Do you think she was just lashing out. I mean, she did leave flowers on Max's tree, so maybe she needed to distract herself and let out her grief while hiding how she truly felt... maybe
@xeno4116 Aye Yai Yai of course I know Max wasn't dead its been years since that episode aired he's been alive till the end of omniverse ! I'm not stupid ''Mr obvious answers'' Let me ask you this: Throughout the entire episode, did everyone else(the characters Ben and his parents Gwen and her parents Kevin, and Verdona) know that he wasn't dead in that episode Well ?, did they? It's a yes or no question (My apologies, I saw this yesterday, but I forgot to reply cause the Internet was tripping, plus I had to study for something.) But seriously, though, answer the question You will know why afterwards Plus my mistake she didn't leave it on his grave but near Max's tree right? the one with the Max + Verdona in a heart carved on a tree? Another question that you should answer.
@xeno4116 Seriously though what made you think that I thought that Max was dead, was it the way I worded it out? Everyone assumed her was dead anyway until it was proven wrong I was asking a question about how Verdona felt about his death. They both loved each other to the point of having kids I mean they still do even after they split up. I just wondered if she was mourning him and decided to hide her feelings and distract herself while giving off this carefree attitude because she was dying inside, upside about Max's death at the time and decided to let out her frustrations on supposed brats that she didn't know were her grand children (Kevin being her future grandson in law of course)
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 yeah, like when i tried to figure out how was Cousin Sunny an anodite since Max and verdona only had 2 kids, then i found out that they have 3 actually, uncle Manny
@Plusle843 Yeah she could've broken out at anytime Wait, so Max and Verdona had Carl..., how'd thay happen if Anodites are genderless (I don't even wanna think about it)
I wonder if she was just coping, lashing out and hiding how she truely felt about Max's supposed death by distracting herself and never bringing up Max unless someone else did...wish we had a scene with her alone talking to Max's grave. Also I wonder if she's trying to get Gwen off the planet because to her being in a world with no Maxwell Tennyson is a world too painful to stay for long.
I did feel like they rushed the episode in a way. Like. They finally show their Grandmother but she never really reappears again until their other Cousin visits and decides to be a pain in their neck. And only a few cameos. Funny how she was never reintroduced in Omniverse even though the creators could have done so. We don't even get to see her interact with Max at all.
Ben willingly turning into a little monkey creature who shoots webs to fight a mana powered alien super being is just so funny to me 😭😭like bro could've chosen ANY other alien to fight the magic grandma 💀💀
There was a episode about the story on how they met but it would be nice seeing them together during their older years or how they met again after the first meeting years later.
So she just said her race was pure energy.....Energy and with that knowledge he chose monke.....not Chrimastone you know the energy rock absorber....but Monke...c'mon man😂
Verdona has a mastery with energy, so she would have turned chrimastones abilities against him. And shes fast and agile so a small fast physical alien would be best
@@MrNavy8cap. Ben has cronosapiens to age these anodites out of existence, gravitat to create literal supermassive black holes, atomic to create literal stars, feedback who absorbed the literal big bang(easily absorb these) and NRG who is literally an anodite but with radiation.
actually they did, remember that one episode from Ben 10 origin? the one that he visit her house and found an alien cave that replace other old people with their own?
So correct me if I'm wrong haven't seen the series in years. Don't anodites live longer than humans? So if the passing of the physical body releases the anodite form, doesn't that mean that upon her human passing. Gwen would switch to her anodite form?
Yes anodites are extremely powerful they are probably the most powerful after the alien x species Gwen has so much potential I mean Kevin could also live for a long time as well considering his powers.
i always kinda hated this retcon of Gwen's powers tbh. i loved the fact she taught herself how to use magic and became this super powerful sorceress in the future in the original show. it just feels really cheap that she is suddenly this uber powerful pure energy alien.
@@da-vidcargill4975yeah but it doesn't feel like through hardwork...it feels like its fundamentally through her geneology of being a descendant of Verdona. It's the same problem i have with the naruto is the child of prophecy retcon...it destroys a fundamental theme.
