Where are they? Anders Sandberg at TEDxUHasselt
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- On the long term, how much change in the universe can a civilization possibly cause? In this talk, Anders Sandberg brings an enthusiastic introduction to the different scenarios of the Fermi paradox and what they mean for the future of humanity.
Anders Sandberg is James Martin Research Fellow at the Future of Humanity Institute at Oxford University, as well as associated with the Oxford Neuroethics Centre, the Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics and the Programme on the Impacts of Future Technology.
His research centres on societal and ethical issues surrounding human enhancement, new technology and global catastrophic risks. He has a background in computational neuroscience and philosophy.
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If IKEA furniture could speak this is how I imagine it would sound
what if they are almost exactly at the same level in technology and are having similar talks like this? that would be awesome.
Id like to believe its purely a timing issue. We've been broadcasting radio signals for what, a little bit over a century? And we've been examining them for probably less than half that. What are the odds that a habitable planet has formed on the exact same timeline as ours, within, had life form and evolve to intelligence on roughly the same timeline and then have transmitted a signal for us to pick up. Seems pretty improbable to me. I think in the next 100 years, especially with the advent more sensitive equipment we will pick something up.
Bravo! Excellent presentation!
That is the most Swenglish accent I have ever heard.
Bruh I've heard better swnglish accents for example tanks online search it lol he has like the best swnglish accent seriusly
*swenglish typo
Early PewDiePie ;)
There is so much more to Fermi paradox, and the cumulative effect is that perhaps sentient life - let alone life capable of inter-stellar travel - is not so common at all. These kinds of talks need to engage Fermi more thoroughly. Moreover, one of the most compelling aspects of Fermi was possibility that advanced scientific civilizations might quite often be predisposed to self-destruction at a certain point. Given our history, I would say that is quite compelling as an idea. It's not simply a matter of mathematical probability vis a vis total number of stars/galaxies and m-class planets. Moreover, even with Star Trek like warp speed, we're really only talking about our own galaxy in terms of proximate interstellar travel
Yes, let's explore the cosmos. But first we'd better work out how to keep our little 'mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam' liveable. Because things ain't lookin' good right now.
Justice in my head is I don't see people I hear thoughts x
is there a TEDx Talks about the explanation of existence ?
Awesome
James web will give us the answer
Not as yet, but the James Web Space Telescope is working and we are looking with it now.
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Anyone notice how this topic has simply dropped off as a lecture topic. I suspect in 100 years we will still be asking this question, and we will cycle through interest every five to ten years. My personal opinion is that we continue to do extraterrestrial planet search but also include algorithms for intentional and unintentional star light obscurant by artificial structures. That limits how far out we can actually search though. The other option is looking for emerging K3 civilizations in other galaxies. We have done a little of that, but we did a comprehensive and focused project.
Plan for tomorrow and you can get the future. Pink stars
its quite obvious why we dont see evidence of other beings, first is the sheer scale and distances involved secondly time, we literally only just started looking, where are they? probably everywhere.
4:20 are you from pluto? on earth we (the humans)saw many flying saucer......
Perhaps life is rare. We may have a hundred civilizations in the Milky Way, a very small number. This would mean that whatever advanced life out there would view us as in special need of protection. We might even have a substantial part of our Spiral Arm reserved for us. This would be for their own self-interest and not just ours. Our development would be necessary for the Galaxy's scientific and military development.
Seeding planets with their own kind might prove problematic since the more of one species the Galaxy would have, the more wars and conflicts might emerge as wars tend to be endogenous.
InsomnicNarcoleptic I don't think anything. It is speculation.
No offense was taken. Cheers.
"the more wars and conflicts might emerge as wars tend to be endogenous. "
i think this is false, looking at wars within our history, most of them are between groups fighting over . That is, its easier to start a war with the person deemed the 'outsider'. Aliens would be the ultimate 'outsider'. I honestly think even interstellar travel capable aliens must be extremely rare. I believe that the more intelligent a species gets, the more it develops the capability to destroy itself or at least reset its civilization. Every intelligent species has conflicts and where as a major conflict between a pre-nuclear species might mean lots of dead or perhaps even progress, one with post nuclear capabilities means the ends of civilization. I speculate that the next closest intelligent species has already had a massive nuclear war and is picking up the pieces or has never had the type of progress we witnessed from 1900-2000 and thus interstellar capability.
