tbf unlike the other one, the Astra set will probably see play in any comp that has Quick Assist access and doesn't stun often enough to warrant running Swing Jazz
Honestly might be fun to try using astral voice for a support Burnice in a triple anomaly team. Also M0 Rina would probably be bad for astral voice but M1 and M4 might be really good with this set since you’ll be able to get your EX by the time you finish your rotation. It’ll be interesting to see whether swing jazz or astral voice will be better, especially since you can use all of your teammates ultimates. I think swing jazz will be better for disorder teams since disorder dmg is also affected by the team’s total damage when switching while astral voice is better for hyper carry comp because the buff is greater for an individual character.
Two piece broken branch is pretty good too. Just pair 2 pc broken branch with 2 piece woodpecker and whatever other 2 pc set for a good crit set bonuses for crit DPSes
@code8825 it does exist. You can run 2pc woodpecker, 2pc hormone punk, 2pc chaos metal for Zhu Yuan. 2pc woodpecker and 2pc hormone punk is the standard and the other 2 can be whatever it is you want.
With Ellen the 4 pcs Branch and Blade song set is actually very possible because the ATK% in slot 6 for Ellen is very good but the CRIT dmg of 30% is nice too and the crit rate increase is good for those that don't have her sig weapon. So I think for her, it is debatable.
@@jeanvaljean6433 those are more generalistic ones especially ZY one any ether dmg dealer can use it infuture unlike miyabis which is tailor made for her no anomaly character needs crit to deal dmg other than miyabi even if u build them it will underperform compared to atk/ap build
speculations so far is that she's an ATK scaling DPS that uses anomaly... commonly compared to Acheron, a "dot" class character but crit based DPS...so I have a feeling Miyabi's core skills will give us the AM needed to reach the minimum 115... and honestly, if you have a very good Polar Metal set, I don't see why it's not viable considering it boosts ICE dmg and basic attack, which fits her kit just fine.. it may not be her BiS, but I can't imagine it being THAT far off in terms of damage output only don't farm if you're just starting to pre-farm for Miyabi
Wait... since Lighter's passive allows him to force-change his swap into a quick assist if he has enough Morale without needing a Support unit to manually trigger it, wouldn't that kinda make a DPS Lighter build kinda doable?
Quick Assist is the one thing I don't understand in this game. Is it a parry with a follow up? Is it when an agent is knocked down/hit and you swap with the pop up?
Every agent has Quick Assist. It appears as you said, when the agent gets launched/knocked down. There are several agents however who can trigger Quick Assist with their Ex Special(Lucy, Rina, Soukaku, Nicole) or from a parry and a followup(Seth). And Burnice too in her Ultimate.
miyabi should get AM from her core skill which means fully leveled she should have about 150. even her base AM should be 116 so u can run an atk% 6. she wouldnt want to build AP at all considering it seems a lot of her strongest attacks scale off her attack and therefore her crit stats as well, so 2 piece woodpecker seems like the most obvious 2 piece to put with her 4 piece
I could farm 2 piece B&B Song for Ellen instead of 2 piece Woodpecker (both with 4 piece Polar Metal) as I'm planning to get her to m1, meaning that she'll need 12% less crit rate, so its better to swap them out now. What do you think? ❤
2 piece Astral voice totally made for Seth. He even scale with ATK plus didn't even bother energy, most of the time just quick assist to provide shield and anomaly
Lucy with Astral Voice, played with Lighter and a DPS sounds amazing. Slap Soldier 11 in there and you're good to go! Maybe this set is a hint at a limited Support near in the future, perhaps the idol group given the name of the set? :O
Can work but not as good as Yanagi and Miyabi since she still need a faster way to gain stacks which is disorder procs ( Yes Yanagi Polarity disorder counts).
For the 1st set, I'm actually thinking that Jane Doe is the closest candidate since she has crit damage in her core skill. She simply need an ice anomaly agent who works like Burnice (off-field applicator) to get the full benefit... Edit: nvm, upon further reading, her crit damage is fixed, only crit rate has scaling
Yea I made the same mistake, and even the crit rate is only raised with anomaly prof. So even crit rate discs don't help so Jane still has to rock the 2 piece Freedom blues or Chaos jazz.
Can u explain about the fix Cr dmg thingy? She could get 16% plus 30% Cr dmg from the 4 pc and those Cr dmg doesn't affect her Anomaly dmg? but only her built in Cr dmg from the core skill?
