Noticed that Ash, whilst proving dead, applied probe first to the line terminal, (5.46), leaving the other probe waving around. If the circuit were not dead, there would then be a voltage present on the unattached probe, so wouldn't it be wiser to place first probe onto earth and the second to each of the lives in turn?
this kid has been sticking his nose into too many books. Don't worry, you'll gain some confidence after your first few years, and you'll learn not to wave around your tools in the pannel. I mean, what if a screw falls down between 2 phases? I got a pannel at work with the plastic cover missing, exposed 3 phase terminals at foot level, no warning label, nobody knows but me. I'm waiting for an accident to happen. Let me teach you what is far more important than this white english crap of "put muh lead on muh earth first bla bla", you need to first test the terminals WHEN THEY'RE LIVE, which these monkeys didn't. See if you got a neutral/earth fault, see if you placed the lead correctly... many times the lead will show 0 just because the screw on the breaker has some special coating on it. If you put the lead on top of the screw, on the side, it will show 0, you need to place it inside the screw and twist the lead around, not just lightly touch it. But hey, theory and practice are 2 different things.
Would it be a dangerous current tough? Probably there is a very high impedance in the tester itself (if it's the same of a multimeter, like 10Mohm), not enough to give you any shock. Anyway better to be on the safe side.
I feel it’s the best way to learn, I have been doing this long enough to be able to fix anything he could possibly mess up. Thanks for the positive comment
Nice little vid. Made me chuckle though as you criticised the DB you took out as being an unknown brand then replaced it with a DB from Live Electrical. The original DB was a Lewden branded Controlgear Direct.
So originally we were fitting a fusebox but this is on back order from them for 8 weeks, but we were able to provide SPD and a decent link out atleast lol
Was gonna say not helped it with that board lol. Could use nice Hager. Also fitting TP+N board was a bit of a waste wasnt it. Supply cable 2 core only? Could have just put on Single phase board.... What size was the supply cable? Unless it was 25mm armoured i fail to see the point of 25mm tails extending it into the board...
25mm SWA Customer wanted it to be a like for like size etc, we did what was asked, All well and good fitting Hagar but not when it was priced in fusebox/equivalent
@peterigrenyi9176 trust me they are tight 😂 I don’t like Hagar anyway, they make fake AFDD’s and have always been stupid money for no reason until smaller brands started to wash them out check out Dave saverys Chanel about the AFDD issue
Not only that but those towels go through two different holes! No I'm sure the Eddy currents are low but yeah whoever did that did a nice job < sarcasm.
When drilling a box you should de-burr the hole before fitting the gland. Makes sure you can get the gland fully screwed tight to flat metal and not stopped by burrs and less likely to cause minor injury to fingers etc if work is altered later.
I finished my apprenticeship in 1979. I'm retired now. Things have changed a lot since I was installing boards. My only pet hate is when electricians use impact drivers to tighten/loosen terminal screws. That is not the proper tool for that job. it is too powerful and the terminal screws are usually made of a soft material. It really riles me to see it. All the best for that young lad going on with his apprenticeship. Well done.
I think if you know the feel of your driver you can quite easily use it to just run the terminal screws up, saves some time in the long run but yes I do agree with over tightening using them,
@@brightsparkmid Each to their own. I just prefer not to use it. I've seen an RCBO destroyed because ot was over-tightened using one of those things. But enough of that. I loved the video otherwise. Reminded me so much of my younger days "on the tools".
Basic 1st step of drilling a hole even with a speed bit like Ashley used, is to DEBURE THE HOLE !! I NOTICED that it WASNT DONE. AS HIS IMMEDIATE BOSS , AND FILMING IT ASWEL, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED UP STRAIGHT AWAY , BUT I WAS WRONG AND DISAPPOINTED AND SAD TO SEE !! Ashley 1 word of advice from someone that has been an ELECTRICAL ENGINEER FOR 40 years, BUY YOURSELF A DE-BURRING TOOL. THEY ARE NOT EXPENSIVE, BUT GIVE YOU THE SATISFACTION OF A CLEAN HOLE FOR APPLYING A STUFFING GLAND !!
