Really good video there, sir, but I'd like to add a few things for those who are going for a more MACV SOG styled loadout. 1. For the airsoft guns if you want to go with a WW2 M1 carbine, the M2 would be more accurate and would be used throughout the war. M79 grenade launchers would usually be cut down, with some SOG team members even having custom holsters made. Colt 1911s weren't carried as often as the Browning Hi Power, so maybe go for that instead. I don't know how easy it would be, but if you want a light machine gun, grab an RPD and cut down the barrel, since M60s weren't usually carried by SOG due to how heavy they were. You CAN use 30 rounders for your CAR-15s, just keep it light on how many. While you can use a bog standard sling, a crevat (Triangular Bandage) was favored by SOG teams since it made no noise unlike the standard issue slings. 2. For Web Gear and uniforms. If you want to, you can pair Chicom type 56 AK chest rigs with your belt kit for extra ammo, just make some paracord pull tabs if you throw your 20 rounders in there, SKS chest rigs also supposedly fit 20 rounders, but I haven't tried this myself. If you want a more visually distinct kit, grab some NVA khakis. SOG teams usually had their indigenous pointman (Usually a Montagnard, Vietnamese, or Chinese Nungs for the recon teams, or Cambodians for the Hatchet forces) in full NVA kit. If you want to carry even more ammo on the cheap, grab a ton of canteen covers. For the standard jungle fatigues you can also spraypaint some black stripes on there for a sort of ersatz tiger stripe. In an interview Nick Brokhausen did for modern forces, he says to wrinkle and twist the fatigues to break up the pattern a bit more. I know that was a lot thrown out there, but I hope it helps some folks! Edit was just adding a couple things I thought of later
Gadge your my hero mate! Never seen a guy as Ally but so down to earth..a really inspection to us all! Your kit is Gucci and your knowledge is next to none. You my friend are a real airsoft legend..wish I had you on my team because I know I’d have nothing to fear when gadge is near!!!
Most airborne jumps in vietnam Were done by the french in first Indochina war due to scarcity of Helicopters especially at dienbienphu where most did Jump and die at night in a ever Shrinking perimeter!
For a tip with CAR-15 slings in Vietnam: they usually modified a standard M16 sling by removing the clips on it, opting to run paracord through the holes where the clips would have been. They'd then attach it to the stock and to the front sight block. They'd also remove the sling loop underneath the sight block. This allows the Car15 not to have as much metal clanging around. Although after doing this myself I will say it does get a little tricky at times to shoulder the rifle as they'd mainly use it to dangle it while moving around instead of using it during a firefight so use a sling that you find comfortable and looks like something from the period.
The Bar belt is quite funky. Interesting that the Portuguese made a version, have seen a Belgian variant in the past. The wrist watch you have on for some of the video is quite nice.
People may knock the SEAL look, but it was purposely done... It wasn't the "badass don't care if he's seen" that most think. Levi's 501 classic (period correct) was unable to be bitten by mosquitoes and spiders through the denim, the didn't need to be bloused because most guys wore women's hosiery underneath, as leaches couldn't latch on through the nylon
Great video, one of the reasons I like the tiger stripe look is you don't need to worry about and patches or badges. I would love to see you do a vietnam ANZAC digger loadout. A good excuse to bust out an SLR or just keep the m16. Maybe an SASR erdl loadout with a M203? I don't feel the anzac troops get the recognition they deserve.
Thanks for the suggestion. You could pretty much do a AATTV kit with this loadout :). I really like the digger aesthetic with the blend of British, US and domestic kit.
The water bottle pouches were used as you could get 5 20rd magazines in each and they would typically carry 15 to 20 magazines in total. Water bottles them selves they would carry 1 or 2.
