The KPOP idol who faked her ENTIRE identity...

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  • Hey guys, I'm back with a long video! Today, we will be covering on of kpop's strangest controversies, the story of Lee Gai. Lee Gai was an idol who managed to join Baby V.O.X (one of the top first generation Kpop girl groups) as their newest member in 1998. That was... until fans discovered the shocking truth about her real age, identity and history. As it turns out, not only was she 10 years older than her supposed age, she had also already been in the industry for almost a decade AND had debuted over 3 times prior to joining BabyVOX! So how and why did she fool the entire nation, and how did she get exposed? Keep watching to find out!
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    - Midnight Theories: • Forced To Lie About He... (She goes more in depth into the history of dance troupes like Setorae)
    - Weekly Weird Kpop: • The 20 Year Old Kpop I... (I actually found out about this whole story thanks to this video!)
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  • @ploopy678
    @ploopy678  ปีที่แล้ว +832

    Hey guys I'm back! Well... to be precise I have actually been posting tons of dance videos on TH-cam shorts recently (be sure to check them out if you haven't already 💕), but I'm finally back with a long video! It has been ages but trust me... this story is worth the wait!
    Thanks to Kloot Box for sponsoring this video! Shop your KPOP subscription box at: www.klootbox.com?aff=270​ (Use Code PLOOPY678 for 5% off!) | instagram.com/klootbox
    Also wanted to give a shoutout to other awesome videos about Lee Gai:
    - Midnight Theories: th-cam.com/video/4tCm9-WmHKQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MidnightTheories (She goes more in depth into the history of dance troupes like Setorae)
    - Weekly Weird Kpop: th-cam.com/video/UZToh16EqWg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WeeklyWeirdKpop (I actually found out about this whole story thanks to this video!)

    • @brandoniswhoiam
      @brandoniswhoiam ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’m ready for part 3 of the Rania/BP Rania/BLACKSWAN saga!

    • @Hearin424
      @Hearin424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m so happy your back!!

    • @OriginalGrasshopper
      @OriginalGrasshopper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome back Ploopy!

    • @Mr-pn2eh
      @Mr-pn2eh ปีที่แล้ว

      Meep Meep

    • @carwyn1763
      @carwyn1763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am so happy to hear another story from DR Music the saga

  • @hzzn
    @hzzn ปีที่แล้ว +6358

    It's not like Lee Gai was even youthful looking for a 30 year old. They should have simply said she was 25 and ran with it. To say she was 20 and put her next to 16 year olds was just downright begging to be busted.

    • @siohunndai
      @siohunndai ปีที่แล้ว +340

      absolutely, people can be deceived but the public isn't stupid.

    • @Bom13
      @Bom13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came here to write this. They were so, so stupid

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yeah 22 at minimum.

    • @Bom13
      @Bom13 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      @@nakynaki she looked way older than 22 though 😅. That company has a long track record of making the worst decisions

    • @kim_2aeong
      @kim_2aeong ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@nakynaki omg hi wav!

  • @Rjc2k2
    @Rjc2k2 ปีที่แล้ว +6757

    I think the biggest villain here is the company. How long did they think they could keep passing a 30 year old as a 20 year old with sunglasses and makeup for? The whole 7 year contract they were gonna do that? They knew that eventually the jig would be up and they CERTAINLY knew that the public would tear that poor girl apart.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz ปีที่แล้ว +247

      They probably didn't expect the group to last 3 years. Cash in and cash out.

    • @therealgrimreaper68
      @therealgrimreaper68 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      People don't get wrinkles at 37-38 anyways, she could pass for being younger with the right skin care routine

    • @Octobris
      @Octobris ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Woman

    • @JustGotALife
      @JustGotALife ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Biggest villain here is korean public who bashed her first group for just appearing in a dance collab with boy group. How fked up in the head they have to be to do this to someone who was just entertaining them.

    • @xhiwhee
      @xhiwhee ปีที่แล้ว +185

      ​@@therealgrimreaper68 also I think if they gave her a different hairstyle she could also look younger !! The short hair didn't suit her

  • @zacharikurbah6358
    @zacharikurbah6358 ปีที่แล้ว +2666

    Being in your 20's is not old, people need to stop saying 20's is old, this is the best age to debut as a singer

    • @tharntypesdaughter
      @tharntypesdaughter ปีที่แล้ว +299

      Ikr this is what the toxic kpop industry is, anyone in their late 20s is considered old

    • @zacharikurbah6358
      @zacharikurbah6358 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tharntypesdaughter I know, these stupid b*tches always have this mindset, look at the 1st Gen artists from 1996 to 1999, they're all in their 40's and are still active, Kahi from After School debut at 29, Park Bom and Dara debut at 25, 5/6 T-ara members debut at their 20's Jiyeon was the only teenager at that time, they're still active, artists from 3rd Generation all debut in their 20's, Blackswan all debut in their mid 20's, Youngheun also spoke up about it, they're just people chasing after their dreams, this is why minors should debut at a later age instead in their teenage years, this why I love groups who debut in their 20's

    • @lesbianslipknotfan
      @lesbianslipknotfan ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@tharntypesdaughter atp anyone who is 20 and above is old. i’ve seen it

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@lesbianslipknotfan fuck I’m old I just turned 20 a month ago. Honestly it’s sad that I’ve seen 03 and 04 liners saying they are “too old to debut” it’s like girl you just turned 18 a few months ago this should be your prime time where every company is _fighting_ just to have you sign with them. Not aging out of it. That should be for those 25 and older. Anything 23 and under is still young (that’s literally an 00 liner).

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@tharntypesdaughter not even late 20s. I saw someone calling Boynextdoor old 💀. I’m older than every member (by a tad bit) and the eldest are 19 🤡. Maknae is literally 16. What are they asking for? 12 year olds?