Found that the fine tooth of the armeg bits require virtually no deburing when complete, they are a great tool I agree but only really use them when the big set of hole cutters come out, But I take it on board and hold my hands up, yes I should probably be less complacent and ensure all holes are de buried, Thanks for your feedback
I've not use those particular spice connectors but most of those push in connectors have some sort of release procedure if you need to. Think I would've put the tails in trunking but then again they're high up out of the way they so should be OK.
always enjoy watching these kind of videos, im trying to find someone to take me on for last year as an apprentice but because im an adult learner i dont think anyones interested!
@@brightsparkmid Im in Leeds, im currently working in maintainance and doing weekends here and there with a friend for a wider range of experience but ideally an apprenticeship would be best!
When drilling be aware no metal shards drop into any breakers or anything it can cause issues or potentially be dangerous if possible use the hoover to prevent it or turn it on the side and drill n clean out. Pal
but but but but what if you had a major fault and you had single phase in short circuit with neutral and earth huuuuuuuuuuh? your proving unit wouldn't do anything. My magic pen would. Or what if you had backfeed from a nearby building that only goes on at certain intervals?
Noticed that Ash, whilst proving dead, applied probe first to the line terminal, (5.46), leaving the other probe waving around. If the circuit were not dead, there would then be a voltage present on the unattached probe, so wouldn't it be wiser to place first probe onto earth and the second to each of the lives in turn?
Very good observation, you are correct, it is much better to go onto the cpc first,
this kid has been sticking his nose into too many books. Don't worry, you'll gain some confidence after your first few years, and you'll learn not to wave around your tools in the pannel. I mean, what if a screw falls down between 2 phases? I got a pannel at work with the plastic cover missing, exposed 3 phase terminals at foot level, no warning label, nobody knows but me. I'm waiting for an accident to happen.
Let me teach you what is far more important than this white english crap of "put muh lead on muh earth first bla bla", you need to first test the terminals WHEN THEY'RE LIVE, which these monkeys didn't. See if you got a neutral/earth fault, see if you placed the lead correctly... many times the lead will show 0 just because the screw on the breaker has some special coating on it. If you put the lead on top of the screw, on the side, it will show 0, you need to place it inside the screw and twist the lead around, not just lightly touch it.
But hey, theory and practice are 2 different things.
Would it be a dangerous current tough? Probably there is a very high impedance in the tester itself (if it's the same of a multimeter, like 10Mohm), not enough to give you any shock. Anyway better to be on the safe side.
It's great to see you letting your apprentice have a go and teaching him along the way. Keep up the good work mate 👍
I feel it’s the best way to learn, I have been doing this long enough to be able to fix anything he could possibly mess up. Thanks for the positive comment
Nice little vid. Made me chuckle though as you criticised the DB you took out as being an unknown brand then replaced it with a DB from Live Electrical. The original DB was a Lewden branded Controlgear Direct.
So originally we were fitting a fusebox but this is on back order from them for 8 weeks, but we were able to provide SPD and a decent link out atleast lol
Was gonna say not helped it with that board lol. Could use nice Hager.
Also fitting TP+N board was a bit of a waste wasnt it. Supply cable 2 core only?
Could have just put on Single phase board....
What size was the supply cable? Unless it was 25mm armoured i fail to see the point of 25mm tails extending it into the board...
25mm SWA
Customer wanted it to be a like for like size etc, we did what was asked,
All well and good fitting Hagar but not when it was priced in fusebox/equivalent
Fair dos if it was 25mm SWA. Looked smaller in the vid.
As for board, just price Hager to start with😊
Switch room upgrade will be nice job.
@peterigrenyi9176 trust me they are tight 😂 I don’t like Hagar anyway, they make fake AFDD’s and have always been stupid money for no reason until smaller brands started to wash them out check out Dave saverys Chanel about the AFDD issue
Not only that but those towels go through two different holes! No I'm sure the Eddy currents are low but yeah whoever did that did a nice job < sarcasm.
When drilling a box you should de-burr the hole before fitting the gland.
Makes sure you can get the gland fully screwed tight to flat metal and not stopped by burrs and less likely to cause minor injury to fingers etc if work is altered later.
We use accelerate cutters so the are fine tooth, causing little to no burr
I finished my apprenticeship in 1979. I'm retired now. Things have changed a lot since I was installing boards. My only pet hate is when electricians use impact drivers to tighten/loosen terminal screws. That is not the proper tool for that job. it is too powerful and the terminal screws are usually made of a soft material. It really riles me to see it.
