Dart Maths Made Easy

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  • @wiganer9912
    @wiganer9912 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Do not think of a treble as a treble, for example, do not think of treble 18 as treble 18 but instead think of it as 54, once you have learned this the maths starts to get a bit easier. For example you have a finish of 81, think of it as 57+24 rather than treble 19 double 12 you will learn the finishes quicker doing it this way, and if you add 60 to 81 you now also know the finish for 141 as well as 81.

  • @misfit2022
    @misfit2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Own voice - I do much more complicated maths in my day to day yet struggle with the basics. I know as I used to play darts and the words your turn to score filled me with dread, especially after a few drinks 🥴

  • @giffy__
    @giffy__ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a helpful video - I have always struggled with subtraction, especially so when involving odd numbers; your recommendation of rounding up is a far more approachable method for my brain than anything else I've tried. Thank you!!

  • @johnescobar1520
    @johnescobar1520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the simplest form of all the tutorial..salute to the uploader

  • @vinallen5827
    @vinallen5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best info I've found to deal with training myself to add and subtract at darts. Thanks heaps.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pleased to hear that you're finding it helpful. The more you practice the easier it gets.

  • @chrisbare4547
    @chrisbare4547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please go back to the original. So much more enthusiasm. Happy to see a new video. Hope to see more in the near future. Helped me so much. I go back and watch them regularly. Thanks

    • @10mins
      @10mins  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback. Seems the experiment with the voiceover wasn't a success, so I won't be using it again. I've got another video in the pipeline. It should be ready in a few days. Stay tuned.

  • @blackie75
    @blackie75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer just doing it traditionally if I'm writing it down, but in your head this is quite simple and effective. Cheers

  • @emilioseyer819
    @emilioseyer819 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amazon customer service rep for returns 🤣🤣🤣 lol!. I've made a few returns myself. Nice to hear you again!

  • @marthao5799
    @marthao5799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can also add the 10s first, then add the single digits
    (60+54+25>6+5+2=13(0) and 9=139

  • @glens1800
    @glens1800 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I shall really try this method from now on

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope it works for you. Stick with it.

    • @glens1800
      @glens1800 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@10mins I shall try. My maths is terrible lol but my throw is good 👍🏻

  • @xred54
    @xred54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tricked me with 388 instead of 368! But your rules worked to find the error. Nice video.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes... Sorry about the 388/386 mistake. I check this kind of thing multiple times before I publish, yet errors still manage to slip through the next. :(

  • @rijack64
    @rijack64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I find rounding too time consuming, but that is me. I do the maths left to right, automatically accounting for borrowing or carrying. 501 - 85 for instance : 49 - 8 = 41, 1 - 5 (11 - 5) is 6. 416.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess we're all different. I think the lesson is to find a method that works for you. I suspect many of the people who struggle with dart maths are simply not aware of the types of short cut I describe in the video and you describe in your comment.

    • @tonyc7090
      @tonyc7090 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats exactly how I've been doing it since grade school. Way easier and quicker!

  • @Its_A_London_Thing
    @Its_A_London_Thing ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously, seriously helpful video. I have Dyscalculia and I try to use the rounding up method too. I struggle massively with odd numbers, numbers in general, and even simple maths - it just frazzles my head. This video helped me a bit more with understanding how to do it slightly more quickly than I'm able to now.
    I've also screenshotted the image of the dartboard with the values on them, printed it out on photo paper, and have stuck it on the wall next to my board.
    I will have flick through your channel to see if you have more videos like this one - hopefully with you speaking in your normal voice! 😂
    Cheers mate.
    🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dyscalculia must make scoring a darts game a very real challenge, so I'm pleased to hear you found my video useful.
      I've been playing darts for a long time. The same combinations occur frequently, and in many cases I don't need to "do the maths", I just know the answer. For example, I don't need to calculate 501 - 85, I know the answer is 416 because I've seen it so many times. Likewise, with most of the likely opening shots... 501 - 26, 401 - 45, etc. Many 3-dart combinations are also ingrained because I see them so often. The same with outshot combinations. So, my point is: you can avoid doing some of the maths by memorizing answers to frequently occurring scenarios.
      I do have several other videos about darts. You'll also find some on other topics such as Microsoft Excel and Visio. In hindsight, I should have created two separate channels, but I was lazy.
      The robot voice thing was not a wise move. When I began recording the narrative for that video, my microphone stopped working. I ordered a new one and should have waited until it arrived. However, I was impatient and used the robot voice software simply because it was there, ready to use. Lesson learnt!
      Cheers.