  • @Hannaaaa3
    @Hannaaaa3 ปีที่แล้ว +4653

    I feel really bad for Lee Gai she wanted to do this to help her sick father like most ppl wouldn’t do this

    • @PinkSoldier2009
      @PinkSoldier2009 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @hannaazam3079 - That could’ve been also an excuse.

    • @TP-zm6bo
      @TP-zm6bo ปีที่แล้ว +36

      pls it was false

    • @Danielle.-.
      @Danielle.-. ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Is she still active ?

    • @Danielle.-.
      @Danielle.-. ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @mayu 🎧 ! oh right she is 55 or something now damn

    • @kiwiipeachii8980
      @kiwiipeachii8980 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@TP-zm6bo You don't know taht

  • @kyliedee6079
    @kyliedee6079 ปีที่แล้ว +1502

    This wasn't her fault, it was the company's idea to lie about her age. She was hardworking. Hope she's living a good life.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz ปีที่แล้ว +3118

    30 is a good age for a dancer. Odds are she just wasn't trained as much in dance as others, with her speciality being vocal, piano and songwriting. They just needed a dancey group they could rush out the door and so that happened.

    • @mrjoe5292
      @mrjoe5292 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      Right? You've got world class footballers playing well into their 30s these days. 30 is within the human prime.

    • @xhiwhee
      @xhiwhee ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Also there are a lot of kpop idols near or in their 30s who can do hard, fast pasted choreographys

    • @MikaMoonlight
      @MikaMoonlight ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Yes, definitely this. I'm 28 and very often 15 year olds aren't able to keep up with ME 🤣 That's because I've been a dancer since age 6 and in constant training, that makes the difference

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But wasn’t she originally in a dancing group? Lol when she made her first debut in 1988 it was a dance group. But it was probably a different style and I guess once out of practice it could be harder and it’s always a known fact that younger people learn quicker so they probably surpassed her abilities making her look rlly rough around the edges.

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mrjoe5292 yeah I would say 27/28 is the prime and then everything after that is probably a downwards turn but the slope is slight in the first few years maybe even decade. Once at 40, it starts picking up its speed lol.

  • @nvexe8822
    @nvexe8822 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

    I feel terrible for her. Imagine facing so much ageism when you're only 30, being forced to pose as 20, and then being replaced by a 15yo by the company who put you in this situation...

    • @siim4ever
      @siim4ever 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're so wise, and still people feel the need to bash Lee Hee Jung

    • @lasciviouspaine
      @lasciviouspaine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      exactly! it's disgusting behaviour

  • @143szns
    @143szns ปีที่แล้ว +5731

    they could've said she was 25 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @ploopy678
      @ploopy678  ปีที่แล้ว +1430

      yeah, I guess they were being a bit too ambitious 😂

    • @whynot5280
      @whynot5280 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      That’s exactly what I said right before I looked in the comments

    • @Ipromiseyounobodyismad
      @Ipromiseyounobodyismad ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Or just not lie about her age at all?

    • @143szns
      @143szns ปีที่แล้ว +473

      @@Ipromiseyounobodyismad well that's an option 😂 but 25 would've been the most believable

    • @torrebrockman8900
      @torrebrockman8900 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@Ipromiseyounobodyismad the group might have fell then

  • @tellumyort
    @tellumyort ปีที่แล้ว +2612

    I probably have a Western perspective bias, but I respect Lee Gai for this. She reinvented herself 3 times, continued to work in the industry behind the scenes, and only came back to the stage when her company needed her to guide a younger group despite thematically having no business there. In American entertainment ages are always swept under the rug so I put no blame on her. Also I think the tinted glasses even indoors is a cool gimmick.

    • @dark_quEEnisCringe
      @dark_quEEnisCringe ปีที่แล้ว +194

      I agree! I don't think it's her fault. I think it's just the company who went too ambitious with her age by calling her a 20 yr old when tbh she looked 25+

    • @Omaru1982
      @Omaru1982 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Right the lead singer from E.L.O has worn sunglasses for decades, I'm not even sure I've seen his actual eyes, and I seem to remember the instrument playing half of the pet shop boys also wore glasses he never took off.

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It definitely is (the glasses) and I feel like that would’ve been pretty normal in the 90s lol. I mean at least probably in American culture lol. Then again. I wasn’t born until the 21st century so all I can judge by is vague memory of tv shows about the late 80s-early 00s.

    • @hwanhui346
      @hwanhui346 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I agree,i feel bad for the people who just try again and again and again,come back numerous times just to be flopped and unnoticed by public,it's really not fair.

    • @abnormalusername
      @abnormalusername ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes, I'm sure this is coming from a place of not caring about kpop the way hardcore fans do, but I would have viewed this as hilarious story if she was not actually removed from the group with that story of being in such dire financial situation. Like, if one of girls in a kpop group I liked lied about her age, I would view it as a little sad and... too ambitious, not a great betrayal that requires her to be fired. But I guess I have different mindset.... And also I am 30 years old.

  • @kikithepupper6774
    @kikithepupper6774 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +298

    I highly respect her.. She truly never ever gave up. She's a very strong woman who kept trying her, despite being stomped, put in failure for so many times...

    • @siim4ever
      @siim4ever 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I agree! she was so talented

    • @sleepyearth
      @sleepyearth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Word. The way she reinvent herself to debut 3 times is impressive especially during those older eras.

  • @TheErsu
    @TheErsu ปีที่แล้ว +714

    Their treatment of Lee Hee Jung is shameful. She should have been celibrated for the work she did prior to Baby Vox, not forced to hide her identity.

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I agree. They could’ve been like “we couldn’t find anyone more suitable for or lesser than Lee heejung who was our first artist and has worked very hard for her dreams. Please support her as the new member of baby vox.”

