Tales From The Green Valley - October (part 2 of 12)
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- In this BBC documentary series we get to follow a small group of historians and archeologists as they recreate farm life from the age of the Stuarts. They wear the clothes, eat the food and use the tools, skills and technology of the 1620's for one year.
The second episode continues througout October and it's time for gathering pears, getting the cowshed's roof rafters ready for thatching with a bracken undercoat and a wheat thatch and driving the pigs to the forage.
I said it once, or maybe twice, but it is worth repeating. I really appreciate the respect they show for the people at that time. Never ever this smarmy "oh we know better now" attitude.
It's always worth remembering that someone in the future will eventually be saying the same thing about us.
History classes always leave out the chemistry and science behind why people did what they did, like using urine to wash laundry.
They are historians so they must have great respect for old ways.
Take most people's phone away under 35 and well they are like a child lost alone in the woods.
If someone doesn't know you, it really doesn't matter how many times you've said something. You didnt exist to us before now.
I learned from this the origins of the term 'windfall.' (apples that are already down). I have watched this, Victorian Farm, Edwardian Farm, Wartime Farm, and the castle in France, I've grown SO attached to Alex, Peter, and Ruth!
same here. I really enjoy these series
I feel the same way. Peter, Ruth and Alex are so personable and relatable,
they feel like friends.
yeah.... these guys are already legends, and I think they should have their website or even do more old era-related farm documentaries
Alex, peter and Ruth make it look so ancient and more astonishing.. Love them
Same, I cherish them and all their work. ❤️ You must watch them in the Tudor Farm series!!
We will never know the names of those who came before but figured out the clever crafts that got our ancestors one more winter through, but I feel closer to them watching this. Thank you, ancestors. Thank you for posting as well. ❤
I love these. Anyone else feel like going out and tending and weeding the garden??
This is my third time around watching every series. After a long break between watching, I will never get tired of them.
Yep, that's what I was doing all afternoon.
No thanks Dee. I'd rather put my feet up in front of the telly. But you crack on love.
What I love about these series (besides this one there are four or five more) is how, by showing the every day life, they cover so many details about life in those times. I've always, always wanted to know that part of history. Great moments are all well and good, but what was it like to live then? That's why I love these and could watch them over and over. Thank you, Ruth, Alex, Fonz (Peter) and all who worked on these productions. Now, if only this could be done for all the cultures all over the world. Wouldn't that be amazing?
In re-watching this, I also find it interesting to include a child in this episode. It reminds us that children commonly worked/helped from the age of 5 or 6... basically, as soon as they were able to follow instructions. Now most consider this barbaric. Possibly. But this explains how people could allow children that young to work in factories when the industry developed... because the thinking was very similar. I am not saying children should work at that age or not. Although, I do remember when my children were young, they were always eager to help. What I mean is, I almost think it is natural for children to help and be employed in some way. I even wonder if, because we don't allow it and send them to school instead, much of our societal problems begin with this division.
Wow, I love these series! This is my third time (if not more) to watch these series, all of them! We request more, cannot get enough of showing how our ancestors lived and thrived! Much love for the sacrifice to those who participated, you've given us a gift! Thank You!
I've watched every one of them many times myself. I so very wish there were more.
I keep chickens & if you hatch young chickens around march, they will lay around end of summer beginning of Autumn.
If you hatch them around late summer, they will late throughout winter.
Giving you a year of eggs. I do it this way. So I know it works. today is the 3rd/12th and the early birds have knocked off, but the later birds are still laying. picked 7 eggs up today
This kind of dedication is required to really make a name in a field as literary as history. 😊Beautiful
This also shows the passion these people have for their country and its history.
I've watched all the historic farm series over the last few weeks and ended up watching this one last. My brain cannot get over Peter going by "Fonz". I'm cracking up every time they say it. 😂
That thatchwork is incredible. I have always been astonished by the artistry involved - it wears so well, uses a natural resource and looks pretty good too
fully agree with everything you said
I’d find a way to save the pigs. We don’t eat bacon her or pork here lol
Don’t like it.
