For a bit of fun and to help the algorithm, what would everyone's yacht company be called and what boats would it make ? Mine would be called Renigade. I would make 3 boats . A 36 the Renigade 360 . A 42 the Renigade 420 . A 66ft 6 called the Renigade 666 . The 360 and the 420 would be cruiser racer. Available in center or aft cockpit . Sloop or sluter ketch. You could have fin keel, bilge keel or full keel with dry out legs . With or without a deck saloon They would be made to walk the line right between speed , comfort , cost and style . But the actual hull lines would be penned for max speed. You could have any colour you like so long as it's black with a gold stripe . Fit options our fit or sail away for self fit . Ethics bang for buck , no expense spared where it really matters , every expense spared where it doesn't. Our fit would be cheap and utilitarian. Only hint of luxury oak flooring and counter tops . Everything else just ply covered in resin and gel coat. No options at all . We would actively push people to self finish so we can stamp and send as many as possible. The 666 would be lifting keel pure breed Racer . Only available in sailaway for race teams to fit themselves . Target being to build the world's fastest mono under 70 ft while being the cheapest boat over 65 . Even if we sold it at a loss . The point would be to win races and make us famous to sell more 360s and 420s . They would all have Yanmar engines about 20% bigger than they need. I would try to be what Honda is to the car world. Cocky obnoxious owners that are like why would you buy anything else moron. Every one that doesn't own one full of hate like fuck that cheap ass boat with rude owners that keeps out running mine and not breaking down.!!
F it lets go deep , construction methods. I'm imagining a start up company so we talking a few chippies , a rigger and a cad person in an aircraft hanger . How you going to build the best boats you can ?. Space frame it like a race car . Roll your hull in the mold old school . 80mm below water line then 60 fading to 40 above it . Crane in a CNC cut steel skeleton. Backbone , 2 ribs at the shrouds cross braced through the mast step of the coach roof . 2 at the point the second mast would sit if it has one or not again cross brace where the mast step would be. 2 in the v of the bow. Then 2 horizontal bands one at the line of the twin skeg hung rudders and one where the hull joins the deck molding . Crane on the deck molding and glass everything together the deck, the metal frame and the hull .Glass the entire thing together. Then if it's bilge keel mode you bolt them to the same band the twin rudders are Bolted to . If it's fin or full keel it gets bolted along the spine . That way all stress off mast and rigging goes straight through the metal frame and into the keel . meaning the deck could be really light build its not under stress. The keels would have a tone of bolt points aswell and might aswell be water tanks . Between the metal frame you glass 50mm wooden baton along the inside of the hull every 400 mm. Foam insulate the voids and role 5mm layer of glass over all of that . Then clad over that with tongue and groove screwed into the batton meaning the wooden hull lining makes the boat even more ridged. Or if you racing it just gel coat the bare glass . When you get bigger drop an all carbon range out the same 3 molds .
Solar Wind Yachts - I’d build blue water cruisers in glass at about 55’ - centre cockpit ketch rigged cutter, semi full keel with a skeg hung rudder - with one queen bed aft cabin and proper passage births for 5 singles - solar and wind equipped from the builder complete with massive lithium battery banks/zero propane - 100 hp Ford Lehman with 1000 - 1200 nm range - NL gen set for backup - mechanical and electronic auto pilots with redundancy on the electronic. Then all the bells/whistles - massive freezers/fridge - air con/heat pump I might actually build one for someone else, too - the model name would be the Viking and my vessel would be christened “Sea Horse I” LOL! - that was fun!
Bangkawaka Yachts , specialists in aluminium cruising blue water, and performance trimarans (folding amas like the Rapid 40 n 50 and the Dragonfly range)
The joy isn't the end of the journey. More joy can be found in the journey itself. So many, including myself, are trapped into the lives we have. I admire you both for having the life I wish for. Your adventures are giving me hope to realize my dreams. Thank you for your videos.
This is my first time watching one of your videos. I was looking for roaring 40s videos and you came up. You two look like you are just calmly moving through the world trying not to cause any waves! LOL! Pun intended! Love the peace of this video. Subscribed!
Once again y’all soldier on knowing the better days are ahead. Also it’s the bad days that make the good ones all that much better. Once again a great vid. Fair winds and following seas (and no rogue waves). Cheers Jim
It was really good to hear from guys today, so glad you made it back across safely. I had to kick back in time to remember the journey that began the loooong stay. Love ya both.
I like that you cover all the topics I want to know about! This is what seriously sets your channel apart from others. Very informative!! Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Soldier on guys. I admire your stamina. The weather, the winds you met on your voyage is normal for us in Scandinavia. It all falls down to how you handle it. Work against it or with it :-)
You make the north atlantic look so easy. Others have had a rougher time. 18:50 a solar oven, cool. I've wondered about solar water panels, I've got two, I just got through setting one up and it really produces well. Believe it or not, they were given to me !
Have you ever considered using a cut up piece of an old sail as a bedspread to cover you bedding at sea? If you are sleeping directly below the companion way it keeps an intruding wave from instantly soaking you and your bedding, and you can then use it to dump most of the offending bit of ocean onto the cabin floor. Yes, it is rough and crinkly, but if you are in your foulies and all wet you can sit or lay down a moment to rest before you go back out on deck without having undress and redress.
Madi, someone’s probably already said this, but I had once suffered badly, I now use acupressure ‘sea bands’ these interrupt the balance signals in my hands, along with that I tell my self not to tense up and move with the boat, hope this helps, love your videos
I know that we are seeing what happened long ago and you are past all the headaches of the passage. I just hope that you will have a great time in the med and the next long passage you make will be a lot more fun. All the best
Think backto thedays of the ICW and how your challenges then stack up against your challenges of the North Atlantic. Pretty amazing effort...kudos to you guys.
Rogue waves are wacky. Years ago I was on an oil tanker headed from Valdez, Alaska to US west coast. Sunny day, 8 to 12 knots of wind 2 foot seas. Out of no where a 17 foot wave broke over the deck. We were loaded with oil, so freeboard was 13ish feet, so about 4 feet of solid sea water washed over the rail.
