When I paid my enrollment fee to Mizzou in fall 2010, I never dreamed I would see the football team win two SEC East titles as a student. Realignment can create outcomes you would never expect.
The B1G commissioner is too dumb to figure out how to get OU and UT to join the conference. This is the same guy who canceled the season last year until everybody else decided to play then he jumps on board.
@@lindencamelback2305 no you’re wrong. The college presidents vote, not the AD. Academic standing matters, to the Big10 Every member is an AAU school accept Nebraska and the cornhuskers are building a hospital in Lincoln so they can rejoin the AAU. UT is an AAU member school OU is not. the Big10 prides itself on only accepting AAU member schools.
Bunch of people seem to forget how Texas has the big 12 giving out 15 yard penalties for a player showing the horns down gesture because its “offensive”. Also it wasn’t just A&M, Mizzou and Arkansas left because they got tired of dealing with Texas as well.
They're a cancer and I don't see that changing. One of their clueless fans went on a "stop bashing Texas" rant talking about how great the University of Texas is and that they've earned it blah^3 but completely misses the point of why they're a problem. Yes, they're a great university, great history, and a valuable brand; but how much they think they can leverage that against everyone else is the malignancy, not the good things about UT.
Ya warren might announce the big 10 isn't gonna play football this year as they see how this conference realignment unfolds to do what's best for the Big 10 😂🤣😂
The big 12 was Texas creation they built it and then destroyed it. How could anyone blame Colorado Nebraska Mizzou and Texas am now. The rats were jumping off the sinking ship.
@@tamuman93 The SEC isn't going to bow down to what Texas wants like the B12 always did. Things are going to change for them, and they're not going to like it.
OU and Clemson would be far better. Texas is a cancer. Austin is a cesspool of morons. The state of Texas is a great fit for the SEC, but Austin is not. The real solution is to move Mizzou to the West, add OU and OKSt to the West, then add Clemson, FSU, MIami, GaTech to the East.
I live in your backyard...........the students (actually enrolled at ACC) and the fans (non-college peeps who buy shirts at Academy) are not my favorite crowd. No aTm indicators on my vehicle. Cheers bayou bro.
Welcome Texas & Oklahoma to the SEC. I believe they’ll join in 2023 unless booster pickup the tab. Once they join it will be like watching a CFP game every weekend.
Did you not see this coming The Power Conferences were in the works for years OU texass to the SEC I didn't see I thought to the PAC 12 Get ready to pay for football
@@ballsthatclank as an ou fan this is the ONLY way I will chant SEC. I'm suggesting that if it's required that we cheer for SEC that we chant "we like money" instead. Hehe. My friend said she's chanting OKC instead
The 12 team playoff and the upcoming television package makes this thing make way too much sense. The payouts could easily become 60-80 million per year, per team. You get that and still a possible 5-6 teams in a 12 team playoff.
I think the payouts are going to be underwhelming, potentially worse. The CFP semi-finals are blowouts. We never have more than four teams that are legit title contenders. Most years we don't have more than three. The first two rounds are going to be BORING. I don't think people will watch. People think fans have no limit to the amount they will watch, but there is definitely a limit.
@@jetmech9287 If there is a 12 team playoff...then there will be 12 teams. It's only 6 games. It really doesn't matter and the other sports have gone through this with 64 teams and it was very successful. The fact that they are condensing the teams that are the most relevant and have the largest following in the SEC may effect the other conferences...but the SEC will be king. You pay more for the best and the separation gets larger in the financial end. The 5-6 teams in the SEC will be watched...make no mistake.
@@darylgardner509 Eight teams makes more sense. The goal is to find the best two to play for the NC. They will be in the top eight. With four teams the #5 and maybe #6 ranked teams have an argument. A&M had a decent argument to get in over ohio st. In an eight team playoff the #9 & #10 schools have much less of an argument. Will there be upsets? Yep, it's college football. Maybe this has been addressed but would the SEC consider a realignment? As in, would teams move to the SEC East who are now in the West? Or would say Tx go to the West and the Sooners go to the East etc....??? During the last realignment TX and OK were looking at moving to the (then) Pac 10. If TX and OK move to the SEC that leaves the "Big 12" with 8 teams which essentially guts that conference. Then you just know the other conferences are going to want to add teams as well. Iowa St and West Virginia to the Big 10? Texas Tech and KS St to the Pac 12? I can see this setting off a chain reaction throughout college football.
And once EA comes out with a College football game they are gonna get even more cash. Cause they will license team and names stadiums. Can you say more bank??
@@tidefanyankee2428 This is about money....not finding the best teams. The more "playoff games"...the more money. That will be the driving force behind this. The bowl games are already suffering so moving those bowls into the playoff system is a win/win. Those cities and bowls will welcome this whole hearted.
"If I'm Kevin Warren, and clearly I'm not." That gave me my first good laugh of the morning. Yeah, because you're not a clueless bureaucrat and you recognize the threat level this represents. Especially if the SEC becomes the 3rd Subdivision of NCAA D1 or just sidesteps the NCAA entirely. Warren probably doesn't ever recognize what a threat this is to not just his job but to the position of B1G Commissioner as he knows it. He's the very definition of tone-deaf (figurative political def.)
the SEC short video perfectly encapsulates the Texas ego story to me. i don't think them coming in is good long-term, but it is the start of the super conference era, and between this and play-off expansion the sport will look very different in 5 years when the dust has somewhat settled.
@@machtschnell7452 Don't see UT as a long term move. Mutually beneficial for a couple of years. SEC gets their big money and UT gets to finally feel some real football culture that will make them better and improve
SEC West. SEC East *Texas. *Alabama *Texas AM. *Auburn *LSU. *UGA *Arkansas. *Kentucky *Ole Piss. *Vanderbilt *Miss State. *South Carolina *Oklahoma. *Florida *Mizzou. *Tennessee **Alternately, you could keep Bama in the West; And take LSU, and Auburn to the East.
Brother, A&M left the Big XII to get away from the self entitled, tierra wearing, prima donnas at texas. F them - And I mean that sincerely. Truly, that sentiment comes from the bottom of my heart. ❤️ Most Aggies want nothing to do with renewing that rivalry. Texas is now a 2nd rate program. They are has beens riding on the coat tails of historical greatness. Playing them only elevates them to a status in the state of Texas that they haven’t earned. I believe most Aggies would say “Damn Geography”. We want Alabama and would rather play them than play those 2nd rate ba5tards year in and year out. Alternatively to my suggestion, we could conversely let texas be the Tide’s whipping boys and play in their division every single year. A&M could then earn their way to an SEC playoff spot to play Bama for a natty if possible. Most Ags have no problem with OU. But screw texas. With a 56% record in the Big XII, They do not deserve, nor have earned any form of respect in the SEC.
PS. Geography alone makes the East a cake walk and would perpetually secure an easy spot for Bama to continue their dynasty forever. Perhaps dividing it up along current/ foreseeable future talent lines and oils make it more equitable.
I don't believe Texas and Oklahoma are going to have that big of an effect on the hierarchy of the SEC. Oklahoma will fight A&M for the 3rd spot overall, but Texas is in the middle of the pack at best.
