Ogata is such an interesting character. I want someone to make a whole character analysis video on him. His sociopathic ways are so well-written. Due to growing up without love or affection from his parents, he’s incapable of being sympathetic to others and understanding people’s emotions. But he doesn’t want to believe that he is missing something that other people has and wants to believe that everyone is the same as him. Thus, he claims that no one actually feels any guilt for killing others and that when given the chance, all people will end up showing their dirty sides no matter what their upbringings are. I bet this mindset is also a coping mechanism for self-affirmation and to believe that if circumstances were different, there was a way for him to receive affection from his family for who he is. However, his brother and Asirpa were both purely good people, which went against his beliefs. This was probably why he killed his brother and tried to kill Asirpa. Although, in his brother’s case, as Ogata said before, it was also to find out if his father will start paying attention to him once his brother is gone, which will prove that there was a chance for him to receive love and affection and a chance that his brother could have ended up like him. Unfortunately for him, this plan ended up failing though. He’s basically like a child who’s starving for love but doesn’t realize it because I don’t think he even fully understands his own emotions. He’s also clearly feeling some guilt for killing his brother since I bet he was the only one who ever showed him some affection, but he denies it to uphold his belief. His twisted mindset that he developed as a coping mechanism is basically preventing him from receiving the love that he truly wants, so he is pretty much digging his own grave and moving further away from salvation, which I find it to be very depressing and tragic. I hope he gets at least a satisfying conclusion by the end of the story. He may be unredeemable, but I want him to be saved.
Honestly a deep character analysis would be a great video on this character but one things for certain I know by the end of this the character gonna do something that’s gonna make him die a horrible death
@@ds3rampage154 Aww man. I love Ogata’s character so I would hate for that to happen. But then again, I can see that happening. Ever since his backstory came up, I’ve had a bad feeling that he won’t be having a nice ending.
Seems like you made the character analysis after all 😅, cool inputs btw. Even though I'm not a psychologist nor a psychiatrist, I think he's rather a psychopath than a sociopath. Or maybe he suffers from a combination of both problems 🤷♀️ It would be very interesting to read the opinion of an expert on this matter. In any case, his reasons regarding the hunt of the golden treasure remain a mistery, he clearly wasn't honest to Asirpa so we still don't know why he left the army and made different alliances, first with Hijikata and then with Kiroranke. The manga will reveal this eventually and so will the anime if we ever see a season 4 in the future. Only then we will discover Ogata's true colours.
Golden Kamuy: An emotional brutal scene followed by a heartfelt reunion Also Golden Kamuy: Piss on Asirpa's face to remove her eyelid that was frozen onto Sugimoto's button.
This anime is so underrated it actually makes me sad. It's also one of the most bizarre anime I have ever seen. It's so bizarre for me because the genre shift a LOT. Like one moment it's brutal af, then a lot of action, then suddenly it becomes a slice-of-life cooking, then suddenly becoming comedic as heck, then it randomly shifts again. I wish more people discover this anime.
One of the most interesting thing in this anime is that there's no heroes or villains. Yes, Sugimoto and Asirpa is the main character but the story follows many more characters. Highlights their background and lives, and they all do what they have to do. The realism makes me not hate any of them. Ogata is one that character. He's ruthless, he thinks none can be innocent, he believes everyone who kills doesn't bear the guilt like him. But he does have some guilt. I'm glad that he didn't die, I want to see more of him (gotta read the manga since I finished the anime). And that voice of his.... DAMN! Ugh it's dark yet so soothing to hear.
christ, you people act like a show having morally gray characters automatically makes it incredible. There not being 'heroes' or 'villains' doesn't make it deep, that's a common thing in fiction
@@misschocoholic2126 honestly yeah he would be a perfect example of a true neutral, but most of the characters are other than perhaps Asripa and maybe a little bit in Sugimoto since he gets upset about things such as the kid in the performance episode getting hurt and finding the missing girl
What makes Ogata so great is that they took a relatively cliche motivator like "daddy issues" and managed to portray it in such a realistic, complex, and dynamic way that even mentioning the clicheness of it feels like an insult to the brilliance of it all.
