Last season when Micheal Oliver failed to send off Kovacic for two clear yellow card offenses…. the “Chief Refereeing Officer” for the PGMOL Howard Webb came out and said the reason Kovacic wasn’t sent off was because Micheal Oliver didn’t want to ruin the biggest game of the season by sending off the player. Now can someone please explain to me why less than a year later Micheal Oliver thought sending off Trossard for something less sinister than Kovacic’s two yellow card offences wouldn’t also ruined the biggest game of the season? Consistency is all we ask for!
@@rhysagrey don’t tell porkies - what you want is for the ref to always be on your side - what Trossard did was petulant beyond belief and everyone knows where he gets that from - let’s hope it continues!
@@dirtydawg448where's the lie?? What he said is fact. The irony of a city fan saying we just want the ref on our side, is laughable. It can't be one rule for one team and another one for city. Simple.
@@sliqvuemedia2083 doku kicked the ball watch again Szobozlai kicked the ball watch again Pedro kicked the ball watch again yet Trossard and Rice are the only one punished 🤣 According to Opta the ball was in play more than any other game in pl this season and yet it was 7+2 extra time. Google it if you dont believe 🤣 referees are helping city there is no doubt about it so shut up
Right. And for that I thought the yellow came for a harsh challenge, looked like to me he had only one thing in mind and that was landing his elbow somewhere to make enough contact to bring the guy down. To me that was a yellow not kicking the ball which to the minimum he could have got the benefit of the doubt from the ref due to timing of the whistle
▪︎Arsenal Dark Arts exposed ▪︎Blocking players on Corners ▪︎Trossard dives on Silva from Behind ▪︎Targeting players to injure ▪︎Journalists asking hows this legal in PL?😂
@@rikkidykes1770u haven’t won the champions league u can’t even win the Europa league lmao yall don’t ever get tired of being the most embarrassing fanbase in the world
fker Ref asked Doku to pass the ball to that place by POINTING there. I dunno what you arsenal fans dont understand about that. About Haaland more often than not he is at the receiving end of fouls. For once he slipped past refs notice and you lot act like its you against the world. Pathetic
Doku tapped the ball back to where the ref was indicating the free kick needed to be taken from! He was actually speeding the game up. Arsenal are the best team in the league when it comes to wasting time. The premier league is failing everyone by not preventing Arsenal from waisting time! You can’t then complain about 7 minutes of added on time. The reason it went over the 7 minutes was because Arsenal were constantly waisting time during added time 🤦🏻
maybe,, and maybe if the ref would have given Doku a yellow then it would have set an example and Trossard would not have kicked the ball. And maybe because the Ref didn't then the players feel a bit more freedom, who knows. Stupid rule, stupid ref, ruined the game
@@villa_fan8882where have you got 7 minutes from. Absolutely ludicrous. It amazes me how a ref can fail to consider the limited possession and high running a team can have with 10 men. The only time wasting was Raya. The other cramp incidents are warranted. There wasn’t 7 minutes worth of time wasting. The goal was scored closer to the 98th minute. It’s a harsh reality of the modern game. 6 minutes of added time in the first half. 14 additional minutes of play from where. The irony that Rodri moans about additional games and he goes off injured and time wasted after 2 seconds, do me a favour
@@farturinn I disagree, mate. I think it’s a good rule, time waisting in the prem has become infuriating to watch! They should add every second lost due to injuries. I was watching a Duncan Edwards documentary the other day and players used to do all they could to stay on their feet. Refs need to stop giving soft free kicks and more bookings to players for diving.
City players mentioning that the Arsenal use all the tricks in the book!!! Don't make me laugh, especially when the club has 115 charges against them for allegedly cheating Premiership rules over the years.
Its absolute nonsense . There is no evidence of that at all. There are a few TH-cam videos with that headline and they show a picture of Colinna and some dip stick quoting Colima but he is not to be heard at all. One video has an interview with no sound . There is no evidence Colina said that at all . If you have , have the balls to post an interview in Italian or whatever language that proves he actually said it . This is how nonsense spreads online . An idiot talking bs and another just copying it .
😂😂😂😂 trossard kicking the ball away, pure stupidity. When did you speak to Collina? All we know is arsenal bottled it again. Like they always do. First rice, now trossard 😂 they need to learn the rules of the game, not cry about the mistakes they made. Embarrassing 😂😂
I don't get these talk show people. Why is Simon saying Arteta is deflecting? What about the Doku one? The coach is just tired of it all. Can we all understand now why Klopp decided to leave???
Doku was playing the ball to the spot where the free kick was to be played. That’s speeding the game up, the opposite of what Trossard did by booting the ball away. It’s not that difficult. And yes, Arteta is deflecting as is all too common with him. Arsenal were unlucky because they killed off the game well and largely defended brilliantly but just didn’t get the rub of the green at the end.
@@jonathanmarkham1998 Doku doesn't decide where the kick should be taken from. I think that's the ref's job. And I'm sure when he kicked it, it certainly would have passed where the kick was to be taken from if left to travel. Wouldn't that have counted as a delay? Was Rodri also speeding the game when he feigned that injury at the start???
Even the EPL had to go back and forth on what the yellow was actually for on theory twitter feed. Cmon bro. This is the type of refereeing that makes English teams so soft in the UCL these days.
well of course the team who grabs a last minute equalizer against their biggest title threat is going to celebrate. If it were the other way round, Arsenal would celebrate exactly the same and City would be the gutted ones.
@@villa_fan8882 it’s even dumber than that if you think about it - firstly it was so obviously a foul and Trossard knew that when he did it - secondly that was in no way a pass - not in a million years - thirdly the muppet was already on a yellow - and then Arteta comes out and defends him - what a DH - he has already had a player sent off for doing exactly the same thing ffs but clearly hasn’t learnt from it and so neither have his players - dumb and dumber!
