This is a good tutorial but you shouldn't really use a trapezoid for the pelvis even for heavy bottom characters - just use a wider cuboid. The problem is you are putting a hip just under the illiac spine which is totally anatomically incorrect - hip is way into the back. That's why your hips look so thin in the drawing you did around 17 minute. Box method is great but take a better look how the box is describing the pelvis anatomically. Cheers!
OHHH OKAYYY, I see what you mean. Another good way of putting it would be pushing the hip upwards more (if you're looking at it from a frontal view). This isn't something id considered till now haha, the main idea of using the trapezoid was to get a good silhouette of the hips without losing the stomach line. For either method Ig its just a matter of remembering how and where to adjust your placements when drawing. But thanks for the feedback, Ill continue to learn myself ;)!
@@qtpatrol sure - you can adjust to any shape :D I like rectangle more because quad muscle attach to the pelvis in the straight down from illiac spine so having the line down you now exactly where top of the leg joins. But you can just draw straight vertical lines from top corners - these are very useful. Keep up the good work!
@@pitrek121g TYTY, ill keep that in mind. Ive exhausted alot of time into learning shoulder and the front upper torso anatomy without considering the tricks I could use for the lower half, Ill use your recommendations for my studies in the future! :)
@@achievementart yes, a pelvis is the widest at the height of greater trochanters when standing (I am talking about the pelvis area of the human being not the bone itself 😅) and these are in around half of the box while looking at the side of the body. In the video it was like these are at the front of the pelvis
simple and relatable! as someone who continuously struggling with body structure, videos like this are so revealing, there's never enough you know. keep it up
THIS is good. As someone who has struggled a lot with intuitively grasping construction and translating it into a finished figure, your tutorials are VERY much needed and appreciated. Many artists don't realize how quickly these basic ideas just click for them, so your effort to break it down, and dig deeper is a big deal. Looking forward to even more!
Thanks a bunch! I realized a while ago that I was struggling to apply these concepts myself so I wanted to find ways to both understand and make them easier to understand aswell. Art can be a struggle even when it looks easy, biggest part is learnijg all the little tricks and tips ;)
I've gradually taken the approach of construction being a thing derived automatically from contour and cross-contour studies, rather than a defined "method". It's true that having the planes of the box is helpful as a way to make the form crisp and spot some errors, but the more often you follow the contour, the more you automatically spot the landmarks on each part of the contour, so as long as you're observing a lot of real stuff and studying it from many angles and applying cross-sections, you always end up having the planes and relationships in your head. And then construction is just a matter of whether you want to let the contours drift into impressionism or if you want them tightened up to present depth of perspective and photoreal proportions. I'm following along little with these boxes, though, and it's odd how much I can feel the muscle memory of my study approach kicking in as soon as I start following the contour of the box and saying "oh, it's this configuration, so then make this kind of motion and that's about what the pelvis will look like in that angle." It's like looking at an apple and immediately writing "apple".
Exactly, good point twhich you made that I forgot to add in about contours. Its important to remember that the body has tons of them and very little flat areas, esp in the front of the torso. There are some areas which are tempting to draw flat with the planes like the collarbones when in actuality, it depends on the style and or realism. I use cross contour every so often, but normally for the limbs OR if my torsu structure feels off (like muscle, breasts, etc). Might be a good thing to make notes on in the future ╥﹏╥. Noice catch :3!
Really good tutorial, I just started to learn digiArt yesterday and learning how to draw pose. I just try to follow along some tutorials without really understand about the box thing. This tutorial really helpful for me, and now I'm learning how to draw the box to help me to draw pose better. Thanks!
@@qtpatrol Yes, today is my 5th day of learning and I'm still trying to get used to pentab while drawing difficult poses and shapes. Sometimes it feels like what I draw is different from the example, but I know that I just need to draw and learn more, Thank you!