Though what makes it even better is that it’s never truly clear if this resulted from neglect during his childhood, or if he was just always like this. The nature vs nurture was he always just so disconnected from his empathy and sense of love or was he molded into being that from due to neglect.
@@Assilem-oc9qe I have, also an amazing anime. Virtually every character he has voiced is good. New series about some ex yakuza that's a houseman has Kenjirou as well voicing the main character.
I thought it was a coincidence when I read the manga version, then realized there are no coincidences with Noda. That scene with Sugimoto sucking on Ogata's eye, with Ogata's face turned and Sugimoto's gripping his chin and head. That's Gustav Klimt's The Kiss.
After reading this, I looked at Klimts work again. And googeling on, I found the artist Ogata Korin who actually inspired Klimts golden backgrounds and style of work. This is so cool! He united two great artists in two figures through this scene.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's true. What I love about Noda is that he's clearly having fun doing his job. That Appetite for Destruction parody gave me a hearty smile when I first saw it.
杉元はアシリパの清いところに救いを求めてて、尾形はアシリパのような清い人でも道理があれば人をあやめるってところに救いを求めてるんだよな〜。
深いね・・・
サムネの尾形の不敵な笑み…純粋に嬉しそうな表情に見える。尾形も辛かったんだな…。救われて良かった😢
あと尾形は、アシリパに自分を殺させる事で「アシリパが死ぬ時まで絶対に忘れる事が出来ない人間」になろうと考えたと思う。
単なる彼氏とか旦那なら別れれば終わりだけど、さすがに自分の手で殺めた人間は忘れられないからね。
「死人は無敵」ってやつだね
もしくは誰からも理解されない、どうしようもない人でなしとしての自分の人生をアシリパのような純粋な優しさを持った人間に終わらせて(浄化して)ほしかったのかな(これは多分ないか)
@@ta2716 280話あたりで
弟、勇作に扮した杉本が
暴れたところでも笑ってたもん、そうなんだよな
杉元は直前まで尾形のこと殺す気満々だったのに、アシリパが誤って殺しそうになった瞬間に救う方向に切り換えるのカッコよい
心の中に、本とにアシリパさんが、いたんだろね
尾形…悲しすぎるよ…
アシリパが撃った時｢ほらな、お前も俺と変わらないんだ…皆そうなんだ｣って感じの顔してるよね…
@@D_I_B_H でも尾形自身が勇作を殺したことに罪悪感を感じているってのがとても滑稽で可愛らしいですよね☺️
おがたは何もわかっちゃいない。悪人を殺すことと無罪人を殺すことが一緒だとでも思っているのか？アシリパも間抜けだ。
@@newman4938 ハイハイすごいすごい
@@博多の岩ダム boş yapma
@@newman4938 きっしょ、小学生？
一緒に笑いあって飯食った次の日には殺し合いしてるのがゴールデンカムイ
人を殺しかけた次の瞬間にその横で顔面にションベンをぶっかけて笑い合っているのもゴールデンカムイ
真実ですなあ
キロランケがインカラマッ刺しただけで殺さなかったのはゴールデンカムイのキャラの中ではかなり甘いなと思った。
敵対したら杉本なら確実に殺してた。敵対してなくても必要なら確実に殺すのが鶴見ってイメージ
@@ЗАТО-МАЦДОСК-Ул.ЗЕНРАДАНСЕЙ 生きながらヴァルハラにいる男たちの物語。
