Niche Site Review: Why Shane's niche site flopped
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I watch your old vids for infotainment every now and again which is why I'm here now. Sometimes knowing what not to do is just as valuable as knowing what you should be doing.
Jim, these site reviews are absolutely 100000% gold! Please when you have time continue making these, learning by example is soo so so valuable!
Your suggestion regarding building a site around a hobby/topic/niche then integrating product reviews (affiliate marketing for instance) is spot on. You need a balance between “informational” type content and “money”/”review”/”buying” type content. But when you pick the hobby/overall topic, you need to check that there is solid commercial potential, i.e, there are products to promote (Amazon is a good place to start checking this) and a decent (AdSense) CPC (an indicator of commercial potential) for keywords covering the particular niche. So it's all a matter of balance. If you directly go for product reviews then you might as well be an eCommerce operation trying to compete directly with GIANTS such as Amazon, Best Buy etc. etc., and needless to say that's a tough ask for (dare I say) small to medium enterprises such as you and me..
Some visitors will be further down the “buying cycle” and they will probably directly land on a particular product review page. This type of page will probably be super focused, i.e, the page will be focused on a topic or keyword that is long-tail. In the event that they browse around your site they will see that you cover the particular niche/topic in depth and this serves to build trust. People buy from those they like and trust. They will eventually start viewing your website as a type of authority - a go-to - in the given space.
On the other hand, someone searching for informational type content, i.e., a guide or DIY tutorial etc. will also see that you cover the niche/topic in detail and as a bonus you have products available from your tutorials/guides that makes their life easier as all the products are in one place and much of the heavy lifting regarding research has already been done for them. All this again leads to higher trust scores. Higher trust and likeability typically then results in higher conversion rates, that is, more sales!
The key is to BUILD TRUST AND LIKEABILITY AT ALL COST by giving your users exactly what they are looking for which is solid, useful, unique information that helps them solve their problems or fulfills their desires. Interestingly this will lead to higher returns for you in the medium to long term. It is a type of “enlightened self-interest.” Focus on your audience's needs first and you won’t go wrong!
Also, I know we have a tendency to want to see money as fast as possible but you need to allow at least 3 months, even 6 months maybe more to get out of the ‘Google Sandbox’ and start seeing decent (organic) traffic stream to your site. Folks start calculating their earnings (all types of metrics, hourly rate etc.) far too early in my humble opinion in which case you are not really an entrepreneur then because you are operating from an employee type mindset in which typically you work a certain amount of hours and immediately get paid for those hours worked, i.e., trading time for money. By definition, entrepreneurialism requires that you put in an initial investment first, a time in which you may see no to minimal returns so that in the medium and definitely long term you will see returns that should very well far exceed your (monetary) expectations.
Just my two cents.. Glad I found your channel. Awesome content. Subbed :]
Best wishes to everybody and here’s to another prosperous year in 2019! Onwards and upwards!
Resourceful citizen ?!;:&
you are awessom man...
Thanks for posting this! I have to admit, I almost passed out near the end. I thought my Amazon Associates links made the site look more polished and less spammy. For me, this would have been on "the good to know on day 1" list.
Thank you Jim, I think you have summarised what MOST people in the affiliate marketing made their mistake. They were being overwhelmed by the commission, and show no "Love".
You are the best blogger out there and thank you so much for your real advice! I watch every video you make! notification squad I am here :)
Jim & Ricky: I wish to complement you both on coming off so natural and caring on-camera, evidently reflecting your mutual genuine interest in seeing students succeed. That is REFRESHING! And said as one who’s been around Internet Marketing circles since before the days of Overture (prior to the monstrosity of Google); so I’ve likely developed a keen knack for detecting related “guru” B.S., which isn’t remotely present when watching your vids. Kudos, definitely... Subscribed!
The videos you make where you review sites are great! Keep these going!
A BIG Thank you!! This makes sense to me. Will be following your advice :) loving this channel!
Thanks Jim, the piece about building relationships with readers is key. Keep up the great work.
Jim, I would like to thank you for making this kind of video. It would literally save me 2-3 years that I would have wasted if not for this video. Thank you!!
