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But thats the format of the show. To have two co hosts who have opposing viewpoints and will challenge each other and have a respectful open debate. Often times they do agree on a lot n reach common ground like on Israel for example they agree. No other show has this format and it's really cool
Saagar's an idiot. The US spent 4 decades destabilizing these countries, including literally funding terrorist right-wing contra death squads, and even boosting the crack cocaine gangs, and he's like "what does this say about our confidence in them to turn it around?" I dunno dude, we created a breakdown of law and order, used CIA backed rebels to continue a civil war, and you're expecting them to rise out of the ashes like a Phoenix overnight?
Eh social services removing a child because the parent staying is more of a danger than leaving is not the same as removing a child from a parent that is fit and the child is safer with the parent than without.
@SarahWilson-z6q a parent that decided to bring a child on a dangerous, life threatening trek culminating in breaking the law of a soverign country. 🤦♂️🤦♂️ (disclaimer: Im a legal latino immigrant)
@ you being an immigrant has nothing to do with my statement. What does you being Latino have to do with my statement? Are you saying all immigrants are Latino? Not all parents brought their child. What if the child was born here? What if they had money and rode a really nice airplane here and never went back? I agree parents should not be taking a child on a dangerous journey. The way you stop that is not letting them in that way. Your comment made no sense to me.
" Bukele, one of the most popular leaders in South America". I know a lot of americans are dumb as rocks when it comes to geography, but I expected better from Saagar lol
@@thereisaidthat If Spain’s not in South America, why does everyone in South America speak Spanish, genius? Just kidding! It is sad how little is being taught these days.
I think he was just talking and thinking fast and slipped South America for Latin America on accident. Point remains true that Bukele and Milei are the most popular leaders in LatAm rn
However the legal process takes forever. Loads of people came here legally over a decade ago and cannot leave, and don’t have any paperwork and spend money to work legally without any clue of their case will ever be reviewed. You want them to come legally but most who do get stuck in indefinite limbo. Also no. You don’t separate kids. I worked with teens for 14 years. There’s a huge difference between why ICE would separate kids and CPS. And taking a child away from their family or deporting them if they are here legally hut a parental figure isn’t would put them in MORE danger. CPS tries to get them out of danger and only in extreme cases.
El Salvador is the size of Queretaro, stop with this, Mexico is constantly getting better, being from Michoacan don't even comeback and say I don't know what I'm talking about.
@manuelfuentesguerra88 travel to Mexico annually to visit my parents. This is the last year I travel here until they get their stuff together. Not sure what lense you are looking through, but it's a dump from where I am looking. The people's relaxed and welcoming energy, low cost of living and beautiful nature is what I seek here. All of this seems to be terrible. I can't speak for Michoacan, as I've only been there once 6 years ago after new years and it was sorta scary at that time.
@manuelfuentesguerra88 oh I forgot Queretaro is 2.3 million people and El Salvador is 6 million. I believe it's possible to scale up concepts, you know like corporations do.
In the case of child support, why don’t you look at separation of American citizens who commit a crime. Do you leave those American citizens to live with their child instead of going to prison or do you imprison their children along with the parent?
So true. I had to study hard and excel to come to america legally. And my cousin crossed the border and became legal earlier than those who came legally
It's not "visa temple". It's just a temple with particular god/goddess which people have faith in and wished for something and it came true and that get spread by word of mouth that if you are applying for visa , praying in this temple works There are houses in north of India that install big model Planes in hopes their kid can immigrate abroad.
Why is that we never hear from immigration advocates/legal experts about the system? This guy does not understand the real world experience of these migrants. Also the question is never asked, "Why not just give them work authorization and a pathway to status?" Why would that be so bad. What would that do?
You're essentially advocating for the United States to be an economic zone where anyone can come in and work as opposed to being a country. We have a culture and history and traditions and values that not many places around the world understand or respect. I don't want people to come who have no investment in the country other than collecting a paycheck.
You saying this guy doesn't understand the real world while simultaneously asking why cant we just aminesty 13 million illegal migrants is painfully ignorant. you need to have more honest conversations with people who disagree with you it's obviously you have little to no experience in this regard.