Suffering ennobles a man, Enduring the oyster-shell’s prison makes a pearl of a water-drop How long will you live, or run after Being or Non-Being? A life so dogged by sorrow Is best spent in sleep or drunkenness --Omar Khayyam
Hi, Herby, We were thinking of installing dyneema and everything that goes with it. But my hubby, Dave, is thinking for lightning he'd like to keep one metal, for instance the backstay, to take the lightning down from the mast. He'll put a lightning diffuser up the mast, and one metal stay going to the stern. There he'd put in metal down to the water and have a big copper plate down there. Do you think this would work? Laurie
Honestly, lightning strikes are rare and the damage is variable. The most common thing is the electronics in the boat fry, the worst outcome is the boat gets a hole burned into it below the waterline. We have a lightning diffuser mounted on our keel and the mast itself is grounded to it by a big cable. The boat came with the system, so I assume the previous owner had confidence in it. As for keeping a single stay steel to bring the charge down to the water, the mast itself will be a big conductor. Having a metal stay will help share the immense amount of energy rushing through. The backstay or headstay are good candidates for this job.
Welcome to my world lol! Hope The Algarve is treating you well. I meant to say before - when you go to Cadiz you might like to take a trip up the Guadalquivir to Seville - it's an amazing city with a rich history, not least as the setting off point for one Ferdinand Magellan...
@@RiggingDoctor I'm pretty sure the river is navigable all the way. At Seville the river has been diverted and the original course has been locked off at the southern end. You can go through the lock and to within a mile or so of the town.
No doubt that the North Atlantic is a tough passage. Seems to much like work. I bet your glad that you don't have a long list of things to fix. Porto will be wonderful.
I’d take this crossing over sitting on the hard any time! What time of year and route was the previous crossing you enjoyed so well? Forgive me if that info’s in a previous video, I just came across your channel this morning. Will take me a bit to catch up.
Oh dear and I feel for you. Happened to us during the summer too. 10 gallons of saltwater down the hatch locked in the slightly open position. Landed on the wife and the puppy you painted for us last winter. The water splashed off the table and soaked the tv which then went puff when we switched it on later that night. They don't tell you about this stuff when you walk around the boatshows, wonder why not.
Just found you guys I know I'm going to love your channel just sub, I'm a scuba diver snorkler and love cruise ships. Thanks for sharing sincerely Adventures of David and Aaron.⚓⚓⚓
For your viewers information, 150 watts equals 0.2 Horse Power, 10X less than the Outboard motor you have on your stern rail. Are the deck mounted solar panels work? I see the STB panel covered with ropes, that one is surely not performing much? Loosing 2 knots while engaging the regen appears high, especially when you have sufficient wind to drive the boat at 7 knots!!! I was using a Tow generator and was losing max 1/2 knot at 6Knots. At 3 knots of boat speed, the tow generator had stopped completely producing energy. Have you left Porto and are you on your way to Lisbon? Cheers, Richard
We often joke that we should drop the outboard into the water because it would give more push than the inboard! Only the port panel is hooked up. We needed to use the stb charge controller for the stern panel setup. That panel is just waiting for the port panel to die so that it can get wired up.
I'm new to your channel, so please forgive rookie question.... I'm sure your boat doesn't have air conditioning, but do you have a heater on board?? How are the temps in your cabin?
We have air conditioning but it needs to be plugged into shore power to work. For heat, we have a diesel heater which works very well to keep the cabin warm in the winter :)
Yes the rougue waves are pain and mean the doors and port holes all must be closed . That is hard when it hot. very hard to stop boat when it surfs down waves and risks to break things or worse broach .
Congratulations.. now you know why experienced cruisers don't leave the companionway open. The weather doesn't even need to be "bad" for rogue waves to occur. They can rise up out of a pretty calm sea. Keep the companionway closed on passage, and if ventilation is a problem, fit more/better dorades.
What a HORRIBLE wake-up call! Fortunately rogue waves aren't common (although IIRC, you got hit by one during a storm). And I wasn't thinking of the salt acting like a wick. Ugh! Hope you are less than a day from landfall. Ugh! still 5 days (or more) out! Prolly shouldn't make the comment since I can't be there, but I'm remembering my own seasickness episodes, and horrible conditions, and wish I were with you: it's ALL sailing, and the toughest times are dear because they underscore how wonderful the good times are.
Your further north than I expected you would sail. Cold air and water up there and you must be getting wnw winds pushing you south east. Those rogue waves are never a welcome sight. At first I thought you took it over the stern and filled the cockpit. At least is wasn't as bad as the last one. As you get south it should warm up and be more sunny for you. Happy sailing.
Your experience of being able to use your electric engine in regen mode as an efficient "down-wave break" comparable to a series drouge is really interesting. How far from your stern would you estimate your prop is located? In the recent Golden globe single handled round the world ""race", my understanding is the few boats that were not knocked down by waves used something like series drouges although of different constructions. To try to meet storm conditions by heaving to was fundamentally unsuccessful. So your experience is really interesting. On what level was electricity regenerated? Good luck ahead!
It works very well. I have never used a series drogue but I have read about them extensively! The prop is about 10-11 feet forward of the transom. When sailing above 5 knots or in a storm where it holds us back, we generate around 4-6 amps at 48v. This becomes 16-24 amps at 12v! In a storm, we will still be booking it at around 5-7 knots instead of 8-9 knots, but with so much more comfort and control.
We have a diesel electric propulsion system on our catamaran and only really use regen for slowing the boat down to a more comfortable speed. Generally, we would rather use our generator occasionally to charge the batteries than suffer the loss of speed from using regen.
Is there some sort of relatively accurate z-axis logger/tracker? Meaning, something that will track your rise and fall and get close to tracking wave heights? Might be kind of fun to see that some days, like your overnight rogue wave.
@@RiggingDoctor oh. Gotcha. That's a shame. I can imagine all the nerd cruisers having a pow wow over a camp fire, while one Captain says to the other, " we took 20'ers on the beam, and I slept through it because I'm so salty!". Then he gets his Z log. They were 3-5'ers. Everyone laughs. I ask, "how big was the fish you caught again?" I reckon I'm one of those nerd sailors 🤓
We set sail from Angra do Heroismo in Terceira, Azores. From there we sailed due north until we reached 44*40’N 27*46’W. Then onto 47*23’N 18*00’W. Then onto 44*07’N 10*47’W. Then we sailed into port. We got pretty close to England and Ireland but we kept well away from the Bay of Biscay!
