The 2ZZ-Swapped JDM Toyota MR-S | A Budget Lotus Elise Build?!
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Hey guys! Today on the show we talk to the owner of this 2ZZ-swapped 1999 Toyota MR-S (MR2 Spyder) imported from Japan and built into the ultimate midship track weapon. With a sophisticated variable valve timing design, the 2ZZ was fitted in a number of sports cars over the years, including the Lotus Elise and Exige. Now it lives the rest of its days putting in work on the street and at the track. Enjoy!
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"We race because we're not allowed to go to war."
Literally in the middle of swapping a 2zz into my mr2. Taking a lunch break and this video pops into my feed... wow haha
I used to do so much with those 2zzge engines in the past ...i even have a set of new Crower Max-lite rods for this engine on a shelf doing nothing.
Hell yeah join the club!
My mate has done 10 plus conversions please put a lightweight flywheel and lsd. Or don’t bother
@@justinread5609 got to to love a guy giving his opinion about something based off the opinion of someone else. Do you take vegans advice when they take about meat too? A true original you are!
Steve Sanders I have driven about 6 2zz most of the ones my mate built spent many late nights helping him out,how many 2zz swaps have you driven ? with different set ups and so I do have some experience and would say more than most I have also help build a couple of k swap mr2s. And I am in the middle of my k24 build. So not a opinion of someone else, how about you ask nicely about why I said instead of being another keyboard warrior. Oh I do eat meat lots of it as I have experience alot in fact I was a competitive powerlifter for over 30 years so tend to need a lot of meat to do that
Never understood why people think it’s ugly. It’s gorgeous to me.
the lemmings automatically hate convertibles. I agree that a soft top will never look good. it turns a Ferrari into an ugly disposable looking thing. cloth does not look good draped over metal. That said, nobody in the US knew about the double bubble factory hardtop for this car because it was only for sale in Japan and only enthusiasts knew about and shipped them over to install. Not saying that would have saved the car, but that it basically needs it to look good.
It is weird looking and I own one. The 2nd gen is the looker of the three.
Because it looks like a cute anime character
@@Salvisol the 2nd gen only looks good from the front at an angle, maybe also the rear. and with huge exceptions (like a TRD wing or full 2000gt kit). That front overhang is massive and ruins the shape otherwise. I just can't understand having 5 feet of front bumper drooping over the front wheels. like wtf is that, melted craft cheese? and I used to like SW20s. I owned one before the zzw30 and once someone pointed out how long the front end is i couldn't unsee it. ultimately what got me over it was mine rusted out in 14 years and I bought it immaculate from an older person. The spyder is much better at being rust resistant. that alone is worth it. the one i picked up is 5 years OLDER than my SW20 was when I first bought it and it held up way better.
People who don't like the spyder again, first thing they see is "small". (americans automatically hate that). 2nd thing they see is bulbular headlights. not sure why this is such an issue because it's inherent in most classic 60s cars anyway but whatever. 3rd they see is horsepower. that microscopic poo shoot and bicycle thin tires. and it looks slow as hell. just like with the 2nd gen, a TRD gt300 kit fixes all of these. just put a nice fat dual exhaust through the rear bumper as well.
@@Andrei-cp5jr sure, If you think every single double bubble roof mid engine car looks like an anime character. all porsches, all lotuses, and every 60s race car with round headlights. then yea.
With the Supra back, Toyota needs to bring this car back
rumors are maybe next year and it might be an electric or hybrid car...
Supposedly an all electric or hybrid car? Scotty Kilmer made a video....not saying he has all encompassing knowledge
LOL. The Supra is not back, maybe Toyota could get Lotus to build them a new MR2 that seems to be their thing.
lxs077 which means most likely no manual again.. unless they pull a Honda CR-Z
Its been said that to build a sports, these days companies need to partner up (Supra/Z4, FRS/BRZ, ect.) I would be happy if Toyota brought back the MR2 in partnership with Honda so they can bring back the Beat.