@@elizabetha2601 I love both so I'll eat double for you. 😉😇
Dry basically straw roof open fire indoors what could possibly go wrong? Maybe that's why slate became so popular for those that could afford it.
A tip for harvesting fruit: You have to use your own body weight, meaning you cling to the staff, hook it on a branch and then let yourself sink to your knees. The the other person needs something to stand on like a bit of tree trunk from just above the stump to pick the fruit.
Up in the apple loft, Ruth in her head covering looks amazingly like Vermeer's "Girl with a pearl earring"
I had not even noticed..... what a coincidence
This is my fifth series with Ruth Goodman and Peter Ginn and I'm sorry but I have to raise an enormous complaint, why aren't there a hundred more .😢
Yep. My husband complains that I keep watching these series over and over again....
Who could have imagined that farming was this advanced 400 years ago...... It's fascinating really
indeed
The skills they used are amazing
Thank you so much for posting this series. It's my second time watching and I love it just as much.
Lorelei Elkins I love it too! I think I've watched it 2 or 3 times myself! The whole historical farming series is fascinating!
Son and I have been building waddle fencing . Its great to get something useful out of what we and others use to consider waste wood.
wattle fencing
I simply adore that you did this with your son. I am planning to create a waddle fence myself.
I prefer WATDLE. 😉
Spelling was never my strong suit. Without autocorrect I'd be lost. If it's an uncommon word I have to start using it in a sentence with google till I get it rite.
Pacing yourself..that's why they worked all day in the house and out but geez they exhaust me just watching one big job😂❤
Pigs, the world's most useful creature and the most uncooperative! (Former farmer.)
I love this series. I saw it before but a few years back now. So am enjoying them all over again. Hard work in those times, definitely team work.
Team work indeed
I love Ruth she inspiration for me
This is absolutely amazing! I have loved watching every minute of this!
I love this series! Thank you for posting.
Wool spun 'in the grease' is waterproof. It seems likely that people from 400-500 years ago were aware of that, and in a rainy climate like the British Isles, would have had waterproof wool for rainy days.
Without the harsh chemicals used today to 'scour' the lanolin completely out of wool, there may well have been enough residual lanolin, aka 'wool grease' in the wool of their regular garments to make them more water resistant than the program indicates.
Absolutely. Anyone who has spun from the fleece knows about lanolin. In one of the other FARM series
Peter uses pig's grease to sooth his hands after some rough work. Just before this scene is a scene of some
sleep wandering by. Shepherds always had soft hands.
I also can't imagine why they wouldn't have some sort of poncho/hooded overcoat that they could wear. There's historical illustration of the pestilent doctors going about in what look like hooded raincoats made of animal hide. If kept well lubricated, then what this guy tells us makes no sense.
He said they were shower proof. Not waterproof. Wool is not waterproof no matter what its coated with if its pissing it down all day.
A traditional Irish bratach or cloak was spun with the lanolin left in. The English found Ireland hard to conquer, before the advent of modern firearms, because they weren't dressed for the climate.
Greased leather over wool is more waterproof but no one wore it?
a heritage pig breed is the red Tamsworth from early times... "Root, hog, or die" was a common phrase from colonial America where pigs were let loose to fend for themselves in the woods/forest surrounding the farms to fatten up before the late fall, early winter slaughter where they used everything but the squeal
5:45...🚀🌱🥗The English common name Salade "rocket" derives from the Italian word Ruchetta or rucola, a diminutive of the Latin word eruca....Arugula (/əˈruːɡələ/), the common name now widespread in the United States and Canada, entered American English from a non-standard dialect of Italian.
I had no idea rocket and arugula were etymologically related--fascinating!
I love this! Now I wish I could get my husband to live like this.
the ingenuity of farmers of your always amaze me.
These are such wonderful shows, I absolutely adore them. I so admire and envy the people who work and kind of live in these period places. Actually I know I couldn’t do this stuff myself, I’m far to lazy and used to reaching for my mod cons, however it does seem so idyllic and peaceful.