@@RiggingDoctor Yes we're in Cartagena, love it here. When we went through we anchored in Rota rather than Cadiz as the winds were from the North and it's quite sheltered. You can still get to Cadiz easily on the ferry that runs from the Marina in Rota if you want a day trip there. (its worth a visit!) Steve
Forgive the length of string question - BUT, lol. In your professional guesstimate opinion, how long would you expect to get out of a cruising mainsail etc on a live aboard boat about the size of your own, driven moderately, not like a mad man....much as yourself. I love the idea of reefing by the angle of heel. cruising, not racing.
We are hoping to get a good 10 years out of our current mainsail. He’s currently 2 years old and just starting to stretch in the luff. We will be putting a Cunningham on him shortly to get plenty more years out of him!
Offshore we batten down all the hatches but the companionway stays open until the winds get up to 30 knots. At that point, splashes can get inside. We keep it open to get some airflow in the boat. It gets too stuffy to keep it all closed up.
Rigging Doctor a few gallons of saltwater this time sounds like an opportunity for growth. We’d much prefer that air bubble in your hull isn’t compromised in any way
The videos are about 3 months behind. For real-time updates, you can follow us on Facebook and instagram ☺️. Here’s an old episode where we explained how the monitor works: th-cam.com/video/q3d7jj-3yIQ/w-d-xo.html
Just curious.... Did you happen to contact the sailboats you encountered? What were their names? Nice video, sorry you got wet! Hopefully, the remaining passage went better than the first part.
Clip a GoPro on a rail and just let it record. No monologue or music. Just everyday sailing raw and uncut. Ive seen a few other people do that, Christian Williams, Sailing Uma just to name a couple. Might even catch a rough wave in the footage as well. Just a request that all.
We heard about Uma’s. It’s a good idea, but our cameras aren’t as fancy as theirs and I’m afraid the wind noise would be unbearable. Nevertheless, perhaps we will try it in the Med.
Great video! Look to see (not experience) a rogue wave, sorry you all did! Any chance at some point you could explain the whole concept of 'hull speed'?
We can do a video on hull speed to explain it better. Basically, it’s the maximum speed of the boat. Longer hull, higher speed; shorter boat, shorter speed.
@@RiggingDoctor OK, well I kinda understand that but I've also read that some boats are very capable of exceeding their hull speed by up to 100% as in the case of performance kayaks? I don't pretend to understand, hence my question....!? Thank you for the reply, hope I'm not a rogue question! :)
Yeah, you're not the first cruiser to get swamped by a rogue wave in the last two weeks. Most of them (about 3) lost a lot of valuable electronics because of them.I feel bad for you's. There's only one defence from them and thats just keep the windows and hatches closed, and just open and close them as you go in and out of the salon. I wish you could set up the radar to detect them enough to give you 30 seconds to give you a fighting chance. (Maybe one day) You'll just have to put up with stuffy salon if you want to stay nice and dry. You're stuck between a stuffy and a swamped place ! Cheers
It’s a 1968 Morgan 45. I bought her for $19,500 in 2012, then spent 5 years rebuilding her for our Cruising Life. I wouldn’t wait the five years working like we did. As soon as she’s ready to sail, get going! You will always be working on her as you go so you might as well get going sooner :)
I am also watching the daily blog from Uma which is also crossing to Europe. But I know the effect of rogue waves. I have a 54ft mast on my Trimaran and have shipped one that went at least half way up the mast, it came over the port fwd quarter.. I was in 8 to 10ft seas on a reach with double reef on the main and mini storm sail on the head. You never hear them coming.
@@RiggingDoctor I designed and built the trimaran myself and since it does not have wing decks (all accommodation in center hull) it's as safe as. I just have netting between the hulls.
@@RiggingDoctor , 40ft main hull length, 28ft total beam, 2 ft draft on main hull and no brakes. Maximum speed reach since her launch 32.5 knots on a downwind reach in 4 to 6 ft swells. She was fully loaded then and 9 days into a 45 day passage. Not funny when your solo.
I have plans, well at this point lets call them dreams, of going cruising the world in a sailboat. But since I found about rogue waves, I will be honest, I am having second thoughts. (From my ignorance) it just seems like flipping a coin. I don't see how one of those humongous waves breaking on the beam will not capsize a sailboat or even (in the worst case) sink it. And this in the middle of the ocean. If I were on my own, screw it I would do it. But with family? it makes me rethink the whole thing.
I totally understand that. The huge 90 foot rogue waves are incredibly rare. Honestly, most that you’ll come across are just slightly larger waves traveling in a different direction from all the others. They take you by surprise and may get you wet, but aren’t dangerous.
hi, I'm from Chile and don't speak English, I follow your videos but I have to ask for help to translate what you say, so could you have the subtitles on spanish please?
Very good point! When wind shifts around (clockwise or counterclockwise) I always refer to it as “clocking around” with no regard for which way it’s going to be changing! I will look into it so that I don’t miss speak again!
On the English shipping forecast they would talk about the wind veering and backing . Clockwise and anti clockwise respectively ......since we only got the 5 minute forecast every 6 hours you had to learn the terms! I don't think you are going to get very good wind in the med in the summer, but less waves and a lot of sun so maybe have to practice that slow motoring. Cheers Warren
When we got our new sails, we didn’t want white because we would look like every other boat out there! The color is called “tanbark” because they are not just one color. Depending on the light, they are red, brown, orange, or purple! All depends on how the light hits it 😉
Its hard to believe 150 watts of solar power, and it’s probably less than that on a cloudy day, will generate more milage toward your destination your sails, even if the sails don’t give you a direct course.
The panels keep the batteries charged, the sails make us move forward :) if we try it the other way, we are quickly reminded of this fact. We frequently get asked about doing such a thing and we decided to test it out and see the results. Not much speed!
