Just like the west coast wildfire maps today are respecting the Canadian boarder lol. Tho it would be interesting to see how far the fallout penetrated into the Canadian landscape. Also tree's absorb radioactive particles and when they burn they spread that again, i guess technically humans do too when cremated.
I also want to mention the low-background steel. As modern steel is processed using atmospheric air, any steel produced after the testing has significant amount of contamination from radionuclides. However, steel made before Trinity doesn't and therefore has got an application in radiation sensitive equipments such as Geiger counters. This type of steel is usually salvaged from ships that sunk before 1945. There is a Wikipedia article about this with some references at the bottom, and you can probably find more info on the internet.
Google radioactive steel for the wiki! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel#:~:text=Modern%20steel%20is%20contaminated%20with%20radionuclides%20because%20its,that%20require%20the%20highest%20sensitivity%20for%20detecting%20radionuclides.
This is why certain "marine graveyard" Allied ships from the early, desperate days of World War II in an around Indonesia are gone. Karma may visit the scrappers who saw such wrecks as commodities. (But as we all know, the ghosts of soldiers, sailors and marines who died violently don't haunt the "guilty parties.")
@@Otokichi786 What karma? I get that those scrappers were doing a good deed by cleaning up the ocean after the allied forces dirtied them and failed to clean after themselves, but I would argue that there is little 'karma' in that anyway, since said scrappers probably profited monetary from it. So don't go feeling a societal pressure to donate to them.
I’m a thyroid cancer survivor who was born in 1954 on a dairy farm and drank raw milk ever day. The Ozarks region is in the area of highest exposure. I’ve wondered what caused it and I believe this video has the answer. I lost half my voice box to the cancer surgery.
well, if it's any consolation, those tests were necessary to create some of the most terrifying weapons that man should never have, and led to horrors that man had never known before. it was extremely important work.
7:00 The US government, agreeing to provide Kodak, with advance warning of upcoming nuclear tests, answers a question that has circulated within our family for decades. My paternal grandfather worked at Kodak, in Toronto, Ontario, for over 40 years, retiring in 1967. Although the tests were officially secret, Kodak Canada somehow received notice of impending blasts. The workers were instructed to place large sheets of lead over the sheets of photographic X-ray film. The film was protected, by this means. If the lead sheets were not placed, the radiation would get trapped in the morning dew, on the roof of the Kodak factory, and then pass through six concrete floors and damage the film. If this process was not followed, the film had to be discarded.
I appreciate you took this moment. It makes me feel better when I watch the video for the umpteenth time and think: this would be better if I had a clip of a double-headed rabbit.
Veritasium It’s just hard not to recognize the work that evidently goes into these videos. It’s one thing that the information is always interesting, but I think its charm comes from the genuine passion for these research projects more than anything. Edit: the double headed rabbit would help, obviously
As a biologist and just watching the video I think we should be jealous of the organism called Deinococcus radiodurans. This bacterium is able to completely repair its shattered chromosomes after being exposed to high levels of radiation (which cause DNA breaks). While humans experience neurological damages after being exposed to radiation of roughly 30 Gy, D. radiodurans can survive over 10000 Gy, since it is able to very effectively connected fragmented DNA (I'm just making a video about human DNA repair systems). Great video so far!
I remember learning about this when I was in highschool in Rochester, NY. It was super interesting to see how something that happened hundreds of miles away could affect something local.
Pietje Puk both are true, because the Atoms had to be forged(nuclear fusion) in a stars core... the higher elements are fused when stars go Nova or Super Nova, because higher energy is needed...massive stars stop at Iron fusion cause it is the tipping point in energy produced to energy needed to fuse...(thats why the reverse is true for nuclear fission, larger elements are more unstable and thus need less energy to “split” and release energy, E=mc^2 use it for fission and fusion) then they implode in a super nova and form either a neutron star or most likely a black hole because a star of great mass is needed to fuse Iron...
SlyPearTree we are all ghosts, riding a skeleton wearing a skin suit, on a rock whizzing through space, waiting to return to the stardust we first started off as!