Blowing the whistle when a player is in his kicking stride is completely different to a player having multiple seconds to react to the whistle. This double jeaprody rule is ridiculous, just add on the extra time, and give cards for dissent if it's blatant. This within a second bs is too subjective and inconsistent
Why are fans not getting this, it's cut and dry trossard was a silly boy,already on a yellow card don't give the referee a reason to send you off, trossard should have been sent off it's as simple as that
@Andy-p2u8s have the same energy for every instance of this then. Personally I think it's a idiotic rule to enforce unless it's blatantly after the whistle. Is every shirt pull a card, by the letter of the law it is etc etc
@@AC_830 the doku incident wasn't a booking if you watch it again, the players know the rules, trossard knew exactly what he was doing, he let his team down just a very stupid boy
I’m absolutely loving being an Arsenal fan right now. It feels like we’re living rent-free in the minds of fans from other clubs, and honestly, it’s the best feeling in football. COYG
Missing the point again Webb came to tv and told us the same Michael Oliver didnt send Kovacic off last szn at emirates because he didn't want to 'destroy' the game so what changes when its other teams not named city
So because they got it wrong last year they should get it wrong every year until the end of time? Maybe they learned from their mistakes and corrected it for this season?
@@TheHonestSpeaker but they did though. If the argument is that kovacic should have been sent off last year and not doing so just to not “destroy” a big game was wrong, then surely sending off tossard in spite of it being a big game was correct and therefore they have learned from that mistake? Can’t have it both ways
@@Graziak5 So please point out where the card for Doku is then? Where's the card for Haaland throwing a ball in the back of a players head? Where's his yellow for running into a player on kick off?
@@UphillGardener-ly5sh No, he did not, but if you listen to him, that’s what he was on about especially when he gave Liverpool as an example. Ask him who won the premiership in a season he was not in it and I doubt he would know
Only two players booked for delaying a restart, out of all the PL games played this season. There is no letter of the law, there is just one rule for Arsenal doing this, and one rule for every other team in the Premier League. There have been lots and lots of instances with other players delaying the restart and not one other booking. Just apply the rules the same way for every side.
Other teams smarter . Think about the stupid Gabriel handball against Bayern . Arsenal players lack professional standards when it comes to the very basics .
@@wengelder9256other teams smarter? Brightons Pedro did it against Arsenal in the same game before Rice got 2nd yellow but nothing for Pedro. Yesterday Doku did it in the same game just before Trossard got 2nd yellow. Nothing for Pedro. Open your eyes 😂
@@wornyodelrecordsPedro should have got a yellow, it’s a mistake get over it, still doesn’t mean Rice and Trossard shouldn’t have been given yellow cards. Also, Doku did not kick the ball away, they are not comparable.
@@bobsocks7575 I was replying to the previous comment that stated other teams didn’t get yellows for same thing because they are smarter. That’s obviously bs and you obviously agree with me so get over it and don’t waste my time.
Trossard kicked it at 45+7 and it was supposed to be only till +6. He could've easily construed it to be the half time whistle, which came after 1 kick.
Pundits again talking about inconsistency. Thats BS. Real issue is Premier League is corrupt & referreeing decisions always favour Man City - the richest club in the history of the EPL. No pundit will say this but how many decisions keep going in Man City's favour like the penalty not given to Liverpool that probably denied them the title?
Rodri ran into Havertz at kick off and threw himself to the floor like a cheat. Seemed to set the tone for the game. The things some City players and fans are complaining about are commonplace in modern football, things that the governing bodies have let go for decades. Yes it's annoying. I don't know why it hasn't been addressed, there are lots of simple measures that can be taken to reduce gamesmanship
Was trossard unaware he was smacking into a player then? Do me a favour. Unfair or not with the ref or earlier with doku. Let's not pretend he didn't foul a player, which he could of had another yellow for then kicked the ball away. Why do it, why give the ref the choice. Arsenal are always feel sorry for me. Trossard shouldn't have given a decision to be made, end of.
@John-ms6bv you can foul them, was plenty of fouls around. But a shove in someone's back when they are going for a header, when you are on a yellow, isn't really advised, is it. Stop crying victim constantly it's boring. So your opinion is, trossard did nothing wrong? Just a shove in the back, kick the ball away after the whistle, and he's hard done by? Do me a favour. On a yellow, you shouldn't be fouling anyone no, kicking the ball away after aswel, not so smart.
Need to take Oliver out of these big games, he’s getting too many big reckons wrong…yesterday / Kacacic last season / Doku at Anfield. One thing is common all decision in favour of MC and this has last year / this year will influence the title. Ars/Liv/MU should be asking for a change if appointed.
I agree with everything they said here. Arsenal players are going to have to learn their lesson about the new rules. City Players are rattled, Bernando Silva talking about Liverpool, because Liverpool never beat them when they needed to win the league.
I could have put money on the fact that Michael Oliver was going to either send one of our players off, award a penalty against us, or deny us a penalty….I remember the bizarre sending off of Martinelli when he sent off against Wolves for 2 offences in the same phase it cannot be a coincidence that he as sent off a total of 7 Arsenal Players in his career more than any other team..ALSO last season Arsenal were lambasted for over celebrating a win by the whole world yet did you see Man City Players Whooping it up when they equalised against a ten man Arsenal team it was as if they had won the Premiership..THEY HAVE NO SHAME!!
Rules are rules. If the rules are going to be applied, then the rules need to be applied for EVERYONE. How much did Michael Oliver have riding on the game, or how much is he being paid under the table by Man City.
Given the concern the FA now put on head injuries to players , and inforcing the rules how come Haaland wasn't sent off for deliberately smacking an unsuspecting Gabriel in the back of the head . Seems the Rules are implemented very preferably
He's a total clown for doing it but come on pal. Gabriel isn't so weak that having a ball lobbed at his back/back of his head is going to injure him! If he'd gone down claiming an injury he'd be ridiculed as Rodri should be too from the incident at the KO - looked like almost nothing if anything in it!
Jim this is the reason why English referees weren't selected at VAR at Euro, you people you always support nonsense to suit your situation. What did Howard Webb say last season after not sending Kovasic? What has happened this season?😢
Brilliant attempt at a pass from Trossard! If he didn't kick the ball at the height of its bounce then the oncoming City player intercepts and stops a run on goal from Martinelli. Watch it again.
No matter how nit picky some of the laws may be they should be applied at all times to all teams. This is the main issue which is in ref's hands and this has not been fairly applied. Arsenal has been scrutinized while most of their opponents have not. WHY?
City really do come across as a bit sensitive here. Get a big decision which is probably right but ref should have blown at HT well before that. They couldn’t the game and complaining and moaning.