One consideration in constantly using your electric motor is that batteries have lifespans. Depending on dozens of different factors, lithium-ion batteries start losing their capacity anywhere from 200-2000 full charge cycles. 600 is typical for something like a laptop, Tesla advertises about 1,500 charge cycles. (to maintain 80% original capacity). So, if you constantly use your battery, every hour you are draining it, then charging it, is a small percentage of your batteries lifespan that you are using. Not to say it isn't worth it. You should look up specifications for your battery, and manufacturers recommendations. I am by no means an expert.
Our lead acid batteries were a few hundred cycles. Pretty pathetic figure actually… The new lifepo4 cells we installed have a cycle life of 3000 80% cycles. If we keep the cycles shallower than 50%, it jumps up to 8000 cycles! They will all wear out in time and when they do something far better will exist to replace them.
That is exactly when we use it! Once we get into open water we raise the jib and sail properly, but in tight quarters, not having to mess with sheets is a huge advantage!
After having crossed an ocean and made it safely to the other side, we don’t have range anxiety. We view ourselves as engineless with a docking helper attached to our propeller.
As i understand it a rogue wave is usually made up of swell and wind waves peaking at the same place and forming a wave of the combined height of both of them...sometimes it can be swell1 and swell2 plus wind wave peaks all at the same place. For this reason you must always point the correct direction...avoiding taking a rogue on your beam and possibly capsizing you. But my knowledge is not very extensive so i welcome any more advice on this topic. cheers
We have hot water, but we need to boil water in a teapot first. It takes a while to prepare and we were in a rush, so cold showers it was that way we could get the boat desalted!
Not really. The reason our boat is so low and flat is so that if a wave comes over it, the wave just passes by without transferring much energy to the boat. We have had a ton of waves and no issues like that.
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For a bit of fun and to help the algorithm, what would everyone's yacht company be called and what boats would it make ?
Mine would be called Renigade.
I would make 3 boats . A 36 the Renigade 360 . A 42 the Renigade 420 . A 66ft 6 called the Renigade 666 .
The 360 and the 420 would be cruiser racer. Available in center or aft cockpit . Sloop or sluter ketch. You could have fin keel, bilge keel or full keel with dry out legs . With or without a deck saloon They would be made to walk the line right between speed , comfort , cost and style . But the actual hull lines would be penned for max speed. You could have any colour you like so long as it's black with a gold stripe . Fit options our fit or sail away for self fit . Ethics bang for buck , no expense spared where it really matters , every expense spared where it doesn't.
Our fit would be cheap and utilitarian. Only hint of luxury oak flooring and counter tops . Everything else just ply covered in resin and gel coat. No options at all . We would actively push people to self finish so we can stamp and send as many as possible.
The 666 would be lifting keel pure breed Racer . Only available in sailaway for race teams to fit themselves . Target being to build the world's fastest mono under 70 ft while being the cheapest boat over 65 . Even if we sold it at a loss . The point would be to win races and make us famous to sell more 360s and 420s .
They would all have Yanmar engines about 20% bigger than they need.
I would try to be what Honda is to the car world. Cocky obnoxious owners that are like why would you buy anything else moron.
Every one that doesn't own one full of hate like fuck that cheap ass boat with rude owners that keeps out running mine and not breaking down.!!
F it lets go deep , construction methods.
I'm imagining a start up company so we talking a few chippies , a rigger and a cad person in an aircraft hanger .
How you going to build the best boats you can ?. Space frame it like a race car .
Roll your hull in the mold old school . 80mm below water line then 60 fading to 40 above it .
Crane in a CNC cut steel skeleton. Backbone , 2 ribs at the shrouds cross braced through the mast step of the coach roof .
2 at the point the second mast would sit if it has one or not again cross brace where the mast step would be.
2 in the v of the bow.
Then 2 horizontal bands one at the line of the twin skeg hung rudders and one where the hull joins the deck molding .
Crane on the deck molding and glass everything together the deck, the metal frame and the hull .Glass the entire thing together.
Then if it's bilge keel mode you bolt them to the same band the twin rudders are Bolted to .
If it's fin or full keel it gets bolted along the spine .
That way all stress off mast and rigging goes straight through the metal frame and into the keel . meaning the deck could be really light build its not under stress.
The keels would have a tone of bolt points aswell and might aswell be water tanks .
Between the metal frame you glass 50mm wooden baton along the inside of the hull every 400 mm. Foam insulate the voids and role 5mm layer of glass over all of that .
Then clad over that with tongue and groove screwed into the batton meaning the wooden hull lining makes the boat even more ridged.
Or if you racing it just gel coat the bare glass .
When you get bigger drop an all carbon range out the same 3 molds .
Solar Wind Yachts - I’d build blue water cruisers in glass at about 55’ - centre cockpit ketch rigged cutter, semi full keel with a skeg hung rudder - with one queen bed aft cabin and proper passage births for 5 singles - solar and wind equipped from the builder complete with massive lithium battery banks/zero propane - 100 hp Ford Lehman with 1000 - 1200 nm range - NL gen set for backup - mechanical and electronic auto pilots with redundancy on the electronic.
Then all the bells/whistles - massive freezers/fridge - air con/heat pump
I might actually build one for someone else, too - the model name would be the Viking and my vessel would be christened “Sea Horse I”
LOL! - that was fun!
Bangkawaka Yachts , specialists in aluminium cruising blue water, and performance trimarans (folding amas like the Rapid 40 n 50 and the Dragonfly range)
The joy isn't the end of the journey. More joy can be found in the journey itself.
So many, including myself, are trapped into the lives we have.
I admire you both for having the life I wish for.
Your adventures are giving me hope to realize my dreams.
Thank you for your videos.
Thanks :)
Rent out your house and go lol who cares about debt
This is my first time watching one of your videos. I was looking for roaring 40s videos and you came up. You two look like you are just calmly moving through the world trying not to cause any waves! LOL! Pun intended! Love the peace of this video. Subscribed!
As much as your boat is moving there is very little to zero creaking. That is fantastic!
Once again y’all soldier on knowing the better days are ahead. Also it’s the bad days that make the good ones all that much better. Once again a great vid. Fair winds and following seas (and no rogue waves).
Cheers
Jim
Watching this during corona lockdown in Australia. Nice.