    • @acutelilmint8035
      @acutelilmint8035 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nakynakithe fact she beat other people and got into the group is already an achieve,ent.

    • @acutelilmint8035
      @acutelilmint8035 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@nakynakicause I mean look at the comments. Women are mean. The people who shame women the most are other women.
      I agree. Say she was a great personality and beat every other candidate.
      And look in kpop who are the only people that do tie after their bands kinda die? It’s the idols with very good personalities and entertainment value.
      I wish they would just drop the age obsession especially for women. U don’t find interesting people like that.

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@acutelilmint8035 well she didn’t bc she was already signed to the agency many years before. Shit was also a lot easier back then. If you had the pretty privilege or some other connections, you’d be a shoe in. Still true now but it’s a LOT harder to debut bc there’s just so much competition now.

  • @Idktoo5700
    @Idktoo5700 ปีที่แล้ว +677

    the kpop industry has always been prejudice to the older ones.. I’m lowkey mad about that because why do these companies have to debut literal 14 year olds in a group where they don’t know nothing about this world instead of mature grown ups who have been through life, and can speak for themselves. I feel bad for lee gai I hope she is well though.

    • @snooperslooth2795
      @snooperslooth2795 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      You have to blame the fans, not the industry. If there was a demand for 70 year old idols dancing in pigtails, I can guarantee you would see it, but there isn't a demand for that. The entertainment industry will cater to whatever the fans are willing to financially support.

    • @ghostofmisao.
      @ghostofmisao. ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @Snooper Slooth that's not the whole story though, every single kpop fan is not asking for children to debut, the main problem is society's obsessed with youth and believing the younger you are the more valuable/pretty you are.

    • @koemjrystal3719
      @koemjrystal3719 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@ghostofmisao.Yes, you are so right with society being hyperobsessed with youth. They are not being realistic because you're only in your teens and young adulthood for just 2 decades. We have another 60-70 years of life left, so it baffles me whenever they say a womn is over her prime years once 3 0. The ageism is sickening.

    • @staycsprinkles3777
      @staycsprinkles3777 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think it’s both. Kpop fans keep sending the wrong message by making these groups with minors popular so companies will only cater to demand.

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@snooperslooth2795 but 70 isnt even close to 30. And you can be sure that at least now, in 2023 term, there would be PLENTY of people willing to support a group of say girls aged 22-28 maybe even with an oldest member at 30. Just because there is a huge market for people aged 14-20 doesn’t mean there aren’t others who are themselves in their 20s and older who are looking for groups closer to their age and who can handle mature concepts without it being minors doing things inappropriate for their age. Look at how well mamadol was received and I would’ve loved for it to be permanent or at least last say 2-3 years. Even if the schedules were minimal due to them all being mothers. And look at who some of the most popular ggs have been in the last few years, there’s been a trend: Blackpink a 4 members aged 19-21 at debut, Aespa 4 members aged 18-20 at debut, and now fifty fifty 4 members aged 18-20 at debut. I’m sure if you take that and added a few more years say 18/19 to 23, it would probably still work out. Little by little from there, people wouldn’t even notice debuting 25 years olds bc it would be perceived as “normal”.

  • @Octobris
    @Octobris ปีที่แล้ว +809

    Dear youth: if you want to cultivate this belief that people in their 30s are old, prepare yourselves for an identity crisis in a decade.

    • @maysummers9557
      @maysummers9557 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Very well said

    • @howltae
      @howltae ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Seriously

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Literally 💀. Cause I’m turning 30 in 9 years and 11 months and umm… yeah no I’m not gunna be old. Just “aged” like a fine wine 🍷

    • @bigmax5780
      @bigmax5780 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Considering that 70 is the life of expectancy these days, 30 is still childhood 💀

    • @texasktea
      @texasktea ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I'm 32 and trust me I would never be 29 or younger again even if I had the chance.

  • @OfTheSeaKND
    @OfTheSeaKND ปีที่แล้ว +1203

    The glasses definitely aged her. She looked younger without them. What a journey her career was.

    • @lalastuffandthings
      @lalastuffandthings ปีที่แล้ว +210

      also not to mention the acctually god awful curly pigtail hairstyle, honestly with no sunglasses and with her hair just down or something imo I think she could've passed as 20

    • @mcblinglove
      @mcblinglove ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@lalastuffandthings i really love her look in the change mv, with the glasses and pigtails it really aged her!! The short hair without glasses, she could actually pass as 25. Those damn glasses are terrible tho😭

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Literally 😂

    • @internationalmusicacademy2895
      @internationalmusicacademy2895 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      !!!

    • @literallysxdraa
      @literallysxdraa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mcblinglove fr

  • @choi._.minhyunn
    @choi._.minhyunn ปีที่แล้ว +326

    I feel awful for her she just wanted her dream life with her dad and a singing career

  • @sadsadtearsofaclown859
    @sadsadtearsofaclown859 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    It’s so crazy how fans will bash any idol above 23, but are upset and outraged when companies debut 15 year olds 🙄

    • @phansaxtiger
      @phansaxtiger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not everyone can be 18 years old at the same debut time lol. They are being unrealistic

  • @tallybarnie5453
    @tallybarnie5453 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    I always knew ageism is a thing but 30s don’t even seem that old? Maybe it’s cause I’m 23 and a lot of my idols are my age or older. Seems sad that she even had to lie about her age or that it mattered that much

    • @TuberoseKisser
      @TuberoseKisser ปีที่แล้ว +47

      People wanted young idols because the industry fanbase is young, it's about relatability and unobtainability when it comes to idols.