We own a Mk3 MRS with a 3.5l V6 from an evora in it... Basically a budget Evora/supercar slayer with 320bhp and 900kgs
Ya i'm fortunate enough that we have a local guy with a 2gr 3rd gen and two guys with 2gr second gen. I think another one of us is building a 2gr first gen as we speak lol. amazing people and builds.
how does that change handling? Does it introduces a lot more oversteer?
@@povilaslondon no bro snap oversteer is only for 2nd gen
@@cainesteban6679 I'm not talking about snap oversteer
I just woke up today and suddenly, I love the MR-S styling. It has grown on me alot. If only it had been 2zz from factory. This car had so many TRD extras available when it first came out, you could make such a dope looking car using parts from the factory. The hardtop and rear wing really makes it look better. Toyota's cars from this period in time were all so cool, they all had TRD options from the factory. I don't think we'll ever see something like that again. The MR-S really was the end of an era.
I got a 3rd gen MR2 with front/side skirts and a spoiler and it looks SO much better. It actually draws more attention than the Sw20. The engine was a missed oppurtunity but it can be easily fixed with mods, the convertible is the best thing IMO, I drive as often as possible without the top and its SO much fun, I don't know why people hate it. The solid roof is nice but not worth it when it costs as much as an Mk1 MR2!
@@Zeriel00I really wish there was a quality aftermarket option for a hard top for zzw30.
It grows on you through the video it starts getting a mini Porsche vibe the more you look at it.
daniel normandeau looks like a Cayman, and with the wing a GT4
2zz the most underrated motor, very similar with the k20 but the only difference is the displacement. Toyota needs to bring back this motor asap
It actually sound a lot like a k20a
@@oldsklteg right, I use to own a 2002 Celica gts(trd package) and it was a really fun car to drive...
I still have my 03 xrs with factory 17s and sunroof. 263k still goin strong
2ZZ is more comparable to a B18. Since both are 1.8l
bbb Nice! Factory 17’s and a sunroof? Must have been a 2003 thing only. I have a 03 XRS non-sunroof with 17’s.. bone stock with a k & n drop in filter.. with 100,000 miles on a JDM swapped 2ZZ.
With the 2zz you can get about 190 hp to go with the 2100 lb car is a great combination. Hard to convey how much fun it really is.
Why the 2ZZ over a turbo kit though? a built 1ZZ would be cheaper, have lower torque, and have a higher ceiling of power than the 2ZZ
@@Zeriel00 NA is just so much more fun to me in a lightweight car. But I'm going with Frankenstein Motorworks' 2AR swap to get more torque and power than a 2ZZ. Also better reliability, cheaper replacements, fuel economy, etc.
The engine bay gets plenty hot NA, turbo just seems like a headache to deal with. But if you want big power it's still your best choice.
@@Weimerica8841 Or you can go 2zz turbo and that's fun
2zzge with rotrex is amazing deal! 300++ hp low torque stock internals and safe tunning👌
K20 itb. The best
I’ve watched this video 7+ times, this video made me go out and buy a 2001 MR2 Spyder. It’s so much fun and got it for less than $3000. Can’t wait to start modding it. Great video! Thank you guys!
Get a CAA membership as well.
It's the funnest car ever extremely underrated
I want one and keep the 1ZZ and turbo that. My daily is a sexy '03 XRS with a 2ZZ. Or even keep it stock and focus on suspension only.
I want to swap my engine but should I just wait until this engine gives out?! It’s a well taken care of car. It’s only been own by my dad before me.
Just finishing my 2zz swap with lsd diff cannot wait
No you're not.
Just bought my donor recipient! Gonna ride out the 1ZZ for now to get used to the car. Have you done anything to brakes/susp?
I love the track toys. Having a big powerhouse monster is fun and all but these little light weight track toys are so much more enjoyable. Its funny how I've had all the fan boy cars from BNR32s, to my current JZA80 but yet the two cars I miss the most are the little DC2 ITR and S2000. That really says alot of about these cars.