You really dumb aren’t you? That would invite another billion, hungry desperate people from around the world that your mother would have to pay to support.
Just for clarity "serve a dept to society" An individual that has for some reason found themselves in a position where they may choose to find release in the use of some proscribed substance by dictate of the state or nation then owes a dept to that state or nation. The use of the phrase "dept to society" is such a ridiculous way to frame that situation especially when there is a corporate penal system that profits to an extent that there would never be a reasonable expectation to prescribe a solution to the solace in the use of proscribed substances in the first instance. The whole situation seems to be highly likely that there is a lot to gain for these policies that are negatively effecting of individuals that provide the labour for the generation of profit has nothing to do with the detrimental situation that humam being may of been originally involved with.
I miss Saagar but even he is no where near enough to tolerate his Harpy treason supporting co-host and her husband who sold out, or made it readily apparent, right after getting involved with her.
@aviralsinghal1274 putting people in jail without trails is a suspension of the rule of law. If you give that power to a government, it can be difficult to get back.
@msdm83 I am pro freedom. But government exist specifically to provide community services, safety, and public infrastructure. The government there failed to provide safety and the streets were run by gangs. Cleaning it up is not called giving power to the government. Also they DO get trial in the specific period written in their law and Constitution. Just because their Constitution and law does not match with the legal standard of US, does not mean they are unconstitutional. They are simply following their own Constitution. I would worry about rights of innocent girls and kids taken by the gangs first as compared to rights of gang members who have committed crimes worth capital punishment.
not sure Bukeyle is the best example given the clear civil rights violations he's commited, in particular to reference him without that being aknowledged. Just sayin'...
I think the criminal Maras gangs like MS13 were the ones violating civil rights of innocent people by robbing and killing them and trafficking narcotics. Now fhey no longer can do that as Bukele put them in prison. I don't see any other angle there.
It's the best example because he's cleaned up his country the most effectively and it's the best known. Milei is #2.... after that it's like Maduro which nobody will want to point to.
You hear this dumb comment all the time that "illegal immigration is unfair to legal immigrants" who undergo a lengthy process to obtain status. However, the experience of illegal immigrants is fundamentally different. While legal immigrants follow a structured process, illegal immigrants often face life-or-death risks, endure physical danger, and live under constant fear of legal repercussions. Once in the U.S., they are severely limited in employment opportunities and social mobility, living as second-class citizens. If illegal immigrants were able to circumvent the long legal process but still gain the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as legal immigrants, it might be unfair. However, this is not the case, as their lives remain marked by significant hardships and barriers.
If this country absorbed every immigrant facing a dangerous government back home, the U.S. would literally no longer be a country. We’d have orders of magnitude more people than we could ever support, and the systems we rely on for public service would collapse. Many people feel we’re already headed sharply in that direction. You have very hopeful reasoning, but in no way is it reasonable or sustainable.
@@ADDekoning100 Thanks for your response. Please note that I'm not making any recommendations about how many legal immigrants or asylum seekers the US should accept. I'm commenting on the false equivalence being made between legal and illegal immigrants.
There is no false equivalent, more than 50% of illegal immigrant was on temporary status, expired visa, asylum wait, etc., and they went underground or become illegal when visa or temporary status was no longer extended and don’t go back. The majority of illegal is equivalent to legal immigrant. The sneaking through borders without first filing papers, breaking into your backyard, they don’t deserve free social services, legal work permit because they trespassed private properties. They are deserving to be deported. There’s also no false equivalent because under the law, most of them got anchor babies allow to stick around, get free phone lines, housing, social services that most legal immigrant do not get. Read the law and study statics before making claims of false equivalence. Clearly you comparing a very minor set of hardship immigrants compared to majority, that’s not even including human / drug trafficking, which cannot false equivalent. Traffickers definitely got money more benefits than legal migrants who waited and get no public assistance due to immigration laws.
@ he said he was in an interview and didn’t dispute it when asked. His parents came here on visas and he was born here to non citizens. Which part of that is wrong?