Verdonna's race usually perform magic. It's called mana. So I guess Gwen having Charmcaster's book and performing magic was a rare coincidence with her alien bloodline.
which means both gwen and ben are like her too only difference is one gwan can still this kind of alien and still be human at the sametime where for ben he learns how use this aliens powers later. it also means they both already part alien to start with its just they mostly human. they seem to be at least 1/4 of it dna wise but gwan was already learning the magic since first series so having this dna with the magic she already knew just made it easier for gwan to use her powers and alien form. if they are both 1/4 alien seeing as both parents are human which makes both dads 1/2 human and 1/2 alien and their moms all human does grandma alien powers skip a generation or is it something else? seeing in the future both ben and gwen can use these powers just not in same way.which mean max did it with alien had two sons both born human with that dna in them the whole time never knew it and yet its gwans dad fault that she has that alien dna in her in first place. we have no idea if there are male versions of this kind of alien but it seems to be possible have both sexes of this kind if alien their grandma is.and it also seems the powers of this kind are stronger in a female than male which would explain why we see more females with these powers than males. nice scene.😊
I wonder if it’s true that Ben is part anodite too, maybe that’s how he’s able to power/keep the omnitrix. Or wait can’t he just turn into one with the omnitrix already?
@@juliendeluna485 they say that is no DNA of that alien in the watch. if that's true how was it even possible for that alien DNA to be past down on the first place? yes they are pure energy but even they had to have DNA because we know u have to DNA so the other members of the family could born as both alien/human. if Ben and Gwen has that DNA in them because of their father's then explain their other cousin that has the same powers as gwan. so why would they say they no DNA of these aliens if it is shown there is DNA of them in first place.
At least both you and the protaganists got to meet your grandmas. I missed out on meeting both of mine from both my parents. Only one of them heard my voice as a baby through the phone on her deathbed.
The one alien that the omnimatrix has failed to gather dna 🧬/scan so ben can transform into or as azmuth would put it "be walking around in the shoes of another species of creature".
When I first saw Alien Force. With all these retcon changes from Ben 10 classic, I thought someone else was taking charge of making a sequel. Didn't realized Man of Action only did this. 😅
Wait hold up verdona that's was grandpa Max's his wife she is a alien but what kind of alien is she she knows magic why max hiding secret from his grandkids why ben and gwen didn't know they had grandmother where is she is she watch over her grandchildrens she still alive and traveled through space she should wish stay on earth and watch her grandkids all grow up.
A long rant from a cynical adult, I just wanted to get something off my chest: This entire episode has much sadder implications if you think about it. My thoughts go right to Ben’s dad & Gwen’s dad. When they were younger, perhaps college age, their mom leaves their lives permanently. She had her reasons as a space alien, but it would still hurt. And their dad was constantly going in & out of their lives with a job that takes him to parts unknown. They learn to live with that and have their own families. And THEN one day she pops back up in their world like it’s nothing, dazzles the grandkids with these amazing magic tricks & stories. She peaks their interest for basically one day, starts to develop a connection, spends a few hours being in her sons’ lives again, all three generations might just start to feel like a family again, AND THEN SHE’S GONE AGAIN. Permanently. Like it’s nothing. The story has a weekend dad element where the absent parent pops up one day, takes you to Disney World, makes you feel good, & then disappears the next morning. I sense Ben’s dad & Gwen’s dad are expected to not mind at all & not say anything. Just swallow it. Your parents’ desires & careers are priority over their children & grandchildren’s welfare. This episode makes me think about all the things that can go wrong in a family. End of rant.
I would have loved to see Verdona interact with her other son and daughter-in-law (Ben's parents). I created this fanfic in my head called, Transformers Omniverse (which is a crossover between Transformers Animated and Ben 10 Omniverse). Some time before the events of the fanfic, Ben gains a baby sister named Jennifer, and Verdona visits the family to see if Jen would also have Anodite powers. The fanfic also revealed that Verdona had a better relationship with Sandra (Ben's mom) than Natalie (Gwen's mom)...
Remember kids, Grandpa Max clapped the cheeks of pure magic energy
You're wild 😂😂.