AFGalwayz Well, if you are right, then perhaps those few civilizations that are out there would view planets such as ours as precious jewels that must be preserved for the sake of compassion. If the Milky Way has only a hundred advanced civilizations that survived nuclear war then perhaps they would be very interested in planets like ours. We have been broadcasting for decades now and perhaps at some point a colony of theirs will pick up. The more rare life is in the Universe, the more our stages of development might be considered important.
The limit of our imagination is always in the way of thinking about life in other planets. Why do we assume that any really advanced being wants to "come to us" or "communicate with us" or "watch us". A hypothetical sentient civilization that is even ten million years (not to mention a billion) more evolved than the humans could have no form; could be anything; could be something so inconceivable that we would probably require to reach similar amount of development just to register it as life. Could be the stars, the black holes or even the photons. We need first of all to broaden our scope and realize the limits imposed by the filters of our perception.
The possibilty is more logical then religion's.
Who else read the title as Andy Samberg?
If aliens already were here or are here, why aren't we looking for them? Where are they? Let's invest our resources into identifying these unidentified aerial phenomenon or aerial beings or whatever they are.
The presenter is unaware of the INTRAVIA HYPOTHESIS which states simply that "Since we have not seen life created, we do not know all the conditions necessary for its occurrence." In addition to planetary conditions (atmosphere, temperature, water, etc), there may be one or more "cosmic" condition(s) necessary which may have existed for only a limited time in a limited space. (The level of background radiation from the Big Bang might such a "cosmic" condition) Thus, it becomes plausible that there was only one planet with the right conditions AT THE RIGHT MOMENT. Put another way, the Drake Equation may be missing at least one term ... of arbitrarily small value.
Another thing that alternative media and independent researchers has taught us is that after a certain point, intelligent life evolves beyond the "physical realm" or our current solid dimension and into higher dimensions. Most really ancient ET:s have done just that, but that doesn't mean that the cosmos isn't teeming with life. We just haven't the technology to explore other celestial bodies yet in a detailed enough manner yet. (That and you can throw in some good old secrecy among governments and authorities who wont tell you whats what out there, for the sake of our security.)
i was waiting for him to return somehow to the wastebasket stealing aliens to wrap up his story
so did they take em or not?
Forget the presentation , did anyone noticed the girl clapping!
Space probs could be observing us and maybe we can't see them because they have the technology to make them invisible or something even more undetectable. When we are ready to do this ourselves, I'm sure we'll be making them very industry so we can observe without detection. Just a thought!
Hey it's the dude from that movie Hostel...lmao
sometimes there r a hundred billion stars in our galaxy n others say ther is TWO hundred stars in our galaxy... being out by A HUNDRED BILLION???
why did land life choose to survive off the most scares materials all land animals need fresh water there is only about 8% to 92% saltwater and oxygen isn't it second to last major gas in the atmosphere smh
This guy is so far off . We are just to far away for any real practical contact
I like how he simply just ignores the UFO cases of the last 80 years... 4:21 Is that pure ignorance is part of scientific thinking too? I dont think so...
Cornelius Wells I know, it’s highly frustrating
They don't want our spam.
You don't need planets ffs. You need your soul only you don't land your just out there send me. Not s robot I can't bring dust back lol there us a green man. In the way we're past it meaning anything .
you're wrong sir, in fact: WE DO SEE flying saucers! there is enough evidence!
Here is my plan to seed the universe with life:
1. Wank into sock
2. Attach sock to weather balloon and let it go
3. ????
4. Profit
Lol, your chances with the lottery would be better. What's hilarious is your investment, and expectations of return.
My old classbudy... Supersmart and really nice :)
You can stay at the shore of the ocean, staring at the waves and the surface and think that there is no life. You can do that forever without changing your position and guess what - you will never see any signs of life.
you know if you want to hear aliens T.V. you have to learn how to stabilizate radioactif isotopes ......
This must be the poooorest englisch i have ever heard...........
What we all really know is If the hubble could see further back there would be gallaxies of into the distance forever or at least as forever as we can imagine. All I hope is IF they are seeing out TV broadcastts they dont see Trump FIRST, David Attenbourgh would be my first choice lol
What i fail to understand is how, even while almost everything technological from star trek is coming to fruition, people cant fathom that a simple philosophy from the show might also be real; Beings out there similar enough to us to be interested in us may just have a non interference protocol.