If Bama, LSU, Georgia and others start losing their recruiting edge in the state of Texas and The University of Texas starts retaining some of our best in state talent again...We will be elite once more. That can happen immediately within the next 2 - 3 years. A&M knows this, that's why they're freaking TF out. They've been in a conference with Texas where we've been able to pluck the best in state talent every year before they even knock on the door. These schools will be losing their one recruiting advantage. There's no reason why guys like Jaylen Waddle, Jalen Hurts, Garrett Wilson, J.K Dobbins, Baron Browning, Quinn Ewers etc should be leaving the state of Texas (or Austin area) and going to play somewhere else.
Perhaps you're correct. I believe there's actually a possibility that Oklahoma takes a bit of a fall the first couple of years. Nothing major but a couple more losses than they're used to. However, they'll probably benefit greatly after those first couple of years if they do struggle just a bit.
Oklahoma will not fall they will rise even more. They will in the conference championship Alabama every year. Saban can't coach forever. We got the best young coach in the game. Recruiting is already exploding In Oklahoma without being in the conference already. So SEC will help even more for Oklahoma.
i think fear would be a factor, to let TA&M & Missouri is 1 thing, OU & TU have a lot more pull with recruits than the other 2, would the lesser teams in the sec want to have to compete with these 2 in recruiting! i don't think so, just my thoughts
No one in the SEC is scared of either program. The SEC is going into their backyard and taking all the best recruits. That's why Texas and OU have to make this desperation move now, four years before they can exit the Big 12. Either they get in the SEC or resign themselves to being second-tier to A&M and LSU in Texas.
Iowa St probably and I would suggest West Virginia instead of Kansas. Kansas is to the Big 12 and would be to the big 10 what Vandy is to the SEC. Kansas is where coaching careers go to die.
@@tidefanyankee2428 They'd have to get over this whole AAU membership thing to take WVU, though football-wise games vs. Penn State and tOSU would rock. There are AAU schools in the ACC that might talk, but we're talking UNC, UVA, GTech...not really football heavyweights in the 21st Century.
It's happening. No other scenario mentioned here makes any sense, especially with recruiting being such a big factor. Good riddance. The Big 12 has been limping along for a decade now. Let it die.
I really like your idea of Texas snd OU B10. It honestly would make it more competitive balance etc. If they could come up with the cash I could see the flip happening and I think it would be good for cfb
@@machtschnell7452 agree. In the end I think this is looking like a colossal mistake for the long term popularity and economic health of cfb. Looks like a Short term money grab for all parties involved with little foresight applied.
It is interesting when the bad for CFB argument is brought up. I get the thought process, but are TX/OU supposed to take one for CFB and stay in a less than ideal situation for that reason?! They stuck in the Big 12 when the last realignment happened. They tried to make the Big 12 work, and it has been marginal at best. At some point they have to do what is best fit them. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
What's so bad about it? It's a power 5 and if either win out they will be in the cfp, Oklahoma has done it with a loss. They both make lots of money. I mean sure the big 12 isn't the sec, but neither is any other conference, why doesn't every team just leave their conference? Why did they agree to be in until 2024 and should they be able to just leave? I figure it's happening and don't mind it, but stuff has implications and these new college developments might not be all the instant gratification generation expect them to be.
@@stevena55 with the uncertainty of tv deals, cfp expansion, and realignment; it is riskier to stay and try to lift the BIG12 on there own instead of being in the catbird seat and making the best move for themselves. They obviously don’t have faith in the BIG12 long term. They in fact didn’t agree to stay until they are he contracted is done. They said they would honor the contract, that also means buying it out. With the SEC money that isn’t a huge hit for them. Texas would be fine buying it out on their own now. If you think trying to make the BIG12 work for the last 10 years is instant gratification……..wow! At some point you have to do what is best for the individual university over everyone else. You are telling me that if Tech, OSU, or Baylor we asked to join the sec they wouldn’t?! Come on!
@@factsunbiased5157 texas helped destroy scratch that texas did destroy the big 12, it blew up in their face now they have to abandon ship. i dont think anyones arguing the mess the big 12 is, its how texas caused it, and it blew up in their face.
Ive heard that when this move happens, that auburn and bama will move to the east which scares me..dont want my gators to have to play bama EVERY SINGLE YEAR
@RJ Least of These Farm seems a simple east west would be easier, with definite winners to advance. Play your 7, then rotate 4 from other division each year. Boom.
Not sure it’s Texas and Oklahoma’s job to protect cfb, it’s their job to make money and set themselves up to win. If they feel it’s in the SEC then they should leave? I usually agree with you, but I don’t like the argument that they should stay Bc it’s better for college cfb.
As a lifelong UT fan I just love how much this bothers A&M 😂 only reason I hope this goes through is so we can play A&M again. Of course every team in the sec can and will demolish us I just miss that rivalry
@@sorethumbs379 oh we are ready, its been a long time coming. its all about the fact a&m could have been left in the dark. we are very excited for the wake up call, and the fact they have to have us for relevancy.
delusional. texas had their own network in the big 12 and will rack up so much more money staying. Their record will plunge considering they can’t win in the big 12. It might be a good move for OU but even so OU have an easier route to the cfp if they stay.
@@lukeedwards6740 UT needs OU to stay. If UT tried to carry the Big12 by itself, the Big12 may not make it. UT's only other choice is to pull Notre Dame......and that I think they could do. As for OU having an easier path to the cfp by staying just making it to the cfp, you'll still have to master the SEC teams. So that's a moot point. Rrecruiting moves to the forefront . OU is now losing recruits to the SEC.....now that they have joined the SEC, I think you'll see a vast improvement in recruiting for both OU & UT.
This is how I always imagined it PAC-12/SEC -Texas -Oklahoma - OK ST ACC - WV Big 10 - Kansas - K State - Iowa St Then the rest of the big 12 would combine with MWC. Although I have some MWC teams joining PAC 12.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Can Oklahoma win 10 games every year in the SEC like they did in the Big 12? Or, will playing against those SEC caliber defenses every week take it's toll on them? Will Texas finally breakthrough and separate themselves from the middle of the pack? Or, do they end up burying themselves even deeper?
Both will improve but a conference champion may have a loss or two more consistently. When CFP goes to 12 teams, SEC should have 4-6 consistently . That is what matters ultimately, more revenue.
As an Alabama fan nobody I know wants Texas or OU to join the SEC. Almost everyone sees it as not only a deterioration of College football as a whole but also as the centralization of a single conference.
Also, Kevin Warren isn't allowed to approach teams, that is what is different about this. OU and UT reached out to the SEC. If Kevin Warren were to reach out to OU and UT, that would be considered "tampering"
I would love to see the Southwest Conference come back with the 10 teams in the Big 12 with 2 - 4 more teams... both teams from AZ, SMU and maybe New Mexico
I don't think Texas expects special treatment. That feels really overblown at this point. They'd be joining programs that carry their weight in revenue. It was never about play on the field it's how can you keep up with teams from other conferences when your TV revenue is significantly less than other conferences.
But thats all people want to talk about. Like they havent been talking for 6 months already. Pretty sure sec made it clear on multiple occasions already that they are equal at the round table. No head of the table. But if people accept that that means Texas isnt as much of diva as the media want them to be. Then there isnt a talking point to beat to death repeatedly
they will be joining a conference where they will just be a middle of the pack team. they will be guaranteed 4 losses in conference play and will have to get used to being a second rate program just like that other u. t. in Knoxville
@@richardbishop8666 maybe to start. But ask yourself what this does for Texas recruiting. So yeah to start they will take some Ls but players learn the system and recruits go there and 4 losses become 2 maybe 1 and they compete. Not undefeated and steamrolling but competing. 2 phrases i learned in the Marines fit this perfectly. 1) Competition brewers excellence. 2) Steel sharpens Steel
The fact that the Longhorn Network exists proves the diva narrative valid. Now UT wants to share and share a like with SEC Network revenue proves how much hubris was involved in the creation of LOLHorns Network. They could have done this with a Big 12 Network and kept the conference like it was pre 2013.