Very good point. I know lots of SF used canteen carriers as ammo points but in the U.K. water bottle pouches are astronomically expensive so we went for the cheaper option of cloned BAR belt
The black trim on the beret flash was only for First Special Forces, never the Fifth. The First’s flash was originally yellow/gold. Right after Kennedy was killed they started coloring the edge by hand with a black marker as a sign of grief. It was later the standard. Very well done on the kit. The only bits missing are the Randall fighting knife and the Rolex.😉
Randall knife is a misnomer'; not everyone could afford a Randal; starting price was around $700 in 1966 also with great demand Randal was 2 years behind and the wait list was about 2.5 years to get any model of Randal to a soldier in the field....85% of all knives carried by USSF was the K-Bar "STYLE" knife!! also, most SF guys wore the Seiko in country
@@adamguthrie8522 awwwweee you're gonna give me a big head and then I'll be an even more insurable bastard!! lol...but thank you for the kind word sir!!! much appreciated
@@adamguthrie8522 Thanks soo much for the support sir!!! find me on face book, im not cool enough to have a TH-cam page, or tech savvy lol...FYI next book will cover Laos 1959-61 Operation Hotfoot/Whitestar
Good video again guys. Just a note an M14 or a M60 or even a Stoner would look right also. Makes me want to dig my old Tigers out and use them, we used them for OP Force training in the late 80's early 90's.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV somewhere here in one of my books there is a picture of some SEALS with M3 "Grease guns" too. Not picking just an extra what if type thing.
Thanks, one thing i forgot to say is that there are over a dozen (as many as 25+ actually i think) patterns of tiger stripe in examples from the war.. the only one i would suggest people DO NOT buy is the modern BDU cut stuff that companies like rothco do with very 'white' pale sections and dark brown patterns on a dark green base.. it just looks totally wrong.
Great video guys! I've got two questions: Which tape did you use for taping the cleaning rod to the replica (gaffers?) and where did you get it? The same thing goes for the BAR belt; where did you buy it? Thanks and waiting for more ;)
@@AnvilAirsoftTV perfect, yeah Gaffers tape was not available to the gen public in the 60s and 70s and was a specialty studios purchase item that no one outside the industry knew about :) cheers
With the real ones it was often a result of the colours fading. There are examples of some patterns fading a silvery shade where others even went gold.
Another great video. Any chance if you ever get the time of a German flectarn load out? You guys are rapidly becoming one of the best air soft channels out there 👍
As anvil says we both ran period correct BW loadouts between 2000 and 2008 but since sold it all day can’t justify buying it all again. If a retailer wanted to sponsor it I’d be happy to talk about it
Thanks guys! My old ones came from a store called Mean and Green, they were super cheap but not too bad - been looking around for a new pair for a while but I had no idea what would be either decent as surplus or as repro!
If you're a size 12 look on silvermans website, Korean made jungle boots going cheap, less than a tenner a pair.i bought a pair and they're pretty decent
Where did you get the sling on the xm177e1 I am going to make a Mac v sog load out and have been looking everywhere for the sling can you please send me the link or name of the sling and where to get one
I'm afraid i honestly can't remember where its from the sling on my M16 is from m1 militaria so it might well be from the same place , got a lot of items from those guys
I did once have the kit for French Indochina in the 50s using a mis of British , American wwii items. I’m afraid I sold all my wwii USA kit so can no longer do this kit
@@Gadgeization I have all the authentic French late 80's early 90's kit both with CCE camo and the olive one, I use them for airsoft. I must confess my great obsession for French Cold War era kit 😵
@@GavTatu because *everyone* i've ever heard mention it in over 25 years of collecting militaria has in the past said 'chee com' to me, its just how i've always heard it, its only recently ive heard the other pronunciation so i reckon its probably way too ingrained to change how i say it now. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it :)
Really good video there, sir, but I'd like to add a few things for those who are going for a more MACV SOG styled loadout.
1. For the airsoft guns if you want to go with a WW2 M1 carbine, the M2 would be more accurate and would be used throughout the war. M79 grenade launchers would usually be cut down, with some SOG team members even having custom holsters made. Colt 1911s weren't carried as often as the Browning Hi Power, so maybe go for that instead. I don't know how easy it would be, but if you want a light machine gun, grab an RPD and cut down the barrel, since M60s weren't usually carried by SOG due to how heavy they were. You CAN use 30 rounders for your CAR-15s, just keep it light on how many. While you can use a bog standard sling, a crevat (Triangular Bandage) was favored by SOG teams since it made no noise unlike the standard issue slings.