Never understood the hate on 3rd gen MR2s.... I think they look great in a different way to the prior generations
Always wanted to drive a 3rd Gen, especially after watching a Touge Battle against Keichi Tsuchiya in an AE86
That Techno Pro Spirits MR-S is a demon
Willyb shreddn there pretty cheap too but not after this vid :)
@@JB-sv5pr same happens in the video game collecting world.
These gamer TH-camrs will mention a game for let's say the NES that's worth $15....not even rare, but recognized it as a sleep hit title......was that game increase from $15 to $75 in a weeks time.
Willyb shreddn yeah it’s crazy when I was 16 first and second gen rx7z were going for 1500$ to 2000$ for nice condition ovb now the market is anywhere from 3500$ to 5000$ lmfao my rusty ae86 is worth about 5000$ here in Hawaii
Almost like the setup of Spirit MR-S in Best motoring.love it. Gotta love that Toyota sound.
Need 1.5 way lsd. Makes the biggest difference.
This man knows his MR2 Spyder.
What lsd did you get?
@Ruby Badilla limited slip differential. It make it to where if one wheel loses traction it will send power to the other wheel. Mr2 spyders dont come stock with them so if one wheel loses traction it just sends all the power to that wheel and it just spins
The JDM versions have a LSD option.
@@kimoliburd8829 torsen/helical diffs are No comparable to a clutch type diff.
Wow that is a beautiful build ! Owner made the 3rd Gen look better.
I know the need for power. I have a 2.0L stroked 2zz. Pushing about 221whp right now. Waiting on my custom intake manifold.
I love my spyder. I’d love to do the 2zz swap but I’ll be saving for that once the motor goes. Being a midship car you’d think it would be difficult to work on but it’s as easy as it gets with oil changes and sharing components with economy Toyota models corolla, matrix and echo the replacement parts are cheap! It’s one of those cars that has aged gracefully, I get a lot of what kind of car is that? And a lot of Porsche people waving is cool. People better hop on them before the value sky rockets. An underrated car in my opinion.
...once the motor goes?You'll be waiting till your motor die?And if it doesn't?I'm in the same dillema...
vengod7 I don’t plan on breaking it right away...well I hope not lol I have the early model 00 that is notorious for issues and I’m pretty sure the motor has been replaced. I’ll be doing numerous auto x so that may wear it down a bit lol I’m okay with it being underpowered as it is great on gas and fun to drive for now
Today I race my stock 1zz mr2 spyder against a celica 2zz and I was shocked. We went from a dig and I went 1 car in front of him. I could hear him when he hit lift and shifted but still I remained in front of him until 70mph when I let off the gas. The. He actually passed me
I have a 2005 Corolla xrs that came with a 2zzge and boy this thing is fun to drive!
One of the most if not the most affordable daily car with a true notorsports pedigree..on a maintenance, economy and maintenance aspect it is almost unbeatable and also it's not too powerful to be considered dangerous.. And the best of all, once you get used to it you can always boost it!
I love all the gens but for some reason im loving the headlights of the 3rd gen the most
great sports car for youngsters with not that much cash in their pockets
If only...these cars have gone up like crazy in the last 1-2 years. you could get them for next to nothing before that. And to do this swap correctly really isnt cheap if you're starting from scratch.
This is one of my dream builds. For now I want to build a nice 2zzge powered Celica as seen on my channel. \m/ Thanks for featuring such a unique Toyota.
I want to do an MR-S next and FA20 swap it.
Would their be room.... IMO better motors out their unless your going after a baby mid engine Porsche!
Im trying to imagine am H4 engine swapped into an transverse oriented chassis 🤔🤔 yeah good luck with that
oldsklteg it’s been done already... th-cam.com/video/HNlmqi0Fuag/w-d-xo.html
Do a K swap lol
I saw recently that someone k24 swapped a gt86 and claimed it saved 141 lbs of weight. If like to keep a zz in the mr-s to keep the weight down but it isn't a reliable motor. The k adds weight. I'd imagine the boxer as quite a bit then
Driven a 2zz swapped MR-S. Legit the perfect engine for the car. I have a 2zzge celica and the weight difference in the MR-S you can feel its quicker by a half decent amount. it feels like if added a solid 20WHP to my celica, much more rapid and eager.