All the best for that young lad going on with his apprenticeship. Well done.
I think if you know the feel of your driver you can quite easily use it to just run the terminal screws up, saves some time in the long run but yes I do agree with over tightening using them,
@@brightsparkmid Each to their own. I just prefer not to use it. I've seen an RCBO destroyed because ot was over-tightened using one of those things.
But enough of that. I loved the video otherwise. Reminded me so much of my younger days "on the tools".
@Alan_AB yes I can agree with that !
Glad you did, there will be an interesting solar video out later today ! Take a look
@@brightsparkmid I will indeed. I'm interested in that technology. Thanks for the heads-up.
Nothing wrong with using it to loosen screws, but tightening is a no no.
Basic 1st step of drilling a hole even with a speed bit like Ashley used, is to DEBURE THE HOLE !!
I NOTICED that it WASNT DONE. AS HIS IMMEDIATE BOSS , AND FILMING IT ASWEL, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED UP STRAIGHT AWAY , BUT I WAS WRONG AND DISAPPOINTED AND SAD TO SEE !! Ashley 1 word of advice from someone that has been an ELECTRICAL ENGINEER FOR 40 years, BUY YOURSELF A DE-BURRING TOOL. THEY ARE NOT EXPENSIVE, BUT GIVE YOU THE SATISFACTION OF A CLEAN HOLE FOR APPLYING A STUFFING GLAND !!
Found that the fine tooth of the armeg bits require virtually no deburing when complete, they are a great tool I agree but only really use them when the big set of hole cutters come out,
But I take it on board and hold my hands up, yes I should probably be less complacent and ensure all holes are de buried,
Thanks for your feedback
Lucky apprentice to have a good mentor👏👏👏
The fine tooth hole hole do not need to be cleaned. De bur police are getting crazy these days
Good man Ash
The 7th hole in each earth bar could be used to bridge the 2 earth bars together
There is others labeled B for this, even if they were used for that it would be out of sync of the positions still
Nice work work but does seem mad to fit a three phase board and spd unit for a single phase supply with 4 outgoing ways
Customers request mate, not much I could do if that’s what they wanted to pay for then that’s what I’ll charge them
I've not use those particular spice connectors but most of those push in connectors have some sort of release procedure if you need to.
Think I would've put the tails in trunking but then again they're high up out of the way they so should be OK.
always enjoy watching these kind of videos, im trying to find someone to take me on for last year as an apprentice but because im an adult learner i dont think anyones interested!
Where are you based?
@@brightsparkmid Im in Leeds, im currently working in maintainance and doing weekends here and there with a friend for a wider range of experience but ideally an apprenticeship would be best!
There seems to be alot of experts in the comment section as per usual lol
👀 lol
@@brightsparkmid hand half of them a snips, they wouldn't know how to use it 😅
When drilling be aware no metal shards drop into any breakers or anything it can cause issues or potentially be dangerous if possible use the hoover to prevent it or turn it on the side and drill n clean out. Pal
No breakers in at the time for that exact reason.
All hovered out prior to power up
With the Exel range I open the isolator and visually check total isolation.
You can, but the lad was using part of this for his portfolio so had to do it this way
I would of left room at the bottom for additional circuits in the future 🙈 no one ever cares about the next guy
Not much more that could go in there to be honest
but but but but what if you had a major fault and you had single phase in short circuit with neutral and earth huuuuuuuuuuh? your proving unit wouldn't do anything. My magic pen would. Or what if you had backfeed from a nearby building that only goes on at certain intervals?
That’s what the stages of testing are designed for, 3 step test on single phase
10 step test on three phase
Did you Torque the terminals ?
Yes several ugga duggers per one, yes all was torqued up upon testing
HAD TO STOP THE APPRENTICE (GONE WRONG GONE SEXUAL) (COPS CALLED) (VIRAL)
Nice work work but does seem mad to fit a three phase board and spd unit for a single phase supply with 4 outgoing ways
Customers request
Good job lad. Why would you replace it with a tpn board when it only has a single phase supply ? A lot of expense for three single phase circuits.
Customer request mate
Jesus I thought fusebox was bath in basement. What is that thing.
Great work ash keep it up 👍
Thanks 👍