Awesome! We are in lockdown in Austria and it’s amazing how many people think Australia when we tell them where we are 🤔
It was really good to hear from guys today, so glad you made it back across safely. I had to kick back in time to remember the journey that began the loooong stay. Love ya both.
I like that you cover all the topics I want to know about! This is what seriously sets your channel apart from others. Very informative!! Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I'm thankful that there are people doing what you do, & being honest, show it like it is. One day soon I'm going...
When going off the wind use your main to dampen rolling. Even reefed and centerlined will make a huge difference.
Soldier on guys. I admire your stamina. The weather, the winds you met on your voyage is normal for us in Scandinavia. It all falls down to how you handle it. Work against it or with it :-)
Yes, rogue waves are SO COMMON! Thinking that won't happen will end up in an unhappy situation. Guaranteed!!
You make the north atlantic look so easy. Others have had a rougher time. 18:50 a solar oven, cool. I've wondered about solar water panels, I've got two, I just got through setting one up and it really produces well. Believe it or not, they were given to me !
Have you ever considered using a cut up piece of an old sail as a bedspread to cover you bedding at sea? If you are sleeping directly below the companion way it keeps an intruding wave from instantly soaking you and your bedding, and you can then use it to dump most of the offending bit of ocean onto the cabin floor. Yes, it is rough and crinkly, but if you are in your foulies and all wet you can sit or lay down a moment to rest before you go back out on deck without having undress and redress.
The question: “How ya feelin, Maddie?”
The response:”The Look”....
Thank you for showing the 'real' world of most ocean sailing.
C.S. Thorogood Unable to decipher what you mean by your comment. Could you please elaborate?
@@pmstorm taking a guess he was going towards the it's not all sunshine and bikinis ala a lot of youtube "sailing" channels
Ah those fun rogue waves. I was hit with a 20+footer while i was on watch.
My sailboat was a 25 footer.
I cant wait to be on the oceans again
Wow! 😲
Madi, someone’s probably already said this, but I had once suffered badly, I now use acupressure ‘sea bands’ these interrupt the balance signals in my hands, along with that I tell my self not to tense up and move with the boat, hope this helps, love your videos
I’ve tried and they unfortunately don’t work for me 😞
I know that we are seeing what happened long ago and you are past all the headaches of the passage. I just hope that you will have a great time in the med and the next long passage you make will be a lot more fun. All the best
It does get much better! Our sail from northern Portugal to southern Portugal was much more enjoyable :)
Glad you are both safe!
IT IS A miracle you can take seas and all gear stays in place. that dodger is tied down well ........ Sailboats are wonderful happy people.
You guys are unique. Very good videos.
Thank you!!
Think backto thedays of the ICW and how your challenges then stack up against your challenges of the North Atlantic. Pretty amazing effort...kudos to you guys.
Thanks!
Rogue waves are wacky. Years ago I was on an oil tanker headed from Valdez, Alaska to US west coast. Sunny day, 8 to 12 knots of wind 2 foot seas. Out of no where a 17 foot wave broke over the deck. We were loaded with oil, so freeboard was 13ish feet, so about 4 feet of solid sea water washed over the rail.
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Great job. I love the info on your electric motor.
I was not certain that was you guys but then The P.J. said yes You guys are great.
Suffering ennobles a man,
Enduring the oyster-shell’s prison makes a pearl of a water-drop
How long will you live, or run after Being or Non-Being?
A life so dogged by sorrow
Is best spent in sleep or drunkenness
--Omar Khayyam
Yeah, so says the tent maker. How about Omar the Sail Maker?
Hi, Herby, We were thinking of installing dyneema and everything that goes with it. But my hubby, Dave, is thinking for lightning he'd like to keep one metal, for instance the backstay, to take the lightning down from the mast. He'll put a lightning diffuser up the mast, and one metal stay going to the stern. There he'd put in metal down to the water and have a big copper plate down there. Do you think this would work?
Laurie
Honestly, lightning strikes are rare and the damage is variable. The most common thing is the electronics in the boat fry, the worst outcome is the boat gets a hole burned into it below the waterline.
We have a lightning diffuser mounted on our keel and the mast itself is grounded to it by a big cable. The boat came with the system, so I assume the previous owner had confidence in it.
As for keeping a single stay steel to bring the charge down to the water, the mast itself will be a big conductor. Having a metal stay will help share the immense amount of energy rushing through. The backstay or headstay are good candidates for this job.
Welcome to my world lol!
Hope The Algarve is treating you well. I meant to say before - when you go to Cadiz you might like to take a trip up the Guadalquivir to Seville - it's an amazing city with a rich history, not least as the setting off point for one Ferdinand Magellan...
Ohhh is there a train or something that goes there? We may need to rent a car...
@@RiggingDoctor I'm pretty sure the river is navigable all the way. At Seville the river has been diverted and the original course has been locked off at the southern end. You can go through the lock and to within a mile or so of the town.
My parents live in Loulé in the Algarve. Really is one of my top three places on earth. Enjoy! Seville is beautiful too!
Oh my, I am glad you all are safe! What an intense video!
Keep on keep’n on...safe passage...
No doubt that the North Atlantic is a tough passage. Seems to much like work. I bet your glad that you don't have a long list of things to fix. Porto will be wonderful.
It’s nice that now the list of projects is “cleaning” instead of “building”
Showing it how it is, fantastic 😊
Which is so hard to do, when we are in intense situations we seldom think "wait grab the camera!"
@@sailingavocet I don't think that would be my first choice,can't wait till I get my next boat and get out into the ocean
@@Sailingon HECK YAH! Maybe we will share an anchorage with you someday :) cheers!
I wouldn’t mind meeting up with you guys in the future :)
Where are you guys at the moment?
I’d take this crossing over sitting on the hard any time! What time of year and route was the previous crossing you enjoyed so well?
Forgive me if that info’s in a previous video, I just came across your channel this morning. Will take me a bit to catch up.
The previous crossing was June and July 2018 :)
Wow!!! Just found you...Liked and subbed.....you both, (if I may say) have Balls of Steel.....right on !!