@@ptkthehumbleweeb6446 basically her assault crit damage is fixed at 50% and actually building crit damage will only affect her attacks and not any of her assault or disorder triggers. And the only way to increase the crit chance of the assault or disorder crit is you get .1% crit rate per point of AP you have up to a max of 300 which Caps out at 50% crit rate for her passive.
@@Ttjbois Oh I see, only 50% Cr dmg from core skill affect her Anomaly dmg. Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking to use new set on jane doe since I saw the leaks.
A rather bad precedent. What is the point of farming when you get 14 crit rolls for free ? Just pull a new character, empower her with a new set and enjoy the damage. Most mindscapes are not that strong. It makes you question if it is even worth to vertically invest into anything. Entry level Miyabi will directly crush moderately invested Ellen.
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RIP to all the miyabros who farmed Polar Metal discs
It's always better to just hoard all the golden discs you can and then commit to a disk type.
We can at least use some for the two piece effect
still was the best option to prepare for her while waiting for new set plus freedom blues is also good
I farmed everything but the disks. The leaks are always 85% true afterall.
@@Potatorow yeah but 2 piece woodpecker will outperform
Astra Yao also having a set just for her was not on my bingo card but I'll take it.
i just saw that the disk is called Astral Voice lol
tbf unlike the other one, the Astra set will probably see play in any comp that has Quick Assist access and doesn't stun often enough to warrant running Swing Jazz
Ooooooohhhh from the Astra set we can now say that Astra Yao will be the next drip market character, specializing in quick assist support
Soldier 11 will improve MASSIVELY from Miyabi's 2-piece
got her while trying to get lighter, it's 4pc fire and 2pc miyabi set? while waiting for this piece 2pc woodpecker?
@andysabur4966 yeah that's a good start. If you're waiting for Miyabi's 2-piece I suggest you lock in the crit.rate inferno metal on slot 4
Honestly might be fun to try using astral voice for a support Burnice in a triple anomaly team. Also M0 Rina would probably be bad for astral voice but M1 and M4 might be really good with this set since you’ll be able to get your EX by the time you finish your rotation. It’ll be interesting to see whether swing jazz or astral voice will be better, especially since you can use all of your teammates ultimates. I think swing jazz will be better for disorder teams since disorder dmg is also affected by the team’s total damage when switching while astral voice is better for hyper carry comp because the buff is greater for an individual character.
Two piece broken branch is pretty good too. Just pair 2 pc broken branch with 2 piece woodpecker and whatever other 2 pc set for a good crit set bonuses for crit DPSes
2/2/2 builds are practically non existent right now, it would be really cool to have some varied builds instead of the standard 4/2
@code8825 LET ME LIVE MY DELUSIONS😭 (no hate cuz fr people mostly use 4/2 sets)
@code8825 it does exist. You can run 2pc woodpecker, 2pc hormone punk, 2pc chaos metal for Zhu Yuan. 2pc woodpecker and 2pc hormone punk is the standard and the other 2 can be whatever it is you want.
@@code8825 yeah ive tried some 3 sets of 2s numerous times, and 4/2 pcs always outperforms them even if the stats and bonuses are higher
With Ellen the 4 pcs Branch and Blade song set is actually very possible because the ATK% in slot 6 for Ellen is very good but the CRIT dmg of 30% is nice too and the crit rate increase is good for those that don't have her sig weapon. So I think for her, it is debatable.
if you run her with brimstone and are starving for critstats but not for atk it might be worth it ig
Miyabi having her own disc set designed around her shows what a Queen she is, but also.. now got to save my batteries for the disc grinds
Huh? polar metal was made for ellen,chaotic metal was made for ZY,etc..
@@jeanvaljean6433 those are more generalistic ones especially ZY one any ether dmg dealer can use it infuture unlike miyabis which is tailor made for her no anomaly character needs crit to deal dmg other than miyabi even if u build them it will underperform compared to atk/ap build
@@enryu7886 Polar buffs ice and normal attacks lol
The 2 piece effect is great for other characters too.
yeah and any future ice can use the set. Like dos soukaku using the set.@@jeanvaljean6433
speculations so far is that she's an ATK scaling DPS that uses anomaly... commonly compared to Acheron, a "dot" class character but crit based DPS...so I have a feeling Miyabi's core skills will give us the AM needed to reach the minimum 115...
and honestly, if you have a very good Polar Metal set, I don't see why it's not viable considering it boosts ICE dmg and basic attack, which fits her kit just fine.. it may not be her BiS, but I can't imagine it being THAT far off in terms of damage output
only don't farm if you're just starting to pre-farm for Miyabi
Wait... since Lighter's passive allows him to force-change his swap into a quick assist if he has enough Morale without needing a Support unit to manually trigger it, wouldn't that kinda make a DPS Lighter build kinda doable?