    • @Niki_thebear
      @Niki_thebear ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Well look at Irene or solar or Jin they are much popular individually then groups like Newjeans, Ive or pre debut group Baemon
      It just shows that now Talent doesn't matter what matters is Visual it's either you're talented or not if you are in your 30
      Like Jin, Solar and Irene looks so younger than their age and beautiful for sure
      And see Chiquita is talented
      but peoples hate cuz her visual not that they're jealous.

    • @bertram5806
      @bertram5806 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think it’s the fact that she lied about her age..and she was in a group full of children. I think if she debuted with a group closer to her age maybe 20s-30s people wouldn’t care..however I admit that it’s weird to have a 30 year old women pretending to be 20..in a group full of 16 year olds.

    • @tallybarnie5453
      @tallybarnie5453 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Niki_thebear Jin, solar and Irene all look their age. 30 isn’t old

    • @hellothere7268
      @hellothere7268 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Niki_thebear ​​⁠ the ones u mentioned ARE talented tho? Also they are members of very known groups of course they are popular individually as a result of that. I agree that in kpop visuals play a big role but look at it jin just turned 30 in December last year but got called old and pushing 30 when since he was only 25. Age shaming has been prevalent for him since his debut. I am sure it’s worse for women in the industry but since I am a fan of jin I speak of him only in this context.

  • @Saktoth
    @Saktoth ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Sad that they couldn't just debut a generational concept with her as the leader. I mean this is kind of what GOT the beat is now.

  • @Malenassaura
    @Malenassaura ปีที่แล้ว +315

    Seeing my beautiful Solar and Moonbyul always bring a huge smile on my face. They went against the norm and even debuted a unit after both of them are over 30. Love it for them and for the entire of Mamamoo ❤

    • @Solip_i
      @Solip_i 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      During 2nd and 3rd gen, a lot of idols in their 20s and mid 20s used to debut tho!
      And on the contrary, it was pretty rare to see a minor in a group!
      Most of the members were in their 20s.

  • @Jjangbunbun
    @Jjangbunbun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +382

    Lets normalize ADULTS pursuing their dreams not juveniles who should go to school

    • @ari..0x
      @ari..0x 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You REALISE that, young people have dreams and they wanna achieve it soon as possible. Also when adults dance and stuff, there are people commenting “I don’t want old ass women and men shaking their ass” when they’re 27-28 yrs olds. If you want to normalize adults pursuing their dreams then what about super junior? Don’t tell me they’re “too old” when they are still ADULTS! Plus adults don’t really tend to have dreams of being idols as they grown up and start giving up and they also don’t work hard like a young person would! And young I mean 14-17 yrs olds are versatile and fast learners, that’s why companies want them.

    • @makesparkzfly
      @makesparkzfly 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@ari..0x27-28 isnt even old …

    • @unvitals
      @unvitals 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@ari..0x Realistically, entertainment companies want younger people because it’ll be easier to manipulate and exploit them. Literally the whole entertainment industry is based off companies taking advantage of their artists & doing whatever they can for revenue.. Children should not be exposed to this kind of business, not even if it’s their dream.

    • @ari..0x
      @ari..0x 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@makesparkzflyyeah you say that but not all fans agree including internationally and kstans! IMO even 30 yr olds are completely fine as long as they’re talented enough but not everyone sees it same

    • @ari..0x
      @ari..0x 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@unvitals Right I do agree with you but not all companies are alike but ig they do manipulate as I’ve never really experienced it. But I’m just trying to express my point from the comments above how the way they see their view isn’t what everyone sees it!

  • @nani2155
    @nani2155 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    I like Baby VOXes music, so I have done some digging myself. Apparently after their disbandment DR Music tried to revive the group under the name Baby Vox re.v, some spin off, the group failed to gain attention and soon disbanded.
    Apparently Rania was supposed to be the 3rd version of Baby Vox, but DR soon rebranded them as Rania.
    So we can safely assume that Baby Vox is still alive and now simply goes under the name of Blackswan

    • @KpopStan2009
      @KpopStan2009 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      That's what I noticed as well, Baby Vox never REALLY disbanded

    • @syryozh6957
      @syryozh6957 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😀😧💀

    • @Dervis128
      @Dervis128 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      There's a LOT more to it than that, but that is the gist. I'm a Kpop fan since gen1, and Baby Vox was what got me into Kpop, so I've always kept up with DR Muisc, and yeah. A mess. BlackSwan is essentially the spiritual successor to Baby Vox.

    • @rmslefttoe9024
      @rmslefttoe9024 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn…

    • @eee11111_
      @eee11111_ ปีที่แล้ว +19

      NO WAY THIS RANIA THING GOES TO WAY BEFORE LMAOOOO

  • @sighbatsu
    @sighbatsu ปีที่แล้ว +201

    This kinda crazy... the company wanting her to literally act a decade younger as if that would convince anybody - they easily could've said she was 25. But poor Lee Gai finding success after so long only to have it stripped away because of ageism in the entertainment industry.

    • @maple855
      @maple855 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why is ageism so strict🥺

  • @lmperfection
    @lmperfection 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    REMEMBER: This video is about ‘ageism’ and ought to challenge viewers prejudice against aging women. What would have been so wrong with being 30? She never would have been allowed to perform. Her lie is completely understandable and I think everyone is way too obsessed with how old she is. How about acknowledging her ambition, talent and successful musical career?! The comments highlight the discrimination that women face and the unfairness of public opinion. Just remember: this discrimination affects all women, not just public figures. We only feel comfortable calling them out because we have silent prejudices that we won’t admit to ourselves. Criticizing celebrities is a safe place to loudly broadcast one’s own prejudice, which we may all be victims of at times.

  • @CancerianTarot
    @CancerianTarot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    As a 30-year-old... 30 is not old. Not even close. You don't look old or seem old but you're more experienced and harder to control/take advantage of than young, vulnerable teens.