Hang about both Arsenal goals could have been disallowed on another day and Raya would have been off by the 60th minute if the ref had the balls. City were more sinned against than sinning in this game overall.
33 games left. We have a lovely title race this year. Top 3 + hopefully at least one of Spurs, Utd, Chelsea, Villa can step up and make it a juicy 4 way! LFG!
If the refe decide to treat you different, there is no point in arguing about learning lessons. If it is not this, they find a way to send off as we saw in previous season. Better call for consistency of application. That all.
Can somebody tell Bernado Silver that Arsenal were winning League Championships when his poxy club was slumming it in league one. Since when were City so nostalgic about Liverpool?
We are a worldclass striker away from being an incredible force. Yea havertz has done well, he ain't getting us 20+ goals though We've let osimhen go Turkey smh
It's a funny old game.....City player whining about one team didn't come to play. One of the first things Guardiola did years ago was instruct his players to intentionally foul on the half way line to stop any attacks likely to lead to goals. It was such an obvious tactic. But it worked. Not just tippy tappy, pass your way round. He added a different kind of aggression - go get the ball back when you lose it. And ruthless 'professionalism'. He is a winner. But the blatant halfway fouling thing worked, often the away team fell short in the match because of it, for example a last minute equaliser. Still came unstuck against signore Carlo Ancelloti though. COUS!!!!! Love u RoRo & Chico. xx
VAR is the problem, as we’ve heard on sky sports mic’d up that VAR are basically commentating in the onfield refs ear. Basically the refs trying to concentrate on the game but also on the VAR running commentary!
“If the Refs apply the Law”. Well they only seem to be applying the Law to Arsenal and nobody else. We saw incidents against Brighton, Spurs and Man City all going unpunished. Arsenal do it and the cards come out. All fans are asking for is consistency. The Referees in the EPL are appalling.
I agree. This isn't the first time it's happened. Arsenal have made the same mistake twice. Whether referee is consistent or not is completely irrelevant here. Had he sent him off for literally no reason then you could've argued. Arsenal need to keep their head cool. This has happened again. Kicking the ball away in frustration? Like who tf even are you? Ronaldo or Messi? Like Halland said, learn to be humble. Look at what you are doing wrong, don't focus on what mistakes others are making. You're only allowed to do that if you've done everything right and after that you got screwed.
You never played football or any sport to say that TalksPort and so called journalist. Tell me how a player that plays the ball like he was playing after less than a 2 sec after the wishtle can stop playing like a robot ???? Tell me ????
We will not see players sent of for delaying the restart again and again as the rule is clear that it only applies to those who play in red and white AND are a North London based club.
It was a yellow card. And it was his 2nd. Therefore a sending off. He made 0 attempt at getting the ball. You can’t just barge into players from behind with no aim but to knock the player over😊
“If the referee applies the law” is the issue all football fans have. In inconsistent nature of referees drives us mad. Also, was delaying a restart ever even an issue? I cannot think of a time that it bothered me before. Feels like the refs have backed themselves into a corner with the Rice one a few weeks ago and are trying to retrospectively make out that it’s a big focus this season.
People keep talking about arsenal players but nothing about doku who did even worse... Then there's haaland throwing the ball against Gabriel's head and hard... crickets!!!
Damn right it diminished the game, it's hard enough goin there with the full 11 on the field. wtf with silva sayin we never won the premier league ,we used to go to main rd & turn these f***** over virtually every season , & it was nice to hear a couple of seasons ago when noel gallagher explained to his son when he said oh it's arsenal 3 points at the w/end ,that's what we used to say about city home or away oh that's 3 points until they were taken over & all this money came in, like he said we got them rattled & they didn't like us takin the piss on there manor ,yeah there's a case dependin on what side of the fence your on for the added time, the 2 yellows & the declan rice yellow ,football is within limits a physical contact sport, it's an emotional on the (spur 🤬😁)of the moment at that moment in time decisions ,BUT THE REFFEREES ARNT BEIN ALLOWED TO REF THE GAME & USE COMMON SENCE LIKE IN MY DAY ,& sometimes it's down to if you have played the game yourself you understand what it's like to be in that moment & things just happen, that my footballin friends used to be the beautiful game but it's bein ruined by bureaucracy, & red tape
Arsenal took it to City the whole first half, until trossard got sent off. Any manager with 10 men is going to sit behind the ball with everything and try Defend their lead. It damn nearly paid off. City don’t like how good arsenal are, end of, they know it’s going to be a hard season ahead
Why is everyone suddenly using the word "needle" is this way? It's weird how all the companies start saying the same stuff at the same time.. how could that happen?
The over the top credit Arsenal is getting from being to 10 men is rather silly, there are many examples in the premier league and accross the top leagues were a 10 man team holds firm for a draw or wins it due a lead they have taken. Nobody is denying Arsenal defended very well for 45-50 min with 10 men but its getting rather obnoxious now that the make it sound like its a God like miracle. Even Roy Keane despite all the pandering from all the pundits about Arsenals defense said "they still conceded 2 goals".
Yeah true , how many teams have done that at the Etihad ? I think that’s the difference here , the magnitude and the strength of the dominant Man City team - we can’t deny that the sheer quality of the Man City team is the reason why Arsenal’s performance is being spotlighted. 100% this scenario has happened many times in football , defending your lead or fighting for a draw with playing with 10 men - but - again - how many times at the Etihad
It is Arteta who drilled these cheating ways into their head. The youngster who has not even kicked a ball even got a yellow for telling Raya to time waste from the side lines. Pathetic lol
😂 hold on are they saying city vs Liverpool werent proper games? The football on show was of the higest quality 😂 guess some can only appreciate football via tough tackles lmfao
When Arsenal were just emerging as title contenders and city won against them, the diving diva Silva was praising them, when Liverpool were challenging them, then he called them dirty. Now all he has is praise lol. If his team, 115, won yesterday, he’d have praised Arsenal lol. Wouldn’t brag about those titles either, no one actually recognises and will recognise less after 115. We can all do great things when we cheat.
These pundits are being disingenuous. Why is the bloody letter of the law being applied ONLY to Arsenal???? How does that compare to Howard Webb's comments last season with 2 leg braking tackles by Kovacic? Everyone is using the fancy word - Inconsistency. The right word to use is "bias" or worse "corruption"?