突き詰めれば人間は動物だってところを否応無しに見せつけてくる漫画マジこえー
1:05 このシーンのゾクゾクが堪らない
出血や普段普通に生きてるなら啜らないところを啜る生理的に無理なシーンと杉本のアシ(リ)パさんを人殺しにしたくない思いと尾形の失明の衝撃と思惑が一度に全てが詰まってて見てられないけど魅入ってしまう美しさがとてつもない
すき
0:38 ここで尾形が消えゆくように「はずがないん『だ』」って言ってるところに、人間らしさというか、自分に言い聞かせてる感じがして尾形の弱みが見えるところがたまらんな！
これは英語だとなかなか伝わらん…
本当に人殺しに何も感じてないなら、いくら理解できない対象だったとはいえ勇作の幻影を引きずってる事自体おかしいしね
野田ちゃんキャラの掘り下げ天才かよ
尾形が孤独すぎて辛い…
倒れる直前の尾形の笑みに鳥肌たったわ。
複雑な気持ちにはなったけど 、杉元とアシリパさんの感動の再会は嬉しかった。
ちゅぴぃ？
@@Gohaaaaaaan ちゅぴぃ辞めろ
@@ys.2932 ちゅぴぴぃ？
ちゅりり
羽をムシって食っちゃうぞ！！(般若)
尾形は作中でイエスの12使徒の一人、マタイと結びつけられて描かれる場面がいくつかありますが、今回の右目を抉り捨てられるシーンも、マタイによる福音書5-29「もしあなたの右の目が罪を犯させるなら、それを抜き出して捨てなさい。五体の一部を失っても、全身が地獄に投げ入れられない方が、あなたにとって益である 」と結びつけられているように思われます。
有名な話だとエドガイ邸の最後の晩餐のパロディーでは尾形がいるとこはユダ
杉本がいるところは耳を削ぎととした使徒の一人と同じ
@@影森ケセド
ユダはキロちゃんじゃ無いですか？
いいキャッチ
考察が凄すぎて頭がまわらん
@S T ちゅぴぃ？
私の推しは尾形ではないのですが、このシーンの直前で尾形が「俺ではダメか、うまくいかんもんだな」って言うじゃないですか、生い立ちを鑑みると、あの時本当に誰か現れて否定してあげてほしいと思ってしまいます。
この意見に感動した
この後の杉元が「元気そうだね、ちょっと重くなった？」って言うとこ好きすぎる
「重くなった」を杉本は「おっきくなったね～、成長した？」みたいな使い方するから。
この二人、親戚の兄ちゃんが大好きな女の子と親戚の女の子が可愛くて仕方ない兄ちゃんみたいな感じでめちゃめちゃいいよね
尾形ちゃんのメイン回、いちいち作画良すぎて死にかけた
「お前たちのようなヤツらがいていいはずがないんだ」の演技が凄まじすぎる……尾形はほんとに津田カムイ以外考えられないな
ツダケンか神になってる笑
賛否両論あるけど尾形と鶴見は声優がドンピシャすぎる
他は替えが効くけどこの二人は効かない
@@harapekomajo 津田ニシパじゃないのか笑
俺もやってんのにって、聞こえる。
@@山田太郎-m4e5p鶴見の声好き！
感動シーンすぎるのにこの後のこと思い出して笑いが込み上げてくる
白石の膀胱がパンパンだぜ
ゴールデンシャワー
鯉登もこのゴールデンシャワーの世話になるんよなw（杉元のやけど
あれ唾液じゃだめなのか？オシッコじゃなくて。しかも白石のｗ
安心と安定と信頼の白石由竹
尾形の壮絶な過去もそうだけど、何よりも戦争から心が帰って来てないというか帰って来れないんだろうなって……
生き残れる奴にとったら、こんな面白いものなかったから。時代がね。
0:37 ここのだんだん声がなくなってく感じの言い方すごすぎる…。
尾形一番好きなキャラなんだよなあ‥‥
できれば尾形も幸せになって欲しい、、
分かる すごく分かります。
0:54 ココの表情の変化狂おしいほど好き
いちいち煽ってくる尾形がかわいい
尾形、杉元、アシリパ、3人の想いが交錯するシリアス展開でめちゃめちゃ感情揺さぶられたのに、まさか直後にあんなことするなんて、まさにゴールデンカムイって感じで最低だった(最高だった)。
ゴールデンカムイこれが初見なんだけど、尾形って人の笑みが最高にイカれてて好き
漫画買うわ。
1:06
目吸われてピクピクしてるのいい
正直えっちですよね
ﾋｴｯ
@@Monja-Yaki
こんなえっちがあってたまるかって思ったけど普通にえっちだった
ここのコメント欄の流れガチ草
0:08
ここで「不死身の杉元…！？」って異名まで言うのカッコよくて好き
尾形自身の手で頭撃ったのに生きてたもんだから、その異名の意味を痛感したんだろうね
どっかのブログで
「尾形はアダルトチルドレンのスケープゴート。彼にとって実は人564が一番辛いことで、その地獄を一緒に歩んでくれる人が欲しい」
みたいなこと言っててめちゃくちゃ納得した。
いつか尾形が救われる日が来て欲しい…。
この後、白石に 聖水をかけてもらう 流れになる とは
ゴールデンカムイはどんなシリアスでも どんな 感動 でも ギャグ
を 突っ込まないと気が済まない作品
@Sho めちゃわかるざんす
杉本の判断が速すぎて逆に怖い
One of the reasons why he is still alive. Fast split decision making.
