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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2023
- Quote long, but very detailed comparison of both cars sharing many part but being different in many ways too. Let me know which one you chose any why.
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Parts:
Suspension: Bilstein B16 from ML Performance
Brake pads: EBC BlueStuff
Brake fluid: Motul RBF600
Brake lines: Goodridge
AutoID - black grills, M-mirrors, black badge and carbon CS style spoiler.
Carbon M-style exhaust tips
Automotive Passion - Carbon Arch Guards
Carbon Diffuser
M Performance gear shifter, M Performance race display steering wheel and handbrake.
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Nice vid and nice cars ! For me, the best choice is an lci og.
Yeah agreed , that’s what I bought 💙
Same here
Same here
A really good, balanced comparison. Let's face it, whichever one you buy you are not going to be disappointed.
Thank you. Exactly that. I think the choice is more down to you budget and if you want to tune it or not.
Good comparison - I think it has reaffirmed my decision of getting an LCI. It’s the Goldilocks version in my opinion. The sound and overall character coupled with the slightly more modern interior and tech.
Likewise with the manual box, no regrets there. Much more involvement.
I agree with you on the Competition seats after test driving an M4 Comp, found them less comfortable. Do look good though!
Thanks. I almost got LCI but then found preLCI for £3k less with 2 year’s warranty so was no brainier.
Great review! Thanks
Thank you
Great video and well thought out. Both are great cars in their own right
Thanks. More comparisons between the two soon.
Great video, dzięki Marek
Pozdro
Great video.
I'd be very happy with either as a weekend toy.
Both are amazing
Great video mate - look forward to the follow up 😅
Thanks for making it possible Joe!
Great video. As an owner of the competition, this was very informative and interesting. Thank you.
On a completely unrelated topic, where did you find that camera seat bracket? Do you think it is any good?
Thank you. I can tell you the company name in a couple of days as I’m away and I don’t remember it. It’s a UK company. It is absolutely fantastic. Have a look at my videos from Nurburgring to see how it works.
Would love if you could do a comparison between an M2 and M4. Having trouble deciding what's better for my next daily!
Hi. I need to ask around if there is anyone with M4 who would be willing to colab with me on this one.
Hi thank u for the very thorough video. Can you plz tell me-What’s the front splitter on the m2c?
Thanks. It’s genuine BMW one.
Epic video! ❤
Love both options, but the OG LCI has a soft spot in our heart. We just bought an OG LCI Manual.
Big love for the TRE Mirrors 💙
Thanks. Will it become your show car?
OG LCI manual is the perfect M2
The suspension components are allegedly the same between OG & Comp - springs, shocks/struts, bushings - what's different in the Comp is the bracing at the front. In addition to the CF brace, there's also an additional brace at the firewall (that's also present in the M3/M4) that also adds additional rigidity. I suspect that it's the 2 additional braces that produce a different suspension/front end feel.
I know about the additional braces but I thought there are other differences too. If this would be the case, the differences in the feel could’ve been simply the extra weight of the comp making it feel less nervous.
I’d assume the dampers (at least software wise) and anti roll bars are different considering the difference in weight between two cars
@@baronmunchausen645No they are all the same, you can just compare the parts numbers. The dampers also have no software, they are not adaptive on the M2 unless the CS.
@@baronmunchausen645 I can confirm they are identical and share the same parts. This is why when you jump in a comp from an OG it feels like you are driving the extact same car. The only diffrence is the comp is very queit due to exhaust restrictions and sounds pretty dull if you have the windows down. The performance diffrence is hardly noticable unless your well over 100mph.
It’s also the tuning the the comp steering which BMW can also program in any BMW. You could get the struts and brace and tuning software and put them in the og and would make it even better. Both engines can be modified to high hp numbers. I absolutely do not like the sound of the s55 unless it’s with a single turbo conversion which at that point just get the og which is what I did. I have a 2028 lci with the struts and cf brace and steering tuned to the cs and it’s a game changer. I am also adding either a big boost turbo or pure 800 to my og. I’ve already done all the mods needed prior to this.