Ffs doku did not kick the ball “away” he kicked it to where the ref said the free kick was! You see the ref clearly stating that! Trossard hoofed the ball away! The 2 incidents are not the same, trossard was stupid like rice and rightly was sent off - simple
Only Arsenal must learn...I get it. Talksport why not call out the incompetent refereeing...why not check the games Michael Oliver refereed last season and now this season and check his inconsistencies and the excuses they made?
MC players all acting like spoilt kids, surrounding and pressurising ref on every decision. Walker/Haaland/Silva all senior players should look themselves in the mirror. Did Oliver even consider Trossard may have not heard the whistle as he followed the ball in the same motion…benefit of doubt but City players all over ref straight away not allowing Oliver to even take a breath for a second…appalling behaviour!
It was a booking anyway. Player gets booked for contraventions. Shock! Let’s face it Arsenal got off with 2 goals that could or should have been disallowed and Raya should have been off by the 60th minute if the ref had any balls.
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Last season when Micheal Oliver failed to send off Kovacic for two clear yellow card offenses…. the “Chief Refereeing Officer” for the PGMOL Howard Webb came out and said the reason Kovacic wasn’t sent off was because Micheal Oliver didn’t want to ruin the biggest game of the season by sending off the player.
Now can someone please explain to me why less than a year later Micheal Oliver thought sending off Trossard for something less sinister than Kovacic’s two yellow card offences wouldn’t also ruined the biggest game of the season?
Consistency is all we ask for!
@@rhysagrey don’t tell porkies - what you want is for the ref to always be on your side - what Trossard did was petulant beyond belief and everyone knows where he gets that from - let’s hope it continues!
Eshhhhhh Stupid@@dirtydawg448
@@dirtydawg448no. We want the ref to referee the match, not make different decisions based off the same offence. Quite simple
@@beepeeayy that’s just a flat out lie
@@dirtydawg448where's the lie?? What he said is fact. The irony of a city fan saying we just want the ref on our side, is laughable. It can't be one rule for one team and another one for city. Simple.
TROSSARD KICKED THE BALL BEFORE THE WHISTLE WAS BLOWN, WATCH IT AGAIN!!!!
@@sliqvuemedia2083 doku kicked the ball watch again
Szobozlai kicked the ball watch again
Pedro kicked the ball watch again yet Trossard and Rice are the only one punished 🤣
According to Opta the ball was in play more than any other game in pl this season and yet it was 7+2 extra time.
Google it if you dont believe 🤣 referees are helping city there is no doubt about it so shut up
Right. And for that I thought the yellow came for a harsh challenge, looked like to me he had only one thing in mind and that was landing his elbow somewhere to make enough contact to bring the guy down. To me that was a yellow not kicking the ball which to the minimum he could have got the benefit of the doubt from the ref due to timing of the whistle
Arsenal is in Man City’s head… love it
Yeh in our heads and dreams us on the top step you one rung down😂😂
@@anthonyfinnigan7997 English please
Of a team that has 0 titles in 20 years? Lmao
@@GermanChickenwing yeah that’s why it’s even more funny 🤣
@@GermanChickenwing 0 titles in 57 years until 2012. Once Arsenal get to that long maybe you can give it 😂
Benardo Silva is a knob
You forgot to add he a Champion too
But he's a winner
▪︎Arsenal Dark Arts exposed
▪︎Blocking players on Corners
▪︎Trossard dives on Silva from Behind
▪︎Targeting players to injure
▪︎Journalists asking hows this legal in PL?😂
For starters Arsenal have won more trophies in their history than Man City, so Bernardo needs to check his facts before spouting utter nonsense.
@@rikkidykes1770u haven’t won the champions league u can’t even win the Europa league lmao yall don’t ever get tired of being the most embarrassing fanbase in the world
If Trossards card was right, where were the cards for Doku and Haaland for the same offence?
fker Ref asked Doku to pass the ball to that place by POINTING there. I dunno what you arsenal fans dont understand about that. About Haaland more often than not he is at the receiving end of fouls. For once he slipped past refs notice and you lot act like its you against the world. Pathetic
Doku tapped the ball back to where the ref was indicating the free kick needed to be taken from! He was actually speeding the game up.
Arsenal are the best team in the league when it comes to wasting time. The premier league is failing everyone by not preventing Arsenal from waisting time! You can’t then complain about 7 minutes of added on time. The reason it went over the 7 minutes was because Arsenal were constantly waisting time during added time 🤦🏻
maybe,, and maybe if the ref would have given Doku a yellow then it would have set an example and Trossard would not have kicked the ball. And maybe because the Ref didn't then the players feel a bit more freedom, who knows.
Stupid rule, stupid ref, ruined the game
@@villa_fan8882where have you got 7 minutes from. Absolutely ludicrous. It amazes me how a ref can fail to consider the limited possession and high running a team can have with 10 men. The only time wasting was Raya. The other cramp incidents are warranted. There wasn’t 7 minutes worth of time wasting. The goal was scored closer to the 98th minute. It’s a harsh reality of the modern game. 6 minutes of added time in the first half. 14 additional minutes of play from where. The irony that Rodri moans about additional games and he goes off injured and time wasted after 2 seconds, do me a favour
@@farturinn I disagree, mate. I think it’s a good rule, time waisting in the prem has become infuriating to watch! They should add every second lost due to injuries. I was watching a Duncan Edwards documentary the other day and players used to do all they could to stay on their feet. Refs need to stop giving soft free kicks and more bookings to players for diving.
City players mentioning that the Arsenal use all the tricks in the book!!! Don't make me laugh, especially when the club has 115 charges against them for allegedly cheating Premiership rules over the years.
ARSENAL WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
THEY HAVE A LOSER MENTALITY
THE RED CARTEL ARE OWNED BY AMERICAN 🇺🇸 PIRATES 🏴☠️
DISGUSTING 🤮
Cry on . Viva City treble winners
@@brianslade1046 ARSENAL WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
THEY HAVE A LOSER MENTALITY
THE RED CARTEL ARE OWNED BY AMERICAN 🇺🇸 PIRATES 🏴☠️
DISGUSTING 🤮
City have not been charged with anything. Learn to read. 👍🏿
Innocent until proven otherwise. So hold that L
Pierluigi Collina best referee ever. Most respected by everyone said Michael Oliver's decision of giving Trossard a red card sheer stupidity.