"People like you shouldn't exist" I love the way he tones his voice down. Really adds to his character.
ゴールデンカムイの声優みんな好きだ。3期は特にアシリパさんも杉元も迫力増しててたまらん。
打たれた後に笑ってるのがまじで尾形すぎて尾形…
原作もアニメもここのシーンの疾走感がすごい…
尾形が殺したはずの弟の言葉と未だに互いの存在を否定し合っているのが壮絶で、救われない様がとても悲しい。
もし尾形を救えるものがあるとすれば、それは不死身の化け物の血まみれのキスじゃなくて、弟からの肯定の言葉だけだったのかもしれないね。
逆に肯定の言葉を述べたら述べたで勇作殿が人◯しを認めてるみたいで何とも言えないこの矛盾…
いい考察やんね
「兄様は祝福されて生まれた子供です。」
当たるとも遠からずでしたね
人を平気で殺せる人がいていいはずないんです だっけ？勇作さんの言葉が尾形を否定しているみたいで苦しかったんだろうな…唯一、勇作さんだけは、尾形を愛していたんだと思う。お母さんの愛は尾形のお父さんに向かっていたし…尾形…
0:55「ほらな」ほらなって顔してる
尾形は迷信やジンクスを否定ています。
ヴァシリとの戦闘後、瀕死の尾形を救ったのはそういった民族のジンクスだったのはとても良い皮肉です。
35話は津田さんの演技がすごすぎて鳥肌もんでしたわ・・・
この後、泣きながら笑うという悲と喜が同時に襲ってきて感情がジェットコースター
この話見てなんか尾形と勇作さんはすごく似てると思った。2人とも自分が理解できないものは認められなくて、存在してはいけないと思ってる。
勇作さんは203高地で尾形に撃たれなくてもきっと勇作さんと尾形は永遠に理解しあえなかっただろうな
そういえば尾形と谷垣って対比になってない？
弟を殺した尾形
義弟を殺そうとした谷垣
と狙撃手に単発式のライフルで戦うとことか
@@影森ケセド 谷垣と対比になってるよね。
谷垣はある意味師でもある二瓶の銃を引き継ぎ、妻子を得て第二の人生を歩む反面、尾形は過去を引きずったまま。
@@影森ケセド 尾形と二階堂ちゃんも対比になってると思います。
色んなところに色んな仕掛けがしてあるなあこの漫画。
尾形と杉元も対比になっている
勇作さんが無邪気に尾形の地雷を踏みすぎだと思う今日この頃です。
Ogata is such an interesting character. I want someone to make a whole character analysis video on him. His sociopathic ways are so well-written. Due to growing up without love or affection from his parents, he’s incapable of being sympathetic to others and understanding people’s emotions. But he doesn’t want to believe that he is missing something that other people has and wants to believe that everyone is the same as him. Thus, he claims that no one actually feels any guilt for killing others and that when given the chance, all people will end up showing their dirty sides no matter what their upbringings are. I bet this mindset is also a coping mechanism for self-affirmation and to believe that if circumstances were different, there was a way for him to receive affection from his family for who he is. However, his brother and Asirpa were both purely good people, which went against his beliefs. This was probably why he killed his brother and tried to kill Asirpa. Although, in his brother’s case, as Ogata said before, it was also to find out if his father will start paying attention to him once his brother is gone, which will prove that there was a chance for him to receive love and affection and a chance that his brother could have ended up like him. Unfortunately for him, this plan ended up failing though. He’s basically like a child who’s starving for love but doesn’t realize it because I don’t think he even fully understands his own emotions. He’s also clearly feeling some guilt for killing his brother since I bet he was the only one who ever showed him some affection, but he denies it to uphold his belief. His twisted mindset that he developed as a coping mechanism is basically preventing him from receiving the love that he truly wants, so he is pretty much digging his own grave and moving further away from salvation, which I find it to be very depressing and tragic. I hope he gets at least a satisfying conclusion by the end of the story. He may be unredeemable, but I want him to be saved.