Honestly I have always loved art mostly animation and I have always wanted to get better and after watching this it just seems fun this method is just fun to see so thank you for making this it was a pleasure and I hope you can continue helping others like you did for me
Your video was very informative and useful for me), thank you, I was very surprised how you came up with the idea to make a model for drawing, I'll try to make it myself. Thanks to the recommendations of TH-cam, greetings from Russia, good luck in the development of the channel.
The point of the box is that from there you can take most shapes out of the box, like cilinders to the round parts of the bodies, the basic shapes is to understan how the body connects and from there and practice you will get the hang of it and do it with out shapes and thats what any artist want to archive
just recently i learnt that everything is made out of box shape and i was practicing sketches of simplified poses using only boxes and cylinders and this video just pushes it, on my way to be an artist frr
Thank you so much lately I've been trying too understand construction and how to apply methods. I have been using the circle method but it was very hard for me to understand it. And actually apply it to my art. But I've been using this method and I have been able too see it. I also struggle with making my characters too thick or too thin. I love this tutorial and it helped me so much. You've gained a subscriber. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
i actually just Recently Discover this too Awesome... Been Using Blender Free Models (the Humanoid Ones, and Been Using a Box and Try to see Where Things Fall, Just to have a Better Understanding of Things... of course they are just Simply Posing a Default Pose... but its Good to see that it can Scale if Done Propertly... i did Learn a Lot - i learn Where the Shoulder Goes on - how Should i think about the Skin - Think about Push and Pull (if its Pulling it Should Show Bone - otherWise Show Fat/Skin... But Respect the Bone Cause that is the Reason its Pushing Forward in the First-place).... Hmmm and Also Understanding More Complex Posing - What Happens When it Hides from you... Try to "Aproximate" as Best you can.... Since Experience Comes in Handy... but Relying on the Basic Shapes Helps A Lot since you are Shooting Blind all the Time, and Brings in Muscle memory into Account (Since you are Seeing the Same Pose Over Over Over again you can Re-use Poses... ETC.ETC.ETC
This method works great, but what Ive learned from my experiences in art college is a method I prefer! Basically you make a simple boxy shape of the overall pose, then add an oval for the ribcage, a triangle up to the neck, and then lil triange undies. From there you can add the butt right underneath those undies (since it hangs lower than the front) and easily finish the pose. Doing this has made my gesture work insanely fast, and I was able to complete 100 gestures in a single day because of it, with 45 sec-1min for each (which definately was not needed due to procrastination :D)
If you want a accurate representation put the rib cage and pelvis into the boxes it helps when visualize the figure in the boxes. So when practicing drawing boxes try using a different color pencil to line out the rib cage and pelvis. The pelvis is have a shorter box vs the ribcage one you are done practicing that for a few days then box out your favorite character poses then you can start to see it come together just by using boxes because you already have visual knowledge of drawing the ribcage and pelvis. Hope this help those inspiring artists
The way you place your pelvis box is a bit off. Since the pelvis tilts forward in space, the tips of the bone would be slightly below the belly button line. The bumps that protrude on the belly button line is actually the flank portion of the oblique, and the reason why it looks like it's a part of the pelvis is because on some people (mainly female bodies, sometimes male) the flank portion of the oblique melds into the pelvis, creating the smooth bump. Hope this helps a bit.
Yeah that's a good thing to note! I did adjust the pelvis a bit later during the demonstration but I did not make considerations for tilt or anything of that matter, nor how fat and muscle make you lose sight of the pelvis's functionality. I don't believe box itself is entirely wrong but specifying the landmarks properly would be a good consideration to make to clean up any weird areas. Ill be sure to clear that up in the future for sure, thanks for the feedback!!!