What a beautiful car. The red make its pop and I am not a big wing person but it just looks right. Sound is fantastic as well.
My XRS is no MR-S, but when valve lift hits.. it doesnt matter! I own a fucking “sportscar” that I sleep in when I get too drunk on the weekends 🤦🏾♂️🙋🏾♂️. I love my 2ZZ!
I love the mr2 not sure why they are not more popular.
Toyota's 2ZZ engine courtesy of Yamaha
these cars are very overlooked in terms of potential, stock they are lacking in power and tbh they look a little high and ugly but with some lower suspension and some tastefull mods and the 2zz or a kseries honda engine they are amazing
Very very very little in ways of storage though. I think people just hate the fact that there's essentially no real trunk/frunk space.
@@TechInspectedI don't think anyone is buying this for trunk space......that's literally the worst argument against why people do not buy them that I've ever heard lol.
@@dy2str33t-king5 Thing is, you have to consider that a Miata is essentially the same. But a Miata has a much more vibrant modding and track scene. Which one has a million variants of roll bars? Miata. Which one has affordable hardtops, Miata. Lots of parts and a more standard FR layout, Miata. I know its pretty dumb, but 1 million+ cars sold and being dubbed the best roadster of all time makes the Miata the only real choice here if you're not at all interested in being different just to be different. Heck even Miata power mods are a million to one vs the MR-S because of the much smaller engine cabin on the MR-S.
I'm not saying I don't love this car because I do. Toyota is my favorite car brand. But at the same price as a Miata this no-trunk car is a very tough sell. Miata NA has a significant trunk and NB even hides the spare for bigger trunk. On top of that like I said no real reason why you'd choose an MR-S over MX-5. There's almost no positives in the MR-S department hence its not a choice most people make. If the MR-S had a decent trunk, it may have had a fighting chance.
@@TechInspected Where I am you can get miatas for less, or at least more readily available at lower prices. It does make a bit more power though and being mid-engined is a big draw for some. IMO miata if that doesn't matter to you, mr2 if it does.
4 years ago, before the world gone upside down, and the over price imports “tax” if the Mazda MX-5/ Miata and the Honda S2000. This video push me to find a mr2 spyder.
Thank you making informed video.❤
I miss my 2zzge mr2 soo much. hoping to bring it back to life this fall :D
Love these little beasts, seriously considering putting a V6 in mine. I had a great CR-V until I drove one of these, and promptly sold it and found a nice Spyder very professionally repainted in a sorta dark blue/green, sorta teal metallic, that just looks great. And I like this build a lot too, great color, and I love the wheels/tire combo; I know nowadays everybody's into the huge rims and super-low-profile tires, but a properly set-up suspension works with the 'give' of the tires, or however one would describe it, and it just looks much cooler, more authentic, sorta vintage, just way better looking than it would with the huge rims and the almost-gone-roll-of-electrical-tape tires on it... Kudos for going with the excellent wheels, and great overall build! Diggin' it!!
The handling is really where this car shines is so much fun to take corners fast
Prof. Charles Xavier is driving 2ZZ MR-Spyder now? I love your review man.
Always loved the look of these, and have been itching to get one and do this very swap (adding it to an already long list of builds I want to do). Maybe after my Speed3... It looks like a blast.
Those cars are monsters on autocross and tight tracks.
SWEET RIDE! 100/100
Anime stickers are the best stickers to put on a car 👌
weebs unite!
@@WcDiu hell yeah!
Awesome to see the Spyder get some love. Sure, many think it's looks are a bit odd, but a few little mods and I think it looks great. Stock ones do well in autox and that 2ZZ swap looks like it really makes it into a seriously fun car.
looks much cooler with hard top
Love the MR-S, also a Sinon sticker on the wing? Noice. 👍
DraKKar right
as a dude whose done a 2zz sawp on a 7th gen celica gt, this is definitely going to be my next project!