Honestly a deep character analysis would be a great video on this character but one things for certain I know by the end of this the character gonna do something that’s gonna make him die a horrible death
@@ds3rampage154 Aww man. I love Ogata’s character so I would hate for that to happen. But then again, I can see that happening. Ever since his backstory came up, I’ve had a bad feeling that he won’t be having a nice ending.
I might make an analysis video about him in the future, hes my fav character of all time.
Seems like you made the character analysis after all 😅, cool inputs btw.
Even though I'm not a psychologist nor a psychiatrist, I think he's rather a psychopath than a sociopath. Or maybe he suffers from a combination of both problems 🤷♀️ It would be very interesting to read the opinion of an expert on this matter.
In any case, his reasons regarding the hunt of the golden treasure remain a mistery, he clearly wasn't honest to Asirpa so we still don't know why he left the army and made different alliances, first with Hijikata and then with Kiroranke. The manga will reveal this eventually and so will the anime if we ever see a season 4 in the future. Only then we will discover Ogata's true colours.
Sir/madam, you just DID a deep ass character analysis!
Golden Kamuy: An emotional brutal scene followed by a heartfelt reunion
Also Golden Kamuy: Piss on Asirpa's face to remove her eyelid that was frozen onto Sugimoto's button.
How about *that* beach scene?
That s why we love the anime
@@taneli5026 you mean spa scene? Kawaii!
@@brandonyoung5964 I think they ment the clubbing of a seal scene.
And here I thought, Gintama was the weirdest anime/manga ever existed ... GK prove me wrong. lol
0:44 when I saw Sugimoto in this mode, I thought he'd really finish Ogata off. But he saved him instead just to prevent Asirpa from being a murderer 🥺
Ah..., yes Ogata will become Sugimoto's prey at another time.
Hope either of them got killed by Ogata
I wish he did. It would be great for everyone including Ogata.
@@newman4938 no man that's evil
このシーン杉本、本当にかっこよすぎる。鬼の形相のところが本当に。アシリパさんがすぐ立ち直ったのも杉本がいたから。安心感がやばい。尾形も過去のことがあるから複雑だけど射貫かれてあの笑みは本当に凄い。
This anime is hella underrated and it makes me sad . Its a gem
A gem lost in the dirt
Good thing its popular in japan so hopefully we dont have to worry about it not getting another season
season strong seasons, no episode wasted, to say this show is underrated is an understatement, this show is godsend if not a treasure
Cooking animes will do that to you.
there's a couple of benefit being an underrated anime y'know
for example......no toxic fans
もう伝説のシーンやでここは。アニメになるの待ってた。
このあとの杉元の優しい声からのギャグパートね。
尾形を撃ってしまった絶望で重くなった体や足が、心から信頼する人の声ひとつで風のように軽くなる。
愛の持つエネルギー！という感じがして、大好きなシーンです。
杉元の「尾形ァァァ!!!!」が好きすぎる
でもこれ杉元がクソデカ声でアシリパ驚かせてなかったら、普通に尾形に襲いかかって殺してたかもしれないから結果オーライ
その前にアシリパさんを殺される可能性があるから、戦意の無いアシリパより杉本自身を優先させるために意識を向かせようとしたんだと思う
どちらにしろ杉元と尾形が鉢合わせたら殺し合いになったから、アシリパの誤射は結果的に2人の命を救ってるとワイも思う
原作最後まで読んだけど尾形は本当に最後まで報われなかったなぁ…
三八が落ちて杉元の手を取る……このシーンの対比ほんっとうにえぐい……見るたびに吐きそう……すげえ作品……
目に矢が飛んで来ても瞬きもしない辺りほんと怖いわ
最高にかっこいい主人公！
終始アシリパさんのための最善を選択してるのがしびれる
This anime is so underrated it actually makes me sad. It's also one of the most bizarre anime I have ever seen. It's so bizarre for me because the genre shift a LOT. Like one moment it's brutal af, then a lot of action, then suddenly it becomes a slice-of-life cooking, then suddenly becoming comedic as heck, then it randomly shifts again. I wish more people discover this anime.