They somehow ease my anxiety in a way little else does
I am starting a waddle fence have not finished yet it takes a while to do this alone.I love this series
*wattle
WADTLE.🤭
Keith is such a craftsman, you can really tell he knows his trade and it just shows in the final quality of the thatching he has created. Where i live we have quite a few thatched roofs and you really appreciate the workmanship that goes into it. I also thank god i don't have a thatched roof (as lovely as it looks) just due to the maintenance it takes to up keep it and keep it waterproof.... Listed property? No thankyou..... despite how nice they look, we have moved on and for good reason, but i do love and appreciate the old way of doing things i.e. cooking and such.
These are wonderful. Thank you for uploading!
I don't have the physicality for any of this. I can dream though, I can dream.
I so understand that. But if I could find a way to get my walker out there I might give it a go. 😉 LL
@@Laura-Lee I'd be with you,
A little at a time, you may not make it all the way to that level, but a little is okay.
No surprise considering your name
I love these series🥰
did they somehow get a kid from the Stuart era, how many modern kids would act like that if a 300 pound pig ran off, he was straight in after it he even grabbed its tail then the loud clear calls to his fellows as to what is going on, im impressed,my own kids and grandkids would have taken off the opposite way[and me at that age]
the kid probably grew up on the countryside and knew instinctively what to do. I have grown up in the countryside as a young kid in the 80s and I have reacted the same as this kid. When I have been 10 years old I would drive the goats to pastures daily along with my same-age cousin, we would also veggie gardening, milk the goats, tend to our grandmother's daily chores and so many more. I am not really the hard-working type, but my grandma and cousin have been this type and they'd automatically pull me in with their abnegation and passion. Believe it or not, my cousin (which is a guy) would cook at 9-10 years of age. He had often baked bread in stone oven, and had cooked meat rolls covered in cabbage sheet, and cooked soup, and built a barn for the animals and many other things and yes, at THAT age. He's one of those rare people on earth who are born under the curse of continuous work. They are doomed to never find rest and peace unless they work every hour of their existence. Even today (he lives 50 meters away from me) whenever there's a party thrown by his wife or he and his wife are making a BBQ and are inviting us over to their house he's doing most of the work in the house. We sometimes play cards and barely manage to convince him to join us and in the rare instances he does join us he's snoring within 40-50 seconds as he's too tired from all of the work he's doing continuously since he's been born. But, if we shake him to wake him and tell him "Cristi, can you help us paint our house tomorrow?" As soon as he hears that there's work for him he's fresh as new, all sleepiness down the drain, and in the next 5 seconds he's in the basement of his house preparing the tools for tomorrow's job. He really is a cursed guy in what concerns me....
But anyway, that's not the point I was trying to make. The point is that me and my cousin, and many other people who have been young kids in communist Romania in the 80s have done the same as the kid in this clip. Caring for the livestock and poultry and gardening and wetting the plants, sometimes even cooking had been very common in those years for young kids like us, boys or girls. And if the kid in this video had grown up in the countryside he, too, would know what to do in various circumstances that you have no idea what to do.
It's Stuart's kid.
Every time I hear the term "cow shed" the chorus to "I am a cider drinker" starts running through my head. (Cor! I never smelled nothin' like it in all of me life)
thanks for posting i really do love these videos i must have watched them about 20 times they are so fascinating x
Interesting, watching some muscle accumulating onto these scholastic types.
I'm a bit surprised that Stewart with all his 'we should have&they did' in 1600+)hasn't gotten 'the Rock arms' 15+yrs he's been there like his boy enjoying the group
♥️😁🇬🇧 fantastic post. Thank you.
Can't imagine how painful those shoes must have been!! To think they had to do such hard work with your feet killing you!!
The reason the mutton shoulder was tough was because he didn’t have the right temperature for the coals. He used them when they were way too hot. Low and slow. Just like barbecue.
In 1620 ,they wouldn’t have known about BBQ .
i really like flute music here
Great stories. I love all series of "Farm".