@@reactionreaper2501 Incorrect. Birthright will go to any children of immigrants who entered LEGALLY to the USA. You are spreading misinformation. The USA is not going to reward illegal entry into the USA.
@@reactionreaper2501 Wrong...let me help you out...“Here’s the policy we’re going to apply - this is where I’ve been clear - the kid of illegal immigrants and the families who came here undocumented have to be returned to their country of origin,” he said.
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Saagar needs his own show
But thats the format of the show. To have two co hosts who have opposing viewpoints and will challenge each other and have a respectful open debate. Often times they do agree on a lot n reach common ground like on Israel for example they agree.
No other show has this format and it's really cool
@@ashwinpawar5325It's literally the format of Rising
Saagar's an idiot. The US spent 4 decades destabilizing these countries, including literally funding terrorist right-wing contra death squads, and even boosting the crack cocaine gangs, and he's like "what does this say about our confidence in them to turn it around?" I dunno dude, we created a breakdown of law and order, used CIA backed rebels to continue a civil war, and you're expecting them to rise out of the ashes like a Phoenix overnight?
Why cause Krystal has sub 100 iq?
Social services SEPARATES kids from parents everyday in the US!!
And no body cares about that because there party doesn’t tell them to.
@@BBDumfuk exactly... 🤦♂️
Eh social services removing a child because the parent staying is more of a danger than leaving is not the same as removing a child from a parent that is fit and the child is safer with the parent than without.
@SarahWilson-z6q a parent that decided to bring a child on a dangerous, life threatening trek culminating in breaking the law of a soverign country. 🤦♂️🤦♂️ (disclaimer: Im a legal latino immigrant)
@ you being an immigrant has nothing to do with my statement. What does you being Latino have to do with my statement? Are you saying all immigrants are Latino? Not all parents brought their child. What if the child was born here? What if they had money and rode a really nice airplane here and never went back? I agree parents should not be taking a child on a dangerous journey. The way you stop that is not letting them in that way. Your comment made no sense to me.
Are businesses that hire illegal immigrants breaking the law?
Yes
Yes
Yes, but we dont enforce it...
Why should anyone have to have the permission of the government to work? Are we all government employees?
@jaer678 the govt explicitly bans illegal immigrants from working
there should be a skill based system for regular immigration in the US.. more clear path instead of lottery..
There is. Look up Employment Based Visa categories.
@@A-Wesker-5 the green card line for some countries is 30 years. That system is broken.
" Bukele, one of the most popular leaders in South America". I know a lot of americans are dumb as rocks when it comes to geography, but I expected better from Saagar lol
Ignorant people think any Spanish speaking country is in South America, including Spain!
@@thereisaidthat If Spain’s not in South America, why does everyone in South America speak Spanish, genius?
Just kidding! It is sad how little is being taught these days.
I think he was just talking and thinking fast and slipped South America for Latin America on accident. Point remains true that Bukele and Milei are the most popular leaders in LatAm rn
@@stuartbagley2586if everyone in the US speaks English, why is the US still not in England genius
Kidding of course
Anything south of Mexico is South America.
They don't care about the living conditions. They don't want legally replaced with legal immigrants.
However the legal process takes forever. Loads of people came here legally over a decade ago and cannot leave, and don’t have any paperwork and spend money to work legally without any clue of their case will ever be reviewed. You want them to come legally but most who do get stuck in indefinite limbo.
Also no. You don’t separate kids. I worked with teens for 14 years. There’s a huge difference between why ICE would separate kids and CPS. And taking a child away from their family or deporting them if they are here legally hut a parental figure isn’t would put them in MORE danger. CPS tries to get them out of danger and only in extreme cases.
No reason they can’t all leave together
@ would you want to do that?
Bukele needs to move on to Mexico, this place is in dire need before it gets any worse.
El Salvador is the size of Queretaro, stop with this, Mexico is constantly getting better, being from Michoacan don't even comeback and say I don't know what I'm talking about.
@manuelfuentesguerra88 travel to Mexico annually to visit my parents. This is the last year I travel here until they get their stuff together. Not sure what lense you are looking through, but it's a dump from where I am looking. The people's relaxed and welcoming energy, low cost of living and beautiful nature is what I seek here. All of this seems to be terrible. I can't speak for Michoacan, as I've only been there once 6 years ago after new years and it was sorta scary at that time.