2. For Web Gear and uniforms. If you want to, you can pair Chicom type 56 AK chest rigs with your belt kit for extra ammo, just make some paracord pull tabs if you throw your 20 rounders in there, SKS chest rigs also supposedly fit 20 rounders, but I haven't tried this myself. If you want a more visually distinct kit, grab some NVA khakis. SOG teams usually had their indigenous pointman (Usually a Montagnard, Vietnamese, or Chinese Nungs for the recon teams, or Cambodians for the Hatchet forces) in full NVA kit. If you want to carry even more ammo on the cheap, grab a ton of canteen covers. For the standard jungle fatigues you can also spraypaint some black stripes on there for a sort of ersatz tiger stripe. In an interview Nick Brokhausen did for modern forces, he says to wrinkle and twist the fatigues to break up the pattern a bit more.
I know that was a lot thrown out there, but I hope it helps some folks!
Edit was just adding a couple things I thought of later
Thanks for the suggestions.
Gadge your my hero mate! Never seen a guy as Ally but so down to earth..a really inspection to us all! Your kit is Gucci and your knowledge is next to none. You my friend are a real airsoft legend..wish I had you on my team because I know I’d have nothing to fear when gadge is near!!!
Kind of you to say so but you wouldnt want me on your team im rubbish at playing airsoft :)
Yeh agree, great presenter
"Fighting soldiers from the sky, fearless men who jump and die"
Men who mean the green berets
Most airborne jumps in vietnam
Were done by the french in first
Indochina war due to scarcity of
Helicopters especially at dienbienphu where most did
Jump and die at night in a ever
Shrinking perimeter!
For a tip with CAR-15 slings in Vietnam: they usually modified a standard M16 sling by removing the clips on it, opting to run paracord through the holes where the clips would have been. They'd then attach it to the stock and to the front sight block. They'd also remove the sling loop underneath the sight block. This allows the Car15 not to have as much metal clanging around. Although after doing this myself I will say it does get a little tricky at times to shoulder the rifle as they'd mainly use it to dangle it while moving around instead of using it during a firefight so use a sling that you find comfortable and looks like something from the period.
I do something similar with my retro carbines.
The Bar belt is quite funky. Interesting that the Portuguese made a version, have seen a Belgian variant in the past. The wrist watch you have on for some of the video is quite nice.
We went for a BAR belt as it’s part of my ‘deer Hunter‘loadout. The watch is a replica of the issue watch if the time
@@Gadgeization Gotcha, blends in with the kit. Looking forward to seeing what you touch on in the next loadout video.
"you look a bit like your in the stonre roses" - best line in vid
:)
People may knock the SEAL look, but it was purposely done... It wasn't the "badass don't care if he's seen" that most think.
Levi's 501 classic (period correct) was unable to be bitten by mosquitoes and spiders through the denim, the didn't need to be bloused because most guys wore women's hosiery underneath, as leaches couldn't latch on through the nylon
just DONT roll up the pant cuff...total FARB lol
These vids r actually rlly helpful coz it’s sick to make airsoft more realistic by dressing up
That’s our plan! :)
It’s all about making a decent loadout that does not break the bank!
Great video, one of the reasons I like the tiger stripe look is you don't need to worry about and patches or badges.
I would love to see you do a vietnam ANZAC digger loadout. A good excuse to bust out an SLR or just keep the m16. Maybe an SASR erdl loadout with a M203? I don't feel the anzac troops get the recognition they deserve.
Thanks for the suggestion. You could pretty much do a AATTV kit with this loadout :). I really like the digger aesthetic with the blend of British, US and domestic kit.
The water bottle pouches were used as you could get 5 20rd magazines in each and they would typically carry 15 to 20 magazines in total. Water bottles them selves they would carry 1 or 2.
Very good point. I know lots of SF used canteen carriers as ammo points but in the U.K. water bottle pouches are astronomically expensive so we went for the cheaper option of cloned BAR belt
There was a great video about that on tactical riflemans channel
The black trim on the beret flash was only for First Special Forces, never the Fifth. The First’s flash was originally yellow/gold. Right after Kennedy was killed they started coloring the edge by hand with a black marker as a sign of grief. It was later the standard.