Nice video. The 2ZZ has variable valve lift in addition to variable valve timing (unlike the stock 1ZZ). It is the higher lift cams that provide the extra power at high rpm (in the video, continually refers to variable valve timing, which both the the 1ZZ and 2ZZ share). The 2ZZ with the 6 speed transforms this car; much more fun to drive, and still provides great gas mileage and a similar driving experience to the stock car at lower rpm's.
The Elise/Exige had the best version of 2zz 200bhp 3k of lift revved to 8600rpm no need for a k20 then!
Naw. K20 is way better lol.
@@TougeTime indeed. K20 is another 20-30bhp more plus aftermarket support is unrivaled
@@TougeTime is a 2 Litre and more modern 2zz produced in 98.
@@chrismorris268 UK k20 is 197 jdm is 213 not much difference more advanced and modern you have to remember.
@@motogte it's Not just the hp difference. It's the delivery of the tq/power. The honda gearing from the type r is also better
My first car was the 06 xrs.. i miss that engine so so much. I have a Gt86 right now and the FA20 even with full bolt/tune on setup does not compare to the 2zz in everyday driving or street pulls...
Nobody mentions it, but the MR-S is way more comfortable than a Miata.
A LOT more room because no transmission tunnel. Lateral room is nice!
Big part of it is that the wheelbase is 8 inches longer than the Miata, despite the MR2 being 2 inches shorter overall
I plan on building one of these. And it'll be a recreation of Kai Kogashiwa's ZZW30, for all you Project D fans
There's one guy that decimate everyone in autocross with these cars they handle extremely well
I wonder what the curb weight difference is between the 2zz swapped mr-s and the lotus elise
Tamamo sticker man of culture. Car is badass what a beauty build.
Love my Celica GT-S but it would be more fun RWD with the 2ZZ
A friend of mine took the last generation Celica and did a RWD conversion powered by the Toyota 1UZ V8.
Ever drive a supercharged AW11 on the street? Put a 175mm crank pulley on and there's your torque street monster. Been a AW11 owner and enthusiast for 25 years. Still own my 1st one from April 1995 and my track AW11 . I've got myself a Spyder project as I really want to feel if they really do handle as well as they say it does. It's stripped out the moment, hopefully can get into it once I've finished mucking around with my street AW11 upgrade. I am putting a ~350hp 20v blacktop 4agte put in the spyder once I build the engine. That should boogie the chassis along very well.
MR-S still looks great, so do the Tamamo (?).
ZZW30 has a longer wheelbase than SW20 and S2000
FredaricoIsCooL interesting
Hmmm....just looked it up. That's crazy. Because the MR2 visually looks smaller than the S2000. I get it with the overhang lengths and everything but still......
Ellis Jackson Yup! And I believe it is actually shorter bumper to bumper than a NA Miata. Lol
@@FredaricoIsCooL eh....I'll still choose an S2K over Miata lol.
Ellis Jackson totally. Although I want to K swap a ZZW30. So it would be about 500 pounds lighter than an s2000, and have more power (if you do it right)
in the early 2000's blitz made a supercharger kit for this motor guaranteed 300hp.
Dude looks way better than the lotus for sure!
Some front end aero would help with the understeer problem if you do it right
Joel Frantz this car doesn’t have a under steer issue, actually rwd usually don’t
Nice video....I did the 2zz swap on my MR2/S. Upgraded to 6spd and Toyota LSD, but still miss my Gen-II Turbo (1993 M.Y.) It had more room and was sexy vs cute.
P-Chi
My buddy has a black one. He's got the same swap from an actual Elise donor and turbo'd it. It only makes 327whp. But in 2200lbs, that's quick. Eats my tuned fk8 up.
Sweet ride, sounds great!!! 2zz all day
I have my 2002 2zz MRS for sale on FB Marketplace. It's pretty much stock outside the engine. I'm moving and need to sell but videos like this one make it really difficult. I've listed it for 10k and the highest offer so far is 9500. I'll probably be kicking myself later for selling it.
The more I look at this car the more I want one.