@manuelfuentesguerra88 oh I forgot Queretaro is 2.3 million people and El Salvador is 6 million. I believe it's possible to scale up concepts, you know like corporations do.
Pack your bags!
Maybe the law should get amended for birth citizenship in the US. ONLY births of existing citizens?
In the case of child support, why don’t you look at separation of American citizens who commit a crime. Do you leave those American citizens to live with their child instead of going to prison or do you imprison their children along with the parent?
So true. I had to study hard and excel to come to america legally. And my cousin crossed the border and became legal earlier than those who came legally
Saagar almost made sense
😂there’s no such a thing as human immigration
Not entitled to visa bye
Visa temple is fucking wild lol
It's not "visa temple". It's just a temple with particular god/goddess which people have faith in and wished for something and it came true and that get spread by word of mouth that if you are applying for visa , praying in this temple works
There are houses in north of India that install big model Planes in hopes their kid can immigrate abroad.
@@rajanladis there any h1b temple 😂?
6:30 yep it’s in a city called Hyderabad. “Chilkur balaji” temple. Many people go there to pray to get a visa.
@@dataisnugold yeah but it's not like Visa temple. Sagar is kinda telling it without nuance
End the asylum system
Isn't it vivake like cake or have i been mislead is it viveck?
It's definitely the cake one! But some ppl still get it wrong. Tbh I don't see much of a difference between the two pronounciations
@ashwinpawar5325 word ty boss
The drug addict VS immigrant analogy was dumb Saagar.. Come on bro
Bro? Speak like an adult…grow up
@Steve-qy8or lol
@@cleb5558 is YOLO next? Enjoy your video game and Mountain Dew.
@@Steve-qy8or strange take, hoss. Have a good one
@@cleb5558 Ok my guy…was that good bro speak?
Why is that we never hear from immigration advocates/legal experts about the system? This guy does not understand the real world experience of these migrants. Also the question is never asked, "Why not just give them work authorization and a pathway to status?" Why would that be so bad. What would that do?
Oh yeah let’s just give jobs and work visas to anyone that comes here so then we can then just take jobs away from the people born here 🤡🤡🤡🤡.
You're essentially advocating for the United States to be an economic zone where anyone can come in and work as opposed to being a country. We have a culture and history and traditions and values that not many places around the world understand or respect. I don't want people to come who have no investment in the country other than collecting a paycheck.
@@TheAlexrmena then business will have to pay minimum wage to them. No Go 🤣
You saying this guy doesn't understand the real world while simultaneously asking why cant we just aminesty 13 million illegal migrants is painfully ignorant. you need to have more honest conversations with people who disagree with you it's obviously you have little to no experience in this regard.
You really dumb aren’t you? That would invite another billion, hungry desperate people from around the world that your mother would have to pay to support.
Just for clarity
"serve a dept to society"
An individual that has for some reason found themselves in a position where they may choose to find release in the use of some proscribed substance by dictate of the state or nation then owes a dept to that state or nation. The use of the phrase "dept to society" is such a ridiculous way to frame that situation especially when there is a corporate penal system that profits to an extent that there would never be a reasonable expectation to prescribe a solution to the solace in the use of proscribed substances in the first instance.
The whole situation seems to be highly likely that there is a lot to gain for these policies that are negatively effecting of individuals that provide the labour for the generation of profit has nothing to do with the detrimental situation that humam being may of been originally involved with.
I miss Saagar but even he is no where near enough to tolerate his Harpy treason supporting co-host and her husband who sold out, or made it readily apparent, right after getting involved with her.
El Salvidor "solved" their by suspending the rule of law.
#freedum
No they did not. They simply enforced the rule of law.
@aviralsinghal1274 putting people in jail without trails is a suspension of the rule of law. If you give that power to a government, it can be difficult to get back.