Its absolute nonsense . There is no evidence of that at all. There are a few TH-cam videos with that headline and they show a picture of Colinna and some dip stick quoting Colima but he is not to be heard at all. One video has an interview with no sound . There is no evidence Colina said that at all . If you have , have the balls to post an interview in Italian or whatever language that proves he actually said it .
This is how nonsense spreads online . An idiot talking bs and another just copying it .
😂😂😂😂 trossard kicking the ball away, pure stupidity. When did you speak to Collina? All we know is arsenal bottled it again. Like they always do. First rice, now trossard 😂 they need to learn the rules of the game, not cry about the mistakes they made. Embarrassing 😂😂
Who tf is that guy 😂? Some retired bum from the 90? The game has changed since. Keep up fella
@@zaza_268 He's a lot more successful and known that you and your entire family tree will ever be.
Stop making up rubbish!
I don't get these talk show people. Why is Simon saying Arteta is deflecting? What about the Doku one? The coach is just tired of it all. Can we all understand now why Klopp decided to leave???
ARSENAL WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
THEY HAVE A LOSER MENTALITY
THE RED CARTEL ARE OWNED BY AMERICAN 🇺🇸 PIRATES 🏴☠️
DISGUSTING 🤮
Doku was playing the ball to the spot where the free kick was to be played. That’s speeding the game up, the opposite of what Trossard did by booting the ball away. It’s not that difficult.
And yes, Arteta is deflecting as is all too common with him. Arsenal were unlucky because they killed off the game well and largely defended brilliantly but just didn’t get the rub of the green at the end.
@@jonathanmarkham1998 Doku doesn't decide where the kick should be taken from. I think that's the ref's job. And I'm sure when he kicked it, it certainly would have passed where the kick was to be taken from if left to travel. Wouldn't that have counted as a delay?
Was Rodri also speeding the game when he feigned that injury at the start???
Even the EPL had to go back and forth on what the yellow was actually for on theory twitter feed. Cmon bro. This is the type of refereeing that makes English teams so soft in the UCL these days.
@@riclerico CORRUPT CLUB OWNED BY AMERICAN 🇺🇸 PIRATES 🏴☠️
Honestly Simon Jordan speaks alot of sense.
Maybe. He just says things overly bluntly for effect. Not something I care for, but he’s not far wrong here.
One of the teams felt gutted having to settle for a draw after 99 minutes. The other celebrated the equalizer like they had just survived relegation,
One team went top of the league. The other is sat in fourth.
One team wins trophies for fun every season and one team hasn’t won a trophy in years 😂😂😂
One team will playing in League 1 soon and one team will still be playing in the Prem. 😂😂😂
@@jb-bf4pm Steady on. I know Arsenal play like Stoke, but they're not *that* bad.
well of course the team who grabs a last minute equalizer against their biggest title threat is going to celebrate. If it were the other way round, Arsenal would celebrate exactly the same and City would be the gutted ones.
Silva and Haaland behaving like spoiled children. It’s embarrassing
while arsenal behave like bad losers even though a draw, poor form both sides. least be honest about both sides not just cherry pick.
But very funny
Haarland throwing the ball at Gabriel’s head after City scored is a yellow card or red card. Oh hang on it’s City so it’s a pat on the back 🤷♂️
Arsenal players getting on top of the keeper 😂 embarrassing
@@PaulToolan-u2h didn't hurt him you know what they say no feeling cause no sense
this refree bias at talkshit is getting over the top not even trying to hide it anymore
Explain the bais then? Na didn’t think so
That's a nonsense rule. I presume specifically made for Arteta's Arsenal.
There was 0.5 seconds between the whistle being blown and trossard passing to martinelli. Pull the other one fellas
So the whistle did go before he kicked it 🤦🏻 point proven, dry your eyes and get a grip..
Trossard passing to Martinelli 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s not a pass, that’s a hoof
@@villa_fan8882 it’s even dumber than that if you think about it - firstly it was so obviously a foul and Trossard knew that when he did it - secondly that was in no way a pass - not in a million years - thirdly the muppet was already on a yellow - and then Arteta comes out and defends him - what a DH - he has already had a player sent off for doing exactly the same thing ffs but clearly hasn’t learnt from it and so neither have his players - dumb and dumber!
@@dirtydawg448 😂🤣😂🤣 well said mate! Couldn’t agree, more.
Blowing the whistle when a player is in his kicking stride is completely different to a player having multiple seconds to react to the whistle. This double jeaprody rule is ridiculous, just add on the extra time, and give cards for dissent if it's blatant. This within a second bs is too subjective and inconsistent
Why are fans not getting this, it's cut and dry trossard was a silly boy,already on a yellow card don't give the referee a reason to send you off, trossard should have been sent off it's as simple as that
@Andy-p2u8s have the same energy for every instance of this then. Personally I think it's a idiotic rule to enforce unless it's blatantly after the whistle. Is every shirt pull a card, by the letter of the law it is etc etc
@@AC_830 the doku incident wasn't a booking if you watch it again, the players know the rules, trossard knew exactly what he was doing, he let his team down just a very stupid boy
@Andy-p2u8s he kicks it away from Rice are you blind. Typical bs to justify your cheating
@@AC_830 by the way I'm not a arsenal or man city fan I just understand the game, if I was you I would take a closer look
I’m absolutely loving being an Arsenal fan right now. It feels like we’re living rent-free in the minds of fans from other clubs, and honestly, it’s the best feeling in football. COYG
Are you? I don’t think so.
Paranoia is a nasty affliction.
Arteta speaks about refs, criticism. He doesn't, criticism.
He doesn't have to say anything on what he says to Trossard if not asked
English pls
Arsene Wenger throws a bottle of water, gets sent off. Pep almost breaks a chair , stays on the pitch.
He is the goat
Arsenal is the most hated team in England. People think it is still Wenger in the dugout.
Kicking a water bottle that could hit some1 is totally different ,ya spoon
His own chair 😂😂😂
@@J316-k9y Arsenal are one of the best teams in Europe and the haters are unquestionably ignorant and stupid.