@@TheCyberAthlete (1) All the big revenue schools voted the Big 12 Network down (because they could not stomach an equal share w the small schools), Texas was just the only one to do anything on their own afterwards. (2) Yes enormous hubris in LHN, and it was HIGHLY lucrative for Texas but not ESPN, who want out asap. Now that it has proven unsustainable Texas are moving on. That's what professionals do.
The Big 10 is a semi good idea, but I think you forgot that it snows in the Big 10 BIG TIME!! I don’t know that Texas and Oklahoma players want to play in the ice and snow for half the season. I’m sure that the Texas and Oklahoma weather is a part of their recruitment strategy against conferences like the Big 10 and ACC.
College football will come down to SEC, Ohio State and Clemson. Maybe USC or Notre Dame gets in on the action. But for the 100 other teams in college football, its game over.
Notre Dame hasn’t been relevant in a generation and that’s not going to change. OU coming in is not a problem, the rest of the college football is just now catch-up to paying their players like OU. t.u. is a whole other hot mess. Everything t.u. touches turns to 💩. Every conference they have been a part of has been wrecked by them……SWC, Big 12 & Big 12-2.
As a Texas graduated and fan, I'm surprise of the move. However, this make sense for both schools as paying players going to be new big expense. It make more sense now with hiring the head coach. Someone and coaches that were in the SEC whom had success on field and recruiting. Even though texas lowest recruiting in the 4 years was a class ranked 15 the rest 2 top 5 and top 10. I think watching other schools other than ATM take top prospects to different conferences had a hand in their decision. Even though I love picking on my aggie wife, I told her this good thing as kids will most likely still local with more options....as it was a bad sign between both schools and ou for #1 qb with a 100% rating going to Ohio St. Who knows how this will flip kids and start a new cold war with Aggies. Plus Thanksgiving game will go back to making sense.
I can all but promise you fans in the B10 would welcome OU& Texas with open arms. HOWEVER, We have the Warren factor. At this point a counter move is critical to prevent mate. Instead of a brilliant well thought out move. I anticipate apathy. Warren in the Big10 is playing checkers. The SEC is playing chess....Mate in 5 Warren may be the best example of the Dunning- Kruger effect ever played out in public.
Will it be too many teams in the SEC and eventually lead to a split in 5-10 years? I don't see my Vols winning the SEC anytime soon with 16 teams vying for the championship.
Well run it like the NFL then. All Div 1 schools bargain collectively with the networks & divide it equally amongst them. Otherwise, do not expect Oklahoma & Texas to not better their situation & stay in a conference where they will be at a financial & recruiting disadvantage in the future,.. just to keep the status quo.
Texas can go have a seat next to South Carolina. Ouch! Why did you have to pick us? I'm a Gamecock and that made me laugh. Then later on you said Texas can have a seat next to Vandy. That's more like it. We've beaten the Commodores ten times straight. Still, I'd love to see Texas and OU in the conference. Competition is what its all about. Go Gamecocks!
The real truth about all of this shake up of college sports (not just football) but where can I get the most $$? Not the athletes, not the schools, not the tax payers - maybe they don't need tax payers anymore but they need fans. Half of a crowd could play into things.
The Big Ten needs to start sniping schools now, Im talking more USC and Oregon then Iowa St and Kansas. Kansas brings their basketball chops to the Big ten which would be amazing but doesn't help the football side. The Big ten also needs to relax their requirements to join the conference if they are trying to stay relevant. Remove AAU membership as a prerequisite cause word is they were going after Texas but weren't interested in the Sooners due to them not being an AAU member. I have zero faith Kevin Warren navigates any of this properly and the Big ten will suffer due to his poor leadership.
@@machtschnell7452 Right? There are no good options left for the B1G if they stand pat on the AAU requirement. You've got a bunch of PAC-12 programs and some ACC programs like GTech, UVA, and UNC. None of these really help for football, even if you could dislodged them. They could maybe revive the B1G-PAC12 alliance that fell apart late last decade (the 9/11/2021 Oregon-Ohio State matchup is a leftover of this, OSU originally had Georgia on the schedule). But, I still don't think it helps muc. At this point, I'm not worried about what the B1G does, my concern is how long Ohio State clings to the corpse.
I live in GA and am from Alabama. There is at least just as many people for it as are against it. You as a talking head that would obviously be against this, cannot create accurate polls on issues when you have already made your position obvious.
The B1G is less capable of buying out their contracts than the SEC is. There is nothing another conference has to offer that the SEC cant counter if they want to. I dont really see how you think thats the answer. OU and Texas could just go to the SEC and say the B1G os willing to buy out our contracts
Karl. So you are suggesting any of the current SEC schools don’t want more money? That just doesn’t make sense. Will OU and UT benefit from this. Of course they will. That would be like you telling your boss you don’t want a raise because other people at your job make more than you do
sec will grow with them but they will reduce their conference games fro 6 down to 3 cuz they said ‘it was hard before, now its harder, so 3 conference games is appropriate’. The rest of games will be against McDonalds University and Fashion Institute University more!!
Looking at the graphics showing OU's losses to the SEC is slanted....I believe, over all, OU has a winning record against the SEC teams.....besides, trying to forecast via looking at the past, is like trying to drive forward looking in your rear-view mirror.
I don’t think EITHER OU OR TEXAS wanted to go to SEC !!! I suspect they both felt like they couldn’t recruit with the Piss Poor support they got From Bob Bowlsby related to TV contracts with all games at 11 AM. Plus NIL !!!! The extra money will be nice and better games is a plus But with 12 team play offs on the horizon, competition matters less !!!
The Big12 screwed up back when they even let Texas into the conference. The destruction of Nebraska's football dominance by removing that risk option for lower academic players that Nebraska used often to even get talent, ruined the Big12. The fact is, the Big12 is a POS conference now, all because of their past decisions to hurt Nebraska and please Texas. They get what they deserve.
So A&M would be an ass to abstain Josh? And then you follow that up with “I’d like to see it get derailed”? Makes sense… Anyone that’s ever done business with tu knows exactly why you don’t do it again. OU being the only one that continues to tag along. Granted, I get why to an extent but they would’ve been better off going with A&M back in the day. You know that’s true. F texass
Both you and your buddies in Austin are pathetic. You’re both delusional about your accomplishments in college football. Enjoy your perennial 8-4 seasons to come
Nebraska left for the B1G cause they wanted to be seen as having legitimate opponents. Look where they are now, they'd be middle of the Big XII. I hope the same thing happens to OU and Texas. OU can back up their entitled attitude, but Texas is hanging on to glory that has passed them by.
