I have the TKO, which is good but the edge guard is broken in 3 places in 3 months. Sending it back for fixing. Hope it doesn’t take too long. Cost money and have to wait.
Great review - just ordered the ESQ-C 14.3 - I think I may just dive off the high board and try your .5 tape around the perimeter setup - keep up the good work man - thanks!
Wonder if I'm the only one expecting the bigger paddle companies to be coming out with new paddles that thermoformed although the 5.5 inch handle, lower swing weight and lifetime warranty are definitely nice
@@ernest4483 I use the 12.7 MM pretty unforgiving but I was able to make the adjustment and it takes a little more focus and effort but I'm able to reset/drop/dink just fine. In return my drives, speed ups and counters are highly effective.
Another great content and review Jacob of the Bantams ESQ-C, I do have the the TKO-CX 14.3mm, the ESQ-C 14.3mm is tempting and eyeing on it, red and white version looks awesome
@@AllDriveNoDropPickleballYour welcome Jacob, btw I pulled the trigger and purchased the Bantam ESQ-C 14.3mm version Aurora colorway it will be arriving next week can't wait to play with the paddle, I do have the Bantam TKO-CX 14.3mm Riptide colorway so far I'm liking it the power and pop is there spin is ridiculous
I have the ALW-C 12.7 and love it. You definitely need to weigh it for the sweet spot, otherwise it the ball dies - specially closer to the handle. I would like to try the 14.3 as well. Thanks! Good review!
Good review! Would you say the difference in control is massively different between the 12.7 & the 14.3 or incremental? Also, is the 14.3 still pretty good for hands battles or do you give up too much vs. the 12.7? Thanks
I have an R2 Ripple now and I find it a bit much to control at this point. My main is a 16mm Monarch All Court. Looking to see if it's worth getting an ESQ. Would I be gaining power and pop, but decreasing control if I got a 14.3 compared to my Monarch? The 12.7 would probably be too hard to control? Thanks!
Yeah, especially adding weight to it you will be getting a power and pop upgrade and sacrificing some sweet spot and control. I think the 14.3 ESQ is controllable for good amount with practice
Thanks for reviewing them. I guess one of the closest that you can compare these to is the Jelly Bean, since that’s not thermoformed too. I would assume that the Jelly Bean would have more control vs these, but since you’ve played with them, I would like to ask your thoughts.
Yeah, Jelly Bean has a lot more control. They have the same gen 1 construction but whatever polymer core Paddletek uses has a lot more juice in it. These are also come lighter with a lower SW. The Jelly Bean has more control and is easier to use if you struggle with poppy paddles.
so coming from a monarch all court is it worth it for me to upgrade to the 12.7? or should i just be going for the ripple r2? or is there not enough of a difference that i should be waiting for something new. i love the all court just wish it had more power.
12.7 is a big enough power and pop upgrade to be worth it. The ripple goes even farther than that just depends on if you want the extreme and it is harder to control.
So many good paddles out. Love your reviews. I main a j2k now. Thi king about the esqc or the ripple r2. I love the sweet spot of j2k and the controllability. Just want more pop on counters and a touch more power. Would u go r2 or esqc
I didn’t notice the table or mention where you show the before and after weight setup for SW/TW/balance/etc,etc. do you have a timestamp so I can refer to it?
I want your opinion on something. The PaddleTek paddles seem to be the most common used paddle for sale on the Discord Marketplace. Do you think it’s because they are so popular or because they aren’t for everyone (people try it and move on). Well?
Hi Jacob, I've seen a few reviewers compare the TMPR TC-14 Pro to some of the Paddletek paddles. What are your thoughts comparing the TC-14 Pro to the TKO and the new ALW/ESQ paddles?
Yeah, it is a great choice if you want something similar in the hybrid shape. Definitely needs to be weighted up to get too performance as it is a little twisty on resets
@AllDriveNoDropPickleball the TC-14 seems like such an interesting paddle. Would you consider it plush with longer dwell time or stiff feeling? I wish there are more reviews on it. That being said, for whatever reason, there are so many USA- made paddle companies in Michigan!
@AllDriveNoDropPickleball I did a couple times. Just rewatched it and realize I forgot some points you went through on that review. Really sorry about that. How would you compare the feel of it vs the Ronbus Pulsar FX? The FX is on the top of my list after your suggestion from before, as well as the Nexus Prostar, but I'm always trying to keep in mind of the made in US options as well.