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 but I'm not wrong damnit
As far as I know, Max has had two alien love interests.
Verdona might be pure magic but Max had a magic wand.
@@trasegorsuch5140for all we know there’s a third child
Max:(Sigh) Yup, that's my wife. But, I love her.
Its funny because I feel like thats what Max would say
More like an ex.
fun fact: Max never married her
@@Chroniac Interesting but, so?
@@eugenestevenkong9430why Natalie is not happy when she saw her mother in law
Grandma comes
Gives them an ass whooping
Leaves.
You have a point
Do you think she was just lashing out. I mean, she did leave flowers on Max's tree, so maybe she needed to distract herself and let out her grief while hiding how she truly felt... maybe
@@JohnA.-sp9vbgrandpa max is not dead bro
@xeno4116 Aye Yai Yai of course I know Max wasn't dead its been years since that episode aired he's been alive till the end of omniverse ! I'm not stupid ''Mr obvious answers'' Let me ask you this: Throughout the entire episode, did everyone else(the characters Ben and his parents Gwen and her parents Kevin, and Verdona) know that he wasn't dead in that episode
Well ?, did they?
It's a yes or no question
(My apologies, I saw this yesterday, but I forgot to reply cause the Internet was tripping, plus I had to study for something.) But seriously, though, answer the question
You will know why afterwards
Plus my mistake she didn't leave it on his grave but near Max's tree right? the one with the Max + Verdona in a heart carved on a tree? Another question that you should answer.
@xeno4116 Seriously though what made you think that I thought that Max was dead, was it the way I worded it out?
Everyone assumed her was dead anyway until it was proven wrong
I was asking a question about how Verdona felt about his death.
They both loved each other to the point of having kids I mean they still do even after they split up.
I just wondered if she was mourning him and decided to hide her feelings and distract herself while giving off this carefree attitude because she was dying inside, upside about Max's death at the time and decided to let out her frustrations on supposed brats that she didn't know were her grand children (Kevin being her future grandson in law of course)
i really wish she got more screentime. verdona was a very VERY interesting character to me
Can't, too strong. If she is in the room with any opponent she destroys it
@@markhunter3533Yes but we would've loved to know more about the Tennyson 's anodite heritage.
It would have been nice to see more of Verdona. But for plot reasons she had to go since a prime anodite is near invincible.
Besides Ben i guess@@markhunter3533
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 yeah, like when i tried to figure out how was Cousin Sunny an anodite since Max and verdona only had 2 kids, then i found out that they have 3 actually, uncle Manny
Best moment in that episode was when Kevin said: "Dude, I don't know If I could pound your Grandma"
Sterling Archer: "Hey, phrasing!"
Yeah when I heard that I was like "Ayo?
And this. Is called. "Sneaking crap past the radar".
@Plusle843 Yeah she could've broken out at anytime
Wait, so Max and Verdona had Carl..., how'd thay happen if Anodites are genderless (I don't even wanna think about it)
@@Blitz_Blazerthey are made of pure mana, than can do nearly anything with that
I wonder if she was just coping, lashing out and hiding how she truely felt about Max's supposed death by distracting herself and never bringing up Max unless someone else did...wish we had a scene with her alone talking to Max's grave.
Also I wonder if she's trying to get Gwen off the planet because to her being in a world with no Maxwell Tennyson is a world too painful to stay for long.
I did feel like they rushed the episode in a way.
Like. They finally show their Grandmother but she never really reappears again until their other Cousin visits and decides to be a pain in their neck. And only a few cameos.
Funny how she was never reintroduced in Omniverse even though the creators could have done so.
We don't even get to see her interact with Max at all.
@XenonKirito We saw the episode they met but, not present Max
If she was, heck of a way to fuck up your kid's driveway and whoop the asses of your grandkids and their best friend for the fun of it. 😂
Their family reunions must be fun
Ben eventually learns how to access his anodite roots and can cast energy shields Grandma.
That's one of the future timeline Ben, prime Ben never learned that, but maybe it would be possible
@@joaolima7131
Probably why he doesn’t have an anodite transformation, it’s the same reason why he doesn’t have a human one.