@@nicotti Which is a gross breach of conduct…don’t excuse stuff like this, it should be a crime to do something like this. Anyone in the government who authorizes nuclear testing on their own population should be arrested.
At 1:53. Radium does NOT glow. To make the glowing dials used in airplane dials and in civilian clocks and watches, a very small amount of radium was mixed with Zinc Sulfide. The radiation from the radium would excite the zinc sulfide to release photons which was the source of the glow.
they protected themselves, technically. A couple people complain of increased bone cancer? meh. A Corporation that makes a large percentage of the world's X-Ray film finding beta radiation exposure where it shouldn't be? That's a helluva problem
@nymersic You are *way* wrong... DNA was discovered the 1860s not the 1960s. The understanding that DNA was the basis of genetic inheritance occurred in the 1940s. The understanding that radiation caused mutations was understood in the 1920s. But it is true that in the 1950s the real dangers of fallout wasn't understood.
@@louispena5166 but Miescher did not know about the molecular nature of DNA and so the knowledge of its molecular structure, which originated with W and C does indeed matter. Mutation wasn’t linked with changes in DNA until after the heavy testing period. We didn’t really know the true nature of atoms until after Rutherford and Bohr, among others. That wasn’t until the early 1900’s.
Soo... Basically what you are saying is that almost everyone who is alive is a boomer. Since what you said is that only people who were born before "1945" are not boomers ;)
eddyk well, logically it would be fair to assume you meant their birth would be close to ww2, that they were born just after ww2. But your comment is supposed to be a trick question because you’re trying to get someone to say “very old.” It’s actually quite dumb linguistically. When you mention ww2 you are referencing that time period according to your next statement as if they correlate in a similar sense. Technically, we’ve all been born after the titanic sank. But that statement is super redundant unless I’m referencing someone who was born right after the titanic sank and that is a significant part of their birth story.
I really don't think the pun requires this level of analysis, but it actually is kind of funny that atmospheric nuclear testing happened from '45 to '63 and the baby boom is defined as '46 to '64. It's pretty close
That was an agreement? Government: How about, INSTEAD of we lose money, you shut up for free and we'll tell you when you need to shut up for free. Kodak: ok o.o
@@CanariasCanariass well they got the ability to plan their logistics around the tests. That way they wouldn't lose any more money on damaged product. On top of that, they get to help a vital government program stay secret.
@@DerLamer Kodak probably sold a ton of film and paper to the US Government to document its scientific research, and if the U-2 needed some special film for high altitude photo-reconnaissance, I'll be Kodak could come up with it at a profitable price point.
Its amazing how much these nuclear tests have affected so many industries, I keep learning about more problems from these test, and from the sounds of it there is probably more fallout to be discovered.
My dad grew up in southern New Mexico, and was up doing chores that morning. He thought the sun was coming up early since the whole eastern skyline lit up. Later he learned that it was an ammunition dump explosion... Later learned that it was the Atomic bomb.
shatters windows in abq, it is interesting to go there tho, went there and i realized halfway through that i was standing in a nuclear bomb crater, crazy what almost 70 years does, if fact i have picked up pieces of fallout.
I literally clicked this video to find out how kodak filmed the atomic blasts. filming something that bright, on cameras in the 40s, and getting it right the first time has to be pretty difficult.
@@KillerWhale806 -- Same!! i thought the video would be about how Kodak solved filming a nuclear explosion without the entire frame of film being a massively over-exposed white/black blob
My mind is blown to realise that ‘Kodak’ helped Christopher Nolan to “film” the Oppenheimer movie about the ‘Trinity test’. The amount of irony here is literally uncanny. Thanks to YT for recommending it now!
7:29 "Radioactive material was blown into most of the country." Yeah, and into southern Canada. Kodak really underestimated how beneficial this lawsuit could have been.
@@liamoconnor74 Nah, I'm sure under the radar they also got a nice settlement out of court. Unless you mean it would have been beneficial to civilian lives, in which case you're probably right, but your biggest mistake there is assuming they cared about that even back then. They were just concerned about their paper.