Why don't they make shows like this anymore instead of another dating show??
Thank you.
She sweeps the hell out of the clean floor.
I wonder how many hands you would really need to keep a farm like that going. The more hands the more food you have to grow which means you need more hands to grow more food. Is it any wonder that the human population was so low. There must be the point in which the calories you eat could not be got by your labor. Someone is going to starve and I bet it happened all the time. Children mortality must have been shocking, and just keeping a child alive would have been difficult. Everyone in the 21st century would do well to know how good we have it. We never even think about getting food and that is all they thought about before the technology.
She pinched out the arugula flowers but they would have needed to let it go to seed to sew the following year! They would have been seed savers as well as farmers, I imagine!
She could let them go to seed in a couple of weeks...or, I should say, they WILL go to seed again.
The framework for the cow shed roof is modern commercial lumber. Obviously not authentic, but IMO a wise choice.
The shoes and boots that are made the same are suppose to be rotated every day so that you have even ware.
'supposed'
'Wear'
@Sheila T. Apparently, they are desperately needed.
Apparently not so much. It seems that people did indeed wear their shoes into left and right shoes. American Duchess talk about this and reference period sources talking about right and left shoes from a time when shoes were originally made neutral.
@@adorabell4253 Random but pointe shoes that ballet dancers wear are the same - they're just made as two same shoes and then as you wear it (because the inside is made of essentially paper mache) they adjust into lefts and rights. I can't imagine wearing them on the wrong foot because it just feels wrong, and if I were to rotate them I'd actually wear them out faster, because the parts that need strength on one foot if I rotated shoes would be where it needs to be softer for the other foot, and then that'd be the end of them. Of course, leather is more forgiving than silk, canvas, and paper, but even still...
How did they keep mice and other critters from eating the harvested fruits kept in the attic?
5:50 In German it is 'Rauke' and nobody wanted it, than it came back as rucola...... 😆
The brackens appear very different when thatching
Are those ten-penny nails I see in the rafters of the cow shed? Still a wonderful job!
Cloe is dressed like Peter when hauling the bracken
what a peaceful life back then
Well... it was peaceful as long as there was peace in the land ( and such periods were few and far apart) and in between the visits of the tax collectors and the tithe collectors, who had the right to take (by force) what they "perceived" was appropriate and had the right to punish "disobedience" by means that they then again believed to be the "appropriate" means and amount of force. If you couldn't make the payments the Lord and the Church representatives could torture, maim, or kill you or throw you into slavery (and as a villein or serf you were hardly a rung above that as it were, because at those times the Lord owned not just the land but also you) and give the piece of land to a new serf. You needed the Lord's permission if you wanted to get married and then the Lord could come in on the day of your wedding and demand his right of prima nocta and anyone who struggled or protested could be flogged or killed on the spot. When a war was on, all the able-bodied men got drafted to go fight for their lord (no exceptions or excuses). If the army was passing through, you had to give them all they demanded, if they were on "your side" of the war. If they were the enemy, they would just raid your farm, rape and kill the women and take everything they wanted. The same goes for deserters from both sides.
Until it wasn’t.
@@r8p6 What you're describing is feudal society, not the Renaissance or the 1620s, which is the time depicted here.
I would have been dead from infection...no doctors back then.
@@spazmonkey3815 They had doctors. They just weren’t very good and were few and far between.
ach.. the good time, when we, the kids, was allowed to climb the trees...^^
We had an old butternut tree in the front yard by the rural road we lived by in rural Pennsylvania, USA. My brothers and I loved climbing it. I used to take a book up and sit in one of the more comfortable crooks and read for hours.
It would have been even nicer if they had their guests joined them for dinner.
Hooman: "In a few weeks, we are gonna slaughter them."
Pigs: Lets get the fuck out!
if only they thought that way... I am not a vegetarian yet (I could give up eating meat at any point, though) so I do eat pork, but this doesn't mean that I don't feel sorry for pigs... and other animals and poultry in general. I absolutely LOVE fauna, and I suffer for any slight discomfort they're enduring, so go figure what I feel about slaughtering them to satisfy our insensitive and greedy bellies
17th century glasses on John???