  • @rijack64
    @rijack64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it easier to not use rounding. It's an extra step. It may be automatic for some, but so is what I do. With addition, if the second digit's sum is >= 10, just add 1 to one of the first numbers. If you're familiar with how it works, you can just 'know' what the last digit will be. Say the first two darts are 60 and 15. You know that is 75. Third dart is 57. 5 + 7 is greater than 10, so add 1 to one of the first digits. i.e. 7 and 6.... You know that 7 + 6 = 13 and 7 + 5 ends with 2, so you have 132. Note: The 5 + 7 refers to the 75 and 57, not the digits of 57. I could've used different numbers for the example, but didn't feel like rewriting it.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have a method that works for you, then stick with it by all means. My video is aimed at people who struggle with it. Everyone learns differently, and what works for one person may not work for another. I merely offer my way of doing things as one possibility.

  • @ruffriki3264
    @ruffriki3264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank u so damn much and I’m not even done watching this video!

  • @bobbymalta73
    @bobbymalta73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thks for sharing i do not add and subtract fast that's why i did not make courige to play this game,if you have more videos please share them with us,
    like you sad the more you practice the more you learn.

  • @alextaylor3015
    @alextaylor3015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you've probably got many better things to do with your time than do what I'm about to suggest, but it would be brilliant to have this video re-recorded with your own voice taking us through it. There's really great stuff here to think about but I don't revisit this video like your others because of the AI voice which drives me mad! So - just a suggestion and of course, nobody will be angry if you choose not to!! Looking forward to your next vid, regardless.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your kind feedback. I do regret releasing this with the robot voice. My audio recording equipment broke while I was making the video. Rather than wait for my new microphone to arrive, I thought I'd try out the robot voice software, which I'd recently acquired. I admit now that it was a mistake. I should have waited so I could use my own voice.
      I will consider re-releasing it with my own voice. It has proved to be my most popular video by far, currently getting about 2,000 views per day, so I wish I'd gotten it right first time.
      I'm heartened by the many positive comments I've received and glad that I have been able to help some people to tackle dart maths with more confidence.

  • @robchandler755
    @robchandler755 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As Russ would say, "OOOOOOOOONE HUNDRED and EIGHTY".

  • @Barbarian1956
    @Barbarian1956 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Go with your natural voice, it ads a personal touch to your video's

  • @Nokka10
    @Nokka10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid thanks

  • @MilesD.C
    @MilesD.C 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos about dart 🎯🐺

  • @louisrobertsonjr.2488
    @louisrobertsonjr.2488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FYI: Triple and treble mean the same thing

    • @10mins
      @10mins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct. Different words with the same meaning. "Treble" is the traditional term used in darts and I try to use it in my videos, but either word works.

  • @pblacklock
    @pblacklock 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Or I’ll just keep a calculator handy and put up with the hell.

  • @jinjunmei
    @jinjunmei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this, until I started playing darts, I never realized how bad my mental math was.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many people struggle with the math. I'm fortunate because I find mental arithmetic easy to do, but I know it doesn't come easy to the majority of people. The more you do it, the better you'll get at it. (Hopefully!)

  • @kylepark4847
    @kylepark4847 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I know the board I just not great at adding my scores togeather

    • @10mins
      @10mins  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Try memorizing some likely combinations so that, instead of adding up each time, you just know what it is. In fact, I'm sure you already do that with some combinations. For example, if you hit three single 20s, you probably just know that it's 60 without adding. Right?
      Start by trying to memorize possible combinations in and around the big numbers. Work on 20 first then move on to 19, and 18.
      For example, when shooting at the 20 segment
      20 20 20 = 60
      20 20 T20 = 100
      20 T20 T20 = 140
      T20 T20 T20 = 180
      20 5 5 = 30
      20 5 T5 = 40
      20 T5 T5 = 50
      20 5 1 = 26
      20 5 T1 = 28
      And so on. You get the idea.
      Once you've got 20 down pat, do the same around the nineteen segment. Eventually you'll get most of these combinations locked into your memory and you'll only have to do addition when you hit something outside these sets.