Ben willingly turning into a little monkey creature who shoots webs to fight a mana powered alien super being is just so funny to me 😭😭like bro could've chosen ANY other alien to fight the magic grandma 💀💀
He should have chosen Chromastone to absorb her mana and shoot it right back at her
Did ben really choose spider monkey while Chromastone was the right choice because he can absorb anodite energy 💀
Chromastone has a certain limit of how much mana he can absorb. She might overpower him
@@jaidentavira4062 Ben himself said that gwen powers are nothing compared to Chromaston
@@M.I-e7y okay but Verdona's power levels exceed way further than Gwen's
@@cheii_mar I know, but he absorbed her powers without even trying, and he also absorbed the Dagon beam, which is stronger than Anodites.
Even if Venora can overload chromastone, he still hits harder than spidermonkey. Heck, choosing hearblast or swampfire would be wiser
Ah yes the episode that gave us one of Kevin's most iconic lines
Damn brother u remember that
How come they never made an episode where Verdona and Max see each other again 🤔
There was a episode about the story on how they met but it would be nice seeing them together during their older years or how they met again after the first meeting years later.
Felt realistic when Verdona says she and Max grew apart after raising a family and her returning to her home planet after decades on Earth.
So she just said her race was pure energy.....Energy and with that knowledge he chose monke.....not Chrimastone you know the energy rock absorber....but Monke...c'mon man😂
Monke is life, Monke is love.
Verdona has a mastery with energy, so she would have turned chrimastones abilities against him. And shes fast and agile so a small fast physical alien would be best
@@f687sNFMjetray might have been the best pick
No alien can defeat an anodite expect for alien X gwen almost killed all ben 10 ultimate transformations by herself
@@MrNavy8cap. Ben has cronosapiens to age these anodites out of existence, gravitat to create literal supermassive black holes, atomic to create literal stars, feedback who absorbed the literal big bang(easily absorb these) and NRG who is literally an anodite but with radiation.
So Gwen and Ben didn't know their grandmother before this episode? What a weird concept.
I mean she an alien. They didn't know max was a plumber till they were 10
actually they did, remember that one episode from Ben 10 origin? the one that he visit her house and found an alien cave that replace other old people with their own?
@@HieuNguyen-qm2yxNo, that was their aunt, not Grandma.
@@nofacedgoldfish6216 ohh but i mean their name is kinda similar and the way she look when the episode end just make me think it was her
@@HieuNguyen-qm2yxthat was Aunt Vera, who is Grandpa Max's sister
So correct me if I'm wrong haven't seen the series in years. Don't anodites live longer than humans? So if the passing of the physical body releases the anodite form, doesn't that mean that upon her human passing. Gwen would switch to her anodite form?
yess
They're virtually immortal
Yes anodites are extremely powerful they are probably the most powerful after the alien x species Gwen has so much potential I mean Kevin could also live for a long time as well considering his powers.
@@Mcherri
I think Atomix would smoke an Anadite
@@gokuvegeta9500naah.
The creator of Ben 10 admits he doesn’t like Verdona and thats why she doesn’t appear so much in the series.
She is just cringe
Why make an important character that's suppose to move the plot over, and then decide you don't like them, that doesn't make the slightest of sense
@@davidhamilton6883sometime people can hated their own creation like Hanna-Barbera actually hates Scooby Doo.
@@angiereyes7856What, seriously?
@@angiereyes7856 First time hearing THAT one! 😳
At first... I didn't know Ben,Gwen n Ken have Grandma is alien. Same with their cousin Sunny too.
The reveal that divided the fandom.
Bro clapped energy being 😂.
Wow, Max. I see your type now
Man I must;ve not seen this episode. The Tennyson's part alien? So Gwen doesn't have magic? Mind blown
i always kinda hated this retcon of Gwen's powers tbh. i loved the fact she taught herself how to use magic and became this super powerful sorceress in the future in the original show. it just feels really cheap that she is suddenly this uber powerful pure energy alien.
she still does have magic
@@da-vidcargill4975yeah but it doesn't feel like through hardwork...it feels like its fundamentally through her geneology of being a descendant of Verdona. It's the same problem i have with the naruto is the child of prophecy retcon...it destroys a fundamental theme.