Hey man, just a heads up the ZZW30 actually has a longer wheelbase than the SW20 does
Now I just want to try the gt-s Celica.
Back seats and a real trunk for cheap because they never got the love.
Wondering how they made the AWD rally model we never got?
Is it related to the AWD Toyota van?
Just swap in the Prius drive for the back wheels and put the batteries in the trunk.
For less than the zz swapped Mr I could have an AWD hybrid design rally car.
Well maybe not less but close.
Drinking game.
Every time you hear Track Car.
Nice ride !!! That motor is a gem 💎
To what other car can the 2zz swap be compare in acceleration ??
the MR2 spyder has a really long wheelbase in a SHORT car. You kinda mislabeled it in this video. It's a lot longer than an SW20 which is why it does not snap oversteer. it's very stable. The only reason the car appears shorter is because there's no trunk anymore. they chopped off all that rear overhang and added it to the middle between the wheel (which is what your cargo space behind the seat became)
Mine is a scraggly stock 1zz but still turns heads too :)
did not know zzw30 was cable throttle
that is very compelling, cable throttle is severely underrated in how it enhances driving enjoyment
It went to DBW in 02 I think
Called the roadster in the uk and comes with a lsd. The 2zz is common and high revving and shit as a daily. For a track 2zz. The better option is a k swap all day long. And as for why no 2zz from stock it was down to lotus and Toyota as my old boss was responsible for the project in the uk he was at Toyota for 30 years. What you have i a lotus with a Toyota badge. Round a track a stock 1zz in good hands I have seen destroy much higher hp cars. Including mr2 turbo. A kswap car in good hands is nothing short of amazing.
budget lotus Elis is the Toyota Celica .... it is with the 2zz motor and it handles very well and .... is way cheaper than anything :)
Front engine front wheel drive car. Not comparable in any way.
Bro youre wayyyyyy the fuck off with that comparison 😂😂 a celica!? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Yeah but the drive wheels are in the wrong spot. Front wheels have to turn in, brake, and deliver power? I'll see you in my rearview.
@@gbrav24 There is nothing like a wrong wheel drive... depends on the driver`s skills and what you want from the car... And I bet you will not see me in your rear mirror whit a 300 hp RWD diesel you will see only smoke in front of you, if you are not driving a 450+hp petrol car. :)
That glorious sound.
just needs a supercharger on it now, like the Elise S . if i get another Aw11 i'll do the 2zz with The Eaton m90 i have spare.
Ik vind dit toch een waanzinnige mooi model. Mooier dan zelfs vele supercars.
doing a 2zz swap in the next week. love your car! get rid of the wing! Snap over steer watch out!
Great job. May what's the suspension system you are using on your MR-S ? Thanks
Mrs was Toyota’s last great achievement. The ae86 is an awesome car but it’s a Subaru engine. The Supra is a bmw.
Makes sense 👍🏻 well done 💞
I love this platform!!!
I know the 2zzge was used in the lotus but that engine has a Yamaha head and a higher rev limite, also unless the engine is built, you never bounce off tev limiter as the 2zz is well known for spinning bearings because the oil pump can't keep up with the engine causing a oil Starve. But yeah, great car and very good engine but I'm more for the 4age 20v more. The 2zz is lighter with 180hp and is has vvt with lift but you have to try and behave yourself with it.
Very good looking and functional machine. Makes all the right Toyota NA sounds :D Definitely could be described as an MR-Corolla with its low weight and punchy throttle. Overall great review! Guess I had to learn the hard way that its RHD but its all good!
I love the mr2 spyder my is a 2zz swap widebody and it turns head where ever I go
anyone know what rear wing that is?
Universal wing from Battle Aero.
The US MR 2 Spyder was built in Japan as well.
Great vid thx. U Always diliver.
I know somebody that tried to do this swap by cutting the harness and and without the adapter mount. The car starts but then it runs too hot to drive anywhere
Have a 01 mr2, planning to put the new gr motor in. Wish me luck.
The last gen MR2 just looks way too funky for me, the previous gen turbo model though? Gimme.
