I had this same problem as a Shunter at Penzance in the 70s, the sea had been crashing over all night and when we tailed the Plymouth vans about 0610 we got 50 yards and came to a slipping stop. The Postal was due in the same bay at 0630, the sanders were useless due to going through the wash plant 40 times in 24 hours, so I put my hand in and sprinkled sand on one side only and saved the day. The power of sand.
I once got a cab ride in a gronk while it as shunting and if they are slipping like this then inside it will feel like it's shaking itself to pieces! fantastic machines!
Trucks are waiting in the Yard; Tackling them with ease'll "Show the world what I can do", Gaily boasts the Diesel. In and out he creeps about, Like a big black weasel. When he pulls the wrong ones out - Pop goes the Diesel!
Here i am thinking this was filmed mid 90s and confused as to why a random 08 is being filmed only to realise this was post tornado being made. Really emphasises how good camera quality has got in the last decade
Come on! said the diesel. Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on
I have my Ian Allen locomotive recognition paperback with its section on the Class 13. There was some peculiarity about the Tinsley yard which led to their creation. They were made of pairs of 08s with one slaved to the other and fully controlled by jumper cables: I think the slave's cab was also removed. Tinsley Yard was decommissioned in about 1982 and I am pretty certain all the 13s were broken up afterwards.
@@newforestroadwarrior The Hump in Tinsley Yard prevented use of a larger locomotive to shunt due to the risk of grounding; so the solution to heavier trains was the class 13
its... its a connecting rod becuase only 1 wheel is powered. The rest are pulled along. while in modern day diesals all wheels are powered internaly. some steam engines have internal connecting rods.
Class 08s and 09s have two EE506 traction motors. To distribute the power to all three axles they have the external coupling rods. Other diesel locomotives with coupling rods like 03s and 04s have a mechanical gearbox that drives a jack shaft, with no connection to the axles. The coupling rods then connect all three axles to the jack shaft. Locomotives without rods may have traction motors on every axle, or as in some Sentinels have a chain drive to the axles from the transmission within the chassis frame and not visible externally. This doesn't cover every option, but gives you an idea.
This way you are distributing the power of the engine to all the wheels, bigger contact area, more grip, allows you to put in a bigger tractive effort.
same reason they have them on steam engines. either on wheel is the main drive wheel *where the transmission is linked to* or its to not have horrific wheel slip *if all wheels spin but they spin at different speeds....on that note, isnt the class 08 a diesel hydraulic?*
are you that stupid...you must not even know the difference between an A4 and an A1 LOL. The class 08's and their siblings are meant to haul medium sized consists between yards, and occasionally they would pull passenger trains that were either broken down or faulty.
the coach brakes had a delayed release, those 08s are a lot stronger than they look, they can pull all the trains the big boys pull, just at a lower speed
Diesel felt very pleased with himself but the coaches thought otherwise
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
@@sirjohnbuoy8159 Trick trock trick trock, we're going to town, we're going to town
Diesel
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR *explodes*
OW
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Diesel growled, "HRRRrrrr, GRRRRRRR!"
"You're pulling us to hard, you're pulling us to hard!" Yelled the coaches.
Heave ho! Heave ho! You can pull but we won’t go sang the coaches!
😂😂😂😂
Cringe!
I had this same problem as a Shunter at Penzance in the 70s, the sea had been crashing over all night and when we tailed the Plymouth vans about 0610 we got 50 yards and came to a slipping stop. The Postal was due in the same bay at 0630, the sanders were useless due to going through the wash plant 40 times in 24 hours, so I put my hand in and sprinkled sand on one side only and saved the day. The power of sand.
As Diesel sulked back to the yard, the coaches were glad to have put him in his place.
Cringe!
@@TheMusicalElitist You're cringe!
@@TheMusicalElitist no u
And with a growl, diesel pulled the train to the yard
I once got a cab ride in a gronk while it as shunting and if they are slipping like this then inside it will feel like it's shaking itself to pieces!
fantastic machines!
Trucks are waiting in the Yard;
Tackling them with ease'll
"Show the world what I can do",
Gaily boasts the Diesel.
In and out he creeps about,
Like a big black weasel.
When he pulls the wrong ones out -
Pop goes the Diesel!
Man this was one of my favourite little ditties as a child. Thank you!
great way to shift the cranks on the axle
"That's me cried Diesel. The World's Strongest Engine!".- World's Strongest Engine.
Wrong episode!!!
@@user-vh6ts9uf6c Being half awake really does some weird magic don't it? xD
Oh how we took them for granted,, now they are becoming rarer.
Here i am thinking this was filmed mid 90s and confused as to why a random 08 is being filmed only to realise this was post tornado being made. Really emphasises how good camera quality has got in the last decade
No struggle at all. 08's will pull a mountain !
Or pulling its train up a mountain
They will pull the mountain range
Pretty sure wheelslipping counts as struggling
@@Froggyman145 Not really, it just means the rails are poor conditions. A 66 will slip on poor conditions but could easily move this train...