Good side by side driving dynamics comparison. Personally I prefer the look and overall stance of the OG F87, less aggressive (modern) but more timeless & classic. The N55B30T0 kind of struggle to put power down vs S55, can feel turbo lag (stock mapping), lacks high rev range pull (N55 revs too quickly towards redline), but the exhaust sound (ASD off always) compensates it, the S55 muffler udder is really an eyesore (at least for me), never a big fan of the twin turbo S55 exhaust sound style...
OG vs OG LCI - prefer the old headlights (eyebrows lit up as well) and classic L shaped tail lights (some bulbs are halogen though...). The instrument cluster in OG, definitely more classic (orange) but during the day, incoming light makes it almost invisible - can't be used as a speeding excuse unfortunately).
Anyway, one can;t go wrong with either!
Thank you for a great comment. It is very personal choice with these cars. I like the mix of things in both cars but you are right, OG feels more classic BMW to me.
Great comparison thank you
I’m glad you found it useful.
Amazing comparison, really! One of the best I’ve seen so far. Thanks for this video. I believe the LCI M2 is absolutely the sweet spot, the M2C is a beast but it really need a different exhaust to make it perfect, the equal length midpipe resonated version sound amazing on the S55! And it absolutely need to have the fake engine sounds deactivated. Other than that the Comp is actually pretty much spot on and have all the fancy stuff and upgrades from the factory, the only downside is the Crank hub thing, but honestly I think it’s absolutely overhyped and a capture plate would give you peace of mind even with a non-extreme pump fuels stage 2.
Thanks. I’m glad you found it helpful. Regards 👋
I have an og m2, when i push it to the limit i feel that it is not stiff enough to stay low. It has a high body roll. I want to check if this is eliminated in the m2 comp
Hi. If anything, Comp felt slightly softer to me, less nervous. You need coilovers.
Pick up my m2 comp this week may see ya at motorist if ever that way out
I bet you will love it. Enjoy it mate! I’m not sure when I will be there next time. I’m at the ring this weekend.
Would love to see stage 2 OG vs stage 2 Comp 😊
I think Comp would show a clear advantage when tuned.
The LCI with the M performance exhaust is incredible
I had an m performance exhaust but I took it off as it was droning at motorway speeds.
It’s what I have. Never had that issue. Sorry to hear that happened to you. Love the system. I feel that it gains HP. But can be only a placebo effect
@@renatomarques264I loved the sound but in manual I was in the drone zone at 70mph.
The og M2 looks better. The interior is on the comp is nicer though
I like comp from the outside too. Apart from the sack at the back 🫣
Having owned an OG (Still own) and leased a Comp I can honestly say day to day driving, there isnt that much diffrence in the way they drive if they are both have the DCT. I actually went to the OG M2 simply because it was a better price, sounded significantly better and the seats are pretty easy to come by for the upgrade. You really have to open up the Comp to notice the diffrence but from a dig to 0-60 there is nothing in it. They feel and handle the same to me. If your not on a race track there is pretty much no way to tell the diffrence on the streets. The comp just has alot more tuning potential if your going to be doing alot of mods. If you single turbo the comps you can make them sound as good as the OG too but its alot of money and voids any manufacturer extended warrenty you have. I think for people looking for an m car experience and want the best bang for your buck its gotta be the OG. Plus the Comp wheels are awful in my opinion. If Id have gone back to a comp id have swapped the wheels with the og wheels.
Thanks. Great comment. I totally agree with all of your points. Best regards 👋
You said it struggles to put the power down ? It will do in mdm mode ! I take it you were driving in mdm mode, as I’m sure he said he had to press the M button twice ?
( I own a comp by the way )
Both cars easily lose traction when you floor them. They were on the same tyres. Comp had shorter gearing and more torque so no surprise it was spinning the wheels easier.
MDM mode for the comp yes but also Sport + in the OG, so both were in a halfway house mode. Just ready for new tyres I think!
@@1J1C1 so that’s why it’s breaking traction ! It will break traction quite easily in mdm mode
@@MDriveswhere are you getting this information? M2,M3,M4 original, LCi and Comp models all use the same interchangeable gearbox!
If one is going faster in the same gear it’s down to the maximum revs from the engine!