The gay fan service tho 💀
@@Jonathan-tg7eo Oh yahhh. That "wrestling" scene still lives rent free in my head lmao.
@@Jonathan-tg7eo they're just homies bro😂
@@roronoa_kenshin for the homie
ゴールデンカムイは原作でもキャラの動きのスピード感が好きだわ
戦闘やスポーツものにありがちないつまで喋ってんだ？もこのコートは何百メートルあるんだ？も全くない
即判断行動って感じが緊迫感あっていい
次ページには誰がどうなってるか分からない
自分的にゴルカムの名シーンだと思う 杉元の尾形に対する怒りの顔と尾形の毒矢刺さった時の笑みが凄く良かった アシリパさんの再会も1話のラストシーンっぽくてより絆が深まってるのが伝わってきた
再会シャワーと岩息再登場で笑ったのはまた別の話
ゴールデンカムイの憎くて殺したくてたまらない人間を咄嗟の判断で応急処置を行い救おうとした後に重症患者の横でおしっこかけあう頭おかしい感じが大好き
尾形が好き
One of the most interesting thing in this anime is that there's no heroes or villains. Yes, Sugimoto and Asirpa is the main character but the story follows many more characters. Highlights their background and lives, and they all do what they have to do. The realism makes me not hate any of them.
Ogata is one that character. He's ruthless, he thinks none can be innocent, he believes everyone who kills doesn't bear the guilt like him. But he does have some guilt. I'm glad that he didn't die, I want to see more of him (gotta read the manga since I finished the anime). And that voice of his.... DAMN! Ugh it's dark yet so soothing to hear.
christ, you people act like a show having morally gray characters automatically makes it incredible. There not being 'heroes' or 'villains' doesn't make it deep, that's a common thing in fiction
@@MM-qo2ww Shhhh, lemme enjoy the show and the characters.
@@freeckotreecko have you finished the manga? Then let me tell you something very sad, and also spoiler-y:
Don't read chapter 310
@@brillywinsen6526..... Yes, I did.
My fucking heart.. But I think that's the best way for him to go.
Usami from 7th Division is definitely a villain though
杉本の「この流れでは死なせねぇぞぉ!!あの子を人殺しにはさせねぇ!お前の死に、これっぽっちも関わらせるもんかよ!!」がカッコ良すぎwあとこの直後の杉本、白石、アシリパのやり取りが面白過ぎてw
best anime character of 2020: Ogata Hyakunosuke
Such a great character. I hope to see more of him, as an antagonist or not
@@bittercharmer4870 I see him as a neutral than an antagonist.
Agree with you!!
@@misschocoholic2126 honestly yeah he would be a perfect example of a true neutral, but most of the characters are other than perhaps Asripa and maybe a little bit in Sugimoto since he gets upset about things such as the kid in the performance episode getting hurt and finding the missing girl
@@bittercharmer4870 Haha true.
What makes Ogata so great is that they took a relatively cliche motivator like "daddy issues" and managed to portray it in such a realistic, complex, and dynamic way that even mentioning the clicheness of it feels like an insult to the brilliance of it all.
I like how he kills his father in the end
Cliches become cliches in the first place because, when you actually do them well, they *work*.
Though what makes it even better is that it’s never truly clear if this resulted from neglect during his childhood, or if he was just always like this. The nature vs nurture was he always just so disconnected from his empathy and sense of love or was he molded into being that from due to neglect.
0:37 that voice!!!
XD i love deadly voice
The only time Ogata spoke the truth.