Missing the point again
Webb came to tv and told us the same Michael Oliver didnt send Kovacic off last szn at emirates because he didn't want to 'destroy' the game so what changes when its other teams not named city
So because they got it wrong last year they should get it wrong every year until the end of time? Maybe they learned from their mistakes and corrected it for this season?
@Graziak5 clearly they didn't though
@@TheHonestSpeaker but they did though. If the argument is that kovacic should have been sent off last year and not doing so just to not “destroy” a big game was wrong, then surely sending off tossard in spite of it being a big game was correct and therefore they have learned from that mistake? Can’t have it both ways
@@Graziak5 So please point out where the card for Doku is then? Where's the card for Haaland throwing a ball in the back of a players head? Where's his yellow for running into a player on kick off?
That is all well and good but he didn't send off Haaland or give him any yellow cards
Did Silva say Arsenal haven't won the Prem?
Recent history, which you are very aware of,
@@Youafool500 did he say "recent history"? Genuine question, I never heard him
@@Youafool500are you going to respond to the 2nd question?
@@UphillGardener-ly5shWas he supposed to give a specific date? Arsenal haven't won in decades, we all understood what Silva meant.
@@UphillGardener-ly5sh No, he did not, but if you listen to him, that’s what he was on about especially when he gave Liverpool as an example. Ask him who won the premiership in a season he was not in it and I doubt he would know
Only two players booked for delaying a restart, out of all the PL games played this season. There is no letter of the law, there is just one rule for Arsenal doing this, and one rule for every other team in the Premier League. There have been lots and lots of instances with other players delaying the restart and not one other booking.
Just apply the rules the same way for every side.
Other teams smarter . Think about the stupid Gabriel handball against Bayern . Arsenal players lack professional standards when it comes to the very basics .
@@wengelder9256other teams smarter? Brightons Pedro did it against Arsenal in the same game before Rice got 2nd yellow but nothing for Pedro. Yesterday Doku did it in the same game just before Trossard got 2nd yellow. Nothing for Pedro. Open your eyes 😂
@@wornyodelrecordsPedro should have got a yellow, it’s a mistake get over it, still doesn’t mean Rice and Trossard shouldn’t have been given yellow cards. Also, Doku did not kick the ball away, they are not comparable.
@@bobsocks7575 I was replying to the previous comment that stated other teams didn’t get yellows for same thing because they are smarter. That’s obviously bs and you obviously agree with me so get over it and don’t waste my time.
@@bobsocks7575 Will Halaand be punished for throwing the ball at Gabi’s head? No chance. If it was other way around it’s red for the Arsenal player
Trossard kicked it at 45+7 and it was supposed to be only till +6. He could've easily construed it to be the half time whistle, which came after 1 kick.
Nope. He's a moron.
If the referee was so bloody consistent then why didn't Haarland receive a booking for chucking the ball at the back of Gabriel's head?
Pundits again talking about inconsistency. Thats BS. Real issue is Premier League is corrupt & referreeing decisions always favour Man City - the richest club in the history of the EPL. No pundit will say this but how many decisions keep going in Man City's favour like the penalty not given to Liverpool that probably denied them the title?
Rodri ran into Havertz at kick off and threw himself to the floor like a cheat. Seemed to set the tone for the game.
The things some City players and fans are complaining about are commonplace in modern football, things that the governing bodies have let go for decades.
Yes it's annoying. I don't know why it hasn't been addressed, there are lots of simple measures that can be taken to reduce gamesmanship
They expect him Trossard to react to less than 1 second. That's just ridiculous.
Was trossard unaware he was smacking into a player then? Do me a favour. Unfair or not with the ref or earlier with doku. Let's not pretend he didn't foul a player, which he could of had another yellow for then kicked the ball away. Why do it, why give the ref the choice. Arsenal are always feel sorry for me. Trossard shouldn't have given a decision to be made, end of.
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“which he could of had another yellow for”
Right, can’t foul MCI players without going in to the book.
This is shades of Webb and United.
@John-ms6bv you can foul them, was plenty of fouls around. But a shove in someone's back when they are going for a header, when you are on a yellow, isn't really advised, is it.
Stop crying victim constantly it's boring.
So your opinion is, trossard did nothing wrong? Just a shove in the back, kick the ball away after the whistle, and he's hard done by? Do me a favour. On a yellow, you shouldn't be fouling anyone no, kicking the ball away after aswel, not so smart.
@@Justaguy9861000%
Need to take Oliver out of these big games, he’s getting too many big reckons wrong…yesterday / Kacacic last season / Doku at Anfield.
One thing is common all decision in favour of MC and this has last year / this year will influence the title. Ars/Liv/MU should be asking for a change if appointed.
I agree with everything they said here. Arsenal players are going to have to learn their lesson about the new rules. City Players are rattled, Bernando Silva talking about Liverpool, because Liverpool never beat them when they needed to win the league.
and 7 minutes of stoppage time in a half that had the top 3 active ball in play halves this season.
I could have put money on the fact that Michael Oliver was going to either send one of our players off, award a penalty against us, or deny us a penalty….I remember the bizarre sending off of Martinelli when he sent off against Wolves for 2 offences in the same phase it cannot be a coincidence that he as sent off a total of 7 Arsenal Players in his career more than any other team..ALSO last season Arsenal were lambasted for over celebrating a win by the whole world yet did you see Man City Players Whooping it up when they equalised against a ten man Arsenal team it was as if they had won the
Premiership..THEY HAVE NO SHAME!!
Rules are rules. If the rules are going to be applied, then the rules need to be applied for EVERYONE. How much did Michael Oliver have riding on the game, or how much is he being paid under the table by Man City.
Given the concern the FA now put on head injuries to players , and inforcing the rules how come Haaland wasn't sent off for deliberately smacking an unsuspecting Gabriel in the back of the head . Seems the Rules are implemented very preferably
ARSENAL WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING
THEY HAVE A LOSER MENTALITY
THE RED CARTEL ARE OWNED BY AMERICAN 🇺🇸 PIRATES 🏴☠️
DISGUSTING 🤮
He's a total clown for doing it but come on pal. Gabriel isn't so weak that having a ball lobbed at his back/back of his head is going to injure him! If he'd gone down claiming an injury he'd be ridiculed as Rodri should be too from the incident at the KO - looked like almost nothing if anything in it!