@@nqqbix6128 "Beneficial to the world? Sure. To Kodak? Idk about that" They could've got billions out of it, to prevent them telling the public. But of course, if they would've asked so much money, then people working at Kodak would die because they would be killed by the government, to shut them up.
Agreed. I moved to the Rochester area a couple of years ago and it’s incredible to see what an influence Kodak’s fall from grace has had on the Rochester community is honestly sad
@ true. They could have made digital cameras fairly early on and failed to do so. Their failure to adapt, followed by mismanagement and incompetence, is a testament that nobody is too big to fail.
@@byufan Blockbuster says hold my beer. They dismissed buying Netflix for $50 million in its infancy. The startup slayed the dragon within a decade to eventually become a $150 billion behemoth.
@@garth2356 They're going around picking up curious eyeballs. If you look at their channel it's general knowledge and social science stuff, but with a relatively small number of views and subscribers. Mind you, that's not a criticism, just an observation.
I get the humor but still the best option. The East is way too densely populated. Where, specifically, would you do this? Second, this was the Cold War and the US would not want Soviet "fishing trawlers" in the Atlantic to get so much data.
I like how the US government was just like “yeah, we understand the whole ‘safety,’ ‘health,’ and ‘death’ thing, but if we put it here we can make weapon advancements faster. And that’s more important”
@@connorzoesch9087 you've got to be kidding me - it's the arrogance and bigotry that you've just displayed that makes us want a wall, plus the fact that you're intentionally turning into a 3rd world country as well
my favorite thing about videos like this is learning of all the horrible chemicals and particles that have ended up in my water, my food, my body, milk, etc. Love that
The chemistry and physics knowledge that Kodak had acquired over the years is phenomenal. When digital cameras arrived, I always though that the Kodak built sensors produced the best color.
It actually fused with the bomb material and formed a new element trinintie. Another nuclear test launched a manhole cover into space. Well in theory at least it most likely vaporized first.
it might have fused to the bomb material and made trinitite. That's what happened to the tower in the trinity test. I have a piece of it. It's really cool.
@@Dappersworth probably because the Nevada tests, they would never do when the wind was blowing towards las Vegas, only when blowing toward Utah which is where i think the imagine dragons band people grew up, and there are still people affected. my grandmothers friend died due to fallout from those tests.
6:15 : Scientists: -"Soooo.... We need to test these bombs close to the east coast. Otherwise we'll contaminate whole country." Government: -"Ok, got it! West coast it is!"
@@mkaleborn Well. Otherwise, East coast particles would go deep into the ocean. And even get to the europe. Which could hypothetically get to the USSR or even turn into international conflict.
My grandmother was a secretary for a general in the 1940’s. She witnessed Trinity in person as well as a test in the Pacific a year later. She gave birth to my mother just over a month prior to Trinity. My grandmother died from cancer at the age 41. My mother developed cancer in her early 40s as well.
Underground tests were left out of the 1963 Test Ban Treaty for a couple of reasons - first because the countries with nuclear deterrence did not want to completely give that up, and second because of the difficulty of detecting and characterizing underground tests, leaving a ban on underground tests unenforceable. The development of Fast Fourier Transforms for signal processing means that, today, we can detect and characterize such explosions.
Fun fact: When you perform Carbon-14 dating measurements nowadays, you still have to correct for the increased levels of radiation from these tests from the 1960s.
Do you really think it's just coincidence that The Tooth Fairy is part of the American culture? Now I suspect the fingernails4cash comercial wasn't just a joke, but there's something happening.
@@mihirkagalkar8349 You'd be surprised at how many conspiracy theorists that are on youtube. Even I can't tell if the OP is serious or joking anymore. For example conspiracy theory that I kept seeing was that the recent forest fires stopped at the Canada border... www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2020/09/15/wildfires-dont-stop-at-the-canadian-borderdebunking-the-latest-twitter-myth/
In the early eighties, I worked in a specialty paper mill equipped with giant sand filters that had been used previously to treat raw water to remove fallout. This allowed the mill to make paperboard for frames to facilitate handling of X-ray film.