Fantastic video, would love to see more of these thank you guys for your value. I am just starting and currently building my own niche site and happy to say have not made ant of the mistakes mentioned however more of these videos would be amazing thanks
Your channel is the best thing I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you for putting out amazing content.
Thanks for this informative video. I found it was really helpful to learn from a 'failure point of view' and what not to do. Special thanks to Shane for sharing this. There are so many pointers here that it will be so helpful for him to tweak his website and turn his fortunes around. Best wishes.
dude you've reinspired me to get back into my niche site that I thought was a bust. I see loads of new potential there now. thanks!
How has it been from then till now
I love your website reviews. A lot of people can now learn these lessons without making the same mistakes first
Your point about photos is pretty eye opening and makes a lot of sense
I really liked the real life example that you used for this video. It was helpful to see you point out all the problems. Thanks!
Thank you Jim, everything you have said makes total sense! I'll be back! (Ps... My father is looking to sign up to income school and I will follow shortly!).
and thank you Ricky too!
Shane did you implement any of Jim's suggestions. Have you seen any improvement.
Keith
keith howlette Hi Keith, I also believe that the expired domain I picked up was a spammy domain. So I plan to move the content to a new domain, then rewrite to make it less spammy, I have another sports based website I plan to combine as it has more informational type articles that will hopefully boost the website.
I have a fishing website that perfectly describes what Jim had mentioned, more informational content, your own photos, a more personalized feel... But I managed to delete the site last year, so I have recovered the content and now rebuilding it based on Jim's advice.
Hello Shane! LOL You are at least ahead of me! :D I have been doing this for about 8 years, and started to get results back in May. www.screencast.com/t/b03BV5CAGtFr But I got a good juice flowing now, and it keeps increasing!
@@waterdamagerestoration4490 Hi, Sorry I didn't see this reply. I'd be interested in talking to you about what you did to turn things around!
Always happy to see your guys videos, thanks!
You guys rock! Thanks for all the free content.
Great video Jim...you are helping me so much. Thanks man
This was sobering and helpful! Thanks for the practical advice!
Great information. I would not even have thought there was a program out there to do a word count. This is very authentic advice from someone you know knows what they are talking about. Do you write around keywords or does the length of you articles just organically end up having the keywords important to the topic in it?
Very helpful analysis, Jim. Thank you!
Excellent observations. I would never have thought to critique any of things. This will really help me pick a new niche.
Hi Jim, I just have a tip for you. At 5:18, instead of dragging your mouse all the way to delete the content you can just click on the text box and press Ctrl/Command + A to select all the content and delete it. It is much faster that way.
Another great video. Thank you! Learning so much
One of the best site reviews I've ever seen. These guys are one of the few MMO guys that don't look like greasy charlatans!
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You guys have the business online business model; Just be helpful. Thank you for sharing all of this information with us!
Yeah, within just a few hours of joining Project 24, I felt anger, sadness, and relief all at once. After over 2 years of terrible results, I finally got the instructions. Seeing how much time I've wasted creating content that doesn't work really bothered me, but now that I'm equipped with this stuff I am renewed and more determined than before.
Right on!
How's it working now? 9 months later?
Hello I hope you are having a great life. Would you mind sharing what you did that didn't work?
Could you please do a video on basic niche site structure and how to categories topics and such?
Good stuff, Jim! You picked Shane's site apart, but he has got to be happy with the constructive criticism. I hope he has great results after the site changes!
This is a great video!!
I’m only at the beginning of bringing up my online game...
Thanks for the advice! When talking about making a blog longer, does the same apply for a recipe website? I noticed that the plug in for the recipes I make does not count as words counted.
Thank you so much. This is so helpful.
I've seen at least 2 sites ranking high getting 100k+ traffic per month (according to ahrefs) with 92best products posts, 16 how to posts, 15 vs products posts, 5 top 15 keyword products (example 15 fishing reels you should check) posts.
I guess there's no set rule
Great video, examples always help me understand more on how to make good websites
Thanks for such a informative video! Is their a such thing as too much information in 1 article?