Big12 and Big10 merge together to create THE super conference. Iowa and Iowa state rivalry, Nebraska and OU rivalry, OU /Texas rivalry stays intact and access to the bigger TV markets that the Big Ten enjoys, NY, NJ, Chicago, Ohio and Michigan, the DC beltway with Maryland. This is one point that needs to be made, when was the last time Alabama played a team as far north as OU at their stadium? In fact no SEC teams play any northern teams at their stadium after oct first. Why? Southern teams do not fare well in the cold. Even the pros when a warm weather team goes north in winter weather do not fare well. These SEC teams are loaded with kids that have never played in a game below freezing and it does matter the evidence is there. When it's snowing sideways and freezing in Norman on a Saturday night prime time game those Florida born players who have not practiced in that weather are going to let that get in their head and effect how they play. Why have indoor teams not won in playoffs in NFL without home field advantage?
That's why I think it's funny about the rumors that ohio st and Michigan are being contacted by the sec. If that does happen, the sec will schedule the big conference games that matter(Alabama, Georgia, Florida, lsu) at mich or ohio st in the first few weeks when it's warm. Then crap teams like Vandy and Kentucky will play at ohio/mich the last few weeks of the season. Can't have their bread and butter freezing now lol
If the B1G is going to "merge" with anybody it will be the Pac 12. We have a historical connection with them. This could setup a pair of super conferences with the North and West VS the South and East. The B1G isn't interested in anybody who can't bring notre shame as a date. If you manage to bring them along welcome to the conference otherwise so sad, too bad.
SEC is not Alabama- Alabama is not SEC., it consists of 13 other teams as well and those teams are scared of losing recruiting edge as well as games to OU and and some of them to Texas so don't tell me they are not scared. A&M is a perfect example for ya! Tennessee thinks they won't be THE "UT" anymore. Georgia is going to lose big time on recruiting. Vandy is going to add 2 more losses to its season and the list goes on.....
No one is scared of UT. They are a 6th-place program in the Big 12, losing consistently to Iowa State and K-State. In the SEC, they're Kentucky with a bigger stadium.
@@mikeholley5662 Never said UT is going to beat many good teams on the field. They however will beat them in recruiting, fan base and anything related to money. Also, with UT joining bottom half of the SEC will be adding another L to their win loss column.
@@paramtripathi854 That's all UT has left, winning the revenue standings. Maybe they can use some of that cash to buy themselves some dignity after they gave all theirs away crawling to the SEC like they just got evicted from their studio apartment.
The ONLY reason I'm sort of in favor of this move, is that it is one of the first few in a series of moves (along with NIL) that will decentralize/destroy the NCAA and lead us to a path of a new college football league, centered around the SEC as a nucleus, taking all that stupid, foot dragging slow-acting penalty system away with it.
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When I paid my enrollment fee to Mizzou in fall 2010, I never dreamed I would see the football team win two SEC East titles as a student. Realignment can create outcomes you would never expect.
Not with those two because the conference is a lot better now. Mizzou being one of them
Yes, that really impressed Texas in that 2017 Bowl game. Really scared Texas, they did. Honest. 😁
@@machtschnell7452 Not everything is about you.
@@terrybrunk9190 OU is gonna whoop Mizzou’s ass again. Nothing changed there
Mizzou never winning the sec tho
The B1G commissioner is too dumb to figure out how to get OU and UT to join the conference. This is the same guy who canceled the season last year until everybody else decided to play then he jumps on board.
Well so much for being relevant kinda like Nebraska in the BIG 10.
Good- No one in the B1G wants Texas anyway. OU is a different story.
@@lindencamelback2305 Actually it’s Oklahoma they will not take because they have Academic standards. Texas easily meets them. Oklahoma is not AAU.
@@lindencamelback2305 no you’re wrong. The college presidents vote, not the AD. Academic standing matters, to the Big10 Every member is an AAU school accept Nebraska and the cornhuskers are building a hospital in Lincoln so they can rejoin the AAU. UT is an AAU member school OU is not. the Big10 prides itself on only accepting AAU member schools.
@@sixplicit2977 Good point, I forgot about the AAU requirement, and surprised Oklahoma is not an AAU school. Still pass on Texas.
Bunch of people seem to forget how Texas has the big 12 giving out 15 yard penalties for a player showing the horns down gesture because its “offensive”.
Also it wasn’t just A&M, Mizzou and Arkansas left because they got tired of dealing with Texas as well.
They're a cancer and I don't see that changing. One of their clueless fans went on a "stop bashing Texas" rant talking about how great the University of Texas is and that they've earned it blah^3 but completely misses the point of why they're a problem. Yes, they're a great university, great history, and a valuable brand; but how much they think they can leverage that against everyone else is the malignancy, not the good things about UT.
The only flaw in your analysis is positing Kevin Warren is capable of thinking proactively, logically, or any combination of the 2 lol
sadly i think you're right based on how he handled the covid season
Ya warren might announce the big 10 isn't gonna play football this year as they see how this conference realignment unfolds to do what's best for the Big 10 😂🤣😂
The big 12 had the time to fix everything
How could they? Texas was right in the middle of it all. They’ve destroyed 3 conferences already and are heading for a 4th.
Facts
The big 12 was Texas creation they built it and then destroyed it. How could anyone blame Colorado Nebraska Mizzou and Texas am now. The rats were jumping off the sinking ship.
@@tamuman93 The SEC isn't going to bow down to what Texas wants like the B12 always did. Things are going to change for them, and they're not going to like it.
@@tamuman93 But I do agree, there was no fixing the B12 after NU, CU, MU and aTm left.
I'd rather have OU and CLEM, but there is no way CLEM is leaving their powder puff conference and free pass to the playoff every year:)
Texas brings much more money and football legacy than Son of Clem.
@@machtschnell7452 Texas has a football legacy? 1 natty in the last 50 years and the last decade has been laughable. Get real
But Texas has Matthew McConaughey
@@mikehaynes1769 The people making these decisions look most at money, not recent football success
OU and Clemson would be far better. Texas is a cancer. Austin is a cesspool of morons. The state of Texas is a great fit for the SEC, but Austin is not. The real solution is to move Mizzou to the West, add OU and OKSt to the West, then add Clemson, FSU, MIami, GaTech to the East.
SEC presidents are having a conference meeting this morning. The vote to invite will be done by end of the week.
As an LSU fan living in Austin, I’m excited about being able to see real college football in my backyard.
I live in your backyard...........the students (actually enrolled at ACC) and the fans (non-college peeps who buy shirts at Academy) are not my favorite crowd. No aTm indicators on my vehicle. Cheers bayou bro.
Were it not for covid you woulda got to see a your team get demolished in your backyard
@@unbothered4563 why, was Iowa St on the schedule?
@@mikehaynes1769 Iowa state would’ve beat tf out of y’all last season. Very arrogant for a .500 team. 🤣🤣💀
The past 10-15 years SEC has been college football.
I think it’s more like 20 or 25
As an A&M student and fan I would love for UT and OU to join the SEC. I would love to see those match ups again!
Kevin Warren is the worst possible commissioner for a time like this. The Big Ten is currently a rudderless ship. This coming from a Buckeyes fan.
He’s politically motivated. He only cares about leftist optics, not football. That’s why he wanted the season canceled last year.
@@moobutt you are 100% right.
Same with Bowlsby and B12. Driving while asleep at the wheel.
I'm sorry, I'm for it, big 12 doesn't benefit ou
Welcome Texas & Oklahoma to the SEC. I believe they’ll join in 2023 unless booster pickup the tab. Once they join it will be like watching a CFP game every weekend.
If they get approved by the SEC there be in by next year, because the boosters will pay their fee of addmission
Amen. Powerhouse matchups everywhere with big time offense all CFB fans will want to see. TV revenue through the roof.
