There are ways in which both emergent properties such as minds and life and so on have an effect.

Excerpt From: Science Saturday: A Plan to Dye One's Whiskers Green | John Horgan & David Deutsch
Link to Full Episode: • Science Saturday: A Pl...
Creator: John Horgan - Nonzero
Date of Publication: Apr 5, 2018
Big shoutout to John Horgan for the awesome content in this clip. Keep rocking it! 👏👏👏

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Note that information can exist without atoms -- as light. But information can't exist in the absence of both matter and energy? So matter & energy are the "bottom floor" of reality?

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I would never contradict (coherent parts of) physics and state (in my view) about the exact same thing: th-cam.com/video/UaMjogrLJEw/w-d-xo.html