  • @DuncYo
    @DuncYo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic thanks!

  • @francoamerican4632
    @francoamerican4632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I learned from this video is that "maths" is the new plural for "math". IMO the English language needs a major overhaul (or should I say, it needs overhauled).

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The full word is mathematics - plural - so it seemed reasonable that we should shorten it to maths. It wasn't until I moved to America that I discovered the use of math - singular. Two peoples separated by a common language, as Churchill supposedly said. 🙂

    • @russellfrancis6294
      @russellfrancis6294 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s always maths here in Britain, eg. Maths class. Maths test.

  • @airtoleary7786
    @airtoleary7786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Change the vocal please.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will not be using the voiceover thing again. Back to my own voice in future.

    • @russellfrancis6294
      @russellfrancis6294 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn't all that bad. I don't think anyway.

  • @omeraktash
    @omeraktash 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the third dart on T20 00:26 doesn't touch the others but sounds like it's done! :) great content though :D

  • @meanstreak2549
    @meanstreak2549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @6:54 you took a wrong number. You took 388 - 89 instead of 368 - 89. Result is 279 instead of 299.
    I was counting in my head and couldn't believe I was so far off. ;-)

    • @10mins
      @10mins  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oops! You are correct. That is a mistake. Thank you for being so observant. It's so difficult to catch all of ones own mistakes.
      I wish there was a way to update the video with a correction, but the only option I'm aware of is to upload a new video and delete the old one, which messes with anyone who has saved the link to the old one.

  • @Grandi74
    @Grandi74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you should go back to your original voice. It’s more interesting and engaging. I found the new voiceover a bit dull and robotic. Thank you for this video I still struggle with counting after several years. 👍🎯

    • @10mins
      @10mins  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback. I was thinking the same thing about the voice.

    • @garywyn
      @garywyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@10mins
      Agree with the voice, dull i’m afraid. You’re other videos make you sound like a very wise man indeed. Thank you for your videos. Got stupid Dartitis so a video on that would be very much appreciated

    • @10mins
      @10mins  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garywyn Thanks for the feedback. I'll be sticking with my normal voice from now on. I'm happy to hear that I sound like a wise man, I wish I was. Regarding dartitis, I know very little about it. I know it's very real and I have had a couple of friends who were badly affected by it. I vaguely recall reading some suggestions about trying to break the feedback loop that causes the affliction. It involved doing something radically different like wearing a glove to throw, or taping some of your fingers together. Something that gives your brain different things to thing about while you throw in the hope that it will reset and you can then ditch the gloves or the tape or whatever. But, I have no idea if it's effective.

  • @maruimegane
    @maruimegane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    すごい、いい動画。
    いままで、だいたいでやっていたインド式計算を明文化。
    日本語で、ごめんなさい。

    • @10mins
      @10mins  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google translate came to my rescue. 🙂I'm happy that you found the video useful.

  • @cohowtekk
    @cohowtekk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Isn't actually rounding the 501 to 500 at the start and then just add 1 easier? Feels easier to me.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If that's what works for you, do it that way. I can't say that one method is definitively easier than another because it all depends on the individual. What some find easy, others find hard and vice versa. If you read through the many comments on this post, you'll see that some people think what I'm explaining is ridiculously complicated, and other people say it has helped them a lot. Everyone is different.

  • @richardwentland7729
    @richardwentland7729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info

  • @svenkrevet4638
    @svenkrevet4638 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im too drunk for this right now

  • @MarvinDSancho2011
    @MarvinDSancho2011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    use your voice ... that generated voice is annoying but great content .

    • @10mins
      @10mins  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your feedback. I have it on my "To Do" list to re-release this video with my own voice.

  • @deanwright9167
    @deanwright9167 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can't always count on numbers

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed, but you can only count WITH numbers.