This channel is awesome.. Thank you
Wow you gave so many recipes for making a great website. Yes! Love your readers!
Hi, its funny because i think product review pages are better, because people usually search for specific things. "The best..." "Top 10..." vs the long topic blog, which seem to be long and unspecific. Its like if you want to get with a girl/guy, the best approach is upfront for more success vs the guy who likes the girl and comes up with a story each time, but fails to ask her out within the opportune time or beats around the bush. It may seem spammy because we're in the affiliate business, but most people, like Facebook users, don't know that review sites are affiliates (EZvids, 10Beasts, etc, etc). We assume they know we're an affiliate site when in actuality, the majority really doesn't know and could care less.
BTW--i really like and enjoy your videos.
You explain things very good...thanks dude
Awesome vid,especially when you helped us to see what the problem is..
Do you guys use the Keyword Golden Ratio? Or do you just write on topics anyway?
One of the top 40 photographers in the world? I let out an audible 'WOW!' Good for you... Love your stuff guys and will be going with your WP theme. Best, *A.
Just a little tip; Use the Google Chrome extension called Word Count Plus
Thanks for all the advice. It is really great :-)
Great video for starters! What do you think about a niche affiliate site that gives the visitor the ability to comment on your post or article?
Really good video. Thanks man.
Awesome review! Thanks!
Firstly thanks for creating videos like this. It is very helpful for beginners like me. I have question to ask
What if i take a big topic like fitness as niche for my website ?. Which has workout ,nutrition etc as categories? What will be strategy to rank high that site . ?
This review was a great help, I would love to see more of these!
do you find that having actual pictures effects the niche site's engagement?
Hey Jim I feel so shameful now that you mention this, although I get commission. But when I look at it from a reader's perspective I can see why it doesn't rank as well, there was no authenticity to my content and I forgot the passion that I originally bought to this great website. Now that I know what to touch upon, I will deliver more valuable helpful content and make the affiliates like sprinkling salt. Thanks so much!!!
Crap dude, I own a site called Top Testosterone Booster (have had the domain for a few years and just now decided to pursue it, thanks to your channel). I’m promoting one product but all of my blog posts are tips to boost test naturally (nothing about the actual product)
Do you think this is ok?? I’m 17 posts deep and all are over 1200 words. Was planning to do 30 articles as you recommend
Any Updates? Hows the site doing so far?
1. Product focused niche.
2. Articles short.
3. Bad balance of info and products.
4. Authenticity photos real life.
5. Ad thing in amazon and place.
It would be hard to get a commission without a link - another Great video - Thanks 👍
Hello guys,i have a question,english is not my fist language and i need to know if it has affect on writing blogs?
Great little case study!
This is the best video I’ve watched from income school
Great content in that video! You're authentic and friendly
Hi
Firstly Thanks because all of your videos are really helpful and informative especially for the beginners. And I have a question that is -
I am creating a niche site which is about the baby carrier, and the domain name is - "babycarrierdotcom" so my question is that if I publish articles about pregnancy & parenting along with baby carrier review articles in my site. Is that will be a problem? or is that will be an issue? Hope that you will answer the question.
I learned from these mistakes. Case Studies are very helpful for us building our own niche site. Can you give more case study reviews from real niche sites? By the way, where is Ricky?
Ricky's wife had a baby last week and both of them have been sick this week so I'm holding down the fort while he's out.
Thanks for the video guys
What is your opinion of adding Amazon stores to niche sites?
Jim you should do a follow-up video for this with the guy who owns the website.
Great review. Very helpful. Thank you. What do you think about Automated niche blogs? I hope you'll do an awesome video like this one covering Automated Niche Blogs 2018 :)
Hello Sir, I wanted to know if we can write about different things in the same website. Will it work?
Please can you answer this question:-
- Was that the niche shane selected wasn't good or the topics he selected to blog about weren't good?