I have the answer to the fermi paradox for the world right here: there IS a version of the ‘prime directive’ going on. If one considers this, and that they would likely be more advanced than we, the sheer numbers and improbable lack of evidence doesn’t seem all that confusing after all.
Fantastic, very thought provoking talk. Thanks.
All rollocks, typical. mainstream disinfo.. Open, write in reverse, for full disclosure.. moc.ylfyeht.
Where are they? Watching you since you were born.
All billionaires are perverts.
They're behind you....
He has the same accent as Borat.
lol. Only 10 comments. "Where is everybody?"
The answer to the Fermi Paradox. There is a beautiful loving Universe many people claim they experience when they are undergoing an NDE. Long before any Advanced Civilization gains the technology necessary for Interstellar Travel - they find a way to escape to that Universe. In other words, it is technologically easier to get to that other very pleasant and safer place, than it is to develop the Type II Civilization Technology necessary for Interstellar Travel. This explains why we have found no sign of an Advanced Alien Civilization anywhere in the Universe.
it is logical each star have his own mass so the own radioactive reaction for more the number of hydrogene or proton not the same and the temperature is particular so the matter have not the same composition ......
for this you need the weaker voltage with the strongest courant mean a really supraconductor ......
Your using a blue screen and that to draw its in. There's a huge sky up there in the evening that draws me in that's hypnotic. Your analysing with your imsgination. I can go there I can't prove it. I can switch on a switch and literally float away. I can sort of day with this. I'm free there x
I'm curious what Sandberg's "more than likely" opinion is re: Fermi Paradox question. Ultimately a paradox is rhetorical in Its nature, however I'd like to know Sandberg's, Hawking's, Tyson's, etc. ONE theory they 'lean towards'. I'd wager 1 of 2: 1) Dominant Species Theory-via silencing, separating or withholding OR 2) Jesus said.. im kidding!! LOL 2) We are alone. Sandberg made interesting point: unlikely EVERY intelligence (assuming existence) share policy re:1st contact a PRIME DIRECTIVE;
im not sure what he ment about traveling to other galaxies at near lightspeed.15:15
our closet galaxy is 179,000 light years away. lightspeed gets you nowhere outside the milky way.not to mention the time it takes to accelerate to light speed. is your ship going to go 0 to lightspeed in 60 seconds? and there are no reports of little green men.. they are grey. did this lecture take place in the 50's???
Don't want to be rude but he turned an interesting subject into boring... He's not a very good speaker, he's passionate but not a public speaker.
Face it. Even traveling at 38,000 mph, visitors to our neighborhood are going to be old farts. They have the technology to travel the speed of light, but not the technology to slow down?
Maybe because the universe is expanding at the speed of light in all directions, you can't receive a message, because when it's transmitted, we're moving away from the message at the speed of light, effectively making it constantly the same distance from us.
stars in the first galaxies did not have planets as there was only hydrogen. not sure when there were enough super novae to get a time when there were a lot of planets being formed. say between 5 and 10 billion years some time
Just some random thoughts....... It's hard for me to believe that the whole universe, by design or by accident, exists only for us, or by some cosmic accident, life evolved only here on earth. What if WE are the aliens we are looking for? Could an alien race's planet have become uninhabitable and chose earth to colonize and preserve themselves? What if, by some plan, the universal laws of physics were purposely designed to not let life forms have the ability to contact each other? For a long time, it was thought that the expansion of the universe should be slowing down, but Edwin Hubble proved that it is actually accelerating. We may have evolved too late to contact other life forms because of the ever increasing distances between them and us. In other words, we've been left behind. Another good idea that this speaker explored was the possibility that other life forms have had millions, if not billions, of years of a head start on us. Look at what we have accomplished in only 100 years. Look at what we have accomplished in the last 10 years. Where will we be in another hundred, thousand or million years? A hundred years from now, people will look at our smartphones the same way we look at the stone tools of early man. We may just be regarded as uninteresting organisms by other, more advanced, life forms who just pass by us because we're not all that interesting. On the other hand, they might find us interesting, but are bound by a directive to not interfere with other life forms (like Star Trek) because simply making contact with us could have catastrophic results. Just as the speaker in this video demonstrated, there are too many variables and too many "unknown" consequences of finding other life. I really want to believe that other forms of intelligent life exist out there and that some day we will make contact. Perhaps this is all just a simulation and nothing we see or feel or feel doesn't really exist. Personally, I'm not sure that I want to know all of the answers. Knowing everything would make life really boring.
