the patient and decide what to do from there on.

  • @hollylarison1893
    @hollylarison1893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She looks completely drained

  • @MsHburnett
    @MsHburnett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope the patient is an actor

  • @anon6056
    @anon6056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She needs helppppp. I'mma say she has childhood trauma and needs support to overcome the failure her parents were. It can get better even if you were set up for disaster

  • @faithoffaith
    @faithoffaith 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why are they interviewing her for a Personality Disorder? The questions seem to be directing to that but why? She could be presenting with Depression, just because you come in with a main issue of Self-harming behaviour, voices, break up of a relationship doesn't mean it is a PD. There are people who a depressed and self-harm, equally you could be SH without having Mental Health problem. I think the title is really misleading as well it's like saying Self-Harm = BPD If it is what they're interviewing her about than why not title it 'Psychiatric Interviews for Teaching: Borderline Personality Disorder'

    • @xiaoluxu8680
      @xiaoluxu8680 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      because she started cutting herself since teenage

    • @JBnx94
      @JBnx94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are treating her for self harm because that is why she was in hospital for. The borderline personality disorder is a comorbidity. The self harm means that her condition is worsening and requires a change in her treatment or the start of treatment if she wasn’t receiving any before. You are right in saying that not all people with BPD self harm but that is what she is currently presenting with.

  • @logerbad19
    @logerbad19 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With someone who has ideation like that, he needs to have intensive services not just being passed around

    • @JBnx94
      @JBnx94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      logerbad19 suicidal ideation does not mean that they are currently suicidal

  • @umwha
    @umwha 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does the psychiatrist pass her on? They shoudo stay together.

  • @MsBee73
    @MsBee73 10 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Boderline personality

    • @morp8047
      @morp8047 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MsBee73 and possibly dependent personality disorder.

    • @neilmcguire5153
      @neilmcguire5153 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MsBee73 I was also thinking a Comorbidity of Borderline Personality Disorder and Dependent Personality Disorder, the self harm more falls in line with the borderline diagnosis.

    • @ilil835
      @ilil835 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Morp , why dependent p.d.? because of the ending?

    • @PlanbSk8terX14
      @PlanbSk8terX14 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      bpd

    • @roseault6335
      @roseault6335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely NOT borderline personality disorder !

  • @SuperWarking
    @SuperWarking 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um, so this is done post intial eval right? If not thats a pandoras box waiting to blow up in someones face...

  • @neilmcguire5153
    @neilmcguire5153 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm going into psych and pre med to become a psychiatrist and I'll tell you in my practice all you'll hear is straight talk and straightforward explanations and answers. I don't regurgitate everything I say like this psychiatrist does. Its about the patient, sometimes following protocol doesn't always work.

    • @2009hdj
      @2009hdj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's very noble, but sadly very difficult to implement in practice. There's a reason why us health care professionals have to use limiting and impartial answers; it's because you encounter a wide variety of very troubled people, many who need boundaries and a professional psychiatric relationship in order to get better. Some will not be able to hear "straight talk". As a psychiatrist, you will encounter people who are extremely unwell, and really, the vast majority of illnesses are neurological, not psychological, requiring pharmacological, interventional and holistic care. If you're looking for a career that will allow you to be more motivational and no-nonsense, psychology or counselling might be a better choice, as you will be dealing with clients with more "straight-forward" personal and psychological issues (stress, relationship problems, etc). Good luck for your future though, I can tell no matter what path you choose, you will be a caring health professional :).

  • @darlyne3564
    @darlyne3564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the distinction to be understood by hearing the voices inside or outside?

    • @leahsadler1637
      @leahsadler1637 ปีที่แล้ว

      to ascertain auditory hallucinations or not. When someone can hear something that isn't there from the outside, it's an indicator of auditory hallucinations. When someone hears something from the inside, it may be more of an indicator of derogatory thinking. Both have different styles of treatment and different diagnosis pathways.
      The actor states these voices are people she knows inside her head, she knows they're not there (has insight) and they make negative comments towards her. Hearing voices inside the head can be common for people with BPD, and her other signs and symptom profile does not necessarily match a psychotic disorder.
      Hope that helps!

  • @RainRemnant
    @RainRemnant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do love that clinical question list when someone's emotions are running high, have talked to so many therapists and psychiatrists and that part is so offputting.

    • @trapezeoidthreelobed7683
      @trapezeoidthreelobed7683 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have a list, and they are definitely going through it

  • @kimroy6640
    @kimroy6640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It may be the way the provider does things but this should have been explained to the patient before she poured her heart out. To lead someone into a trap like that and then smash their hopes and esteem to pieces is very cruel.

  • @emmab8318
    @emmab8318 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have this.. They think they help.. It NEVER helps...

    • @jannewillockx1063
      @jannewillockx1063 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Emma Brock (DarkNemesis) what would help?