Quick Assist is the one thing I don't understand in this game. Is it a parry with a follow up? Is it when an agent is knocked down/hit and you swap with the pop up?
Every agent has Quick Assist. It appears as you said, when the agent gets launched/knocked down. There are several agents however who can trigger Quick Assist with their Ex Special(Lucy, Rina, Soukaku, Nicole) or from a parry and a followup(Seth). And Burnice too in her Ultimate.
miyabi should get AM from her core skill which means fully leveled she should have about 150. even her base AM should be 116 so u can run an atk% 6. she wouldnt want to build AP at all considering it seems a lot of her strongest attacks scale off her attack and therefore her crit stats as well, so 2 piece woodpecker seems like the most obvious 2 piece to put with her 4 piece
just hoping that the limited support will aid a new meta and not the anomaly one
I could farm 2 piece B&B Song for Ellen instead of 2 piece Woodpecker (both with 4 piece Polar Metal) as I'm planning to get her to m1, meaning that she'll need 12% less crit rate, so its better to swap them out now.
What do you think? ❤
Sounds great.
Astra Yao could be the first S - Rank Limited Support Agent
2 piece Astral voice totally made for Seth. He even scale with ATK plus didn't even bother energy, most of the time just quick assist to provide shield and anomaly
Astral Voice is tailor for "specific" agent to buff "specific" agent
Not really, it's also a generic support set but will find great use with a specific agent later
Wait. are we talking about lighter or Sokaku?
@@S0UPIE We’re talking about a specific agent that has appeared in the game already secretly, which will likely be introduced next patch.
@@S0UPIE char in lore, likely linked to some side content and shown up in environment already
So, Disc 4 and 6 for Miyabi are Crit rate and AM. But since Miyabi at level 60 already has AM 116, should disc 6 be atk% instead?
Lucy with Astral Voice, played with Lighter and a DPS sounds amazing. Slap Soldier 11 in there and you're good to go!
Maybe this set is a hint at a limited Support near in the future, perhaps the idol group given the name of the set? :O
considering Astra Yao it's almost certainly saying astra in 1.5 or 1.6 before 2.0
mm i have seen shiyu runs where they dont wait to the assist button (nicholes and lucy's) so i don't know if the value of the astra set is good
i want Disc Drive substats rerolls like Star Rail 3.0
So do we actually need lighter in miyabi team?
It increases her Ice damage by 75% or something
@ what about comparing with a full section 6 team and relevant buffs
No
Can work but not as good as Yanagi and Miyabi since she still need a faster way to gain stacks which is disorder procs ( Yes Yanagi Polarity disorder counts).
@@SplittedCorn great. Lucky I have not pulled lighter and gave him a miss
astra yao confirmed
Crit damage for anomaly character???
If i can't get Miyabi's weapon i'll build her with full AP for my Yanagi's disorder team.
Thank you
Miyabi Sig disk drive!!
For the 1st set, I'm actually thinking that Jane Doe is the closest candidate since she has crit damage in her core skill. She simply need an ice anomaly agent who works like Burnice (off-field applicator) to get the full benefit...
Edit: nvm, upon further reading, her crit damage is fixed, only crit rate has scaling
Yea I made the same mistake, and even the crit rate is only raised with anomaly prof. So even crit rate discs don't help so Jane still has to rock the 2 piece Freedom blues or Chaos jazz.
Can u explain about the fix Cr dmg thingy? She could get 16% plus 30% Cr dmg from the 4 pc and those Cr dmg doesn't affect her Anomaly dmg? but only her built in Cr dmg from the core skill?
@@ptkthehumbleweeb6446 basically her assault crit damage is fixed at 50% and actually building crit damage will only affect her attacks and not any of her assault or disorder triggers. And the only way to increase the crit chance of the assault or disorder crit is you get .1% crit rate per point of AP you have up to a max of 300 which Caps out at 50% crit rate for her passive.
@@Ttjbois Oh I see, only 50% Cr dmg from core skill affect her Anomaly dmg. Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking to use new set on jane doe since I saw the leaks.
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A rather bad precedent. What is the point of farming when you get 14 crit rolls for free ? Just pull a new character, empower her with a new set and enjoy the damage. Most mindscapes are not that strong. It makes you question if it is even worth to vertically invest into anything. Entry level Miyabi will directly crush moderately invested Ellen.
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