@@BlackMountainCycles Won a few National Championships, though.
Better check each's record against SEC teams. 😎
@@machtschnell7452 that was a long time ago old man the OU you grew up watching ain’t the same as it is today.
Nope. The GoR is iron-clad. 2025 is the earliest they can have games broadcast on SEC airwaves.
Did you not see this coming
The Power Conferences were in the works for years
OU texass to the SEC I didn't see
I thought to the PAC 12
Get ready to pay for football
Can you imagine Texas and/or Oklahoma yelling SEC in a game against a non-sec team?
No, it will never happen. Confident teams with legacies
OU will chant SEC after beating SEC teams.
No
@@ballsthatclank Texas did this at the Mizzou and GA bowl games. It was satisfying.
@@ballsthatclank as an ou fan this is the ONLY way I will chant SEC. I'm suggesting that if it's required that we cheer for SEC that we chant "we like money" instead. Hehe. My friend said she's chanting OKC instead
Josh just basically confirmed he's an AEW fan. Lol
The 12 team playoff and the upcoming television package makes this thing make way too much sense. The payouts could easily become 60-80 million per year, per team. You get that and still a possible 5-6 teams in a 12 team playoff.
I think the payouts are going to be underwhelming, potentially worse. The CFP semi-finals are blowouts. We never have more than four teams that are legit title contenders. Most years we don't have more than three. The first two rounds are going to be BORING. I don't think people will watch. People think fans have no limit to the amount they will watch, but there is definitely a limit.
@@jetmech9287 If there is a 12 team playoff...then there will be 12 teams. It's only 6 games. It really doesn't matter and the other sports have gone through this with 64 teams and it was very successful. The fact that they are condensing the teams that are the most relevant and have the largest following in the SEC may effect the other conferences...but the SEC will be king. You pay more for the best and the separation gets larger in the financial end. The 5-6 teams in the SEC will be watched...make no mistake.
@@darylgardner509 Eight teams makes more sense. The goal is to find the best two to play for the NC. They will be in the top eight. With four teams the #5 and maybe #6 ranked teams have an argument. A&M had a decent argument to get in over ohio st. In an eight team playoff the #9 & #10 schools have much less of an argument. Will there be upsets? Yep, it's college football.
Maybe this has been addressed but would the SEC consider a realignment? As in, would teams move to the SEC East who are now in the West? Or would say Tx go to the West and the Sooners go to the East etc....???
During the last realignment TX and OK were looking at moving to the (then) Pac 10. If TX and OK move to the SEC that leaves the "Big 12" with 8 teams which essentially guts that conference. Then you just know the other conferences are going to want to add teams as well. Iowa St and West Virginia to the Big 10? Texas Tech and KS St to the Pac 12? I can see this setting off a chain reaction throughout college football.
And once EA comes out with a College football game they are gonna get even more cash. Cause they will license team and names stadiums. Can you say more bank??
@@tidefanyankee2428 This is about money....not finding the best teams. The more "playoff games"...the more money. That will be the driving force behind this. The bowl games are already suffering so moving those bowls into the playoff system is a win/win. Those cities and bowls will welcome this whole hearted.
Big 12 leadership (or lack there of) caused this when CU, Nebraska, Mizzou and Aggie left years ago.
And left the conference as is
Get it done future rivals Sooners and Razorbacks
That will end up like the Sooners vs Cowboys… It has begun😀
"If I'm Kevin Warren, and clearly I'm not."
That gave me my first good laugh of the morning. Yeah, because you're not a clueless bureaucrat and you recognize the threat level this represents. Especially if the SEC becomes the 3rd Subdivision of NCAA D1 or just sidesteps the NCAA entirely. Warren probably doesn't ever recognize what a threat this is to not just his job but to the position of B1G Commissioner as he knows it. He's the very definition of tone-deaf (figurative political def.)
the SEC short video perfectly encapsulates the Texas ego story to me. i don't think them coming in is good long-term, but it is the start of the super conference era, and between this and play-off expansion the sport will look very different in 5 years when the dust has somewhat settled.
Do not believe all that aTm paranoia projection. Texas will support the SEC consensus, not like aTm.
@@machtschnell7452 Don't see UT as a long term move. Mutually beneficial for a couple of years. SEC gets their big money and UT gets to finally feel some real football culture that will make them better and improve
SEC West. SEC East
*Texas. *Alabama
*Texas AM. *Auburn
*LSU. *UGA
*Arkansas. *Kentucky
*Ole Piss. *Vanderbilt
*Miss State. *South Carolina
*Oklahoma. *Florida
*Mizzou. *Tennessee
**Alternately, you could keep Bama in the West; And take LSU, and Auburn to the East.
Brother, A&M left the Big XII to get away from the self entitled, tierra wearing, prima donnas at texas. F them - And I mean that sincerely. Truly, that sentiment comes from the bottom of my heart. ❤️
Most Aggies want nothing to do with renewing that rivalry. Texas is now a 2nd rate program. They are has beens riding on the coat tails of historical greatness. Playing them only elevates them to a status in the state of Texas that they haven’t earned.
I believe most Aggies would say “Damn Geography”. We want Alabama and would rather play them than play those 2nd rate ba5tards year in and year out.
Alternatively to my suggestion, we could conversely let texas be the Tide’s whipping boys and play in their division every single year. A&M could then earn their way to an SEC playoff spot to play Bama for a natty if possible.
Most Ags have no problem with OU. But screw texas. With a 56% record in the Big XII, They do not deserve, nor have earned any form of respect in the SEC.
PS. Geography alone makes the East a cake walk and would perpetually secure an easy spot for Bama to continue their dynasty forever. Perhaps dividing it up along current/ foreseeable future talent lines and oils make it more equitable.
Let em in and make the playoff 6 SEC teams + 6 others...
RTR!
I don't believe Texas and Oklahoma are going to have that big of an effect on the hierarchy of the SEC. Oklahoma will fight A&M for the 3rd spot overall, but Texas is in the middle of the pack at best.
Short term I agree with you. Longer term both will rise and fall just like most of the other conference schools.
If Bama, LSU, Georgia and others start losing their recruiting edge in the state of Texas and The University of Texas starts retaining some of our best in state talent again...We will be elite once more. That can happen immediately within the next 2 - 3 years. A&M knows this, that's why they're freaking TF out.
They've been in a conference with Texas where we've been able to pluck the best in state talent every year before they even knock on the door. These schools will be losing their one recruiting advantage.
There's no reason why guys like Jaylen Waddle, Jalen Hurts, Garrett Wilson, J.K Dobbins, Baron Browning, Quinn Ewers etc should be leaving the state of Texas (or Austin area) and going to play somewhere else.
Perhaps you're correct. I believe there's actually a possibility that Oklahoma takes a bit of a fall the first couple of years. Nothing major but a couple more losses than they're used to. However, they'll probably benefit greatly after those first couple of years if they do struggle just a bit.
Oklahoma will not fall they will rise even more. They will in the conference championship Alabama every year. Saban can't coach forever. We got the best young coach in the game. Recruiting is already exploding In Oklahoma without being in the conference already. So SEC will help even more for Oklahoma.