@@F22onblockland doesnt matter who it is or WHERE they test a nuclear bomb. for decades we have had detection stations at the north pole. they pick up the shock waves and other stuff nuclear bomsb ALL HAVE to make when detonated- just because of their power. israel or anyone else can not detonate a nuke underground without it being detected. and surface or water tests are even easier to detect.
"There's something wrong with this picture" is such a poetic and fitting critique from the congressman. I dont know if that was intentional, but it's beautiful.
"Time Travel was never possible, that is, until massive amounts of Stronium-90 were seeded all over the continental united states in the time around 1950-1960, but thanks to thousands of tests by the then-United states of America, we can freely hope to and fro without much effort, although I'm to too sure about causality, it's never been safer, while jumping to past eras is like jumping off a cliff blindfolded, you might land in many of the pools, or you might hit solid ground" You could have the explanation that they're detecting Strontium-90 through time and that's how they get the 4th Dimensional coordinates that also likely use the quantum entanglement features of those isotopes, it found in this sci-fi future that quantum entaglement works across time as well as space.
ThePoshBoy 1 And a lot of these guys were experimenting with radiation in ways that would seem unthinkable dangerous today. The bombs alone probably wouldn’t have had so large an impact on so few. The additional deaths caused by radiation poisoning this minute probably only appear on the scale of hundreds of thousands or millions.
ThePoshBoy 1 He’s even smoking in the photo! You could look at his face and skin, and tell he was a heavy smoker, even without a cigarette in the photo.
Only Von Neumann died from a cancer caused by the radiation. After famously converting to Catholicism on his last days because he was terrorized by the idea of dying. (He was an atheist).
A very good friend of mine's father had this job of photographing nuclear explosion testing. He definitely died of cancer years later and received substantial settlement from the government. My point is he said that they wore eye "protection" of what would be the equivalent to welder's mask. I tried them on and looked directly at a noon day sun. It was barely a dim gleam in the sky. he said that when that bomb went off it was still brighter than day even when not looking at the blast!🤯
My grandfather was a carpenter who built structures that were used to tests blast effects during the above ground tests. He witnessed multiple tests at fairly close ranges (told me his crew was 6 or 7 miles from explosions several times) and they had dust from explosions cover them too. They were close so they could go in with the scientists right after the tests and evaluate the damage and work on moving any wreckage so it could all be examined. Yet he lived to 92 and died of heart failure so the dice of radiation damage landed lucky for him.
Some people are more resistant to radiation than others. There are people who smoke a pack or two cigarettes a day for decades and they still don't get cancer.
I live in Argentina and watched "Uranium - Twisting the Dragon´s Tail" several tiemes on TV. It's amazing documentary. It´s fun to hear him speaching spanish. The voice used and the quality in the doblaje is quiet good.
@@EdgardoAlessio I´m from Germany, but don´t know if there is a German version, I only know the original audio. Like with Spanish there are many German speakers as potential audience, so the translation and dubbing is mostly done in high quality.
@@klausM54 It's cool when the translation is accurated and well done. In the case of the Spanish translation the work done is awesome. The documentary has been published under two diferente titles (Depending on wich country it was projected). The first one is "URANIO. La roca que se volvió una bomba" wich means "Uranium, the rock that becaomes a bomb". The other one is "URANIO: La roca que CAMBIO el MUNDO" wich means "Uranio, the rock that change the world". It has TWO chapters in Latin America. In the second one, I was suprised to see him getting access to the core of a small research nuclear reactor made by INVAP for the Australia´s Goverment.
Thanks for the history lesson here. (I hail from “Kodak country” in Rochester, NY, USA 🙂.) Also, thank you so much for pointing out the recklessness of the government in not protecting its population from the tests. I do think you give the US government too much credit in not understanding the danger.
I actually thought this was going to be a video about Kodak developing images of the nuclear test, but this was actually a much better video and the "exposure" was not what I thought it would be.