Very well done on the kit. The only bits missing are the Randall fighting knife and the Rolex.😉
Randall knife is a misnomer'; not everyone could afford a Randal; starting price was around $700 in 1966 also with great demand Randal was 2 years behind and the wait list was about 2.5 years to get any model of Randal to a soldier in the field....85% of all knives carried by USSF was the K-Bar "STYLE" knife!! also, most SF guys wore the Seiko in country
@@paulmiraldi7192 I was going more for the stereotype than the reality, but I agree 100%. I am a big fan of your work Mr. Miraldi.
@@adamguthrie8522 awwwweee you're gonna give me a big head and then I'll be an even more insurable bastard!! lol...but thank you for the kind word sir!!! much appreciated
@@adamguthrie8522 Thanks soo much for the support sir!!! find me on face book, im not cool enough to have a TH-cam page, or tech savvy lol...FYI next book will cover Laos 1959-61 Operation Hotfoot/Whitestar
Dusting off my Captain Willard gear for this weekend. First mission in 18 months...and when it's over I'll want another
@@douganderson7002 🤣🤣🤣, a game,but my local site does a great line in giving individuals or small groups secret missions within games
@@douganderson7002 he was referencing the movie, take it easy.
00:02 'Never get out of the boat. Absolutely God damn right. Unless you were going all the way'
Fuckin' Tiger!!
Bonus points for the husker du shirt.
Probably my favourite band ever!
Candy Apple Grey!!!!!!!
Interesting and informative. I've watched this twice. That boonie is really nice.
Good video again guys. Just a note an M14 or a M60 or even a Stoner would look right also. Makes me want to dig my old Tigers out and use them, we used them for OP Force training in the late 80's early 90's.
Good point.
came here for this comment :-) , apparently the current Cyma M-16's and XM-177's are excellent and very budget friendly!
You are totally correct. There are many more perfect choices of alternative weapons but we wanted to cover the easy to own options
@@AnvilAirsoftTV somewhere here in one of my books there is a picture of some SEALS with M3 "Grease guns" too. Not picking just an extra what if type thing.
For sure. Loads of crazy options like madsens and French smg s. I think until the carbine program was established it was a case of ‘make do’
Great video man, thanks to this video I was able to find a nos Portuguese bar belt on eBay. For a good deal
Glad I could help!
Love the arashikage i have one too
You made a great job on your video keep up the great work
Thank you so much!
Great video Gadge, I have lots of tiger camo different patterns and eras - I have a set of ARVN Advisors which do the job
Thanks, one thing i forgot to say is that there are over a dozen (as many as 25+ actually i think) patterns of tiger stripe in examples from the war.. the only one i would suggest people DO NOT buy is the modern BDU cut stuff that companies like rothco do with very 'white' pale sections and dark brown patterns on a dark green base.. it just looks totally wrong.
If you’re going to do a Navy seal load out for Vietnam it’s the Levi’s 501s
Thanks. Bit expensive these days to trash in Airsoft but it gives people the look to aim for.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV Cool it’s called men in green faces correction
well the correct ones are the Redline Levis..super expensive
Quad mag pouches, nice!
Triples on each side. You can get 18+ 20 round mags in them.
A mac v sog indepth kit would be cool. Keep it up guys 👌
It we can borrow the kit we’ll do it. There’s a good video on the Tactical Rifleman channel.
hey Katman if ya need help w sog hit me up, here or on facebook...40 years of collecting/researching :)
Very well done and explained!
Thank you. We’re really happy with it.
Very cool enjoyed the video
Gadge very great Info my friend best Regards Helge
Thank you buddy. We try to please
Love tiger stripe
It’s getting very popular at the moment
You can also read the book man angry faces that but I seals Vietnam that’s gives you the stuff they used
Great video guys! I've got two questions:
Which tape did you use for taping the cleaning rod to the replica (gaffers?) and where did you get it?
The same thing goes for the BAR belt; where did you buy it?
Thanks and waiting for more
;)
Tape is olive 3M duct tape and was bought from Lidl supermarket. The Bar Belt came from eBay.
Thanks
@@AnvilAirsoftTV perfect, yeah Gaffers tape was not available to the gen public in the 60s and 70s and was a specialty studios purchase item that no one outside the industry knew about :) cheers
Interestingly though maybe it’s my tv ,but the black stripes looked almost blue on couple of occasions ?