@@jshooper7819 it’s sounds good gotta see it to believe it
i think fear would be a factor, to let TA&M & Missouri is 1 thing, OU & TU have a lot more pull with recruits than the other 2, would the lesser teams in the sec want to have to compete with these 2 in recruiting! i don't think so, just my thoughts
No one in the SEC is scared of either program. The SEC is going into their backyard and taking all the best recruits. That's why Texas and OU have to make this desperation move now, four years before they can exit the Big 12. Either they get in the SEC or resign themselves to being second-tier to A&M and LSU in Texas.
@@mikeholley5662 point well taken
If only the Longhorn Network were the Big 12 Network. Then maybe A&M, Colorado, Nebraska and Missouri would not have left the conference.
True, but A&M and Neb (and OU and Texas) voted it down.
What does the big ten do to counter? Iowa State and Kansas?
Iowa St probably and I would suggest West Virginia instead of Kansas. Kansas is to the Big 12 and would be to the big 10 what Vandy is to the SEC. Kansas is where coaching careers go to die.
@@tidefanyankee2428 They'd have to get over this whole AAU membership thing to take WVU, though football-wise games vs. Penn State and tOSU would rock.
There are AAU schools in the ACC that might talk, but we're talking UNC, UVA, GTech...not really football heavyweights in the 21st Century.
@@denisdooley1540 Mack Brown is building something at UNC so they could be viable
Bowlsby better get that resume freshened up.
Bob Bowlsby is a Bone Head !!
Finally, a non-biased review. Great video. Thx
This dude is the real deal
Good content Josh
Keep doing the good work, Josh.
Yes agreed. No offense to OU and Texas but most people in the SEC don’t want them to join.
I’m a Kentucky fan and I’m sick of these BIG12 teams jumping in. This is going to ruin college football as we know it.
Do share a link for the pole that shows they don’t want them to join. And no offense taken. See you on the football field. Bring your “A” game
It's happening. No other scenario mentioned here makes any sense, especially with recruiting being such a big factor. Good riddance. The Big 12 has been limping along for a decade now. Let it die.
I really like your idea of Texas snd OU B10. It honestly would make it more competitive balance etc. If they could come up with the cash I could see the flip happening and I think it would be good for cfb
It is necessary for B1G, but will not happen.
ACC wants in two and PAC12 would guarantee both playoff appearances for 10 years in PAC12 CCG.
@@machtschnell7452 agree. In the end I think this is looking like a colossal mistake for the long term popularity and economic health of cfb. Looks like a Short term money grab for all parties involved with little foresight applied.
If they move to the SEC let’s get rid of the East and West and do a round robin. No cross rivals. You play 8 SEC games per year
The average Big-12 finish for OU is 1. Not even a decimal. Lol!
Okie is the smartest kid on the short bus.
@@mikeholley5662 Whatever
It is interesting when the bad for CFB argument is brought up. I get the thought process, but are TX/OU supposed to take one for CFB and stay in a less than ideal situation for that reason?! They stuck in the Big 12 when the last realignment happened. They tried to make the Big 12 work, and it has been marginal at best. At some point they have to do what is best fit them. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
What's so bad about it? It's a power 5 and if either win out they will be in the cfp, Oklahoma has done it with a loss. They both make lots of money. I mean sure the big 12 isn't the sec, but neither is any other conference, why doesn't every team just leave their conference? Why did they agree to be in until 2024 and should they be able to just leave?
I figure it's happening and don't mind it, but stuff has implications and these new college developments might not be all the instant gratification generation expect them to be.
@@stevena55 with the uncertainty of tv deals, cfp expansion, and realignment; it is riskier to stay and try to lift the BIG12 on there own instead of being in the catbird seat and making the best move for themselves. They obviously don’t have faith in the BIG12 long term. They in fact didn’t agree to stay until they are he contracted is done. They said they would honor the contract, that also means buying it out. With the SEC money that isn’t a huge hit for them. Texas would be fine buying it out on their own now. If you think trying to make the BIG12 work for the last 10 years is instant gratification……..wow! At some point you have to do what is best for the individual university over everyone else. You are telling me that if Tech, OSU, or Baylor we asked to join the sec they wouldn’t?! Come on!
@@stevena55 additionally the rest of the big 12 schools will be fine. Either they pickup the AAC or they split amongst the Pac12, Big10, and acc.
@@factsunbiased5157 texas helped destroy scratch that texas did destroy the big 12, it blew up in their face now they have to abandon ship. i dont think anyones arguing the mess the big 12 is, its how texas caused it, and it blew up in their face.
@@Brandon-rl6uj lol, and how in fact did they destroy the big12?! 😂😂 By leaving? By staying the last 10 years? Please enlighten everyone?!?
Ive heard that when this move happens, that auburn and bama will move to the east which scares me..dont want my gators to have to play bama EVERY SINGLE YEAR
I believe that is the best solution. The West would have 4 of the 8 SWC and another BigXII bolter.
@RJ Least of These Farm seems a simple east west would be easier, with definite winners to advance. Play your 7, then rotate 4 from other division each year. Boom.
14 teams is enough. No to both Texas & OU.
Not sure it’s Texas and Oklahoma’s job to protect cfb, it’s their job to make money and set themselves up to win. If they feel it’s in the SEC then they should leave? I usually agree with you, but I don’t like the argument that they should stay Bc it’s better for college cfb.
Ive been screaming this allday. It might suck 4 the have nots but IT IS a business
TX walks into the SEC says “hey i’m TX.”And some guy named Bubba says “go pound sand, seats taken, cant sit here.”
Thanks Josh lol
As a lifelong UT fan I just love how much this bothers A&M 😂 only reason I hope this goes through is so we can play A&M again. Of course every team in the sec can and will demolish us I just miss that rivalry
Dude A&M is actually excited about it, I’m an Auburn fan but I have seen more trash talking from A&M about this than complaining
@@sorethumbs379 oh we are ready, its been a long time coming. its all about the fact a&m could have been left in the dark. we are very excited for the wake up call, and the fact they have to have us for relevancy.
If OU/UT are looking out for their best interests.....THEY WILL GO TO THE SEC!
delusional. texas had their own network in the big 12 and will rack up so much more money staying. Their record will plunge considering they can’t win in the big 12. It might be a good move for OU but even so OU have an easier route to the cfp if they stay.
@@lukeedwards6740 UT needs OU to stay. If UT tried to carry the Big12 by itself, the Big12 may not make it. UT's only other choice is to pull Notre Dame......and that I think they could do. As for OU having an easier path to the cfp by staying just making it to the cfp, you'll still have to master the SEC teams. So that's a moot point. Rrecruiting moves to the forefront . OU is now losing recruits to the SEC.....now that they have joined the SEC, I think you'll see a vast improvement in recruiting for both OU & UT.
This is how I always imagined it
PAC-12/SEC
-Texas
-Oklahoma
- OK ST
ACC
- WV
Big 10
- Kansas
- K State
- Iowa St
Then the rest of the big 12 would combine with MWC. Although I have some MWC teams joining PAC 12.
K State, lol.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Can Oklahoma win 10 games every year in the SEC like they did in the Big 12? Or, will playing against those SEC caliber defenses every week take it's toll on them?
Will Texas finally breakthrough and separate themselves from the middle of the pack? Or, do they end up burying themselves even deeper?
Both will improve but a conference champion may have a loss or two more consistently. When CFP goes to 12 teams, SEC should have 4-6 consistently . That is what matters ultimately, more revenue.
It seems like the SEC wants to take over college football!