この後小便をかけられるとは思えないシーン
感情ジャイアントスイングされた回だったわ
本当にもう、泣いていいやら笑っていいやらw
パンパンだぜ
杉元さんとアシリパさんの再会に泣いたのはもちろんだけど、尾形さんが目を打たれた瞬間〜目元を切って応急処置されてる時の痛みで苦しんでる顔を見たら、ぶわぁって涙が出た。尾形さん…。
痛いのは、生きている証拠
really, this is the best scene for me. The expression of hate that Sugimoto made was surreal, that part gave me goosebumps too much!!
The best scene despite or thanks to the following scene?
one big happy reunion, even Ogata smiled Lol
ある意味だけど、尾形はアシリパに対して一種の愛情を潜在的に求めてるんじゃないかなとどこかで自分をわかって欲しいみたいなのはありそう。
このシーン一緒に観てた尾形推しの友達が、目に矢が刺さったの観た瞬間「(潰れた目玉分)尾形が…百之助が減っちゃったぁああ！！！」って言いながら飛び上がってシワシワピカチュウみたいな面になったから、「無くなった目玉分太ればいいんじゃね」ってテキトー言ったら「そっか！尾形ァ〜、美味しいもんいっぱい食べて、いっぱい寝て、幸せになってくれェ〜。」ってニコニコでナムナムし始めたの思い出した。推しってすげぇなって思った。
過去、尾形は勇作の「人を殺して罪悪感を微塵も感じない人間がこの世にいて良いはずがない」呪いの言葉にとらわれ続けていて、この場面ではアシㇼパを勇作に重ねて「お前達のような奴らがいて良いはずがないんだ」(道理があれば人は人を殺せる。
心から清い人間なんて存在しない)「お前の父親を殺したのは俺だ」アシㇼパを煽って矢を撃たせようとします。尾形が求める物は金塊ではなく、本心ではアシㇼパに魂の救済を求めています。
救済じゃなくてほら見ろって言いたかったんじゃないの？
原作最後まで読んだ今、その結果はさらに衝撃だったけど
アシㇼパさんは、鶴見中尉からは(目の色で)ウィルクに、尾形からは(不殺で)勇作に重ねて見られていましたね。
@@uPekhjwnh1
ほらみろ。といいたいのも甘えの一種。
甘えを切り捨てた上で暴力的にすくい上げてぽいっ。
したのが、杉元。
だから、尾形の救い（妄想の勇作殿）は、アシリパの瞳と杉元の面影を持っていた。そう思っている
尾形の救い＝妄想の勇作殿＝救世主イエスが、
勇作とアシリパと杉元の三位一体になっているのが悲しい
@@colocalo100 自分はそうは思わないから解釈違いですね
After the S3 patch, Ogata was nerfed by making him blind in one eye.
杉元が血吸って吐き出すシーンなんかえろい
やっぱ死んだ顔してるやつが生き生きした瞬間のギャップが好きなんよ
This is a very good cooking anime.
アシリパ小さいんだから、そういう状況でも殺さないってのはあり得るだろって思ったけど。
そういえば同じくらいの頃に誰に言われずとも、尾形は母親を殺してあげてるんだった
殺して『あげてる』…
その表現、グー👍
このシーンの杉元めちゃくちゃかっこいいよな
the way everything goes silent the moment we see Sugimoto behind Ogata and the track that starts right after Ogata gets shot in the eye, perfection.
最高すぎる主人公
Boy, kenjriou tsuda is a fucking god, I love his voice so much. Every character he has voiced is sick.
Have you seen Id: Invaded? he voices the main character and its *chef's kiss*
@@Assilem-oc9qe I have, also an amazing anime. Virtually every character he has voiced is good. New series about some ex yakuza that's a houseman has Kenjirou as well voicing the main character.
@@sirnunyabuiz6529 ooooh nice I'll have to check it out
Kaiba: "And my name is not "Koiba"!,
Joey: "Nyeh..."