There are people and earth like us , at 30 million ly, how you Will get in touch with them?
Moreover, Drake's equation only has qualified scientific value, it is more of a heuristic device. Half of the variables in the equation are simply not known at all. Thus, development of sentient life elsewhere is not simply a matter of 'statistical probability.'
As I see it the Darke equation is a good way to illustrate how little we know and how much the world can change just due to a little fact we do not know off.
If we leave out all the supposed UFO sightings, maybe we haven't found any aliens and aliens haven't found us is because space travel over such a large distances is simply entirely impossible?
Taavi Viikman ....leave out all the supposed UFO sightings?...why on earth(no pun intended) would you want to do that?
phaseshifting, I have seen them beams of light come down in rainstorms, and t lhen bam, they dissapear. I have witnessed this 4 times in my life, most of the time its when Im driving and its always at 1-4 am, I have no idea why its that late, but I will say its odd. I was driving down my local interstate, and all the sudden a blinding light hit me, and fog was so thick, I was like what is this so I pulled over and stopped, I looked to my left and a bright blue light vanished, and a being looked at me, and bam a bright light hit me again and it was gone, I was freaked out the first time. So I vowed I would run the next one, we need proof, so I dont go talking about these things, but dag gone, if I had a tazer weapon, or a rope, I would hog tie it up. but its not human looking and its not bipedal, the last one I seen was radiating some fluroscent colors like a color shifting skin tone, my first thought was it was some kind of military camouflauge, but I would say its so bazaar and happens at times you would never expect it so im always unarmed and generally alone. Im prepping for the next time we got to get them for science needs proof, i went back to the spot I seen it, and waited for 3 days. Im thinking of using traps next.
I was thinking of using TAZER on them, but they are so quick.
Drawing "little green men with antennae" just adds to the stigma about life being out there. If you want people to take this seriously, that stereotypical and polarizing type of thinking needs to be set aside.
Not really. The stigma was glued on by an agency because there are many who believe those lil guys are already here, attempting to practice respect for our natural development.
Consider this scenario: perhaps one could be oblivious, with their eyes downward to a screen, and simply cannot see what is absolutely there, or perhaps believe themselves to be crazy, or fear the judgement attached:…Haven’t you seen them? What if every observant person HAD seen them, at least once, some constantly- but the stigma alone successfully silences every single one.
If i was involved in such matters, the stereotypic imagery would be perfect for use in systematic defamation of this seemingly frightening idea. .
Hey, cartoonist. It's 13 billion years, not 13 million.
And/or this is a simulation.
I thought it was Adam Sanberg. Smh
If we have had any contact with ET the governments of the world wouldn’t tell us.
you mean they are not telling us
Are the green mens existing?
As a fellow swede dear guy conducting this lecture : even I've seen a ufo on Swedish soil and I'm not really an investigator..
(Let me out of here :p)
Yumpin' yimminy!
to quote a sci fi writer: Perhaps we are canaries, singing from the tree tops, ignorant of the hawks flying overhead.
Some people are still at the point of asking is there anyone out there.... but
Millions already know life is here & visiting, 1000’s have proof including most governments.
We need Disclosure on the subject so people can get on the same page of time & knowledge.
We did get to the moon... Not sure about that fact being accurate, too many conspiracy theories point otherwise
but if we make robots to explore space for us they wont be useful unless there intelligent and if they are intelligent they might figure out its better to build robots to send out to explore then send themselves....
See 'Richard Dolan - best speech ever' .......clarity on the whole subject of aliens and visitations...superb stuff.
Richard Dolan is in my opinion the best in his field by far. So many of once great sources of information and research have gone off the deep end of things.. not even mentioning the ones in it for the " con " if you will and just ruining any potentially credibility in relation to the extra terrestrial phenomenon
we were created by aliens to be food we are quiet simply like chickens in a battery chicken farm our barn is the planet we call earth
Quite
turrrible stage presence. couldn't even get through the whole thing because of the accent. if you read more than two articles on the topic don't bother with watching this one.
Terrible
it is very unlikely we went to the moon with the technologie of the appolo 11.what about the Van Allen radiation belt?!
Oh dear oh dear oh dear really . I hope for your sake you are a troll? otherwise there's no hope left dude..