As an Alabama fan nobody I know wants Texas or OU to join the SEC. Almost everyone sees it as not only a deterioration of College football as a whole but also as the centralization of a single conference.
Also, Kevin Warren isn't allowed to approach teams, that is what is different about this. OU and UT reached out to the SEC. If Kevin Warren were to reach out to OU and UT, that would be considered "tampering"
I would love to see the Southwest Conference come back with the 10 teams in the Big 12 with 2 - 4 more teams... both teams from AZ, SMU and maybe New Mexico
Like anyone is leaving the pac 12
Did you fall and hit your head?
SEC shorts hit the tail on the head.
I don't think Texas expects special treatment. That feels really overblown at this point. They'd be joining programs that carry their weight in revenue. It was never about play on the field it's how can you keep up with teams from other conferences when your TV revenue is significantly less than other conferences.
But thats all people want to talk about. Like they havent been talking for 6 months already. Pretty sure sec made it clear on multiple occasions already that they are equal at the round table. No head of the table. But if people accept that that means Texas isnt as much of diva as the media want them to be. Then there isnt a talking point to beat to death repeatedly
they will be joining a conference where they will just be a middle of the pack team. they will be guaranteed 4 losses in conference play and will have to get used to being a second rate program just like that other u. t. in Knoxville
@@richardbishop8666 maybe to start. But ask yourself what this does for Texas recruiting. So yeah to start they will take some Ls but players learn the system and recruits go there and 4 losses become 2 maybe 1 and they compete. Not undefeated and steamrolling but competing. 2 phrases i learned in the Marines fit this perfectly. 1) Competition brewers excellence. 2) Steel sharpens Steel
The fact that the Longhorn Network exists proves the diva narrative valid. Now UT wants to share and share a like with SEC Network revenue proves how much hubris was involved in the creation of LOLHorns Network. They could have done this with a Big 12 Network and kept the conference like it was pre 2013.
@@TheCyberAthlete (1) All the big revenue schools voted the Big 12 Network down (because they could not stomach an equal share w the small schools), Texas was just the only one to do anything on their own afterwards. (2) Yes enormous hubris in LHN, and it was HIGHLY lucrative for Texas but not ESPN, who want out asap. Now that it has proven unsustainable Texas are moving on. That's what professionals do.
I say bring’m on. Let’s divide into 4 divisions and a 2 game SEC championship
Great point Josh!!! Texas isn't walking into the SEC bringing their own footballs etc Texas as a member of the SEC you've just become a logo 👍
I would love to see it get detailed
My question is if this does happen does Alabama & Alburn go to the sec east? Being they are the two closest schools to the East..
I don’t think geography plays a part in it. I mean Missouri is in the east somehow, but Auburn is west
The Big 10 is a semi good idea, but I think you forgot that it snows in the Big 10 BIG TIME!! I don’t know that Texas and Oklahoma players want to play in the ice and snow for half the season. I’m sure that the Texas and Oklahoma weather is a part of their recruitment strategy against conferences like the Big 10 and ACC.
College football will come down to SEC, Ohio State and Clemson. Maybe USC or Notre Dame gets in on the action. But for the 100 other teams in college football, its game over.
Notre Dame hasn’t been relevant in a generation and that’s not going to change.
OU coming in is not a problem, the rest of the college football is just now catch-up to paying their players like OU. t.u. is a whole other hot mess. Everything t.u. touches turns to 💩. Every conference they have been a part of has been wrecked by them……SWC, Big 12 & Big 12-2.
Maybe if the SEC refuses to ban the “horns down” hand gestures on the field tu might hang in the Big 12.
CBS Sports just announced they OU & TEX just announced just that they intend to leave after media contracts are up in 2024-2025
As a Texas graduated and fan, I'm surprise of the move. However, this make sense for both schools as paying players going to be new big expense. It make more sense now with hiring the head coach. Someone and coaches that were in the SEC whom had success on field and recruiting. Even though texas lowest recruiting in the 4 years was a class ranked 15 the rest 2 top 5 and top 10. I think watching other schools other than ATM take top prospects to different conferences had a hand in their decision. Even though I love picking on my aggie wife, I told her this good thing as kids will most likely still local with more options....as it was a bad sign between both schools and ou for #1 qb with a 100% rating going to Ohio St. Who knows how this will flip kids and start a new cold war with Aggies. Plus Thanksgiving game will go back to making sense.
I think it would be a dumb idea for Texas since their a 7 win team at best in an alright conference when sec is the most difficult conference
I can all but promise you fans in the B10 would welcome OU& Texas with open arms.
HOWEVER, We have the Warren factor. At this point a counter move is critical to prevent mate. Instead of a brilliant well thought out move. I anticipate apathy.
Warren in the Big10 is playing checkers. The SEC is playing chess....Mate in 5
Warren may be the best example of the Dunning- Kruger effect ever played out in public.
I agree I do not want to see OU or TEXAS in the SEC I do not like either one of them
Will it be too many teams in the SEC and eventually lead to a split in 5-10 years? I don't see my Vols winning the SEC anytime soon with 16 teams vying for the championship.
The real question for SEC fans is do they see their team in the CFP? That is what brings in the big bucks and floats all boats.
The SEC has no need for t-sips
Ohio state and Michigan now talking about coming to sec. We won't need any more play offs ..it will just be sec Winner vs everyone else .
No they aren’t
Well run it like the NFL then. All Div 1 schools bargain collectively with the networks & divide it equally amongst them. Otherwise, do not expect Oklahoma & Texas to not better their situation & stay in a conference where they will be at a financial & recruiting disadvantage in the future,.. just to keep the status quo.
Texas can go have a seat next to South Carolina. Ouch! Why did you have to pick us? I'm a Gamecock and that made me laugh. Then later on you said Texas can have a seat next to Vandy. That's more like it. We've beaten the Commodores ten times straight. Still, I'd love to see Texas and OU in the conference. Competition is what its all about. Go Gamecocks!
Big 10 should add Notre Dame and Cincinnati
The real truth about all of this shake up of college sports (not just football) but where can I get the most $$? Not the athletes, not the schools, not the tax payers - maybe they don't need tax payers anymore but they need fans. Half of a crowd could play into things.
I can see South Carolina voting no depending on how the conference is restructured
SC will not vote no
The Big Ten needs to start sniping schools now, Im talking more USC and Oregon then Iowa St and Kansas. Kansas brings their basketball chops to the Big ten which would be amazing but doesn't help the football side. The Big ten also needs to relax their requirements to join the conference if they are trying to stay relevant. Remove AAU membership as a prerequisite cause word is they were going after Texas but weren't interested in the Sooners due to them not being an AAU member. I have zero faith Kevin Warren navigates any of this properly and the Big ten will suffer due to his poor leadership.
Good luck.
@@machtschnell7452 Right? There are no good options left for the B1G if they stand pat on the AAU requirement. You've got a bunch of PAC-12 programs and some ACC programs like GTech, UVA, and UNC. None of these really help for football, even if you could dislodged them. They could maybe revive the B1G-PAC12 alliance that fell apart late last decade (the 9/11/2021 Oregon-Ohio State matchup is a leftover of this, OSU originally had Georgia on the schedule). But, I still don't think it helps muc.
At this point, I'm not worried about what the B1G does, my concern is how long Ohio State clings to the corpse.
@@denisdooley1540 eww Georgia Tech and UNC and Virginia not interested
There are too many conferences, and too many D1 teams. There are not enough players to go around.