@@yunantheobserver6841 exactly. it feels like they stripped away all her hard work and negated a lot of her character development
Verdonna's race usually perform magic. It's called mana. So I guess Gwen having Charmcaster's book and performing magic was a rare coincidence with her alien bloodline.
okay, the background noise at 2:00 freaked me out with the surround head set.
which means both gwen and ben are like her too only difference is one gwan can still this kind of alien and still be human at the sametime where for ben he learns how use this aliens powers later. it also means they both already part alien to start with its just they mostly human. they seem to be at least 1/4 of it dna wise but gwan was already learning the magic since first series so having this dna with the magic she already knew just made it easier for gwan to use her powers and alien form. if they are both 1/4 alien seeing as both parents are human which makes both dads 1/2 human and 1/2 alien and their moms all human does grandma alien powers skip a generation or is it something else? seeing in the future both ben and gwen can use these powers just not in same way.which mean max did it with alien had two sons both born human with that dna in them the whole time never knew it and yet its gwans dad fault that she has that alien dna in her in first place. we have no idea if there are male versions of this kind of alien but it seems to be possible have both sexes of this kind if alien their grandma is.and it also seems the powers of this kind are stronger in a female than male which would explain why we see more females with these powers than males.
nice scene.😊
I wonder if it’s true that Ben is part anodite too, maybe that’s how he’s able to power/keep the omnitrix. Or wait can’t he just turn into one with the omnitrix already?
@@juliendeluna485 they say that is no DNA of that alien in the watch. if that's true how was it even possible for that alien DNA to be past down on the first place? yes they are pure energy but even they had to have DNA because we know u have to DNA so the other members of the family could born as both alien/human. if Ben and Gwen has that DNA in them because of their father's then explain their other cousin that has the same powers as gwan. so why would they say they no DNA of these aliens if it is shown there is DNA of them in first place.
@@juliendeluna485 He is he just doesn't have the spark.
Ben's genes are dormant but probably could access them if he ever embraces it
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 Anodites don't have genes in the conventional sense they have the spark.
Max's type in girls in everything not human!🤣
😂
Max surely had the best space adventure to tell
I guess Ben doesn’t have any anodite DNA in him.
Great!
1:59 That explains why Gwendolyn’s parents didn’t tell their daughter about their alien ancestry
And I thought my grandma was bad,their grandma is the worst
At least both you and the protaganists got to meet your grandmas. I missed out on meeting both of mine from both my parents. Only one of them heard my voice as a baby through the phone on her deathbed.
@@TheVocalTune sorry for ur lost bro
We know where Ben got his sence of humor from
Grandpa Max got that DAWG IN EM
Brother , Max is getting the dreamiest Alien chicks
Verdona is legit the worst. Max, what the hell wanted you to stick it anywhere NEAR that?
Enegrussy .😂
Grandpa Max plumbed those cheeks.
Max has a thing for obviously inhuman but humanoid alien chicks.
Verdona got that mouth action. She can literally suck the life force out of a man.
🇧🇷Uma Bela Personagem que Merecia volta
Damn.... Grandpa Max was wild in his plumbing days .... 🤣🤣
Yes
@@JIMMY33465 true answer....
@@jesterblue6466 brother im 24 I still love this show ben 10 was my first childhood superhero
The one alien that the omnimatrix has failed to gather dna 🧬/scan so ben can transform into or as azmuth would put it "be walking around in the shoes of another species of creature".
Grand is a real CHAD
I wonder where Gwen’s powers came from
No Wonder She’s Not In The Ben 10 Original Series
When I first saw Alien Force. With all these retcon changes from Ben 10 classic, I thought someone else was taking charge of making a sequel. Didn't realized Man of Action only did this. 😅
I wish he would bring it back, either more of the OG Ben 10 adventures or Alien Force, my grandkids are watching and rewatching Ben 10 on Netflix
Wait hold up verdona that's was grandpa Max's his wife she is a alien but what kind of alien is she she knows magic why max hiding secret from his grandkids why ben and gwen didn't know they had grandmother where is she is she watch over her grandchildrens she still alive and traveled through space she should wish stay on earth and watch her grandkids all grow up.
