"Disobedient to their parents" I understand that this is about parents who are loving and nourishing, not narcissistic parents, who can not be called "parents"
This was very helpful actually. My husband has tried to guilt me with the whole death do us part thing and I didn't agree with him at all but it's just nice to hear that I'm not wrong for not putting up with his toxic behavior against me and the kids.
I'm glad you feel validated. Yes, the whole 'until death do us part" thing assumes he has upheld his end of the marriage covenant. Otherwise, it's null and void.
I had narc parents and they’d use similar with all the respect your elders stuff etc. So then I was rather like ok whatever. Then just kill me now. 🙄 For real I would’ve rather died right then if that was my only way away from them. Thankfully that’s not the only way out tho. (And honestly didn’t even care if flipping them off was “wrong” lol. It’s rather like why not? According to them I’m already going to hell anyways, so go big or go home lol). I think it’s well worth the risk to utterly defy them. I guess the poetic irony with them does seem to be that we get so far “low down rogue/wrong” according to them, at some point it’s rather like ok. Nothing to lose…(as if one more “sin” is gonna matter since they say everything we do is a sin)…so why not just finally take the gloves all the way off? If I’m going to hell for it anyways, then at least I’ll be going with half a shred of dignity left and maybe be able to find some respite from them for the rest of my days down here.
@@goodenoughgirl8102 I hear you and understand. Please note ANY reaction or emotion that is provoked, is exactly what they want. NO CONTACT, NO REACTION, just disengage forever. Peace will follow in time
@@Shel-y5w I would say that by now I’m flippant with them. Flipping and telling off when you know that they have no real control isn’t the same as being angrily frustrated. And a bully smack down with putting your foot down isn’t the same as knee jerk reacting. I was just making the point anyways that it helps to make an internal stand like that. They lose loads of power that way. And as you know. There are some situations where you can’t just take up and move 500 miles away instantly. I would never want to be under the same roof tho. Even all the way across town seems not far enough.
I thought it good to also recommend here 3 recent books on narcissistic abuse in churches (1) Dr. Diane Langberg's "Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church", (2) Chuck DeGroat's "When Narcissism Comes to Church", and (3) Wade Mullen's "Something Is Not Right: Understanding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse". All of them are extremely insightful, and can help you stay strong in your Christian faith after escaping the devastation of narcissistic abuse.
Kim Saeed ? I've been a one of your followers for years. I love this. Voice is beautiful ! I hope you are well ! Thanks so much always. Love the Biblical edge 💜🙏✝️
❤❤ hello Kim Saeed, it’s been so long since I’ve heard your voice. I just want you to know you help me out for years or shall I say years ago and every year has gotten better in my life, thank you for bringing the soft side of this horrible personality to be affected by, your soft kind words help me heal. It really did as I learned as much as I could.❤❤❤❤ it’s been years so sometimes I do drop in just to say thank you Kim keep up the good work much love always , healthy ❤
I try to do the right thing of course but having to deal with them pretty much drove me to “idc if I go to hell for this Bcuz I’m already IN hell now and what’s the diff anyways?” Already was trapped in Satan’s lair. But of course later I realized it was actually correct and I wasn’t going to hell for any of it. And then also I was a little creeped out that maybe that’s where they’re going to wind up. I don’t even have to declare them Raca. They’ve already done it to themselves.
I have to stay in marriage w my narc. Husband 😞 I have zero personal family or friends in my life aside from his family (which I’m not close to at all) & we have small children. He said if I choose to divorce him, he’ll take full custody of the kids & say I’m incompetent cuz he’s aware of my weaknesses & suffering depression. 😢 I’m so alone in this suffering but I’m trying to hold onto God’s Word.
There is no Biblical law that requires us to stay in toxic/abusive marriages. That isn't God's Word. I recommend the work of Patrick Weaver Ministries on Facebook. He'll set the record straight for you. As far as his threats to take your children away, that depends on where you live. Here in the US, judges aren't too quick to rip children away from their mothers just because their mother is depressed. That doesn't make you unfit. Those threats all sound similar to the ones my ex used to make against me, but I left anyway and have primary physical custody of our son. However, it's always best to consult with an attorney in your area who is familiar with the laws of your locality.
"Disobedient to their parents" I understand that this is about parents who are loving and nourishing, not narcissistic parents, who can not be called "parents"
Yes, absolutely...
This was very helpful actually. My husband has tried to guilt me with the whole death do us part thing and I didn't agree with him at all but it's just nice to hear that I'm not wrong for not putting up with his toxic behavior against me and the kids.
I'm glad you feel validated. Yes, the whole 'until death do us part" thing assumes he has upheld his end of the marriage covenant. Otherwise, it's null and void.