  • @AntonioGG1-9801
    @AntonioGG1-9801 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Lee Gai isn’t the bad guy it’s DR Entertainment and K-pop industry in general are the bad guys.

  • @av4l4rion
    @av4l4rion ปีที่แล้ว +111

    She's remarkable, because she possibly had the longest career a k-pop idol could have.

  • @OnnaNiSacheAre
    @OnnaNiSacheAre ปีที่แล้ว +722

    Girl with Blackswan you'll have a never ending story 😭 with all the mess, the videos just writes themselves... just wait until things get messy again lmao its a matter of time

    • @brandoniswhoiam
      @brandoniswhoiam ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Just when I thought that it was over!

    • @space-age-bachelorman
      @space-age-bachelorman ปีที่แล้ว +102

      she's already done videos on rania/blackswan,, i watched them when she released them but when i rewatched them a couple months later there'd already been a lineup change, and theres been ANOTHER change since 😭😭 its so crazy

    • @Niki_thebear
      @Niki_thebear ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Black swan is messed up

    • @absolutelynotellen
      @absolutelynotellen ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Honestly, the best option for BlackSwan right now is disbanding tbh especially after all that mess. I want to see them rebrand with new concept and group name and under new agency instead.

    • @JustGotALife
      @JustGotALife ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@absolutelynotellen have you not seen there new song. They're killing it with the new members.

  • @lmperfection
    @lmperfection 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Lee Gai is amazing. She is like Mulan, who lied about her gender to attempt to help her father, but succeeded in breaking free of society’s oppressive norms regarding a woman’s rights.

  • @ciderspider2476
    @ciderspider2476 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    If we just accepted 30 year olds being active in the music industry then we wouldn't even have this scandal.

  • @azimiza1210
    @azimiza1210 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    As someone who knew nothing about the early days of Baby VOX, i would say she lookd around 27-29 yo (based on her physical appearance). Tbh, the glasses she wore kinda age her a little more.

    • @hzzn
      @hzzn ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No one is calling her ahjumma because she looks 27-29. Lee gai literally looked like she could be 35 years old. Nayeon and jisoo are 28. Lee gai looks nothing like them.

    • @internationalmusicacademy2895
      @internationalmusicacademy2895 ปีที่แล้ว

      !!!

    • @jungshook2235
      @jungshook2235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@hzzn okay so? she still looks 27-28 for that time, before the way they used makeup focused on their features so they actually look their age, if you look at the average 28 year old in google they wont look like nayeon or jisoo

  • @maylinegarcia3357
    @maylinegarcia3357 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I think it would be refreshing to have a kpop/musical group with "older" people, maybe performing music that's reminiscent of the past/their times. There's something about Lee Gai that gives her a different kind of youth. And I think it would be a great way to challenge ageism. I really enjoyed seeing the clips of her performing. Makes me think there might be other adults out there who would want to pursue this dream they might've had as children. It probably wouldn't happen for a number of reasons, but I'd like to think that it could :)
    If there is a group like this that already exists, please let me know! I would love to check them out.

    • @taliak8760
      @taliak8760 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Refund Sisters is kinda like this… they were a project group with 4 members, one from each generation. I think they only have one song and it’s not reminiscent or nostalgic but it is badass and definitely challenges ageism. You should check it out if you haven’t already!

    • @maylinegarcia3357
      @maylinegarcia3357 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@taliak8760 Just watched it and I really enjoyed it!!! Thanks for sharing :))

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ⁠​⁠@@taliak8760 mamadol as well but they only lasted 8 days. I kinda hate that they won’t let them stay together. It’s just proving the point that ageism exists even in these cases bc it’s like “aww here fans it’s what you wanted women in their 30s getting to confidently own the stage but… ohh you only get a week of it” as if they are not worthy to have a full time career. Oh well there’s a group named Babys (ironically) that’s debuting in a few days and both members are in their 30s. Wonder what it will sound like.

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@maylinegarcia3357 if you haven’t got the notif from my comment to the other person, read my comment above for more. You could probably also look up groups with the oldest avg age to see if any of em are still active and/or have what you’re looking for.

    • @myragingwhormoans
      @myragingwhormoans ปีที่แล้ว +9

      xeed's members are in their late 20s early 30s. they debuted last year

  • @Yourguyemziii347
    @Yourguyemziii347 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Something very interesting is that DR lied about former member Yumi's age. Making here the third oldest when she was actually the maknae of the group. She also didn't feel respected because she was from the United States and the company didn't take care about her so she left

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not only that but I checked thier profile and two other members are also listed as being 80 liners when both are born in 1979. Waaaay too many lies there.

    • @Yourguyemziii347
      @Yourguyemziii347 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@nakynaki Oh yeah. Back then in Kpop It was very normal to lie a little bit about your age. Annie from Tashannie who was supposed to be in Fin.K.l confessed that the company wanted to lie about her age when she was only 20...

    • @Yourguyemziii347
      @Yourguyemziii347 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And also. Former NRG told one of my friends that the agency changed his age (I think like 4 o 5 years or even a little bit less or a little bit more)

  • @Tinykooandmikey
    @Tinykooandmikey ปีที่แล้ว +330

    This is why groups like Newjeans debuted. Companies are debuting children thinking that they are “old enough” to debut, but enter Blackpink for example; none of the girls were children when they debuted, and they were perfectly old enough to debut, but not too old. I mean Lisa and Jisoo were 19 and 21 respectively, but no one called them “aunties”, and rightfully so.
    I feel bad for Heejung because she didn’t deserve to give up for being 30. The fact that she was replaced by a child is not okay. You are exploiting children at this point. If this was not the reason why idols such as Jungkook and Seohyun debuted, then I don’t know what it is anymore.
    Edit: But wait, there is more. I’m glad Fifty Fifty exists because there is still hope for adults to debut more and more

    • @kpopislifefr
      @kpopislifefr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jealous so much?