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I have the TKO, which is good but the edge guard is broken in 3 places in 3 months. Sending it back for fixing. Hope it doesn’t take too long. Cost money and have to wait.
Great review - just ordered the ESQ-C 14.3 - I think I may just dive off the high board and try your .5 tape around the perimeter setup - keep up the good work man - thanks!
Thank you and have fun with it! Let me know how that weight setup goes
Will do!
@@RTJ-PB How has it been?
It’s great - definitely recommend weighting all the way around with the .5 tape - still light and hits hard!
Wonder if I'm the only one expecting the bigger paddle companies to be coming out with new paddles that thermoformed although the 5.5 inch handle, lower swing weight and lifetime warranty are definitely nice
I'm still rocking the TKO-Cx and I love it. Excited to see some wide body options.
so how's your experience with the TKO-CX 14.3mm, do you have the 12.7mm or 14.3mm
@@ernest4483 I use the 12.7 MM pretty unforgiving but I was able to make the adjustment and it takes a little more focus and effort but I'm able to reset/drop/dink just fine. In return my drives, speed ups and counters are highly effective.
@@y2washere I will probably get the TKO-CX 14.3mm probably soon before 10% discount code expires on 11/25
Another great content and review Jacob of the Bantams ESQ-C, I do have the the TKO-CX 14.3mm, the ESQ-C 14.3mm is tempting and eyeing on it, red and white version looks awesome
Thank you Ernest!
@@AllDriveNoDropPickleballYour welcome Jacob, btw I pulled the trigger and purchased the Bantam ESQ-C 14.3mm version Aurora colorway it will be arriving next week can't wait to play with the paddle, I do have the Bantam TKO-CX 14.3mm Riptide colorway so far I'm liking it the power and pop is there spin is ridiculous
Very helpful description and comparisons for the ESQ. Thank you!
You do great reviews man.
Thank you!
I have the ALW-C 12.7 and love it. You definitely need to weigh it for the sweet spot, otherwise it the ball dies - specially closer to the handle. I would like to try the 14.3 as well. Thanks! Good review!
Another great review Jacob! I wish Paddltek made a hybrid with that technology. The Bantam esq with a little more length would be great.
Thank you! For sure, a hybrid would be a nice addition to their lineup.
R u still liking these or r you back on hybrids? 🎉
I play all shapes constantly right now busy paddle season
What would be difference in ALW and ALW-C? Is it worth extra cost for the C? I like a shorter handle. Not a two handed backhand player
They are very similar if you already have the old version I’d only upgrade the if you want the longer handle
Great stuff. Where’s the best tungsten placement on Alw-c 12.7 (new version)? 1/2 g or 1g per inch? Thanks
I go all the way around starting at the top of the handle but going from the top to bottom corner helps too
Good review! Would you say the difference in control is massively different between the 12.7 & the 14.3 or incremental? Also, is the 14.3 still pretty good for hands battles or do you give up too much vs. the 12.7? Thanks
Both are good for hands battles. The difference is enough to make an impact in control for sure between the two thicknesses.
So can that difference be minimized with addition of perimeter weighting?
@@greggzel5662 Yeah, it definitely helps. Sounds like you want me to talk you into one thing. Both are good just depends which tradeoff you want
Thanks for your response. Just ordered the 12.7 using your code. Appreciate your input.
@@greggzel5662 appreciate the support and hope you enjoy!
I have an R2 Ripple now and I find it a bit much to control at this point. My main is a 16mm Monarch All Court. Looking to see if it's worth getting an ESQ. Would I be gaining power and pop, but decreasing control if I got a 14.3 compared to my Monarch? The 12.7 would probably be too hard to control? Thanks!
Yeah, especially adding weight to it you will be getting a power and pop upgrade and sacrificing some sweet spot and control. I think the 14.3 ESQ is controllable for good amount with practice
Thanks for reviewing them. I guess one of the closest that you can compare these to is the Jelly Bean, since that’s not thermoformed too. I would assume that the Jelly Bean would have more control vs these, but since you’ve played with them, I would like to ask your thoughts.