With your little model you made, something I think you could do is put something between the top and bottom pieces that you can wrap a bendable material around, like the flower stems you used. could make it a little bit more useful than it already is 🤷♂ I'd have to go and try it myself to see, but ye
you are a goat for this! if its too much to ask pls dont worry about it, just was curious if you would be willing to put all the pictures of the model you may have taken, that werent included in the video, into like a doc. or imgur and link in desc so we could practice on them? Great vid btw
I'm late but I do wanna ask, do you have the measurements for the model? I'm currently trying to make one right now and it would be great to not have to blindly follow from what I see. Anyway, big kudos for the video, it helped me learn a lot about the basic of construction!
i’ve been using these methods for a while now but it never really ‘clicked’ for me. thank you for the tutorial hopefully i’ll finally get it down with this!
This is a good tutorial but you shouldn't really use a trapezoid for the pelvis even for heavy bottom characters - just use a wider cuboid. The problem is you are putting a hip just under the illiac spine which is totally anatomically incorrect - hip is way into the back. That's why your hips look so thin in the drawing you did around 17 minute. Box method is great but take a better look how the box is describing the pelvis anatomically. Cheers!
OHHH OKAYYY, I see what you mean. Another good way of putting it would be pushing the hip upwards more (if you're looking at it from a frontal view). This isn't something id considered till now haha, the main idea of using the trapezoid was to get a good silhouette of the hips without losing the stomach line. For either method Ig its just a matter of remembering how and where to adjust your placements when drawing. But thanks for the feedback, Ill continue to learn myself ;)!
@@qtpatrol sure - you can adjust to any shape :D I like rectangle more because quad muscle attach to the pelvis in the straight down from illiac spine so having the line down you now exactly where top of the leg joins. But you can just draw straight vertical lines from top corners - these are very useful. Keep up the good work!
@@pitrek121g TYTY, ill keep that in mind. Ive exhausted alot of time into learning shoulder and the front upper torso anatomy without considering the tricks I could use for the lower half, Ill use your recommendations for my studies in the future! :)
Elaborate please, are you talking about the greater trochanter, or something else
@@achievementart yes, a pelvis is the widest at the height of greater trochanters when standing (I am talking about the pelvis area of the human being not the bone itself 😅) and these are in around half of the box while looking at the side of the body. In the video it was like these are at the front of the pelvis
fuck it we goin square
Awwe man I messed up, we gotta go square
- Mojang Studios, May 2009
@@avokka lmao
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simple and relatable! as someone who continuously struggling with body structure, videos like this are so revealing, there's never enough you know. keep it up
I FEEL THE SAME! The path of learning is a long and never ending one so you gotta be open to the process B). Thx for the support!
THIS is good. As someone who has struggled a lot with intuitively grasping construction and translating it into a finished figure, your tutorials are VERY much needed and appreciated.
Many artists don't realize how quickly these basic ideas just click for them, so your effort to break it down, and dig deeper is a big deal. Looking forward to even more!
Agree.
Thanks a bunch! I realized a while ago that I was struggling to apply these concepts myself so I wanted to find ways to both understand and make them easier to understand aswell. Art can be a struggle even when it looks easy, biggest part is learnijg all the little tricks and tips ;)
This is why it’s worth going to art school.
Yeah lol
Damn, this is the motivation I needed to continue learning to draw rotated boxes
ROTATE THEM BOXES SON!
@@qtpatrolboxing👊👁👄👁👊
I've gradually taken the approach of construction being a thing derived automatically from contour and cross-contour studies, rather than a defined "method". It's true that having the planes of the box is helpful as a way to make the form crisp and spot some errors, but the more often you follow the contour, the more you automatically spot the landmarks on each part of the contour, so as long as you're observing a lot of real stuff and studying it from many angles and applying cross-sections, you always end up having the planes and relationships in your head. And then construction is just a matter of whether you want to let the contours drift into impressionism or if you want them tightened up to present depth of perspective and photoreal proportions.
I'm following along little with these boxes, though, and it's odd how much I can feel the muscle memory of my study approach kicking in as soon as I start following the contour of the box and saying "oh, it's this configuration, so then make this kind of motion and that's about what the pelvis will look like in that angle." It's like looking at an apple and immediately writing "apple".