Damn you sec !
I live in GA and am from Alabama. There is at least just as many people for it as are against it. You as a talking head that would obviously be against this, cannot create accurate polls on issues when you have already made your position obvious.
The B1G is less capable of buying out their contracts than the SEC is. There is nothing another conference has to offer that the SEC cant counter if they want to. I dont really see how you think thats the answer. OU and Texas could just go to the SEC and say the B1G os willing to buy out our contracts
This does NOT benefit the individual schools in the SEC. Makes no sense for them to approve.
You think SEC schools do not like. M O N E Y? 🤣😂😭
@@machtschnell7452 This benefits Texas and Okla MORE than it benefits any SEC school
Karl. So you are suggesting any of the current SEC schools don’t want more money? That just doesn’t make sense. Will OU and UT benefit from this. Of course they will. That would be like you telling your boss you don’t want a raise because other people at your job make more than you do
Let UCF come to the SEC.
They need a serious reality check.
RTR!
Everybody talking about the Sooners like they are some doorstep, yall bout to see what's up
If only OU counted all those fake natties like Bama, 22 or 23 I forget how many they would have
OU can't even beat A&M
Did this guy go into a tanning bed and put a cap on his nose lol
IDN but the brain is toast
Did you tell him he hurt your feelings?
I really do think the greed of power and money starts the destructive process that it usually occurs. Big dogs will become average year to year.
sec will grow with them but they will reduce their conference games fro 6 down to 3 cuz they said ‘it was hard before, now its harder, so 3 conference games is appropriate’. The rest of games will be against McDonalds University and Fashion Institute University more!!
Looking at the graphics showing OU's losses to the SEC is slanted....I believe, over all, OU has a winning record against the SEC teams.....besides, trying to forecast via looking at the past, is like trying to drive forward looking in your rear-view mirror.
It showed the record of OU's performance against the SEC in Playoffs...not over all record.
If Texas joins the SEC they will have to deal with the horns down sign again. We aren’t soft like the Big 12
You really pulled this one out of your butt
I don’t think EITHER OU OR TEXAS wanted to go to SEC !!! I suspect they both felt like they couldn’t recruit with the Piss Poor support they got From Bob Bowlsby related to TV contracts with all games at 11 AM. Plus NIL !!!! The extra money will be nice and better games is a plus But with 12 team play offs on the horizon, competition matters less !!!
The Big12 screwed up back when they even let Texas into the conference. The destruction of Nebraska's football dominance by removing that risk option for lower academic players that Nebraska used often to even get talent, ruined the Big12.
The fact is, the Big12 is a POS conference now, all because of their past decisions to hurt Nebraska and please Texas.
They get what they deserve.
You are absolutely right about Texas though
If the Texas boosters want them to go to the SEC they will right the check not sure what kind of money OU has access too
So A&M would be an ass to abstain Josh? And then you follow that up with “I’d like to see it get derailed”? Makes sense…
Anyone that’s ever done business with tu knows exactly why you don’t do it again. OU being the only one that continues to tag along. Granted, I get why to an extent but they would’ve been better off going with A&M back in the day. You know that’s true.
F texass
Both you and your buddies in Austin are pathetic. You’re both delusional about your accomplishments in college football. Enjoy your perennial 8-4 seasons to come
@@mikehaynes1769 8-4? Lmfao someone took a long nap in 2020. Wake up old man!
@@matrixtamu4433 SEC west, other than Bama, was very down last year. And you took your annual beating by Bama. Reality sets in this year.
@@mikehaynes1769 right… you’ve been sleeping on recruiting too. Another thread I’ll bump.
@@mikehaynes1769 A&M is a top 20 program all-time, and Texas is top 10. Your Alabama public-school education is showing.
CRYSTAL BALL.....Texas & OU come in.....10 years later Texas leaves the SEC
aTm leaves before that to become an independent because so psychotic. Too much syphilis in their sheep.
Nebraska left for the B1G cause they wanted to be seen as having legitimate opponents. Look where they are now, they'd be middle of the Big XII. I hope the same thing happens to OU and Texas. OU can back up their entitled attitude, but Texas is hanging on to glory that has passed them by.
Big12 and Big10 merge together to create THE super conference. Iowa and Iowa state rivalry, Nebraska and OU rivalry, OU /Texas rivalry stays intact and access to the bigger TV markets that the Big Ten enjoys, NY, NJ, Chicago, Ohio and Michigan, the DC beltway with Maryland. This is one point that needs to be made, when was the last time Alabama played a team as far north as OU at their stadium? In fact no SEC teams play any northern teams at their stadium after oct first. Why? Southern teams do not fare well in the cold. Even the pros when a warm weather team goes north in winter weather do not fare well. These SEC teams are loaded with kids that have never played in a game below freezing and it does matter the evidence is there. When it's snowing sideways and freezing in Norman on a Saturday night prime time game those Florida born players who have not practiced in that weather are going to let that get in their head and effect how they play. Why have indoor teams not won in playoffs in NFL without home field advantage?
That's why I think it's funny about the rumors that ohio st and Michigan are being contacted by the sec. If that does happen, the sec will schedule the big conference games that matter(Alabama, Georgia, Florida, lsu) at mich or ohio st in the first few weeks when it's warm. Then crap teams like Vandy and Kentucky will play at ohio/mich the last few weeks of the season. Can't have their bread and butter freezing now lol
If the B1G is going to "merge" with anybody it will be the Pac 12. We have a historical connection with them. This could setup a pair of super conferences with the North and West VS the South and East. The B1G isn't interested in anybody who can't bring notre shame as a date. If you manage to bring them along welcome to the conference otherwise so sad, too bad.
SEC is not Alabama- Alabama is not SEC., it consists of 13 other teams as well and those teams are scared of losing recruiting edge as well as games to OU and and some of them to Texas so don't tell me they are not scared. A&M is a perfect example for ya! Tennessee thinks they won't be THE "UT" anymore. Georgia is going to lose big time on recruiting. Vandy is going to add 2 more losses to its season and the list goes on.....
No one is scared of UT. They are a 6th-place program in the Big 12, losing consistently to Iowa State and K-State. In the SEC, they're Kentucky with a bigger stadium.
@@mikeholley5662 Never said UT is going to beat many good teams on the field. They however will beat them in recruiting, fan base and anything related to money. Also, with UT joining bottom half of the SEC will be adding another L to their win loss column.
@@paramtripathi854 That's all UT has left, winning the revenue standings. Maybe they can use some of that cash to buy themselves some dignity after they gave all theirs away crawling to the SEC like they just got evicted from their studio apartment.
I think the acc add Notre Dame and Cincinnati
This guy is still in denial the petro engine is dead
99.9% of cars on the road disagree with you, but keep living in your fantasy world.
Haters are gonna hate.... Welcome Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC
Looking forward to contributing.
Thanks William. We look forward to contributing to the conference
@@marvinwhisman3333 I really believe that they are a great fit and will be competitive in the conference!
The ONLY reason I'm sort of in favor of this move, is that it is one of the first few in a series of moves (along with NIL) that will decentralize/destroy the NCAA and lead us to a path of a new college football league, centered around the SEC as a nucleus, taking all that stupid, foot dragging slow-acting penalty system away with it.
Big 10/14 is going to get ISU and Kansas …..
They will be fine.
You do realize there are more sports than football right?