    • @aizenosaimafidon1119
      @aizenosaimafidon1119 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Emma Brock (MysticalPotato) I agree what can help? They can't exactly enter your mind to find out, help them out, what calms you down after an episode. How do you stop yourself from an episode short-term? Following unto this how could you turn this into something that could help you long term? You don't actually have to answer. Thy're quite personal questions, you could speak to someone you trust about it. Maybe that would help. Sorry if this is annoying just delete it lol. I'm a budding psychiatrist and don't believe in just prescribing medicine. In fact I don't believe in prescribing medicine at all. Just talking to the patient, getting to know them and stuff.

    • @fullmetalsnowflake2508
      @fullmetalsnowflake2508 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Mystical Potato Queen be careful with self-fulfilling prophecies :) but it's true that they can only help you help yourself with this kind of stuff. Have you tried cold-showering? The shock can help get the noise down, I don't feel like it puts things behind me quite as well but it's brought my bio-oil expenditure down significantly

  • @kianayu7676
    @kianayu7676 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Check out my video on bullying and self-harm!

  • @FreeThePorgs
    @FreeThePorgs 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How "real" is this?........

  • @G_anon
    @G_anon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    The actress-psychiatrist/therapist/counsellor needs to learn some empathic listening skills. Hearing "right" every second is irritating.

    • @rhi1989
      @rhi1989 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +George Saadé Very patronising.

    • @thosewhoplayforghosts6371
      @thosewhoplayforghosts6371 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know and these people are supposed to be confidential. This shouldn't have been posted to TH-cam where it will irritate us all

    • @rhi1989
      @rhi1989 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Siren Queen
      ...this isnt a real appointment, its for teaching purposes

    • @charliebaker966
      @charliebaker966 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George Saadé and hearing okay all the time this isn't what they do at hospital

    • @jackiedevlin6623
      @jackiedevlin6623 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      George Saadé ,

  • @williamfoley5687
    @williamfoley5687 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to like peanut butter and jelly

  • @mamamiabenjamia
    @mamamiabenjamia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    these don't seem real to me. the patients are either actors, putting on a show or very uncomfortable with all of this.

  • @zillzone
    @zillzone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok so she said voices which indicate a type of schizophrenia - so why isn't that mentioned here? loL

  • @melissais
    @melissais 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is this stuff real?? :o

    • @melissais
      @melissais 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment. I found it it was actors after I read some comments that day I watched this. Best of ;luck with your condition!! Take care! :)

    • @rugby543211
      @rugby543211 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Karis Braithwaite How do you know they are actors?

    • @rugby543211
      @rugby543211 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Karis Braithwaite I don't know, it definitely would be unethical to film them and use the video with out permission, but perhaps when the patients became sane they gave their consent.
      It could be a more accurate representation for students if they were watching this than actors. However i suppose it is quite likely they used actors.

  • @ArionaMew
    @ArionaMew 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope this is staged. I don't think it's legal to record real appointments

    • @pearl8661
      @pearl8661 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ArionaMew This is an educational video with actors.

  • @jojoUK120
    @jojoUK120 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The blurb is Way too quick to diagnose!!!! One 12min assessment is not enough to rule out other diagnoses (eg Bipolar, other types of personality disorder etc.), nor to rule out other reasons for wanting to stick with the same Psychiatrist (eg, they're better than the last 20 I've seen, or not wanting to see yet another white upper class man.)

    • @JBnx94
      @JBnx94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      little jo this is a preliminary mental state exam. It’s not meant to diagnose. It’s meant to determine what her current state of mind is, which doctor she should see and whether or not she should be admitted to hospital or treated as an outpatient. Diagnosis comes later. It takes more than one session to diagnose. It could take weeks before she gets a diagnosis. But even still any mental health professional can give a preliminary diagnosis just from this 12 minutes. The questions she’s asking fall into a preset template that the doctor is mentally filling out and each question she is asking is ruling things out. Have a look at the MSE template and you will realise why the doctor is doing and saying what she is saying

  • @vanillah8890
    @vanillah8890 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    fake

  • @cindywilcox4853
    @cindywilcox4853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Borderline Personality Disorder.

    • @JuditaHoffman.
      @JuditaHoffman. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Based on 12 minutes of talking with liaison psychiatrist?!

  • @ChrisSmith-pe8rm
    @ChrisSmith-pe8rm 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very accurate, exactly what they do; it's never consistent, it is just passing you from person to person who doesn't really show any care whatsoever. And they all have this weird thing with hand gestures, they gesture too much, and ask the same questions over and over. This sort of thing could be sorted at the GP, most of the assessment appointments appear useless.

    • @ggockma20
      @ggockma20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In general I think it’s to get information and quickly screen for suicide plans/ hx of mania/ trauma/ major depression. The major treatment would be supplying pt resources, therapy , and if warranted medication. Some individuals specialize in psych whereas the gp may have just a couple months worth of education. It would be a tragedy for someone with little experience take on a person on the verge of suicide/ mania and not respond properly... that’s why they are often passed along.. not because the gp does not care.