Your boat sounds like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. ⛵️🛸⚓️🧜🏻♂️🧜🏽♀️
Oh dear and I feel for you. Happened to us during the summer too. 10 gallons of saltwater down the hatch locked in the slightly open position. Landed on the wife and the puppy you painted for us last winter. The water splashed off the table and soaked the tv which then went puff when we switched it on later that night. They don't tell you about this stuff when you walk around the boatshows, wonder why not.
Oh no!!! Yeah we didn’t even try to have a tv onboard haha. Adventure is challenge and reward....but sometimes more challenge than anticipated
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Just found you guys I know I'm going to love your channel just sub, I'm a scuba diver snorkler and love cruise ships. Thanks for sharing sincerely Adventures of David and Aaron.⚓⚓⚓
Welcome to the adventure!!
@@RiggingDoctor thank you for sharing your adventures.⚓⚓⚓
Always good to have cans of Dinty Moore on board!!! Better than Spam!
Haven’t tried that brand, where do they sell it?
For your viewers information, 150 watts equals 0.2 Horse Power, 10X less than the Outboard motor you have on your stern rail. Are the deck mounted solar panels work? I see the STB panel covered with ropes, that one is surely not performing much? Loosing 2 knots while engaging the regen appears high, especially when you have sufficient wind to drive the boat at 7 knots!!! I was using a Tow generator and was losing max 1/2 knot at 6Knots. At 3 knots of boat speed, the tow generator had stopped completely producing energy. Have you left Porto and are you on your way to Lisbon? Cheers, Richard
We did leave Porto and are headed to Cadiz tomorrow! More to come about your other comments :)
We often joke that we should drop the outboard into the water because it would give more push than the inboard!
Only the port panel is hooked up. We needed to use the stb charge controller for the stern panel setup.
That panel is just waiting for the port panel to die so that it can get wired up.
I'm new to your channel, so please forgive rookie question.... I'm sure your boat doesn't have air conditioning, but do you have a heater on board?? How are the temps in your cabin?
We have air conditioning but it needs to be plugged into shore power to work. For heat, we have a diesel heater which works very well to keep the cabin warm in the winter :)
Yes the rougue waves are pain and mean the doors and port holes all must be closed . That is hard when it hot. very hard to stop boat when it surfs down waves and risks to break things or worse broach .
Congratulations.. now you know why experienced cruisers don't leave the companionway open. The weather doesn't even need to be "bad" for rogue waves to occur. They can rise up out of a pretty calm sea. Keep the companionway closed on passage, and if ventilation is a problem, fit more/better dorades.
We have looked into adding more dorade vents, but then we decided to just try and avoid those kinds of seas. We sure did keep it shut after that!!
@@RiggingDoctor - Heh.. avoiding those kinds of seas works, right up until the day it doesn't. Sooner or later, you *always* get caught out..
What lovely people you guys are! Fair winds :-)
Thank you!
What a HORRIBLE wake-up call! Fortunately rogue waves aren't common (although IIRC, you got hit by one during a storm). And I wasn't thinking of the salt acting like a wick. Ugh! Hope you are less than a day from landfall. Ugh! still 5 days (or more) out!
Prolly shouldn't make the comment since I can't be there, but I'm remembering my own seasickness episodes, and horrible conditions, and wish I were with you: it's ALL sailing, and the toughest times are dear because they underscore how wonderful the good times are.
Too true, Sean! It’s easy to forget that when you’re wet and puking though hahaha
Yet another great episode, loved it! Steady on mateys...
Your further north than I expected you would sail. Cold air and water up there and you must be getting wnw winds pushing you south east. Those rogue waves are never a welcome sight. At first I thought you took it over the stern and filled the cockpit. At least is wasn't as bad as the last one. As you get south it should warm up and be more sunny for you. Happy sailing.
We had to follow the winds but it was far too cold up there!
Your experience of being able to use your electric engine in regen mode as an efficient "down-wave break" comparable to a series drouge is really interesting. How far from your stern would you estimate your prop is located? In the recent Golden globe single handled round the world ""race", my understanding is the few boats that were not knocked down by waves used something like series drouges although of different constructions. To try to meet storm conditions by heaving to was fundamentally unsuccessful. So your experience is really interesting. On what level was electricity regenerated?
Good luck ahead!
It works very well. I have never used a series drogue but I have read about them extensively!
The prop is about 10-11 feet forward of the transom.
When sailing above 5 knots or in a storm where it holds us back, we generate around 4-6 amps at 48v. This becomes 16-24 amps at 12v!
In a storm, we will still be booking it at around 5-7 knots instead of 8-9 knots, but with so much more comfort and control.
We have a diesel electric propulsion system on our catamaran and only really use regen for slowing the boat down to a more comfortable speed. Generally, we would rather use our generator occasionally to charge the batteries than suffer the loss of speed from using regen.
I’m right there with you. So often we view it as dragging the voyage out by an additional day just for a few amps.
Is there some sort of relatively accurate z-axis logger/tracker? Meaning, something that will track your rise and fall and get close to tracking wave heights? Might be kind of fun to see that some days, like your overnight rogue wave.
Not that I know of. But rogue waves don’t pick us up, they just come straight over us!
@@RiggingDoctor oh. Gotcha. That's a shame. I can imagine all the nerd cruisers having a pow wow over a camp fire, while one Captain says to the other, " we took 20'ers on the beam, and I slept through it because I'm so salty!".
Then he gets his Z log.
They were 3-5'ers.
Everyone laughs.
I ask, "how big was the fish you caught again?"
I reckon I'm one of those nerd sailors 🤓
best start in the day... salty showers ;)
Interesting use of regen as a brake. I wish I had the funds and interior space to install a parallel electric drive.
You should share your experience with UMA sailing who has just completed their first atlantic crossing without severe conditions of sea.......
Where did u set sail from and when? What route did u take? Biscay or gave it a wide birth?
We set sail from Angra do Heroismo in Terceira, Azores. From there we sailed due north until we reached 44*40’N 27*46’W. Then onto 47*23’N 18*00’W. Then onto 44*07’N 10*47’W. Then we sailed into port.
We got pretty close to England and Ireland but we kept well away from the Bay of Biscay!