  • @nurby1824
    @nurby1824 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The key to getting better is not watch this over complicated video.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😄Each to their own nurby1824. Thank you for your opinion. The methods used are in fact quite simple, but to describe them in this format does get a bit longwinded. If you have a simpler way of doing things, please share it with us.

    • @Dad-Gad
      @Dad-Gad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How can showing you what the numbers actually are , be complicated ??? You silly goose.

    • @techtipsuk
      @techtipsuk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nurby you’re talking bollocks.

    • @owengunter506
      @owengunter506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nurby1824, enlighten us with your simpler method... i won't be holding my breath. so easy to criticise when you don't have anything better to say

    • @nurby1824
      @nurby1824 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@owengunter506 just learn math simple.

  • @batawabatakagan1875
    @batawabatakagan1875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @sofabiru6852
    @sofabiru6852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🐝

  • @jon4483
    @jon4483 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I notice in your video that your running total is counting up toward 501. I don't know if it's another colloquialism like Math vs Maths, but I have always seen the running total count down from 501 here in the States. Either way the difficulty I have alway run into is calculating my outs at the end in order to plan my next shot. Like I know if I have 80, then 2 D-20's will end it. But if I miss and hit a 5, I now have 75 and have to rack my brain on how to do that in 2 darts, and if I miss my new target on the second dart, again with the last. Obviously this is easier with lower numbers but more difficult with higher ones because after adding I must now subtract from my current total and keep that running total in my head while breaking everthing down. Any tips?
    I was looking for a diagram like you provided when I found this video. Otherwise I was going to make my own so thanks for that.
    Good darts 🤜🤛

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, my running total does not count upwards towards 501. When chalking a game, the score keeper has to add up the total scored, write it down, and then subtract it from the running score. So, at around the 6:10 mark, you'll see I've added up 60 + 15 + 57 for a total of 133 and then subtracted it to get a running count of 368.
      I have several other videos that cover the question you asked about getting to an out. If you're subscribed to my channel, look for my "Darts Tactics" videos.
      Also check out the site I've link below for my suggested 3-dart and 2-dart checkout tables. Use the 2-dart checkout table if the first of your three darts does not hit the intended target, or if it bounces out. For example, if your target is 102, you might try T20 S10 D16 (60, 10, 32), but if you hit a single 20 with your first dart, you've got 82 remaining. The 2-dart chart recommends T14 D20 (42, 40). Try to memorize as much as possible. The more you play, the more you'll find that some numbers seem to crop up more than others. Start by trying to memorize the ones you see most often.
      Your example, in which you are left with 75 after your first dart, occurs a lot. My preferred route is T17 D12 (51, 24). I don't have to stop and think, I have that one memorized.
      sites.google.com/view/tenminutesofyourtime/home

  • @pillwolak
    @pillwolak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot the outer green circle which is 25

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The green part of the bull is, to my way of thinking, a single bull, and you'll see that I have not labelled any of the other single segments either. My diagram shows the value of each segment of the board that requires multiplication, with the intention being: "memorize the value and you no longer need to do the multiplication every time". The double bull is 2 x 25, so I show the value 50.

    • @AznInvasion85
      @AznInvasion85 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i mean he did have an example of 25 when he hit the 25 😊

  • @ioane3718
    @ioane3718 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is 20x3???🤔

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmmm! That's a tough one.

  • @tonyc7090
    @tonyc7090 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Method is too long and complicated. I just add normally, way quicker

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's complicated to explain in video format, but exceedingly simple to apply in practice. If you find that adding "normally" works for you, then stick with your method. However, what's "normal" for you may not be normal for others.
      It's undeniably clear that many people have trouble performing simple additions and subtractions in their head. This video is aimed at those people and offers some suggestions that might help them.
      If your school days were anything like mine, we were taught to do arithmetic on paper with all the "carry one" mechanics that involves. This method does not work well when you're trying to do it in your head. We were never taught how to do "mental arithmetic". I had to learn the tricks to that by myself.

  • @vinallen5827
    @vinallen5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful video. Use your own voice as long as you speak clear English.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I learned my lesson. Own voice from now on.