Just bought an mrs last week and I'm very much considering doing the 2zz swap. Hsvnt even driven the car yet either lol.
Not selling the evo though :D
I like the third gen I remember when they came out I worked at Toyota I wanted one still do !
Those hard tops are so hard to find, I had almost no luck when I owned my MRS, came close to a 2ZZ swap but sold it to buy an 06 R53 mini instead.
Love your watch!
love these. Used to want one. Got an NB miata instead. 0 regrets. Don't like snap oversteer. If i had one, i would supercharge the 2zz with a widebody and call it done( of course brakes, suspension ect)
now i love my miata, but i want a supercharged brz.
Snap oversteer is drivers error that can occur in any car. The MRS is VERY controllable on the limit & easier to drive than the other 2 gens before it.
But your choice of cars are excellent handling cars as well.
Any mid-engine rwd car can have snap-oversteer. People need to quit making comments about the MR2 like it's the only car that has snap oversteer!!! And on top of that it's driver error. And it's really not like it happens on every single turn like people like to make you think that don't even own or never have owned an MR2.
@@toddk4115 yeah he probably never owned one. I feel like the SW20 should of been just a bit more staggered from factory to compensate for having the cast iron block and heavy ass exhaust manifold/ turbo setup. Would be more SW20's on the road today.
I think SW20'S came with like 14 or 15 inches wheels stock with a large profile tire.(correct me if I'm wrong)
If Toyota brings this car back like the Supra I’m taking my ND MX5 to Toyota to trade up
6:49 IM rolls up. Wish they would of put a 2zz in the IM.
Which wing is that? It look really good on the MRS
I hope this video doesnt make people buy one lol. This is a car I've been dreaming of while I was in college. I found one that I had planned to buy after returning from a trip but it was bought. 😭😭 Still looking for another one that I'll like.
The time to get them is right NOW people are starting to realise how good they are
How’s come you say the gen 2 is a better drag car if it’s heavier n I believe more prone to wheelies since it’s more prone to over steer I imagine the engine is farther back n the main reason for that? I think the mr-s is better for drag and track, but idk would love to hear your reasoning for that?
SW20 actually has more weight between the front and rear axles, so it's on very equal footing to the MRS if we're just talking about distribution. In regards to rigidity, it's also slightly ahead, being that it's not a convertible which makes up for the fact that it's also an older design which would typically be floppier than a modern equivalent (going convertible for the 3rd gen cancelled out any advancement in chassis technology, which wasn't a huge leap forward between 1989 and 1999). Ultimately where the MR2 Turbo falls flat is that it's overal geometry is inferior to the ZZW30. The front AND rear overhang is much longer and the wheelbase is almost a whole foot shorter despite the overall car being both wider AND longer. this is horrible for handling and weight shift in motion.
Despite this, the SW20 as it sits VS the MRS as it sits makes the MRS the inferior drag car. Why?? Because the MRS cannot fit tires wider than 205s without an extensive widebody kit or riding really ghetto (both of which you can't afford on a track or drag car). The package as a chassis is far too small for any significant advantage to be realized at the same scale an SW20 does. (the SW20 for all intents and purposes WAS punching above it's weight against A tier Japanese performance cars, just at the hilt of the 300ZX, NSX, GTR, EVO, RX7 etc while the MRS was a thin paper origami aimed at the Miata, barely a notch above Kei cars from a production point of view). The engine and transmissions (2zz or 1zz) aren't strong enough to handle 400+ whp is another reason. The weight penalty of the SW20 is overcompensated by the 3SGTE and E153 being SO much stronger. Iron block. closed deck. boost from factory. E153 trans being another hefty and thick strong transmission designed to handle the boost with beefy axles to boot. If the 1zz and 2zz are plastic water heaters from walmart, the 3SGTE is an iron kettle.
Now all that said, IF you have the money to force the MRS to fit 275s-305 tires with lots of grip, and swap to something other than a ZZ motor that can match or exceed the 3SGTE and E153 in performance, then you will have a faster car.