Should've tied that collar back to the horses saddle band
Nice Modern spoon bit auger ;)
The pace and attention everything gets is really a nice thing that a lot of people miss out on in modern life. If you must then in my idea, it's ok to eat a pig, but to talk about how you re looking forward to that, while petting it, is just disrespectful.
a old shoulder of lamb he cooked would of been skewered with lardons without a doubt, rendering the cut much more tender. PS you slaughtered it not killed it, you kill an animal when you hit it with your car, but for consumption its slaughtered
...would *HAVE* ...
How can you eat an animal you have named and made a fuss of. I guess I wouldn’t have fared too well in those days.
Same, makes me sad. I'd absolutely be vegetarian if I had to see my food alive...
@@morrigan191 If you feel that way, you should probably go vegetarian regardless. But back then, it only made sense to do SOMETHING with aging farm animals that had outlived their other purposes, especially considering lack of much else to eat in winter.
One bite at a time.
Believe me, it's just the way you grew up. If you'd live in this time, you would not just eat them you would also slaughter them.
You wouldn't have had these thoughts back then. People thought different. This was the way of life for them. Animals were just food... They didn't think they had feelings or emotions or anything like that... It's us these days that have the options and choices. But not back then..
I wonder who was that kid that was accompanying them
@Nora, he's Stuart's son.
Did they have screw augers like that back then?
Was Stuart in the movie Rob Roy?
How did they keep rodents out of the apple loft?
Maybe they kept cats around?
Cats
Unless they had cats or boys who were good with a slingshot, they didn’t. One of the biggest challenges in life of this era was keeping vermin out of food, clothing, and bedding.
I am surprised they didn't dry any of those apples. Perhaps that came at a later year?
Since I am mainly dealing with Los Angeles temperatures when speaking of freezing, cold, mild and hot, hat would a usual cold tempo be in end of Ict beginning of November? 45F?
Did farmers at that time eat beet greens while the beets were growing or just the root at harvest? Do beets over winter if there is not freezing?
Sometimes frost overnight in Oct and def in November but it varies a lot depending on where in UK. This is welsh border. It's very hilly and quite open so will be cooler. Avoid winter temp is below freezing at night but not that much and getting up to around freezing or just above during day time. Winter daylight in UK is only around 6-7 hrs so it's short days long nights.
Some years its warmer but that's average. Also wind chill is a factor. That wind is evil when it comes. Usually around November.
Not sure about eating beet greens, they do in summer I think.
Growing season in UK would be very different from west coast USA. UK is about a month in front of east coast USA, but summer is june- August. Come September it's usually all over. Starts to warm up around mid March.
Yes, beets can winter over if there's no freezing. Mulching helps. The old standard beets of a size to winter over became very tough and woody, so were definitely good only for early spring greens.
@@LynxSouth Also good winter feed for pigs.
Rocket is very delicious.
Leaving the bark on the rafters is an invitation for rot and insects
My house was built in 1834. The rafters in the dirt cellar still have the bark on.
it's not exactly great practice, but so long as they are kept sheltered so that they continue to dry bugs will not be that interested. The problem with removing bark off green wood, they will dry out too quickly and prone to split longitudinally, which means they will loosen up significantly.
Im extremely thirsty for Peter
You never stand in front of a horse and pull the lead rope to get it to go. LOL !!! You always stand beside it and look forward and just walk forward looking forward. The horse will walk beside you, it will be confused with you standing right in front of it telling it to GO!! What do you want it to do walk over you???!! LOL!! You can tell these people do not know how to handle horses well.
I would think the rods would weave faster if one end of the rafters weren’t yet secured with the peg.