I keep thinking to myself "Yeah, but I'm not really into anything and I don't know what to make a site about." I've been living in Vietnam for two years. I've had a Vietnamese girlfriend and we were talking about getting married. I've learned some Vietnamese, celebrated the major holidays learned about the religion, laws, history, and culture. I know a ton of people from the expat community here but i have even more Vietnamese friends. Also, there is a steady (almost concerning) rise in the number of Westerners coming here to start a new life that don't know where to begin and they're given wrong or low-quality information.
If only I could think of a good niche idea though....
Hi Travis, how are you so far? :)
Please record screen while the showing the website
I just checked your dirtbikeplanet website worth on siteprice and its 8k? monthly revenue $217?
How many artivles do we need of each 4k words?
I actually thing that the "rowing machine" niche is quite big. Look at the 38million sites you hit on google. Most sites are huge shops like amazon and many others. It is probably really hard to rank at. It needs to be an authority site written by somebody who is willing to share everything about rowing technique, training for his next rowing tournament etc. More like a lifestyle blog in combination with rowing.
Hello thank you for a very useful series of videos. I am going through all of them one by one . Can you please consider answering these questions either in comments or in a separate video? I am disabled with chronic pain and with speech recognition as my only means to connect with the outside world, I am putting up free speech recognition tutorial on TH-cam along with textual instructions on my blog with a link to the video tutorial . What kind of niche can I write on? The two I have are assistive Technology for the disabled and dealing with chronic pain medically. I can perhaps also write on how to deal with being increasingly impoverished ( frugal living finances) but I can't sell anything on that . I was hoping that my website which is now 1 year old will help me pay some bills but so far I have not made even a single affiliate Commission on pages with 1000 views. I was assuming that at least 1% of visitors will buy. The second question is when someone is providing TH-cam video tutorials then should the length of the blog be stil 40 00 words . I regarded TH-cam video tutorials wasr Central piece of information while the blog was to provide extra information like anything that I would have left in the video tutorial plus it also serve as another channel for SEO. Thank you for any input.
Thanks for the information ;)
I agree..I wouldn't even read anything on his page..now he knows, and you where not mean as it's worse to let him think there isn't a problem
How is Shane doing these days? Can we get an update for 2020
Great information.
Could I apply your niche site model to an authority site?
best way to write article
what ,which question related article
best, top related article
pro,cons, features
review
Great Video. You state that your top 50 articles are all over 4,000 words long. But your articles on dirtbikeplanet.com are roughly 1,200 words (torque wrench for example) Is this ok for a product article then?
Also, when I click on your torque wrench link to amazon, the product is showing as not available! Which you may or not know about?
It's going to make sense for many articles to be in the 1,500 to 2,000 range. Some may fall below that. But the articles that do the best are the longer, more detailed ones.
michael beluga
I also went to DBP site, enjoyed seeing a great example of a niche site. There are a couple of typos in the torque wrench blog... may want to proofread it again. Good stuff though. 👍
Do y'all have experience working with sports news websites?
Hi, i got question. I am from Poland i thinking about making something like this in my country. how do you thinking making it in polish is worth try, you know market is less but not that used when i saw my research. I can wright in both languages, i think i found interesting topic. Do you think there will be same income ideas then as English language? In Poland Amazon is not that popular but there are different sites, i was searching for become a partner or something i couldn't find it, do you think when i will send e mail to those guys and talk with them there is a chance i will make a deal?
About writing, do you think i can wright more opened to ppl, not official? Example " After my reaserch about self defence knifes i found out that using regular knifes are very hard to use and need a lot of training. I gone with my research to different level and i found so cool knifes that they are easier and safer to use" etc.. etc..
That who where making this sites need more passion you are right he need to see his client and build relationship with those guys.
Szymon Ćwięczek If you can write and understand English (which apparently you can), you should write in English. The market is just WAY bigger.
You think so? I know that is way bigger, you know even me, when is something i want to know i ask google in English but i know that a lot people in my country has no idea about english and there is topics that answers is hard to find, really hard to find. For example when i try in polish how to self defense or what can i use to defend myself there is only sites that selling things. That is examples. I saw a lot of stuff.
How do you think there is something like locations in google search, for example i am writhing in poland but in english my website has .com and guy from India wright something close to my subject, he can find it? I know strange question but i am curious about it.