  • @radovanzauska4552
    @radovanzauska4552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me its better with 501 - 140 round 200 301 +60 for me work better also 180 200 round +20 GD

    • @10mins
      @10mins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It sounds like you've got a method that works for you, and that is kind of what I'm getting at. Subtract a nice, easy round number then add back in the difference.

  • @clarkey1977
    @clarkey1977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nope, I still can't subtract

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว

      🙂 Oh well! At least you tried.

  • @andrewchalke1751
    @andrewchalke1751 ปีที่แล้ว

    How complicated that is,

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว

      Complicated to describe in a video, but very easy to apply in practice. I've had a lot of success helping some of the people I regularly play with. However, not everyone gets it because we all learn differently. Some people might find suggestions made by other people in the many posts on this video to be more helpful for them. The unfortunate few might always struggle with maths, no matter what method they attempt. If you have something that works for you, stick with it.

  • @JedBrad55
    @JedBrad55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, how to complicate things.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your input. If you read through all the comments on this thread, you'll see that many people find my suggestions to be a very useful, and others, just like you, think it's complicated. It's actually not complicated once you start using it, but each to their own. We all think differently and what works for one does not necessarily work for another. If you find this complicated then it's not for you, simple as that. Perhaps you have a less complicated way of doing arithmetic in your head. If so, please share.

  • @dionpilkington6111
    @dionpilkington6111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You marked the bullseye as 50.....only the double bull is 50, the single bull is 25

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are correct, but you'll notice that I have only marked the values of the doubles and trebles. So, the single bull, just like all the other single segments, is not marked.

    • @BillyCasper1976
      @BillyCasper1976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What??

  • @behemoth-lg9yr
    @behemoth-lg9yr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just suck at math.peroid 😝

  • @enbrunoise
    @enbrunoise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Own voice please.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I learned my lesson. No more artificial voice.

  • @deeddude
    @deeddude 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is noone going to point out that 368 - 89 does not = 299? LOL
    Ten minutes of my time I will never get back...

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "noone" is perfect (see what I did there?). It's a typo - an embarassing one, but despite the robot voice, I am only human. It's surprisingly hard to spot ones own mistakes. I believe others have already pointed out the error in early comments. Thank you for your feedback.

    • @deeddude
      @deeddude 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@10mins That's fair enough, I understand where you're coming from. It just confused and amused me honestly. I apologise for sounding inconsiderate or crass, I only meant my comment in jest. Good luck in your future content creation.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No worries. No apology necessary. I always welcome feedback.

  • @jayidleman4420
    @jayidleman4420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First! LOL!

  • @my_key
    @my_key ปีที่แล้ว

    Better to use your own voice for video's. The tts voices sound less natural.

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, lesson learned. No more robot voice.

    • @squaretops1
      @squaretops1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I LIKED THE ROBOT@@10mins

  • @ilkoconsult
    @ilkoconsult 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Substract speacelou a d add you voice
    Please

  • @cucubits
    @cucubits ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is unnecessarily complicating simple math

    • @10mins
      @10mins  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I respectfully disagree with you and suggest that perhaps you've missed my point, which is that we all learn differently. Yes, the arithmetic required to add or subtract two numbers should be simple. It appears you have a method that works for you, so you don't need anything I've suggested. In fact, right at the start of the video I specifically say that the video is aimed only at people looking for a solution to their math woes.
      It's undeniable that many people struggle with the math or can't do it at the pace required when scoring a darts game. The approach I suggest is NOT complicated. I could explain it in a few seconds if we were face-to-face with a whiteboard at hand but explaining it in this video format required me to be a little long-winded. So yes, at first pass it might sound fiddly, but if you try it, it's actually quite simple. For example: 174 - 85 = 174 - 100 + 15 = 89. I find that to be a no brainer, but I accept that it may not work for everyone.
      If you read through the many comments on this video, you'll find that some people like the method I suggest, and others propose alternative methods (some of which sound complicated to me, but which they find easy). For those who struggle, I say, keep trying different things until you find an approach that works for you work for you.
      Finally, you use the term "simple math", so I assume that you don't have trouble scorekeeping. Perhaps you'd care to share your approach. Try explaining the process you step through to add and subtract in your head. Readers of this post might find it suits them better than my method.