@@blah596 thank you bro, noticed no funny comments bout what everybody was thinking about (kodak). took action myself. let's get this comment to the top
@@JJ-iy7rk >mexico >Milk contaminated from Chernobyl Y'all import milk from half way across the world? Because if you caught cancer from Chernobyl then Europe would basically be a Doom2016 reenactment
It seems you don't know what the word "conspiracy" means. The misnomer, "conspiracy theory" gets (mis-)used so often, people don't even know what those words mean anymore. A conspiracy is simply two or more people agreeing to commit a crime together. There are many real conspiracies, but also many FANTASIES (not theories) about conspiracies.
Do you look in your subscriptions? I gave up a long time ago trying to keep track of subscriptions using youtube itself. I just add all the channels I care about as feeds in Feedly.com instead. Works amazingly!
@@lonely.toaster He does say measurements first in imperial and then in metric. Not sure what is there not to like, other than it is time to come to ditch imperial. Even Brits partly ditched it.
Who cares, measurement systems are just another language. I am fully bilingual in two measuring systems and dabble in several others. So many people get hung up over which one is better. Institutionally educated people often are very uppity about metric and experience educated people are often more likely to prefer standard measures. I use both everyday as both have their high points and their low points. Linear measure is easier to read in standard but the math is easier in metric. The units in standard measurements are intuitive and generally are more useful for certain quantities.
the fact that it lies in the bones does not mean you have to cut them open to detect it, just like when we want to stop fever we're not removing your kidneys in order to achieve this goal. it can be detected because it emits specific particles (which can go through the tissues and out of the body)
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If you had a large population of mice with different factions with conflicting interests, and one of the factions knew the others were building a mouse trap able to give them total hegemony of all the other mice factions you bet they'd start building a trap too. You see the problem lies when you aren't sure that the others are building one or not: should you believe your enemy or beat them to developing the mousetrap? tldr: this analogy is pretty stupid
This doesn't surprise me. When I was a cinematographer and had light fog problems with a can of raw film stock I found myself talking to technicians in Kodak's Hollywood office who analyzed my can of film and followed it up the distribution chain. They were on it immediately and had answers their questions to their satisfaction quickly. They never said what the problem was but I got a few cans of 5247 for the cartoon studio that I was working for. They were pleasantly awesome to deal with and I got a great tour of the tech part of their Hollywood facility and subsequently was able to screen negative film with their special "easy on the film" projector. Kodak took quality control very seriously.
I recently had a problem with a box of EXPIRED TMAX 400 120 roll film from a well known bad batch from a few years back. Kodak (Argentina) replaced it without questions. They are really serious about their quality even to this day.
As a child in Calgary I noted an article in Time or News Week that gave a map of the radio active fallout plumes from Soviet tests in the Arctic island of Nova Zemla. It also left out any data for Canada. It interestingly showed high levels in Alaska (no surprise) and about 1/2 the level in Montana. Note this pattern flowed into the Yukon and Northwest Territories then turned south along the East front of the Rocky Mountains toward Montana while spreading out Eastwards. My conclusion as an 8 year old was infuriation that the Canadian Goverment in Ottawa was lying to us in Alberta and the milk I was drinking was contaminated. In 1960 at age 10 I moved to Brisbane Queensland so I was only further contaminated in a much much lesser way by a very few French tests in the South Pacific which had to travel around 5/6ths of the planet to reach our Queensland coastal pastures. The map from this video shows that I was also exposed to flow North along the Rocky Mountain Front of contamination from U.S. tests in the 50s Well fingers crossed -- so far -- cancer free in my 72nd winter.
Hope you're still doing well. Stories like this make me glad to live in a country without nuclear testing. The closest thing we got was a very very small amount of fallout after the Chernobyl explosion, and that was a couple of years before I was born
Yeah, my parents were born in Iowa in 1961 and 1963 - they're both right in that age range and fallout area to have received a lot of contamination in their water and food. No cancer for them yet either. But who knows what the future will bring as they get older. And ofc something else could always kill them first. Dad just got a warning a couple years ago that he needs to cut back on his sugar intake unless he wants diabetes.