    • @happyrainbow4444
      @happyrainbow4444 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @rozeh
      @rozeh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      but that child turned out to be Yoon Eun-hye (Princess Hours, Coffee Prince) so it turned out ok if not the best.

    • @Tinykooandmikey
      @Tinykooandmikey ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@kpopislifefr I love Jungkook, but I feel like he had struggles when he was a trainee and during the early years of BTS

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Tinykooandmikey yeah he said he was basically raised by BTS which makes me think he can’t help but have missed his family. I mean moving away at 13? That’s pretty tough especially when you think about the fact that Bighit ent was basically broke back in those days and the glam scandal happening right around the time of their debut and rookies days definitely didn’t help that.

  • @vale5889
    @vale5889 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    i feel sorry for her tbh.. i mean it was wrong to lie but now im worried where she is.. hope she is okay

  • @GretchenV95
    @GretchenV95 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Her wearing those glasses and beanies is like scooby-doo wearing a dress and a hat as a ‘disguise’. 💀💀

  • @OSunnee
    @OSunnee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I feel so bad for Lee Gai she tried so many times but failed☹️

  • @inkodotgore4332
    @inkodotgore4332 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Yg: you're 28 your a bit old
    yg you should not be talking 50 year old man debuting minors😐✋ the retirement home is down the street.

    • @fantasmaghoulical
      @fantasmaghoulical ปีที่แล้ว +11

      LMAOO😭😭😭

    • @koemjrystal3719
      @koemjrystal3719 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Preach it home queen

    • @tipennya
      @tipennya ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We'll just act like he didn't groom his underage artist for marriage, so of course that girl is too old for his tastes

    • @MrNosyNeasy
      @MrNosyNeasy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tipennyaHOLD UP WHAT

  • @eardrummed
    @eardrummed ปีที่แล้ว +121

    True story-- one time when i was 24 a girl came up to me in mall and offered to pay me 300 USD to help her with a girl group she was pitching to a talent agent but her friends had not showed up. I said "What do I have to do" and she said "Nothing, just be nice. I will fo the talking". So as I sat in this awkward interview, they point at me and say Im 14. I was shocked and prayed for them not to take photos or anything. Then she paid me and I left never to see them again. I had nightmares for weeks. 😂😂😂

    • @abnormalusername
      @abnormalusername ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I need to know more about this story.

    • @igzkzftfjztdfjz
      @igzkzftfjztdfjz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Okay this is crazy, I'm setting up camp here in hopes that you'll tell us your story haha

    • @dudududududualipa5345
      @dudududududualipa5345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So what happened after that?

  • @Yourguyemziii347
    @Yourguyemziii347 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Not gonna lie, Lee Gai always seemed so cute 💖

  • @MinaSteph
    @MinaSteph ปีที่แล้ว +39

    She was talented enough and really tried. I feel bad for her. The tides of the industry just didn't flow her way.

  • @your.querencia
    @your.querencia ปีที่แล้ว +41

    honestly i love blackswan’s new lineup (rooting for sriya and the members) and they’re doing pretty good. i mean (i think) they get along usually…and by book knowledge of what kpop is, even though they’re all foreigners, they’re still making korean music, speaking korean and living in korea…so they’re pretty much a kpop grp. hopefully they do well..i’m rooting for them

  • @Zenguin1104
    @Zenguin1104 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    bro she’s really the victim in this situation~ sad to see

  • @GuranPurin
    @GuranPurin ปีที่แล้ว +106

    The minute I found out she joined DR, I knew her chance at success was over, as someone who has been following Rania/Black Swan since around the Alex Era. That company is a hot mess and I couldn't help but laugh when Ploopy said she's wanting for something to go down before doing a new video on them, LMAO. Yes, something WILL indeed go down sooner rather than later.
    I wouldn't even be surprised if they actually wanted to throw Lee Gai in Black Swan (assuming she's still in DR, which I do truly doubt is the case, all things considered). I mean, they do need a Korean member at this point. 🤣

    • @Bunnybunny5656
      @Bunnybunny5656 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well blackswan is actually doing extremely well right now. They have been doing very good to come from a small company with a small fan base. They hit top 10 on several Korean, Indian, and Chinese charts with their song Karma.

    • @thethingcalledlisa
      @thethingcalledlisa ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Bunnybunny5656 it’s DR, their groups have been doing well several times and then something stupid happens

    • @Bunnybunny5656
      @Bunnybunny5656 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thethingcalledlisa hopefully Dr continued to do better. Ever sense the change in management they have been excelling

    • @stwrryria
      @stwrryria 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lee Hee Jung is 55 now 😨

    • @Erika-xm2mi
      @Erika-xm2mi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As someone who casually followed Rania since around their debuted, whenever they were close to hitting it big, something happened. And with the constant member changes and rebranding/renaming the group, I'm not surprised they've never hit it big. It's not the girls' fault, it's just an unwritten rule in kpop that groups that undergo lineup changes rarely become successful beyond being one-hit wonders.

  • @bonefishgrill6382
    @bonefishgrill6382 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    lol, this is not surprsing at all...
    Kpops "if she's not a teen, she's not a queen" policy 🤮

  • @Sanas_Shy_Language
    @Sanas_Shy_Language ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’m so happy to see a long format video on this. I have heard about her and done some of my own research in the past but it’s still hard to put together fully.

  • @maapauu4282
    @maapauu4282 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I feel so bad for her, she didn't deserve to be bullied

  • @sarahl9398
    @sarahl9398 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Wow..I never knew about this. What a pity that her career never panned out multiple times. I've been a fan of Baby Vox since 2002/2003 in my early teens and can't imagine any prior lineup.