The competition in Polish will be less. But the market will be smaller. It's a trade-off. Can you make money on a niche site in Polish? Absolutely. Especially with low competition. You just have a lot more potential if you can break into a niche in the English market because of its size. I'd be interested to see how your site does if you go for something in Polish. It would be a really interesting case study for sure.
Hi Jim, so you say if I don't have a hobby or something like that I am screwed?
lol no. HAHAHA
The longer the article is, the more keywords it has. The more keywords it has, the more potential traffic it will bring.
This is not 2005. The reason for the long article is engagement, not kw spamming. Google is focused on value and user experience. If people are abandoning your website in 10-30 seconds they are not going to waste their users time ranking krap. The days of users alerting google of krap are over, it is all algorithm now. It cannot be gamed (that is a good thing).
@@johndough23 I agree, it is about making the content really valuable FIRST, and then before hitting publish, just check to see if the main and LSI keywords would make the content flows better - then sprinkle them in. Keyword is just the "key" to unlock the "content room" - the room is what the user seeks, not the key itself.
As a copywriter - never artificially boost your article length or forcefully add keywords. It'll look spammy. Instead, just make it as long/short as it needs to be to get the message across.
In other words, if you want to write a long article, make it a deep detailed piece that really covers all aspects of the topic. You know? Instead of unnecessarily droning on about surface level stuff
Hi guys! Just out of curiosity, and based on your personal experience - what number of visits per month would be an average to earn your site $1000 in revenue?
I understand this is a very broad question with a ton of variables but let's just say someone produces content similar to the quality of your niche sites. Let's say the average price of products promoted on the site are around $100 - $150 and let's say the commission is 8%.
You guys probably picked up a few patterns by now so myself and probably others too, would love to know a ballpark figure for the number of visitors per month to earn a potential revenue of $1000.
As always, thank you!
Around 30,000 pageviews per month. This video actually breaks that down by traffic and site age.
th-cam.com/video/2WOATd-vV1Q/w-d-xo.html
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Can you do a follow up on how he is doing now.
I think another reason it failed is because I don't believe any one person or company could legitimately test out over 30 different rowing machines, at least thoroughly enough, to take their reviews seriously.
Whats your thought on getting someone on Fiverr to write and article 2000 words plus. Im not very good on writing myself but i understand the need for large relevant content.
You could try Fiverr. You just need to really scrutinize their content. The problem is you may end up paying upfront for an article that you get back and it turns out to be trash. That's why I'd rather hire a writer as a contractor, teach them how I want my articles written, and then pay them per word for their articles.
Thanks for the advice, i'v tried to write one my self. Its on the landing page of one of my Niche website. Im going to join your school and pay the $199 I was just trying to sell some affiliate product to pay the fee.
Could you check out the site and give me your thoughts. I know thats a bit cheeky as Iv not paid the fee for this advice. But like you website says, "$199 isn't much money to you and your glad to help"
I have shared your youtube page with all my friends and on facebook
11:48 I think I get it. In a nutshell, it pays to actually experience the niche of your website, even if you don't need to be an "expert" at all.
The problem I have is that in previous videos you’ve said you can do a Google search analytics et cetera and find a subject that everybody is looking for that is a good niche, in this video you more or less say that you have to be carrying out and be part of the niche yourself.
So that means you have to be actually doing what you are writing about? I find this very confusing
Ade2Bee the suggestion is to learn all you can about your niche. In many cases it’s a good idea to get into the niche if you can. If you literally know nothing about it and don’t have interest in getting into it you’ll have a harder time coming up with helpful advice to share.
10:00 key to everything. Be authentic. People buy from their friends.
13:37 according to Amazon policy you cant use their name in anything or they will ban you.
Build a website around a problem, not a product. I heard an internet marketer once say that for every 3 commercial/review articles, you need 7 that are informative
Thank you :)
The funny thing is there's not much diff between the title Dirt Bike Planet and Rowing Machine Corner. It's in the execution.
"yah gotta have sum luuv for the reader" haha that made me laugh