While I agree with what you are saying, in principle, I've had a different experience. I have a 1970 Les Paul routed and modified for a Floyd Rose. It was a challenge, but my spring route does not go through into the pickup cavities. The trem does sit above the guitar maybe 3/16" of an inch or so, to accommodate for the steep neck angle. I don't mind this, it give me plenty of room between the strings, pickups and the body, for picking and strumming. Some players don't like this, and want the Floyd to be flush mount, with minimal room between the strings and body in the pickup area. Last thing, I have been playing this guitar for 20+ years and I can assure you that there is nothing 'off' about it, in both playing it and how it sounds. It's amazing. I had a lifetime professional guitar player put it through its paces, right after the conversion, and he concurred, saying that it "rocked hard!" lol. I also have a 1989 Burny Les Paul that came with a Factory Fernandes Floyd Rose. That guitar has a shallower neck angle to accommodate the Floyd, and shallow pickup routes as well. It is Killer.
I love a Floyd. I love Gibson. Its the neck angle of course. I have a Kahler on my 84 Explorer and it has been perfect through so many gigs from the 80s till early 00s. I always wanted a Floyd on one and it is possible of course, its just how Gibson angles the necks and body thickness. A tad thin. But my Kahler works just fine.
😂 what !? This video is only a day old and your comment is 19 hours old and you are telling me that you are already reminiscing about this video and you have seen tons of things 😂 to remind you !?
Certain bridges go with certain neck angles/styles. Fender necks are flat & straight where Gibsons are angled not only in the headstock, but also in the neck pocket they are glued into. This makes the string height over the body much higher but that is needed for the much taller Gibson style bridges. If you took one & put it on a strat, it's going to make the string action so high that it will be unplayable. So when trying to put a fende style bridge on a gibson, the neck angle will make it thay you'd need to raise the gridge greatly to even touch the strings. The work around would be to eliminate the neck angle but that's a lot of work and generally an undesirable modification for a gibson just to get a trem. As somebody else mentioned, just get an ibanez instead of butchering the gibson.
Interesting. I have an explorer that came with a Floyd from the factory. The body is thicker than a standard explorer body and the waist is slightly wider too. The neck is different too.
Hmmmm, perhaps you should try explaining this to my 3 Gibson M-III's with a stock Schaller Floyd Rose... Oh and I have seen plenty of surface mounted retro fit Floyd Rose kits for Gibsons with the stop bar tailpiece back in the day. Even one of my favorite guitarists, Steve Clark of Def Leppard (God rest his soul) rocked relatively stock Les Pauls with a Floyd. People are gonna do what they want to with their own guitars mannnnnn... Don't hate, celebrate! Variety is the spice of life. 🤣😁😎
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I installe Dusenburg Les Trem on my les paul and just installed on my SG, no probelms, no routing it surface mount, also bebds down whole step, bends up half step, also feels like not workung as hard playing. Please add roller bridge
I have a few TOM ax's with Floyds, Gib V, ML 3 custom V's. In general ur looking at about 3/16s of gap between top of body/bottom of Floyd. No probs ever in fact id say it destroys flush mount. IMHO the floyds with titanium sound brilliant, Kahler's dont
it's a travesty! 😋 if you insist on a trem for your Gibson, get a bigsby. if you want a floyd, get a Jackson or Charvel or some superstrat. i mean one of traits of a Gibson is all that wonderful wood, why hack it off?
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First time viewer. Good talk. Makes sense why they went with Kahler. Also props on Dethklok shirt….Cheers!
While I agree with what you are saying, in principle, I've had a different experience. I have a 1970 Les Paul routed and modified for a Floyd Rose. It was a challenge, but my spring route does not go through into the pickup cavities. The trem does sit above the guitar maybe 3/16" of an inch or so, to accommodate for the steep neck angle. I don't mind this, it give me plenty of room between the strings, pickups and the body, for picking and strumming. Some players don't like this, and want the Floyd to be flush mount, with minimal room between the strings and body in the pickup area. Last thing, I have been playing this guitar for 20+ years and I can assure you that there is nothing 'off' about it, in both playing it and how it sounds. It's amazing. I had a lifetime professional guitar player put it through its paces, right after the conversion, and he concurred, saying that it "rocked hard!" lol.