3:45 did he cuss?
first aired 26 August 2005
Rip all the animals... :c
Much better than all the mass production farms, with their cramped spaces, terrible conditions and lack of connection with the animals that gets processed and sent to the grocery stores. At least they put in the labor and gave the animals a happy, well cared for life. The right way.
i played in a braken forest that looked like Jurrasic park as a kid, and I don't think the braken was used dry because it falls to pieces, i believe they have got it just right, this is an opinion only
I was born in the wrong century. I"m sure of it. :)
17:24
Why do they keep calling Peter "Fonz" 😒
Probably a nickname in reference to Happy Days The Fonz, never short of fans among the ladies.
It is his nickname
I have to watch this for homework ugh
Snorkel Ops The Anime hey I’m here too Jonah
Blarg
He he
Black thorn the horse does not have eyes
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How's fonz 😂
i love the people here acting like they know better than LITERAL EXPERTS. like what archaeological digs are yall working on? none? okay then.
You think herding pigs is hard? You should try herding CATS. (Don't ask.) 😼😼😼 LL
I hope you don't eat cats xD
Hobbit life ❤️
The thatcher guy..modern clothes. American accent...lol
He’s got on period clothing- his doublet is open in the front so it looks like a modern jacket. What does his accent matter? An accent can be learned or unlearned. He’s been studying thatching for a long time.
would of been easier to do those rafters on the ground
Awful blisters...
lol
Never Joseph! he sucks!
I've watched all the various series they have made and this series is the most disappointing. You feel 'ripped of' as they do not present the series as it should have been presented. How can you fit an entire month into 29.11 minutes and present a proper show? You can't. Why didn't they do a proper job on this series like they did on all the others?
I think this was one of the first and the series evolved over the years
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You shouldn't eat the pigs , altho it's a natural way . Today people are awful , animals r betta x 😢
I cannot believe the production team allowed that young lad to climb those pear trees. How dangerous is that? Just what the hell were they thinking, allowing him to "free climb" quite high in those trees? That sort of activity may well have been the norm for a young lad in 1620, but not in the modern era.
I thought that the production team were mindful of modern health and safety regulations.
And the thought of killing and eating their pigs and sheep is simply abhorrent. How could they be so cruel towards their animals?
The boy is like any farm kid regardless of the era. It's what they do because of how they are raised. As for the "abhorrent" killing and eating of animals: If you eat meat of any kind, they must be killed to be eaten. If you are a vegetarian or vegan aren't you basically "killing" what ever previously "living" thing you are eating when you prepare and cook it?
@jfebacher
Absolute tosh. That kid should not be allowed to climb those trees in such a fashion, no matter what the year. It may have been acceptable 400 years ago when life was very different, but it is NOT acceptable in the modern era.
I will not deign to give your nonsensical comment about vegan or vegetarians the dignity of a reply.
@@Pesky_Anon their name IS trollmeister
You're definately the Troll Master, with this comment. Just go hide in a cave and leave the people alone.
You can’t be serious?!!! A child is allowed when it comes to farm work even in the modern days of today. You need to chill. If you didn’t slaughter animals you didn’t eat and get the nutrients you need to run a farm. Even today’s time vegan diet wouldn’t be enough. And it’s not cruel is the food chain.
FYI- vegans kill habitat that animals use in order to grow food such as your fruits and veggies; So not so innocent either. Worse actually.
The chick woking the horse carry’s on like a modern equine person.
‘This horse hates you now’
Really women... just work that horse and shut your yap.
Thankfully, not every 'modern equine person' projects their own ideas of how a human in a horse suit would react or think. Some horsemen (humans with an affinity for and ability with horses) still appreciate a horse AS A HORSE.
Jefferdaughter hmmmm very true.
Ill agree with you on that.
You should probably learn to do away with the casual misogyny while you figure out how to detect a joke.
Like most people commenting on here, shes probably viewing the experience with 21st century vision, which is utterly pointless.
michaelccozens and learn some English
Peter Ginn can get it ;-)
What? What can he get?
He's a cutie for sure. :P
@@terrigaines1812 Ladies... :P Because he's handsome.
@@Springfairy92 He is but what can he get? What is the it that he can get?
@@terrigaines1812 lol....