His is the kind of life my father always imagined
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It’s a pretty sweet life! No stress and no complaints ⛵️
Don't worry the sea turns blue again once you're past Gib, not sure where you are in real time but you must be somewhere close to there?
I was wondering the same thing!
We are heading for Cadiz, Spain tomorrow from our anchorage here in Algarve! Real-time pictures and updates on Instagram and Facebook 😊🤗
Where are you guys at the moment? Have you made it to your winter marina?
@@RiggingDoctor Yes we're in Cartagena, love it here. When we went through we anchored in Rota rather than Cadiz as the winds were from the North and it's quite sheltered. You can still get to Cadiz easily on the ferry that runs from the Marina in Rota if you want a day trip there. (its worth a visit!) Steve
Hello I just visit Brindisi, and Fumicino, is a must visit in the Mediterranean. Nice video looking for the next saludos
We will soon be coming into Spanish waters ;)
@@RiggingDoctor hello you will love Spain the land of jamon Iberico and turron de jijona y Alicante. Glad you having a great time. Saludos
Forgive the length of string question - BUT, lol. In your professional guesstimate opinion, how long would you expect to get out of a cruising mainsail etc on a live aboard boat about the size of your own, driven moderately, not like a mad man....much as yourself. I love the idea of reefing by the angle of heel. cruising, not racing.
We are hoping to get a good 10 years out of our current mainsail.
He’s currently 2 years old and just starting to stretch in the luff. We will be putting a Cunningham on him shortly to get plenty more years out of him!
@@RiggingDoctor Thanks and thx for the quick reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When underway put the companionway boards in.
We close up completely when winds are above 30 knots or a large (more than 15 feet) following sea.
WHY WAS THE HATCH OPEN OVER 2-3 FEET my hatch is closed. and i am just off shore. it could have been a bigger wave.
Offshore we batten down all the hatches but the companionway stays open until the winds get up to 30 knots. At that point, splashes can get inside.
We keep it open to get some airflow in the boat. It gets too stuffy to keep it all closed up.
@@RiggingDoctor i like you and enjoy your channel.
Rigging Doctor a few gallons of saltwater this time sounds like an opportunity for growth. We’d much prefer that air bubble in your hull isn’t compromised in any way
I have some suggestions: Is the time of year actually when you post? Could you explain how the wind vane thing works?
The videos are about 3 months behind. For real-time updates, you can follow us on Facebook and instagram ☺️. Here’s an old episode where we explained how the monitor works:
th-cam.com/video/q3d7jj-3yIQ/w-d-xo.html
I have been out on the Solent in a Force 6 did not like it much glad when I got back to dry land
No one likes bad weather!
Just curious.... Did you happen to contact the sailboats you encountered? What were their names? Nice video, sorry you got wet! Hopefully, the remaining passage went better than the first part.
I don’t remember their names but they were all English and heading up to England from the Mediterranean.
Clip a GoPro on a rail and just let it record. No monologue or music. Just everyday sailing raw and uncut. Ive seen a few other people do that, Christian Williams, Sailing Uma just to name a couple. Might even catch a rough wave in the footage as well. Just a request that all.
We heard about Uma’s. It’s a good idea, but our cameras aren’t as fancy as theirs and I’m afraid the wind noise would be unbearable. Nevertheless, perhaps we will try it in the Med.
Great video! Look to see (not experience) a rogue wave, sorry you all did!
Any chance at some point you could explain the whole concept of 'hull speed'?
We can do a video on hull speed to explain it better.
Basically, it’s the maximum speed of the boat. Longer hull, higher speed; shorter boat, shorter speed.
@@RiggingDoctor OK, well I kinda understand that but I've also read that some boats are very capable of exceeding their hull speed by up to 100% as in the case of performance kayaks? I don't pretend to understand, hence my question....!? Thank you for the reply, hope I'm not a rogue question! :)
SPAM AND EGGS!! 5 Star dining on the open sea.
Yeah, you're not the first cruiser to get swamped by a rogue wave in the last two weeks. Most of them (about 3) lost a lot of valuable electronics because of them.I feel bad for you's. There's only one defence from them and thats just keep the windows and hatches closed, and just open and close them as you go in and out of the salon. I wish you could set up the radar to detect them enough to give you 30 seconds to give you a fighting chance. (Maybe one day) You'll just have to put up with stuffy salon if you want to stay nice and dry. You're stuck between a stuffy and a swamped place ! Cheers
Haha oh so true!!
What kind of ship/boat do you sail on an if you can specify how much is one in the US
It’s a 1968 Morgan 45. I bought her for $19,500 in 2012, then spent 5 years rebuilding her for our Cruising Life.
I wouldn’t wait the five years working like we did. As soon as she’s ready to sail, get going! You will always be working on her as you go so you might as well get going sooner :)
@@RiggingDoctor thank you and safe travels.
Maddie would you paint and sell tiles similar to what you did on your boat?
Yes! Absolutely.
What is safer a motor yacht or a sail boat
I would say a sailboat because they are ballasted and will upright themselves if they get flipped.
I am also watching the daily blog from Uma which is also crossing to Europe. But I know the effect of rogue waves. I have a 54ft mast on my Trimaran and have shipped one that went at least half way up the mast, it came over the port fwd quarter.. I was in 8 to 10ft seas on a reach with double reef on the main and mini storm sail on the head. You never hear them coming.
Ohhh Trimarans are sooo cool! They are my favorite hull type!
@@RiggingDoctor I designed and built the trimaran myself and since it does not have wing decks (all accommodation in center hull) it's as safe as. I just have netting between the hulls.
I’ll bet she flies! Very awesome.
@@RiggingDoctor , 40ft main hull length, 28ft total beam, 2 ft draft on main hull and no brakes. Maximum speed reach since her launch 32.5 knots on a downwind reach in 4 to 6 ft swells. She was fully loaded then and 9 days into a 45 day passage. Not funny when your solo.
Robert that is incredible! In one hour you covered what takes us a good part of the day to reach!
Trimarans are awesome!!
I have plans, well at this point lets call them dreams, of going cruising the world in a sailboat. But since I found about rogue waves, I will be honest, I am having second thoughts.