Exactly, good point twhich you made that I forgot to add in about contours. Its important to remember that the body has tons of them and very little flat areas, esp in the front of the torso. There are some areas which are tempting to draw flat with the planes like the collarbones when in actuality, it depends on the style and or realism. I use cross contour every so often, but normally for the limbs OR if my torsu structure feels off (like muscle, breasts, etc). Might be a good thing to make notes on in the future ╥﹏╥. Noice catch :3!
Really good tutorial, I just started to learn digiArt yesterday and learning how to draw pose. I just try to follow along some tutorials without really understand about the box thing. This tutorial really helpful for me, and now I'm learning how to draw the box to help me to draw pose better. Thanks!
Hope you learned alot! Learning is a constant cycle so sometimes its hard to find a good resource. Its good to keep studying irregardless tho!
@@qtpatrol Yes, today is my 5th day of learning and I'm still trying to get used to pentab while drawing difficult poses and shapes.
Sometimes it feels like what I draw is different from the example, but I know that I just need to draw and learn more, Thank you!
Honestly I have always loved art mostly animation and I have always wanted to get better and after watching this it just seems fun this method is just fun to see so thank you for making this it was a pleasure and I hope you can continue helping others like you did for me
for sure, learning is the biggest part, and you never wanna stop doing it
Loving the box 2 piece, it really compliments your Figure
tyty, its designer in fact
Just found this video but will say just seeing you wearing the boxes actually helped me understand a lot of where I was messing up with this method
TYSM, I was almost crying when trying to learn the box method alone, your video saved my life
most of you watched from the thumbnail,
I watched it to make accurate anatomy,
we are not the same.
I was thirsty and i was trapped
slut! just like me😂
same finally I have someone I can relate
Then drink some water
@@Ninentofr
i hope you get out soon man stay safe
What a great video! I was trying to wrap my head around the box construction for so long and you made it so easy! Thanks!
i just saw the pt 1 you are good at explaining things
Thanks I try my best! I just gotta figure out how to make these videos a bit shorter and faster is all haha
Absolute best. Preaching the words of the almighty Glen Vilppu.
Clicked for the thumbnail, left with a good art lesson. 🗿🍷
Agreed🗿
This really helped me with consistency in my characters 💙
Your video was very informative and useful for me), thank you, I was very surprised how you came up with the idea to make a model for drawing, I'll try to make it myself.
Thanks to the recommendations of TH-cam, greetings from Russia, good luck in the development of the channel.
In the summer I teach 2D drawing for game development and I taught the BOX METHOD. Legendary! xD
the way the pictures progressed to a good sketch with just a few lines is amazing
The point of the box is that from there you can take most shapes out of the box, like cilinders to the round parts of the bodies, the basic shapes is to understan how the body connects and from there and practice you will get the hang of it and do it with out shapes and thats what any artist want to archive
dang, how creative to explain how box method works
just recently i learnt that everything is made out of box shape and i was practicing sketches of simplified poses using only boxes and cylinders and this video just pushes it, on my way to be an artist frr
LETS SEE THEM BOXES!!!1!!
THIS AS THE VIDEO IT TOOK FOR ME TO SEE IT AND MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!! THANK YOU OH MY GOD
Thank you so much lately I've been trying too understand construction and how to apply methods. I have been using the circle method but it was very hard for me to understand it. And actually apply it to my art. But I've been using this method and I have been able too see it. I also struggle with making my characters too thick or too thin. I love this tutorial and it helped me so much. You've gained a subscriber. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
i actually just Recently Discover this too Awesome... Been Using Blender Free Models (the Humanoid Ones, and Been Using a Box and Try to see Where Things Fall,
Just to have a Better Understanding of Things... of course they are just Simply Posing a Default Pose... but its Good to see that it can Scale if Done Propertly...