Nah.
"Pop goes the dieeesel!"
Nice catch
That wasn’t struggling, was just a slow brake release
Nah it was weak
That's sure what it looked like. Or driver released loco brake and applied power before releasing train brake.
Thank you for posting a sensible comment. I was beginning to think it was just me.
Come on! said the diesel. Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on
The fat controller would not be pleased
If the driver watched his amp meter in notch one he could of prevented this slow n steady wins the prize
“Grease and oil!” he yelled
Diesel was working loudly and alone.
Alternative title: class 08 pulls a burnout leaving Carlisle
I see a movie coming....
08922: The Little Shunter That Could!
Diesel, you did it!
you don't see wheelslip on irl class 08s that often
"Ha ha ha, hee hee hee,
A very special job for _ME!!"_
Hmmm. I guess Devious Diesel can’t hold Gordon’s coaches haha
I have a vague memory of specially weighted 08s working at Totton yard, or am I imagining it?
Maybe your thinking of the class 13?
@@lukeslocomotives Ah Tinsley, not Totton. Yes this was it, thanks.
I have my Ian Allen locomotive recognition paperback with its section on the Class 13. There was some peculiarity about the Tinsley yard which led to their creation.
They were made of pairs of 08s with one slaved to the other and fully controlled by jumper cables: I think the slave's cab was also removed.
Tinsley Yard was decommissioned in about 1982 and I am pretty certain all the 13s were broken up afterwards.
@@newforestroadwarrior The Hump in Tinsley Yard prevented use of a larger locomotive to shunt due to the risk of grounding; so the solution to heavier trains was the class 13
08 didn't struggle too much : ) -
2009? Not 1990? Has camera quality really improved that much in that time?
Why do they have a bar connecting the wheels togeather on the loco?? And others dont apart from steam trains?...
its... its a connecting rod becuase only 1 wheel is powered. The rest are pulled along. while in modern day diesals all wheels are powered internaly. some steam engines have internal connecting rods.
@@lazypizzaship8911 The design is also from pre BR days (1948)so the drive design mimics the normal for the day usage of connecting rods.
Lazzi pizza ship, not only a wheel but a axle as two wheels are part of one axle set. 👍
Class 08s and 09s have two EE506 traction motors. To distribute the power to all three axles they have the external coupling rods.
Other diesel locomotives with coupling rods like 03s and 04s have a mechanical gearbox that drives a jack shaft, with no connection to the axles. The coupling rods then connect all three axles to the jack shaft. Locomotives without rods may have traction motors on every axle, or as in some Sentinels have a chain drive to the axles from the transmission within the chassis frame and not visible externally.
This doesn't cover every option, but gives you an idea.
@@lazypizzaship8911 2 motors....not one
They can handle double that load
Rarely even see a 08 now even in yards!
I presume the Class 08 driver was Jeremy Clarkson.....
Carriage brakes not coming off when they should?
That's sure what it looked like. Or driver released loco brake and applied power before releasing train brake.
Nice video, Like
Why does that loco have that thing on its wheels? (I don't know what that rod is called.)
This way you are distributing the power of the engine to all the wheels, bigger contact area, more grip, allows you to put in a bigger tractive effort.
@@Hans-gb4mv That's good, but I don't see where the rods connect to the engine.
@@lemonbirdo1353 they don't. One of the axles is linked to the engine.
@@Hans-gb4mv AAAAAH, now it makes a lil more sense to me. Thank you sweet stranger
You tend to assume train people take pride in knowing their stuff. And then you read the comments in here.
This is why steam engines SHOULD HAVE DONE THE JOB
Steamies are better than diesels
May be a dumb question but what’s the purpose of having side rods on a diesel locomotives
same reason they have them on steam engines. either on wheel is the main drive wheel *where the transmission is linked to* or its to not have horrific wheel slip *if all wheels spin but they spin at different speeds....on that note, isnt the class 08 a diesel hydraulic?*
only the outer two axles have traction motors, the con rods transmit the power to the central axle aswell
I live in Carlisle!!!!!!!!!!
Hard luck!
Me in train simulator
That streamlining tho
Is that a diesel electric or a diesel mechanical locomotive?
electric
Nice
I’d hardly call that wheel slip if I’m honest.
Should have gone to specsavers
Another reason why Diesels are more capable than Steam Locomotives. There's no tendency for a wheelslip runaway.
haha that's so embarrassing
It's a shunter,, not designed for pulling coaches. poor little thing
what do you mean? shunter lockos are for heavy load. they are slow not weak.
That's exactly what they were designed for you fool!
are you that stupid...you must not even know the difference between an A4 and an A1 LOL. The class 08's and their siblings are meant to haul medium sized consists between yards, and occasionally they would pull passenger trains that were either broken down or faulty.
Clearly overweight
Unlikely. These shunting units are designed to handle much heavier freight loads.
the coach brakes had a delayed release, those 08s are a lot stronger than they look, they can pull all the trains the big boys pull, just at a lower speed
,your to fat you need exercise,
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