(From my ignorance) it just seems like flipping a coin. I don't see how one of those humongous waves breaking on the beam will not capsize a sailboat or even (in the worst case) sink it. And this in the middle of the ocean.
If I were on my own, screw it I would do it. But with family? it makes me rethink the whole thing.
I totally understand that. The huge 90 foot rogue waves are incredibly rare. Honestly, most that you’ll come across are just slightly larger waves traveling in a different direction from all the others. They take you by surprise and may get you wet, but aren’t dangerous.
Just subbed! Nice Channel. What type of boat do you sail?
welcome aboard! She’s a Morgan 45 from 1968
@@RiggingDoctor nice!!!
hi, I'm from Chile and don't speak English, I follow your videos but I have to ask for help to translate what you say, so could you
have the subtitles on spanish please?
Buenas, yo voy a ver qué puedo hacer para que salen en español.
I want to as soon as my kids are 18 I’m outta here lol
in your other vid you said you rarely used your autopilot ?
The autopilot in this video is our wind steering. We never use our electric autopilot and actually removed it recently.
@@RiggingDoctor ahhhh
Clocking around, I believe, is clockwise on the compass, wind moving from E to NE would be veering.
Very good point! When wind shifts around (clockwise or counterclockwise) I always refer to it as “clocking around” with no regard for which way it’s going to be changing!
I will look into it so that I don’t miss speak again!
@@RiggingDoctor right on. I could be wrong too :) happens all the time
That’s one thing I’ve learned: when you are sure of something, double check it!
On the English shipping forecast they would talk about the wind veering and backing . Clockwise and anti clockwise respectively ......since we only got the 5 minute forecast every 6 hours you had to learn the terms!
I don't think you are going to get very good wind in the med in the summer, but less waves and a lot of sun so maybe have to practice that slow motoring. Cheers Warren
@@CheersWarren Glad you came along! Learn something new every day.
Never seen brown sales before. Interesting.
When we got our new sails, we didn’t want white because we would look like every other boat out there!
The color is called “tanbark” because they are not just one color. Depending on the light, they are red, brown, orange, or purple! All depends on how the light hits it 😉
Its hard to believe 150 watts of solar power, and it’s probably less than that on a cloudy day, will generate more milage toward your destination your sails, even if the sails don’t give you a direct course.
The panels keep the batteries charged, the sails make us move forward :) if we try it the other way, we are quickly reminded of this fact.
We frequently get asked about doing such a thing and we decided to test it out and see the results. Not much speed!
Mmm...spam n' eggs - summertime cruising fare!
Poor thing she looked so miserable!
One consideration in constantly using your electric motor is that batteries have lifespans. Depending on dozens of different factors, lithium-ion batteries start losing their capacity anywhere from 200-2000 full charge cycles. 600 is typical for something like a laptop, Tesla advertises about 1,500 charge cycles. (to maintain 80% original capacity).
So, if you constantly use your battery, every hour you are draining it, then charging it, is a small percentage of your batteries lifespan that you are using. Not to say it isn't worth it. You should look up specifications for your battery, and manufacturers recommendations. I am by no means an expert.
Our lead acid batteries were a few hundred cycles. Pretty pathetic figure actually…
The new lifepo4 cells we installed have a cycle life of 3000 80% cycles. If we keep the cycles shallower than 50%, it jumps up to 8000 cycles!
They will all wear out in time and when they do something far better will exist to replace them.
Can you explain the purpose of the block on the staysail?
It makes the staysail self tacking. The sail shape isn’t perfect though, so for longer tacks we then use the regular sheets.
Rigging Doctor, slick idea for short tacking up a river! I’ll have to try that. Thanks!
That is exactly when we use it! Once we get into open water we raise the jib and sail properly, but in tight quarters, not having to mess with sheets is a huge advantage!
You haven't seen UMA? 😁
They were a few crests behind us 🤪
When was this? I'm new here👍
And yes Porto is nice.
This was late June. We arrived in mainland Portugal on July 1, 2019.
Oporto wine is waiting you, it is time to arrive 😧
So what kind of boat do you have how long is it
1968 Morgan 45
Why do you guys look so cramped then? Lol
Because the beam is 11 feet
Put some more sails up. !
We do when the conditions are right. Our sail around Portugal was done under full sail the whole way!
What make is windy?
Monitor Windvane by Scanmar (made in California, USA)
Feeling 1040
Get yourself a diesel! All that range anxiety will go away.
After having crossed an ocean and made it safely to the other side, we don’t have range anxiety.
We view ourselves as engineless with a docking helper attached to our propeller.
As i understand it a rogue wave is usually made up of swell and wind waves peaking at the same place and forming a wave of the combined height of both of them...sometimes it can be swell1 and swell2 plus wind wave peaks all at the same place. For this reason you must always point the correct direction...avoiding taking a rogue on your beam and possibly capsizing you. But my knowledge is not very extensive so i welcome any more advice on this topic. cheers
Wow, I've been wondering about rogue waves. You don't have hot water for a shower? Don't eat spam and eggs...please, spam is gross.
Just subscribed
We have hot water, but we need to boil water in a teapot first. It takes a while to prepare and we were in a rush, so cold showers it was that way we could get the boat desalted!
@@RiggingDoctor
Oh, okay. What about one of those shower heads that electrically heats the water before it comes out?
That would require more electricity than we have, unfortunately. Sounds magical though!
Just found you , you have an electric motor that’s very interesting
Welcome to the adventure! We sure do. Makes for a lot of pure sailing :)
How afraid of being rolled over by a rogue wave that not only rolls your boat over, but breaks off your mast and fills your boat with water?
Not really. The reason our boat is so low and flat is so that if a wave comes over it, the wave just passes by without transferring much energy to the boat.
We have had a ton of waves and no issues like that.
This wasn't your most enjoyable passage, was it.
You’re catching on...haha
❤️⭐️🅰️➕💯👍👏. Your not crazy.
Thank you for the interesting video. This was my first video of yours i have watched.
Liked...Subbed...Rang Da bell
Welcome aboard, Bill!
Batton the hatches and sail on
Rogue wave could be from another ship’s wake.
It’s true! But wakes come in 3s and there weren’t any boats within 30 miles.
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