i did Learn a Lot - i learn Where the Shoulder Goes on - how Should i think about the Skin - Think about Push and Pull (if its Pulling it Should Show Bone - otherWise Show Fat/Skin... But Respect the Bone Cause that is the Reason its Pushing Forward in the First-place).... Hmmm
and Also Understanding More Complex Posing - What Happens When it Hides from you... Try to "Aproximate" as Best you can.... Since Experience Comes in Handy... but Relying on the Basic Shapes Helps A Lot since you are Shooting Blind all the Time, and Brings in Muscle memory into Account (Since you are Seeing the Same Pose Over Over Over again you can Re-use Poses...
ETC.ETC.ETC
This method works great, but what Ive learned from my experiences in art college is a method I prefer!
Basically you make a simple boxy shape of the overall pose, then add an oval for the ribcage, a triangle up to the neck, and then lil triange undies. From there you can add the butt right underneath those undies (since it hangs lower than the front) and easily finish the pose. Doing this has made my gesture work insanely fast, and I was able to complete 100 gestures in a single day because of it, with 45 sec-1min for each (which definately was not needed due to procrastination :D)
Actually sounds really cool! You happen to have a link to like an imgur or a video demonstration that shows this method?
Ditto on asking for a short video explanation/demonstration lol. The triangle is for the neck (shoulders up)? Or does it go further?
would definitely like a demonstration
Me too
That’s a great idea to wear box to show how to use a box for posing and perspective great video 👍👍👍👍
this is probably the most helpful vid I've come across thx.
You know you're getting a good informational video when the man has and Banana oni pfp
BANONI SUPPORTER SPOTTED!!1!!!!!
If you want a accurate representation put the rib cage and pelvis into the boxes it helps when visualize the figure in the boxes. So when practicing drawing boxes try using a different color pencil to line out the rib cage and pelvis. The pelvis is have a shorter box vs the ribcage one you are done practicing that for a few days then box out your favorite character poses then you can start to see it come together just by using boxes because you already have visual knowledge of drawing the ribcage and pelvis. Hope this help those inspiring artists
This is actually the first time I've seen a guy in a box on TH-cam. Neat.
proffessional boxer*
I sure do love watching content about 3D modelling
I love art tutorials man.
The thumbnail and the examples are always good to bust a nut rq
now I'm in love with your boxy figure. it was so squary and visual!
Damn, this is fun tutorial, and i'm hooked with your explanation. This is what i need, thank you!
i really needed this rn lmao, tnx man, its a really gud tutorial.
ill try to make my model too
lmk how it goes o7
開始3秒で高評価しました😂😂
I rated it highly within 3 seconds of starting.
The way you place your pelvis box is a bit off.
Since the pelvis tilts forward in space, the tips of the bone would be slightly below the belly button line. The bumps that protrude on the belly button line is actually the flank portion of the oblique, and the reason why it looks like it's a part of the pelvis is because on some people (mainly female bodies, sometimes male) the flank portion of the oblique melds into the pelvis, creating the smooth bump.
Hope this helps a bit.
Yeah that's a good thing to note! I did adjust the pelvis a bit later during the demonstration but I did not make considerations for tilt or anything of that matter, nor how fat and muscle make you lose sight of the pelvis's functionality. I don't believe box itself is entirely wrong but specifying the landmarks properly would be a good consideration to make to clean up any weird areas. Ill be sure to clear that up in the future for sure, thanks for the feedback!!!
Banger vid i was judt looking for somrone to guide me through their own process of usijg this method because mentally i could not grasp it lmao
no way you are under 1k subs
can't wait to see you hit a million subs!
Gotta aim for 1k first haha, but thx for the support, I really appreciate it (❁´◡`❁)!
I've been using the bean method by proko, but this one is good too.
Hope it continues this is really good! Congratulations on 500+ subs🎉
Thanks so much!!!