    • @Insertname98
      @Insertname98 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasnt it a big shock for you when you found out she was 30?

    • @sarahl9398
      @sarahl9398 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Insertname98 I mean, I found out through this video and didn't know about Baby Vox when she was briefly in it. I'm pretty desensitized to kpop's ratchetness so I'm not too shocked lol. She did look discernibly older though.

  • @NicolasPetrosLanning
    @NicolasPetrosLanning ปีที่แล้ว +75

    BABY VOX I KNEW IT!

  • @shatteredshards8549
    @shatteredshards8549 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's kind of horrifying...like a train wreck...that DR Music has been playing musical chairs with group members for THIS LONG and still isn't bankrupt.

  • @sockjean2967
    @sockjean2967 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The fact they act like she’s 60 or something like there’s so much praise for groups with all adult members especially if they were born in the 90s

  • @nekomancer09
    @nekomancer09 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    this kind of this is still going on, just probably not as extreme. quite a few idols have different birthdates from what is stated by their company/profiles. its even easier now too with better cosmetic procedures being available and better photo/video editing

    • @myragingwhormoans
      @myragingwhormoans ปีที่แล้ว +5

      wonho's age was fabricated in monsta x, to make him younger than shownu. their company likes to have the leaders be the "oldest" members of the group i guess, since they also did it with wjsn.

  • @primarytrainer1
    @primarytrainer1 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    shame that they have to act like 30 is grandma age

  • @kpopluver0494
    @kpopluver0494 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Man, this is a crazy story. You always find the most random and interesting things! ❤

  • @shikiamabe1290
    @shikiamabe1290 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    of course it's the same company as rania/blackswan...what a hot mess of a company they are
    tbh this woman seems cool, i actually like the image she created for herself. also i hope that in future there will appear more kpop groups where all members will be well in their 20s(or even 30s) at the time of debut, the ageism in kpop is a serious problem that needs to be fought

  • @Kaito028
    @Kaito028 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That's one of the things I don't like about K-pop. Debuting kids and retired them in their 30's and late 20's. In my opinion, they should debut people who are above 18 and now also it is hard for me to see idols who are in their 30's fading away from the limelight.

  • @alexiesalcantara7342
    @alexiesalcantara7342 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I watched the midnight theories version of this and it seems that Lee Gai is struggling at that time she was an idol and she really need work to help her family

  • @ItzCocozx_
    @ItzCocozx_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ngl, hwasa in mamamoo does actually look like she’s in her 40s, so she’s probably faking her age so netizens do no hate since she’s that old, since they only allow “young people.”

  • @stephp3455
    @stephp3455 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Baby V.O.X. Is iconic for many things and I have to say this is one of them.

  • @raquel1004
    @raquel1004 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Interesting video! I remember hearing about Lee Gai briefly during a Baby Vox deep dive on the podcast Ask Me About Kpop, but it was great to hear a more in-depth version of her story!

  • @jinxieunlucky
    @jinxieunlucky ปีที่แล้ว +17

    DR Music has really been out here mistreating their artists for decades

    • @iagreewithyou3478
      @iagreewithyou3478 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How is this company still afloat even after all these failures? I bet they have other shady business that actually generate revenue. And that's scary for their artists. These small companies are largely unmonitored and are most likely to take "shortcuts," which involves having their artists "accompany" some bigwigs.

    • @Chris-ot9bk
      @Chris-ot9bk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iagreewithyou3478 it's confirmed that it's because of shady business lol

    • @reaverlene
      @reaverlene 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Chris-ot9bk who confirmed it?

    • @Chris-ot9bk
      @Chris-ot9bk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reaverlene everybody who worked in DR lol

  • @youweremymuse
    @youweremymuse ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If youre asking "how did they think this could work?" The answer is DR music. Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

    • @Chris-ot9bk
      @Chris-ot9bk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The only thing I'll give DR credit is that they had an amazing eye for talent. Baby Vox, Rania and Blackswan are all top tier groups and I respect him not giving up on her, but dude cannot manage a company and literally let one of the Rania girls move back to her native country without her notifying anybody and them not trying to find her 😭😭

  • @nottherese
    @nottherese ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dang!!! I feel bad for her too, thank you so much for a well thought out and well researched explanation, this was a fascinating video

  • @Yourguyemziii347
    @Yourguyemziii347 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for talking about this Queen!

  • @cuckoophendula8211
    @cuckoophendula8211 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Man, as someone who only has heard the aespa version of "dreams come true," it was really cool to listen to the one from decades before.

  • @AndI0op-
    @AndI0op- ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hiiii Ploopy, thank you for a new upload we missed you 💞

    • @ploopy678
      @ploopy678  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've actually been posting more than ever! But I've mostly been posting dance videos on my TH-cam shorts! If you haven't seen it yet then be sure to check it out!

    • @AndI0op-
      @AndI0op- ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ploopy678 ohh right I forgot about those, you did a dance cover for Queencard and spicy right? Well anyways, thanks for another great video 🫶🫶

  • @mustardstain
    @mustardstain ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Funny how the age concern doesn't seem to exist when it comes to male idols...

  • @rainbowow5060
    @rainbowow5060 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Awesome video! First generation kpop was really something else😂

  • @japanizer
    @japanizer ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finally another video of Ploopy. Thanks for the new video. ❤❤❤

  • @LadyAyoka
    @LadyAyoka ปีที่แล้ว +4

    was just watching some of your dancing shorts wondering, “i hope ploops is doing ok overall.” glad to have another video!

  • @callmehchibi
    @callmehchibi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Something I love about your videos is that you don't over exaggerate the pictures for the videos, so when I click on your videos, I know that the title is what I'm clicking on!!! Keep up the great work!