Thought gwen was naked at first
How would Carl react to seeing his mom 😢
They're seriously gonna fight their own grandmother?! 😑😅🧐🤯😳😗
The grandma they never knew, she feels more like a stranger.. She’s the grownup btw, so she’s the one supposed to not fight her grandkids.
Dang Grandpa Max got to tap multiple alien women…
Uk idk why ben doesn’t scan his grandma dna then he could turn into her species and go ultimate
The real question is why didn't he use Chromastone ,he can absorb anodite energy
Anodites are pure energy they don't have DNA
@@Proaz15 but writers said that omnitrix can scan dagon dna and dagon is a pure energy too
What I don't understand is why Ben does have these powers as well?
Wait does this main ben also part anodite and has a anodite form
They are making a live action version of Ben 10, with Tom Holland as Ben 10
So we are not talking about ben punched his grandmother in the face
Episode
Alien force ep 8 I think
@@yur0_628 yes
Name: What are little girls made of
@@sonicgamer1139
Scratch my last comment i didn’t realize the F ness from my comment until i double checked
Question: Can Omnitrix ever scan the DNA of an anodite and thus help Ben transform into one?
Due to plot reason, the Ommitrix can't scan the anodite
❤❤❤❤goxi tei
What's her problem?
Was Grandpa down that bad?
Hafia w ageuk aje
Does this mean ben has the genetic potential for energy powers too since hes part anodite?
Yup. In one of Ben's futures, Ultimate Ben learns mana manipulation himself.
Wait so Gwen’s mom has powers too
No, Gwen's mom is a regular human. Her dad is part alien but he never had the "spark".
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Why she kinda-
I guess so.
In fact, I have never liked Grandma as a character.
So does mean Ben is half alien?
Brother I love this old ben 10 not the new tra*sh omniverse and reboot
Yes,but no. His dad is "half Alien" and that would make Ben a quarter Alien,but anodites don't have a DNA.
@@AyueKodamaes hi bro I think u love old ben 10 like me
@@AyueKodamaes so yes and no
Naku telugu lo kavali
A long rant from a cynical adult, I just wanted to get something off my chest:
This entire episode has much sadder implications if you think about it.
My thoughts go right to Ben’s dad & Gwen’s dad.
When they were younger, perhaps college age, their mom leaves their lives permanently. She had her reasons as a space alien, but it would still hurt. And their dad was constantly going in & out of their lives with a job that takes him to parts unknown. They learn to live with that and have their own families. And THEN one day she pops back up in their world like it’s nothing, dazzles the grandkids with these amazing magic tricks & stories. She peaks their interest for basically one day, starts to develop a connection, spends a few hours being in her sons’ lives again, all three generations might just start to feel like a family again,
AND THEN SHE’S GONE AGAIN. Permanently. Like it’s nothing.
The story has a weekend dad element where the absent parent pops up one day, takes you to Disney World, makes you feel good, & then disappears the next morning.
I sense Ben’s dad & Gwen’s dad are expected to not mind at all & not say anything. Just swallow it. Your parents’ desires & careers are priority over their children & grandchildren’s welfare.
This episode makes me think about all the things that can go wrong in a family.
End of rant.
this was when i stopped watching the series. gwen's powers coming from her alien grandma instead of magic ruined it all for me.
It was in her DNA but the magic just needed to be reawakened that’s why she was so drawn to it..
I would have loved to see Verdona interact with her other son and daughter-in-law (Ben's parents).
I created this fanfic in my head called, Transformers Omniverse (which is a crossover between Transformers Animated and Ben 10 Omniverse).
Some time before the events of the fanfic, Ben gains a baby sister named Jennifer, and Verdona visits the family to see if Jen would also have Anodite powers.
The fanfic also revealed that Verdona had a better relationship with Sandra (Ben's mom) than Natalie (Gwen's mom)...
Verdona Max’s Wife
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