I had narc parents and they’d use similar with all the respect your elders stuff etc. So then I was rather like ok whatever. Then just kill me now. 🙄 For real I would’ve rather died right then if that was my only way away from them. Thankfully that’s not the only way out tho. (And honestly didn’t even care if flipping them off was “wrong” lol. It’s rather like why not? According to them I’m already going to hell anyways, so go big or go home lol). I think it’s well worth the risk to utterly defy them.
I guess the poetic irony with them does seem to be that we get so far “low down rogue/wrong” according to them, at some point it’s rather like ok. Nothing to lose…(as if one more “sin” is gonna matter since they say everything we do is a sin)…so why not just finally take the gloves all the way off? If I’m going to hell for it anyways, then at least I’ll be going with half a shred of dignity left and maybe be able to find some respite from them for the rest of my days down here.
GOD will never want you to stay in an abusive relationship. Stsy strong. You'll be ok 🙏💜✝️
@@goodenoughgirl8102 I hear you and understand. Please note ANY reaction or emotion that is provoked, is exactly what they want. NO CONTACT, NO REACTION, just disengage forever. Peace will follow in time
@@Shel-y5w I would say that by now I’m flippant with them. Flipping and telling off when you know that they have no real control isn’t the same as being angrily frustrated. And a bully smack down with putting your foot down isn’t the same as knee jerk reacting. I was just making the point anyways that it helps to make an internal stand like that. They lose loads of power that way. And as you know. There are some situations where you can’t just take up and move 500 miles away instantly. I would never want to be under the same roof tho. Even all the way across town seems not far enough.
Now this was one helpful video, thank you.
Exactly 💯
Great content!
Thanks for sharing your video and explaining truth well said ❤
You are welcome 🤗
Speak through her Lord...Amen
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I thought it good to also recommend here 3 recent books on narcissistic abuse in churches (1) Dr. Diane Langberg's "Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church", (2) Chuck DeGroat's "When Narcissism Comes to Church", and (3) Wade Mullen's "Something Is Not Right: Understanding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse". All of them are extremely insightful, and can help you stay strong in your Christian faith after escaping the devastation of narcissistic abuse.
Kim Saeed ? I've been a one of your followers for years. I love this. Voice is beautiful ! I hope you are well ! Thanks so much always. Love the Biblical edge 💜🙏✝️
❤❤ hello Kim Saeed, it’s been so long since I’ve heard your voice. I just want you to know you help me out for years or shall I say years ago and every year has gotten better in my life, thank you for bringing the soft side of this horrible personality to be affected by, your soft kind words help me heal. It really did as I learned as much as I could.❤❤❤❤ it’s been years so sometimes I do drop in just to say thank you Kim keep up the good work much love always , healthy ❤
Wow I liked it before watching it, the narrator did a good job..
Thank you my coach.
Thank you for your kind words, as always. It's good to see you here
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EXCELLENT!
This is excellent!
Thank you.
Excellent video .
Thank you very much! 🤗
Thanks for your videos
I try to do the right thing of course but having to deal with them pretty much drove me to “idc if I go to hell for this Bcuz I’m already IN hell now and what’s the diff anyways?” Already was trapped in Satan’s lair. But of course later I realized it was actually correct and I wasn’t going to hell for any of it. And then also I was a little creeped out that maybe that’s where they’re going to wind up. I don’t even have to declare them Raca. They’ve already done it to themselves.
well.. this is how we change for better 👌
Thank you ❤
You're welcome 😊
I have to stay in marriage w my narc. Husband 😞 I have zero personal family or friends in my life aside from his family (which I’m not close to at all) & we have small children. He said if I choose to divorce him, he’ll take full custody of the kids & say I’m incompetent cuz he’s aware of my weaknesses & suffering depression. 😢 I’m so alone in this suffering but I’m trying to hold onto God’s Word.
There is no Biblical law that requires us to stay in toxic/abusive marriages. That isn't God's Word. I recommend the work of Patrick Weaver Ministries on Facebook. He'll set the record straight for you. As far as his threats to take your children away, that depends on where you live. Here in the US, judges aren't too quick to rip children away from their mothers just because their mother is depressed. That doesn't make you unfit. Those threats all sound similar to the ones my ex used to make against me, but I left anyway and have primary physical custody of our son. However, it's always best to consult with an attorney in your area who is familiar with the laws of your locality.
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I have already failed because I went off on my narc pastor this past Sunday!
You haven't failed. This man is not a pastor.
You should go to another church then.
Describing some priests and postors
Sometimes they’re the worst.
Yes. Certain so called Christians have treated me like trash for no reason and slandered my name.