@msdm83 I am pro freedom. But government exist specifically to provide community services, safety, and public infrastructure. The government there failed to provide safety and the streets were run by gangs. Cleaning it up is not called giving power to the government. Also they DO get trial in the specific period written in their law and Constitution. Just because their Constitution and law does not match with the legal standard of US, does not mean they are unconstitutional. They are simply following their own Constitution. I would worry about rights of innocent girls and kids taken by the gangs first as compared to rights of gang members who have committed crimes worth capital punishment.
For Here or To Go?
not sure Bukeyle is the best example given the clear civil rights violations he's commited, in particular to reference him without that being aknowledged. Just sayin'...
I think the criminal Maras gangs like MS13 were the ones violating civil rights of innocent people by robbing and killing them and trafficking narcotics. Now fhey no longer can do that as Bukele put them in prison. I don't see any other angle there.
It's the best example because he's cleaned up his country the most effectively and it's the best known. Milei is #2.... after that it's like Maduro which nobody will want to point to.
Living in fantasy world.
Saagar is a lot smarter than Breaking Points allows him to be. Krystal Ball is a horrible counterpart for him
You hear this dumb comment all the time that "illegal immigration is unfair to legal immigrants" who undergo a lengthy process to obtain status. However, the experience of illegal immigrants is fundamentally different. While legal immigrants follow a structured process, illegal immigrants often face life-or-death risks, endure physical danger, and live under constant fear of legal repercussions. Once in the U.S., they are severely limited in employment opportunities and social mobility, living as second-class citizens. If illegal immigrants were able to circumvent the long legal process but still gain the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as legal immigrants, it might be unfair. However, this is not the case, as their lives remain marked by significant hardships and barriers.
If this country absorbed every immigrant facing a dangerous government back home, the U.S. would literally no longer be a country. We’d have orders of magnitude more people than we could ever support, and the systems we rely on for public service would collapse. Many people feel we’re already headed sharply in that direction. You have very hopeful reasoning, but in no way is it reasonable or sustainable.
@@ADDekoning100 Thanks for your response. Please note that I'm not making any recommendations about how many legal immigrants or asylum seekers the US should accept. I'm commenting on the false equivalence being made between legal and illegal immigrants.
There is no false equivalent, more than 50% of illegal immigrant was on temporary status, expired visa, asylum wait, etc., and they went underground or become illegal when visa or temporary status was no longer extended and don’t go back. The majority of illegal is equivalent to legal immigrant. The sneaking through borders without first filing papers, breaking into your backyard, they don’t deserve free social services, legal work permit because they trespassed private properties. They are deserving to be deported. There’s also no false equivalent because under the law, most of them got anchor babies allow to stick around, get free phone lines, housing, social services that most legal immigrant do not get. Read the law and study statics before making claims of false equivalence. Clearly you comparing a very minor set of hardship immigrants compared to majority, that’s not even including human / drug trafficking, which cannot false equivalent. Traffickers definitely got money more benefits than legal migrants who waited and get no public assistance due to immigration laws.
Vivek was an anchor baby.
Noo , stop your false information. Educate yourself
@ he said he was in an interview and didn’t dispute it when asked. His parents came here on visas and he was born here to non citizens. Which part of that is wrong?
@@andrewchan2809exactly and by looking at him and hearing him speak it’s not hard to tell first generation
@@andrewchan2809 the term is derogatory if there is no intent to maliciously use the circumstances to have kids.
@@podangadubukus So what! And, what if there was intent? Trump is going to end this day one.. LOL!
tell ramaswamy to merge india with iss..nasa and isro should unite
Is Vivek an Ancher baby?
Nope, his parents came legally
@burrosification They were on student visas. Based on Trump's idea, he wouldn't have birthright citizenship.
@@reactionreaper2501 Incorrect. Birthright will go to any children of immigrants who entered LEGALLY to the USA. You are spreading misinformation. The USA is not going to reward illegal entry into the USA.
@@reactionreaper2501 Wrong...let me help you out...“Here’s the policy we’re going to apply - this is where I’ve been clear - the kid of illegal immigrants and the families who came here undocumented have to be returned to their country of origin,” he said.
@@reactionreaper2501 Spreading false witness....you are aware that is what you are doing right?
America for Americans. Fix your own country