Haaland should be given a knighthood for that. Bludgeoning Arsenal’s anti-football should be encouraged at every opportunity.
@@languageoffootball 😂
Doku did not “do the same”. The ref instructed the freekick to be taken back, Doku kick the ball to the Arsenal player.
The sending off was BS.
Doku didn’t do the same thing and unless you’re completely biased, you’d admit that
Jim this is the reason why English referees weren't selected at VAR at Euro, you people you always support nonsense to suit your situation. What did Howard Webb say last season after not sending Kovasic? What has happened this season?😢
Pep said Arsenal are not premier title challengers ?? he said Man United are, now me being a united supporter for 76 years you gotta laugh
Brilliant attempt at a pass from Trossard! If he didn't kick the ball at the height of its bounce then the oncoming City player intercepts and stops a run on goal from Martinelli. Watch it again.
Ok lads so if trossard is gone then what about doku kicking ball away, are you all just blind to it all now
No matter how nit picky some of the laws may be they should be applied at all times to all teams. This is the main issue which is in ref's hands and this has not been fairly applied. Arsenal has been scrutinized while most of their opponents have not. WHY?
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City really do come across as a bit sensitive here. Get a big decision which is probably right but ref should have blown at HT well before that. They couldn’t the game and complaining and moaning.
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Hang about both Arsenal goals could have been disallowed on another day and Raya would have been off by the 60th minute if the ref had the balls. City were more sinned against than sinning in this game overall.
33 games left. We have a lovely title race this year. Top 3 + hopefully at least one of Spurs, Utd, Chelsea, Villa can step up and make it a juicy 4 way! LFG!
If the refe decide to treat you different, there is no point in arguing about learning lessons. If it is not this, they find a way to send off as we saw in previous season. Better call for consistency of application. That all.
Can somebody tell Bernado Silver that Arsenal were winning League Championships when his poxy club was slumming it in league one.
Since when were City so nostalgic about Liverpool?
Who mentioned the Halland ball against the head while game is still on no yellow no red?
The absolute cheek from a club who are currently fighting 115 charges call another team cheaters 😂🤣 and everyone just laps it up
You mean because City have some charges no one else can be cheaters or called out as such?
We are a worldclass striker away from being an incredible force. Yea havertz has done well, he ain't getting us 20+ goals though
We've let osimhen go Turkey smh
It's a funny old game.....City player whining about one team didn't come to play. One of the first things Guardiola did years ago was instruct his players to intentionally foul on the half way line to stop any attacks likely to lead to goals. It was such an obvious tactic. But it worked. Not just tippy tappy, pass your way round. He added a different kind of aggression - go get the ball back when you lose it. And ruthless 'professionalism'. He is a winner. But the blatant halfway fouling thing worked, often the away team fell short in the match because of it, for example a last minute equaliser. Still came unstuck against signore Carlo Ancelloti though. COUS!!!!!
Love u RoRo & Chico. xx
Arsenal took 4 points of us last year and we won, Simon Jordan is such a snake
Rattled 😂😂😂
VAR is the problem, as we’ve heard on sky sports mic’d up that VAR are basically commentating in the onfield refs ear. Basically the refs trying to concentrate on the game but also on the VAR running commentary!
Arsenal packed the defence and made it into a training game. Good on them, unfortunately they couldn’t hold on for the whole of the game
What abt the ref calling walker out of his position
“If the Refs apply the Law”. Well they only seem to be applying the Law to Arsenal and nobody else. We saw incidents against Brighton, Spurs and Man City all going unpunished. Arsenal do it and the cards come out. All fans are asking for is consistency. The Referees in the EPL are appalling.
I love that Arsenal has gotten under man city’s skin. Love it!
Not enough chat about the consistency of ref decisions…
Wasn't smart tactics when Newcastle did it to Arsenal a few years ago.
I agree. This isn't the first time it's happened. Arsenal have made the same mistake twice. Whether referee is consistent or not is completely irrelevant here.
Had he sent him off for literally no reason then you could've argued. Arsenal need to keep their head cool. This has happened again. Kicking the ball away in frustration? Like who tf even are you? Ronaldo or Messi? Like Halland said, learn to be humble. Look at what you are doing wrong, don't focus on what mistakes others are making. You're only allowed to do that if you've done everything right and after that you got screwed.
Completely ignored the Doku one lmao. How can trossard stop his leg? The wistle and kick were like 1 second apart
We are not complaining of red ♦️ we are complaining constancy of RFS .
City are frustrated because they know the tide is turning. Arsenal are 100% better than Man City who celebrated a draw against 10 men 😂
Whatever you need to tell yourself to get you through the day
don’t argue with arsenal fans, just wait
@nicholasbaldwin4897 City were celebrating like they won the match. For city it was a point gained and for Arsenal it's two dropped
Win something first then talk.......
Given the fact they were assisted by their twelfth man the referee
my problem isn't Trossard getting red..... my problem is the double standard...... Ruben Dias and Haaland should've seen red too, OBVIOUSLY
How much does MON get bunsed by Costa for his constant exposure of their brand on TS!?
You guys dont get arteta sacarsim there, hes not literary saying he expected 10 v 11, he meant constitency
You never played football or any sport to say that TalksPort and so called journalist. Tell me how a player that plays the ball like he was playing after less than a 2 sec after the wishtle can stop playing like a robot ???? Tell me ????
We will not see players sent of for delaying the restart again and again as the rule is clear that it only applies to those who play in red and white AND are a North London based club.
Arsenal use the dark arts on the pitch, while city focus on 115 dark arts off the pitch. That was never a red card also, pull the other one guys.
It was a yellow card. And it was his 2nd. Therefore a sending off. He made 0 attempt at getting the ball. You can’t just barge into players from behind with no aim but to knock the player over😊
@@zaza_268he got sent off for kicking the ball away not the barge
@@Commonsense1875 either way it was stupid. Especially since it happened to rice. Learn from it
@@Commonsense1875No he didn’t. Stop lying, you’re not fooling anyone when everyone has seen it.
@@jonathanmarkham1998 that’s what it said on the screen in the stadium…
There is difference kicking ball away and pushing side and what happened to Rice that he touch ball purposely when Player about to take shoot
“If the referee applies the law” is the issue all football fans have. In inconsistent nature of referees drives us mad.