Yeah, Jelly Bean has a lot more control. They have the same gen 1 construction but whatever polymer core Paddletek uses has a lot more juice in it. These are also come lighter with a lower SW. The Jelly Bean has more control and is easier to use if you struggle with poppy paddles.
Swing weight is low, but do you find that the wide paddle limits your ability to “whip it” due to wind drag ??
Maybe a little on something like a one handed backhand swinging volley but I think it is easier on speedups and rolls
In the video, you said they compare to 2 of the paddles that aren't out officially. What paddles would that be?
Ripple
so coming from a monarch all court is it worth it for me to upgrade to the 12.7? or should i just be going for the ripple r2? or is there not enough of a difference that i should be waiting for something new. i love the all court just wish it had more power.
12.7 is a big enough power and pop upgrade to be worth it. The ripple goes even farther than that just depends on if you want the extreme and it is harder to control.
@@AllDriveNoDropPickleball thank you :)
So many good paddles out. Love your reviews. I main a j2k now. Thi king about the esqc or the ripple r2.
I love the sweet spot of j2k and the controllability. Just want more pop on counters and a touch more power. Would u go r2 or esqc
Tough one, really depends how much control you want to sacrifice I think the ESQ-C 14.3 is a good in between but id you want the extreme the ripple r2
@@AllDriveNoDropPickleball appreciate the feedback. Gonna think about it, maybe I'll be fiscally responsible and buy both, lol
@@MrPanthers23 😂 you’re welcome
@AllDriveNoDropPickleball used your code. Decided on the 14.3. Thanks fir all the replies and feedback to help me make a decision.
Thanks for the review! Would you be able to review the new kiwilabs circuit paddle?
Yep, I’ll be talking about it soon.
I didn’t notice the table or mention where you show the before and after weight setup for SW/TW/balance/etc,etc. do you have a timestamp so I can refer to it?
I don’t have think I included it. With wrapping the whole head I believe it was around a sw of 120ish for each one and a tw over 8
@@AllDriveNoDropPickleball oh ok. I thought I missed something. Next time. 👍🏽
What are your thoughts on these vs Olympus?
Similar paddles with different tech and different shapes. I like playing with the ESQ 12.7 and 14.3 a lot but like Hybrids more
I want your opinion on something. The PaddleTek paddles seem to be the most common used paddle for sale on the Discord Marketplace. Do you think it’s because they are so popular or because they aren’t for everyone (people try it and move on). Well?
I think you see that a lot with the poppy paddles because people can’t control them. Also think people aren’t adding weight which the bantams need
Hi Jacob, I've seen a few reviewers compare the TMPR TC-14 Pro to some of the Paddletek paddles. What are your thoughts comparing the TC-14 Pro to the TKO and the new ALW/ESQ paddles?
Yeah, it is a great choice if you want something similar in the hybrid shape. Definitely needs to be weighted up to get too performance as it is a little twisty on resets
@AllDriveNoDropPickleball the TC-14 seems like such an interesting paddle. Would you consider it plush with longer dwell time or stiff feeling? I wish there are more reviews on it. That being said, for whatever reason, there are so many USA- made paddle companies in Michigan!
@@jatseng0000 I have a review on it did you watch that already?
@AllDriveNoDropPickleball I did a couple times. Just rewatched it and realize I forgot some points you went through on that review. Really sorry about that. How would you compare the feel of it vs the Ronbus Pulsar FX? The FX is on the top of my list after your suggestion from before, as well as the Nexus Prostar, but I'm always trying to keep in mind of the made in US options as well.
@@jatseng0000Definitely quite different paddles depends if you want high pop then paddleteks or tmpr. FX is great too if you want a solid all court
More power and control than a 6.0 Black Diamond?
Because of the shape maybe for some just depends how comfortable you are with high pop
What is the static weight on your esq-c 12.7mm?
7.9 I believe
How's the dwell time on these?
They are very poppy but you can get good dwell time with finesse shots
Whens the valor pro review video coming out. I see it in the background haha
I’ll be talking about it on the podcast this week
Can you review Friday Challenger paddle?
Possibly, I reaches out to Friday.
Hi, what kind of hat are you wearing in the video?
Salt Mafia
10:47 dirrrrty serve lol.
😂
I never played with anything thinner than 14mm.