I also have a 1989 Burny Les Paul that came with a Factory Fernandes Floyd Rose. That guitar has a shallower neck angle to accommodate the Floyd, and shallow pickup routes as well. It is Killer.
I remember when Brad Gillis played with a black Les Paul Custom with a Floyd Rose, it looked badass!
Great topic Adam. I have always wondered about the Lifeson neck angle.
I love a Floyd. I love Gibson. Its the neck angle of course. I have a Kahler on my 84 Explorer and it has been perfect through so many gigs from the 80s till early 00s.
I always wanted a Floyd on one and it is possible of course, its just how Gibson angles the necks and body thickness. A tad thin.
But my Kahler works just fine.
Got my sub from the tux alone!
Never fear , There's a floyd frx surface mount made for stop bar guitars .
You can always get the Floyd rose that mount on the existing studs without routing the body
Every time I see an Explorer style with a Floyd Rose I will remember this video. thx
😂 what !? This video is only a day old and your comment is 19 hours old and you are telling me that you are already reminiscing about this video and you have seen tons of things 😂 to remind you !?
The lack of trem is what I love most about gibsons
Instant ‘like’ for the cat 🐈. And if you have to go with a metal trem on a Gibson go Kahler. Or a Bigsby if you don’t need all that.
Certain bridges go with certain neck angles/styles.
Fender necks are flat & straight where Gibsons are angled not only in the headstock, but also in the neck pocket they are glued into.
This makes the string height over the body much higher but that is needed for the much taller Gibson style bridges.
If you took one & put it on a strat, it's going to make the string action so high that it will be unplayable.
So when trying to put a fende style bridge on a gibson, the neck angle will make it thay you'd need to raise the gridge greatly to even touch the strings. The work around would be to eliminate the neck angle but that's a lot of work and generally an undesirable modification for a gibson just to get a trem. As somebody else mentioned, just get an ibanez instead of butchering the gibson.
Interesting. I have an explorer that came with a Floyd from the factory. The body is thicker than a standard explorer body and the waist is slightly wider too.
The neck is different too.
Dean has made thousands of Explorer shapes with Floyd Rose trems and they are great !
Lots of Gibsons ruined with added Kahlers too, just stop folks. Get an Ibanez already.
BTW, great shirt Adam !
Hmmmm, perhaps you should try explaining this to my 3 Gibson M-III's with a stock Schaller Floyd Rose... Oh and I have seen plenty of surface mounted retro fit Floyd Rose kits for Gibsons with the stop bar tailpiece back in the day. Even one of my favorite guitarists, Steve Clark of Def Leppard (God rest his soul) rocked relatively stock Les Pauls with a Floyd. People are gonna do what they want to with their own guitars mannnnnn... Don't hate, celebrate! Variety is the spice of life. 🤣😁😎
This video is about retro fitting, not OEM. Explorers and SGs more then Les Pauls as well.
I have 2 Les Paul's with factory fr. One was made in 2011 the other 22. My #1 and 2 out of 14 others.
Ive hacked those pole piece threads off before it sounded maybe a bit brighter but i needed the real estate 😂
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That's one cool cat.
Makes sense!
I installe Dusenburg Les Trem on my les paul and just installed on my SG, no probelms, no routing it surface mount, also bebds down whole step, bends up half step, also feels like not workung as hard playing. Please add roller bridge
I have a few TOM ax's with Floyds, Gib V, ML 3 custom V's. In general ur looking at about 3/16s of gap between top of body/bottom of Floyd. No probs ever in fact id say it destroys flush mount. IMHO the floyds with titanium sound brilliant, Kahler's dont
it's a travesty! 😋 if you insist on a trem for your Gibson, get a bigsby. if you want a floyd, get a Jackson or Charvel or some superstrat. i mean one of traits of a Gibson is all that wonderful wood, why hack it off?
Les paul stuido shred !
If you know how to properly setup your guitar you don't need a shitty Floyd. Floyd are for the lazy or uneducated player.