With your little model you made, something I think you could do is put something between the top and bottom pieces that you can wrap a bendable material around, like the flower stems you used. could make it a little bit more useful than it already is 🤷♂ I'd have to go and try it myself to see, but ye
This is suck an awesome method. Thank you so much for the explanation and figure creation !! Cheers!
Definitely going to be making something like this in blender to help me out. Thanks for this. :)
Thanks for the video. I really want to improve in that area of the body
Mans really blew up, here before 2k !!
Thanks bruh, appreciate u 😤❤
youre a cool guy. thanks for the video dude
best drawing method fr
Banger tutorial man, thanks for sharing!
this guy is underrated give him mores subs
Minecraft mode activated
Thank you bro. You've helped me alot!
A comment of support to a fellow artist! You are doing great job, keep it going! :)
TYYYY 🙏
Boxes are fine and all, but have you tried...
THE GOLDEN RATIO?! FIND THE GOLDEN RATIO, JOHNNY!
Finally, a video of culture
where has this been my whole life drawing characters has never been easier lol :0
Instructions unclear, drew minecraft Steve
actually very good and simple. thank you!
this is how we define goat
This is super helpful, can you do the tutorial for sphere method to??
possibly--- I dont use it too much myself and when I do I apply it differently, but ill do my best o7
Good video bro, thanks for you explication
you are a goat for this! if its too much to ask pls dont worry about it, just was curious if you would be willing to put all the pictures of the model you may have taken, that werent included in the video, into like a doc. or imgur and link in desc so we could practice on them? Great vid btw
yeah maybe ill do that aswell as blue prints for the model itself when I have time!
This actually brilliant.
...it makes so much sense now
Real good thumbnail bro
how do you have so little subs, this is such a good tutorial it's unreal
Just started making videos recently, we still gots a ways to go! Thanks for the support, appreciate you o7
thank you, i was having a headache seeing every tutorial but not explaining which guidelines can help you to do it
Bro walked in with the box and everything just suddenly made so much more sense
U saved my chunli drawing thank u
I’m going to get my boxes ready soon lol thank u 👐🏼👐🏼
32 minutes of straight facts
I have been screaming "ITS ALL SQUARES AND BOXES HOLY SHT I CAN SEE EVERYTHING" ever since ive learned this
everything is boxes, you, me, the dog
Men of culture honing our skills.
finally!!! someone who thinks like me!!! thnks!!!!
I literally watched the first part today, your tutorials have helped me in many ways. Consider me a new sub :)
same
Thanks, hope you learn alot and that we can both learn more in the future!
Thank u! this is very helpful!
when you yourself is an art lol, thanks for this guide
The video picture got our guard down
i hope you continue to do tutorial videos they are really helpfull
Thanks Ill do my best!
Really helpful bring a video in a month if can be in week
MAN IN THE BOXXX
Thank you a lot this should help me with my drawing journey
I'm late but I do wanna ask, do you have the measurements for the model? I'm currently trying to make one right now and it would be great to not have to blindly follow from what I see.
Anyway, big kudos for the video, it helped me learn a lot about the basic of construction!
if that intro wasn't sub worthy nothing is.
godly method for a godly vid 💪
I use clay and bronze wire for the spine
Love the intro.
jeez i could only imagine getting this good a drawing
i’ve been using these methods for a while now but it never really ‘clicked’ for me. thank you for the tutorial hopefully i’ll finally get it down with this!
For sure for sure, lmk how it goes and if you have any questions I can help with!
Excellent overview! You nailed it and actually went into detail about it too.
I want a box skeleton doll too 😭, where can i get one? How can i do it? What measures?
Ty sir this is very helpful.
This thumbnail is crazy, how could you exclude me, The Shredder, from your thumbnail? This has to be a felony
thank you for the silly intro, it made me smile. also great info!
me feeling happy to see u before you get more famous in the future: 😇
You might tape those boxes to a proportional Halloween skeleton
honestly thats so big brain in more ways than one