@@lloyd.8272 I think you forgot that my OG is manual and the comp is DCT so the ratios are different.
Thanks for the video.. I loved the comparison. I am in the market to buy a M2: leaning towards the OG M2
Both are great cars. If you want a lot of power then M2c is the winner. Otherwise I can’t fault OG
good content. Note on OG M2, changing the modes does not change stiffness or steering feel. OG is static
You can set it up to change steering wheel feel on the OG. I have on mine .
You can but it’s linked to the modes. You can change chassis setting which determines if steering gets harder in sport and sport+ or just sport+
Comfort/Sport/Sport+ modes all have different steering and throttle weights and sensitivity
@@cw205mi16 not exactly. There are only two steering modes. Comfort and sport. Depending how you assign it in idrive sport will activate in sport and + or just in +
@@MDrives different on all 3 modes on mine, gets weightier in each
Trying to decide between these two cars right now. Such a tough decision.
You can’t go wrong with either. If you want to tune it and get more power, comp is the way to go otherwise OG sounds much better and is still bloody fast!
@MDrives yeah I think that's where I'm going. Plus a little cheaper. Only issue is it's past any warranty, whereas a lot of the comps I'm seeing still have some factory warranty left, cause they're newer. Still think I'm going OG. Great video thanks!
Fun video mate
So what do you guys think about the new M2.
I love it. Looks different.
Driving all 3 back to back for a future video a guys😉
Thanks. In regards to the new M2, I’m not sold on the looks. I’m sure it’s amazingly fast and capable but probably not as engaging as older ones.
I get that.
I have driven OG M2 manual on number of times but found it numb but to be honest that's all most all cars made after 2014.
Fast yeah all M2.
PS I have GR Yaris. It's same numb unless driven hard. It's the world we live in unless you mod it.
I think electric steering racks have a big part to play in the numb feeling nowadays, unfortunately unless you go for an older car or Lotus it seems unavoidable!
Get some ps4,s on the rear and you will get the power down a lot better then super sports . Also I believe the suspension is the same on both cars but the comp is heavier which probably makes it feel different
I think there are slight differences in spring rates. I know the top mounts are different but I’m not 100% sure.
The comp has stiffer suspension and the rear axle is different. There’s more to a comp vs og than just an engine.
@@Tatts084 definitely there are some small differences here and there
@@MDrives yes there’s a few small adjustments. The steering rack is one that’s overlooked too.
I usually troll people when they bring this topic up as tbh you can’t go wrong with either. Both have pros and cons.
I did the aluminum brace and cf brace conversion on my OG and I feel it takes the bumps alot better . Turn in also improved. This is the missing link between the OG and the comp
Ive owned both and the Comp is def. more settled at speed, but as said probably due to the extra weight. They are both great cars but the Comp edges it for me. If we could have a Comp with the OG noise that would be perfect!
Have you sold your comp now then ?
No
Ok thought you was going electric 😉
@@jamiecoutts8211 🤣
I think overall, comp has the edge but o don’t think you can go wrong buying any of them.
Is M2C softer than M2?
No. It feels a bit different due to weight difference but it’s almost the same.
OG seems to be the way to go, mostly the LCI OG M2 and simply upgrade the suspension with good coil overs and the engine to be bullet proof.
Hell I’d say Swap the N55 for a B58 and tune it to make it a monster to compete with the Comp
Haha, it would be probably more reliable than the S55 😂
@@MDrives and I rather it be reliable than fast at the end of the day lmao
@@mineralgrey8332 definitely
If I could get £1 for each time guy in glasses says "yeah" I could afford both m2's
Don’t be sour 😘
OG LCI >>>>>>>>
Probably the best of two.
Weird about your creaks I have no creaks at all in my M2 🤷♂️
Mines equally as bad! Rattles like crazy.
Weird. Do you live in area with relatively smooth roads? Where I live roads are mega bumpy
@@MDrives mines fine on the motorway but town and country I have rattles like mad!
Mine rattled like crazy when driving on bumpy roads and also under full throttle. The noise came from the isofix Anker point covers on the rear window shelf. Put a little bit if foam in there 😅 now completely gone no rattles or creaks.
@@mrfox8909 thanks. Good advice!