この辺りのBGMが神すぎる
家永カノ👁
「おまえも目ん玉にチューしてるじゃねえか！」
（正確には目ん玉があった部分でしたか）
もしもアシリパさんがもっとふてぶてしかったら……
アシリパ
「私の不殺の誓いを守ってくれ！目ん玉しゃぶっていいぞ杉元！」
杉元 ﾊﾌﾞｯ
「ちっちゃあい❤︎」
The parallels between this and how Ogata and Asirpa's characters wrap up in the manga make this scene even better.
そして、この後である…
尾形救われて欲しかった。悲しい
アシリパさんは清さを捨てても杉本と共に地獄に堕ちる覚悟を決めた。勇作さんは尾形がいつか自分の想いが届く、清い場所に辿り着くことを願った。能動と受動。神聖の象徴みたいな二人の真逆の言葉と思想。
結果として最期の最期に、尾形の命をもってして勇作さんの想いは遂げられたけど。もし勇作さんがアシリパさんの様に尾形の場所まで堕ちる覚悟を決めていたら、この兄弟にはどんな未来があったんだろう。
それはそれで悲劇しかないような気もするしなぁ。やっぱり原作のあの流れが一番綺麗だ。
アシリパさん助ける時、口真っ赤のままでもリアルでよかったなあ
もっと言うなら血を吸った後は歯も赤くなるから、それでもよかったなぁ
やっぱり尾形もだけど杉元すきだなぁ…
アシリパさんとの再会と尾形の感情...このシーン何回見ても涙出るんだけど...
I thought it was a coincidence when I read the manga version, then realized there are no coincidences with Noda. That scene with Sugimoto sucking on Ogata's eye, with Ogata's face turned and Sugimoto's gripping his chin and head. That's Gustav Klimt's The Kiss.
After reading this, I looked at Klimts work again. And googeling on, I found the artist Ogata Korin who actually inspired Klimts golden backgrounds and style of work. This is so cool! He united two great artists in two figures through this scene.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's true. What I love about Noda is that he's clearly having fun doing his job. That Appetite for Destruction parody gave me a hearty smile when I first saw it.
@@theresalwayssomethingtobui944 Oh wow, great sleuthing! I did not know this!
wow...... you’re right. thank u for this
You don't even know how I've been waiting for this to get animated :') One of the best manga out there...
0:17 尾形「流石だ杉本X…」
My jaw dropped when Asirpa shot Ogata in the eye. It further dropped when Sugimoto saved him.
And dropped even more when Shiraishi...
この感動のシーンからの放尿王である
My favorite part is still the FACT that Ogata used Sugimotos moniker in his head.
尾形は推しだけど、マジいちいちキモイって思って推してる。キモイくて救いようがないとこがいいんだよ尾形は。
アシリパさんに｢人殺し｣のレッテルを貼らせない為とはいえ、杉本の｢この流れでは死なせねぇぞ！あの子を人殺しにはさせねぇ、お前の死に、これっぽっちも関わらせるもんかよ！！｣格好よすぎ
尾形はサイコパスか否か、と是非を問われているが,,,俺はサイコパスではないと思う。他人から自らを否定されるよりも、己が己を否定することを怖れる臆病者な獣に見える。
信じられるか？
この後ギャグシーンになるんだぜ？
片目くりぬかれた尾形の横でおしっこかけてたのかw
最悪尾形にもかかってそう()
That violin after he gets shot in the eye is amazing
This season was so good..
杉元の鬼のような顔がすこ
このアニメ、日本語のちょっとした言い回しや言葉遣いや文化をのちの伏線を回収するために使われているから
わずかなニュアンスをも楽しめるのは日本語のネイティブスピーカーでしかないと思う。
要は、日本人に生まれて
この作品に出会えて良かったなってこと。
何度か、アニメ版ゴールデンカムイを見て思う。なんで、尾形が好きなんだろう。🤔こんなに、怖いキャラなのに。
0:44 アシリパさんのSECOMが来たぞ‼︎
かっこよすぎて言葉も出ない
That my first time I've seen ogata looks scared
agree* it seems sugimuto refuses to kill him* because he needs a piece of information from him*
Don't correct people when your grammar is even worse.
@Lex 666 agreed. Spoiler: he is hella smart for escaping from hospital when sugimoto almost kill him.