  • @scanspeak00
    @scanspeak00 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm new to Kpop and really enjoy these fascinating history lessons.
    There was a Vietnamese guy I used to work with. Everyone thought he was in his 20s but he was actually 42 so I guess some people can get away with it!
    Cheers from Melbourne.

  • @miss_mollie_jane
    @miss_mollie_jane ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I’m looking forward to your Rania/Blackswan part 3! I got into Blackswan, ironically as a result of your videos on Rania and I am keen to see your opinion on the behaviour of Miss Larissa
    I’ll say now that I hope you’re wrong and that more stuff won’t go down, because I LOVE the current lineup and they’re clearly having a great time with That Karma and have had lots of great opportunities this year, but I don’t trust DR music at all 😒

  • @n0tl4ra_
    @n0tl4ra_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I crave everyday for ploopy's new posts😫😫 I LOVE YOUR CONTENT 🥹🩷

  • @lll.24601
    @lll.24601 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Note, Haebokkae is actually a cover of the song Two of Hearts by Stacey Q, so not really an original song.

  • @jeongyeons_honey1942
    @jeongyeons_honey1942 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    BLACKSWAN are definitely improving now which is good the new members and the concept is great. Even though the company is terrible don’t hate on the group their new song and members are really good

    • @melodyShaffronICHILLIN_fan
      @melodyShaffronICHILLIN_fan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I really agree with you, but I think both the group and company is doing better

  • @kyungrix1112
    @kyungrix1112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's insane how much LYING goes on in the KPOP industry. They keep doing it, they always get caught, but they don't learn the lesson. It's so weird!

  • @cherryblossom7442
    @cherryblossom7442 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tbh I'm sick of new kpop fans ageism and discrimination. 30 is young it's not old.

  • @angelxxii
    @angelxxii ปีที่แล้ว +6

    why does it matter... she just lied about her age to not get hate,
    why would she need to apologise? she just had to do it and it was her dream

  • @maidberry5129
    @maidberry5129 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i wonder if the other members knew about lee gai's real identity and age?

  • @SadiaIslamShouki
    @SadiaIslamShouki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lee Gai does look like 30, I am sorry whoever saying she has youth visual and all, that's not true, she clearly does look like 30. It wasn’t her fault, it’s company's fault.

  • @Amasloth
    @Amasloth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks .. totally stanning Lee Gae forever now

  • @jenny-fishy7
    @jenny-fishy7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love seeing your deep dives! the audio felt a lot more rough here compared to your other videos though?

  • @kiki_davis
    @kiki_davis ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lee gai debuted more than the izone members. But i do feel sorry for her. She was doing this to pay her father's medical fee

  • @chunyipli3410
    @chunyipli3410 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ❤❤really miss your videos, finally you are come back, also sharing this interesting story 😎😎

  • @x.0.x.
    @x.0.x. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ploopyyyy❤❤❤ thank you for effort and amazing vids!

  • @sarahgawn5828
    @sarahgawn5828 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I literally had a dream last night like this. I had made it though competition style auditions and was set to debut in a girl group. The only problem was the youngest member of the group was 13 and I am 33. So I volunteered to figure out how to pass for 23 With the other 3 members having ages in between. Our debut stage didn’t go bad but it wasn’t great either

  • @maxxannishi
    @maxxannishi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    30 years old isn't even old, wth are you guys saying?

  • @OsamasStory
    @OsamasStory ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:45 yaaaaaaaaaaaasssss part 3 😭😭😭😭😭 thank you ploopy678, I love you.

  • @L.G.127
    @L.G.127 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She never give up, I have to give it for that

  • @staciii
    @staciii ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ajumma just means married middle aged woman, not necessarily aunt.

  • @palestar828
    @palestar828 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is absolutely sad and horrific that women are only considered attractive when they are younger. Who cares what her age was? If she can perform a song and dance and actually has real talent, then who cares how old or young she is? It's sad how society puts an emphasis on looks and age with women, but men don't have to live up to the same standards. It's honestly disgusting. I would have faked my age and identity too instead of being told that I'm too old to perform my passion/talent.

  • @anjallama4986
    @anjallama4986 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seriously YG? Why does it matter if they want to perform at 28? I guess 28 and up is too old to go to school too. Why does it seem that most Koreans judge based solely on age?

  • @Romanianqueen
    @Romanianqueen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Me personally I wouldn't fake my age, just a pseudonym will do. I don't want people finding where I went to school at, who my parents are, siblings, friends, etc.

  • @TriceyXo
    @TriceyXo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Honestly they could've passed her off as 23-26 and the fans would've believed it; she wasn't as youthful looking as her members but she was youthful looking enought to be considered in her mid to late 20s especially seeing as she was one of the shortest members and she has a soft/cutesy voice. I'm not saying they should've lied but if they were gonna lie they should've done it the right way and just said she was again 23-26.

  • @00smodels
    @00smodels ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I suddenly feel ancient and I’m only 28. I was 3 in 1998.

  • @lasciviouspaine
    @lasciviouspaine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    tbh after discovering how the industry negatively impacts their mental well-being, i'm in favour of idols keeping their identity secret.
    it's ESPECIALLY harder on those younger, it's unforgiving

  • @meganedias636
    @meganedias636 ปีที่แล้ว

    gurl i waited for your video for so long finally!!

  • @soraka666
    @soraka666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your videos are so informative and I just realized you’re the same girl who does the Kpop dance cover shorts 😮😮😮

    • @viaaa567
      @viaaa567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😳😳😳

  • @hopenot6575
    @hopenot6575 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like I don't know why people hated her she just wanted to become a singer on a successful stage like does her age matter ,