They have a blue/purple hue to them in the flesh, similar to the real stuff.
With the real ones it was often a result of the colours fading. There are examples of some patterns fading a silvery shade where others even went gold.
One of the great things about SOF jwd is the fact they got the dye colours right
Another great video.
Any chance if you ever get the time of a German flectarn load out?
You guys are rapidly becoming one of the best air soft channels out there 👍
I’m not sure if either of us has the kit for that I’m afraid. I had quite a good one 15 years ago :(
As anvil says we both ran period correct BW loadouts between 2000 and 2008 but since sold it all day can’t justify buying it all again. If a retailer wanted to sponsor it I’d be happy to talk about it
Awesome video. Any french foreign legion kits?
Never really looked at those. Will investigate but it’s unlikely due to costs.
How popular are Vietnam style games in the uk?
Getting more and more popular now. There’s several major game operators doing them.
Where did you get your budget Jungle Boots from Gadge? I used to have a cheap pair that I loved but wore completely out
Soldier of fortune do some miltec ones. Not as flexible as the originals and the leather part comes further up the ankle.
That pair were from a militaria fair years ago. They were to replace some mid 80s us ones I wore out
Thanks guys! My old ones came from a store called Mean and Green, they were super cheap but not too bad - been looking around for a new pair for a while but I had no idea what would be either decent as surplus or as repro!
If you're a size 12 look on silvermans website, Korean made jungle boots going cheap, less than a tenner a pair.i bought a pair and they're pretty decent
Top notch presentation.
Thanks
Thank you so much
Yes I like I use a SKS chest rig only£20 on Amazon
They take 20 round magazines nicely.
I also have a commonwealth chest rig you could use in a pinch for Australian Rhodesian chest rig
@@combatfishairsoft3725 I’ve got a clone Faraday and Son’s chest rig :)
@@AnvilAirsoftTV am also going to do a mp40 loadout anda Thompson one as well
@@AnvilAirsoftTV but from the pictures I've seen I can't work out what pouches they use for the mp40 mags
Where did you get the sling on the xm177e1 I am going to make a Mac v sog load out and have been looking everywhere for the sling can you please send me the link or name of the sling and where to get one
I'm afraid i honestly can't remember where its from the sling on my M16 is from m1 militaria so it might well be from the same place , got a lot of items from those guys
@@gadgeharvey5544 ok thank you
Can you do a French impression of 80's-90's ?? Or maybe French Indochina War of early 50's ??
I did once have the kit for French Indochina in the 50s using a mis of British , American wwii items. I’m afraid I sold all my wwii USA kit so can no longer do this kit
@@Gadgeization I have all the authentic French late 80's early 90's kit both with CCE camo and the olive one, I use them for airsoft. I must confess my great obsession for French Cold War era kit 😵
Why don’t you try doing your own impression video?
@@AnvilAirsoftTV You just gave me a wonderful idea !!
I used a bunch of rothco stuff
No Rothco over here
Pop nice 😉
hit me up mate..Id be happy to share info and photos for upcoming videos on US soldiers, Special Forces, MIKE Forces and SOG & more!!! cheers!!
Thanks Paul. That’s very kind of you!
@@AnvilAirsoftTV anytime sir!!!
I got Vietnam videos U.S and Vietcong I shoot real guns, you got a cool loadout
Thanks
Here’s another video that could be used as a reference
th-cam.com/video/mygofLEW3iU/w-d-xo.html
Brent’s guides are great.
why do you say chee-com, and not chi-com, as in ch'eye ?
Just the way a lot of us say it in the U.K. same as a lot of people say car been rather than carbine with an I sold :)
@@Gadgeization lol, yeah, but its chi as in China. I'd never heard it said that way before
Like I say I’d never heard it pronounced ch I for a very long time so probably a regional thing. Where about s are you from?
@@Gadgeization i'm in jersey. but like i say, the chi stands for chinese yeah... so i was confused as to why it would be anything else ?
@@GavTatu because *everyone* i've ever heard mention it in over 25 years of collecting militaria has in the past said 'chee com' to me, its just how i've always heard it, its only recently ive heard the other pronunciation so i reckon its probably way too ingrained to change how i say it now. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it :)
hi there
You so fashionable!