Also, was delaying a restart ever even an issue? I cannot think of a time that it bothered me before. Feels like the refs have backed themselves into a corner with the Rice one a few weeks ago and are trying to retrospectively make out that it’s a big focus this season.
People keep talking about arsenal players but nothing about doku who did even worse...
Then there's haaland throwing the ball against Gabriel's head and hard... crickets!!!
No consistency. Does the rule apply to all teams or just Arsenal? That's the issue
Damn right it diminished the game, it's hard enough goin there with the full 11 on the field. wtf with silva sayin we never won the premier league ,we used to go to main rd & turn these f***** over virtually every season , & it was nice to hear a couple of seasons ago when noel gallagher explained to his son when he said oh it's arsenal 3 points at the w/end ,that's what we used to say about city home or away oh that's 3 points until they were taken over & all this money came in, like he said we got them rattled & they didn't like us takin the piss on there manor ,yeah there's a case dependin on what side of the fence your on for the added time, the 2 yellows & the declan rice yellow ,football is within limits a physical contact sport, it's an emotional on the (spur 🤬😁)of the moment at that moment in time decisions ,BUT THE REFFEREES ARNT BEIN ALLOWED TO REF THE GAME & USE COMMON SENCE LIKE IN MY DAY ,& sometimes it's down to if you have played the game yourself you understand what it's like to be in that moment & things just happen, that my footballin friends used to be the beautiful game but it's bein ruined by bureaucracy, & red tape
Don't the refs also have to learn - you know - to apply the rules CONSISTENTLY & NOT WHEN IT SUITS THEM??
If Kyle had jus mark properly when doku told him to,trust mi all these comments would have been much different peeps
Arsenal took it to City the whole first half, until trossard got sent off. Any manager with 10 men is going to sit behind the ball with everything and try Defend their lead. It damn nearly paid off. City don’t like how good arsenal are, end of, they know it’s going to be a hard season ahead
Why is everyone suddenly using the word "needle" is this way? It's weird how all the companies start saying the same stuff at the same time.. how could that happen?
The over the top credit Arsenal is getting from being to 10 men is rather silly, there are many examples in the premier league and accross the top leagues were a 10 man team holds firm for a draw or wins it due a lead they have taken. Nobody is denying Arsenal defended very well for 45-50 min with 10 men but its getting rather obnoxious now that the make it sound like its a God like miracle.
Even Roy Keane despite all the pandering from all the pundits about Arsenals defense said "they still conceded 2 goals".
Yeah true , how many teams have done that at the Etihad ? I think that’s the difference here , the magnitude and the strength of the dominant Man City team - we can’t deny that the sheer quality of the Man City team is the reason why Arsenal’s performance is being spotlighted. 100% this scenario has happened many times in football , defending your lead or fighting for a draw with playing with 10 men - but - again - how many times at the Etihad
Why they try to make it like doku and bernardo id not did it, de talk 10 minutes about trossard but 10 sec. about those 2 .
It is Arteta who drilled these cheating ways into their head. The youngster who has not even kicked a ball even got a yellow for telling Raya to time waste from the side lines. Pathetic lol
😂 hold on are they saying city vs Liverpool werent proper games? The football on show was of the higest quality 😂 guess some can only appreciate football via tough tackles lmfao
Silva was correct. Arsenal are very ordinary.
So we now know if you kick the ball away its a yellow but if you throw the ball at an opponent's head thats ok. Makes sense 👏
When Arsenal were just emerging as title contenders and city won against them, the diving diva Silva was praising them, when Liverpool were challenging them, then he called them dirty. Now all he has is praise lol. If his team, 115, won yesterday, he’d have praised Arsenal lol. Wouldn’t brag about those titles either, no one actually recognises and will recognise less after 115. We can all do great things when we cheat.
These the same lot who would call out Jose for doing the dark arts. The double standards is laughable
These pundits are being disingenuous. Why is the bloody letter of the law being applied ONLY to Arsenal???? How does that compare to Howard Webb's comments last season with 2 leg braking tackles by Kovacic? Everyone is using the fancy word - Inconsistency. The right word to use is "bias" or worse "corruption"?
Wonder when other teams will start having lessons to learn for the same things..
Ffs doku did not kick the ball “away” he kicked it to where the ref said the free kick was! You see the ref clearly stating that! Trossard hoofed the ball away! The 2 incidents are not the same, trossard was stupid like rice and rightly was sent off - simple
Agree with Silva 200% Liverpool are always a joy to watch v City ,what Arsenal are doing is just wasting time ,injuring players 😂😂
Dirty,Dirty,Dirty match🔥🙌
Only Arsenal must learn...I get it. Talksport why not call out the incompetent refereeing...why not check the games Michael Oliver refereed last season and now this season and check his inconsistencies and the excuses they made?
But the point is, Doku clearly kicked the ball away too...just be consistent
I would watch the doku incident again if I was you
MC players all acting like spoilt kids, surrounding and pressurising ref on every decision. Walker/Haaland/Silva all senior players should look themselves in the mirror.
Did Oliver even consider Trossard may have not heard the whistle as he followed the ball in the same motion…benefit of doubt but City players all over ref straight away not allowing Oliver to even take a breath for a second…appalling behaviour!
It was a booking anyway. Player gets booked for contraventions. Shock! Let’s face it Arsenal got off with 2 goals that could or should have been disallowed and Raya should have been off by the 60th minute if the ref had any balls.
But if Doku got a card when he did that it would.change the mindset
Becoz it seems that they bait arsenal
Neutral fan / Leicester Fan..
The rules seem to be inly consistently applied against Arsenal? Genuinely think they are getting robbed atm
Trossard was dumb, fair enough. But please for the love of god explain why This liver didn’t send off Szoboszlai last week in the same exact scenario
Simon's hate is getting crazy. He's completely lying about what Arteta said.
Not with Tony Pulis as their manager
Arteta out... won't win anything this season too... always excuses 😂😂😂
Sammyworms I think you are very ignorant and biased . Arsenal will prove you know absolutely nothing .
doku kick the ball away but no card!! but Leo got.. in the same game...this is inconsistency..
All these media mob need to wind their neck in. Arsenal parking the bus and playing like a Pulis/Dyche team is now apparently on par with Man City 😂