No worse than the tobacco industry, they knew how addictive and dangerous it is and insisted it was safe. The average smoker gets way more radiation over the years than released by all the nuclear explosions by all countries combined. You should watch the video Derek did going with a Geiger counter to various nuclear incident sites.
Ameha K Heck, there are many more things that are worse than radiation. I hope we’ll have a first contact with some space elves some time soon so we can start worrying about the right things
"Fallout is a vitally important subject. Bombs are being tested, which to some extent contaminate the atmosphere." And they knew it. They knew it and they kept doing it. They did it more and more and more. Nevada is more full of holes from all the bombing than the movie Holes was.
the government protected *rolls of film,* but not the lives of our kids. there is something wrong with this *picture.* man, the level of the puns back then was really something else. respect.
@Mark Kennedy "But others were bad too" is never a good argument... Neither paper, a shirt nor your skin will block beta particles. Though that's irrelevant anyway given you have ingested their source and the radiation is being emitted from within your body - i.e. with direct contact to your cells. And your point is? Studies have estimated that 17,000 Americans died from cancer caused directly by nuclear testing fallout. I'm not sure boasting about how their peers lived long lives will give much comfort to those dying painful deaths or their families...
Fun fact: When you perform Carbon-14 dating measurements nowadays, you still have to correct for the increased levels of radiation from these tests from the 1960s.
Indeed, we are 100% star stuff, some of it still radioactive like potassium 40, and perhaps one part in 10 trillion Sr 90. So, when one wants sound scary and give folks a sense they are some how contaminated by nuclear fision, one drops the Sagan feel good star stuff.
@@Nill757 Lithium is a naturally occurring alkali metal, which living organisms ingest from dietary sources and which is also present in trace amounts in the human body. Lithium does not come from stars but was synthesized in the big bang. FWIW.
@@gepmrk An article from NASA last updated June 1 of this year asserts that much of the production of universal lithium is the result of novae, have there been findings in the past 4 months that refute this belief?
@@SanguineMalcontent I’d have to see the article from NASA but if this is the case then that’s a major shift from what was previously believed but that’s science for you. Thank you. I’ll see if I can find that article somewhere.
That last comment, the one about us containing the individual atoms that were produced in the fission of atomic nuclei in weapons tests, gave a somewhat awe-inspiring feeling similar to when being told that the atoms in our bodies came from stars and their deaths - albeit, the one thing differentiating those two emotionally was the terror of realizing the power, damage, and intent of the atomic bomb.
i love how Kodak tried to sue the US govt for its nuclear tests not out of environmental or health concerns, but because the windswept nuclear particles ended up in their factories and ruining their films and then the two made basically a hush money type of agreement, the US govt giving Kodak warnings of nuclear tests in advance as long as Kodak kept its mouth shut about them
Reminds me of covid, vaccines, election fraud, and other things deemed to sensitive for the public eye. The real disinformation is not coming from Russia. It comes from our own unaccountable agencies. Media and industry are captured via money, coercion, blackmail and threats as if the mafia has won.
I wish Nolan had included the content matter of this video in Oppenheimer. There is no justifying the horrors & aftermath of what Oppenheimer started, and this would've left people with a much larger & closer-to-home impact of the proceedings in the film.
10:02 "The government protected rolls of film, but not the lives of our kids. There's something wrong with this picture." That is the most legendary pun I've ever heard
filonin2 I wouldn’t say anybody made him change it. “How Kodak Detected the Atomic Bomb,” is a much more interesting title than, “The Nuclear Fallout They Kept Secret.” The original title is predictable. “Oh the government lied to us, what’s new?” The current title invokes more curiosity.
@@FlyntofRWBY definitely not, the of title would have actually caused some backlash twitter trend (rightfully so imo) but Derek knew that its effects now isn't that big so no point in creating a very mild form of mass concern
Okay, here is where I have to correct you as someone who does collect radioactive isotopes (legally of course). Radium does not actually glow, the reason you see radium paint glow is due to radioluminescent phosphor chemicals mixed into the paint. How this works is by the radiation particles striking the molecules of the phosphor, this in turn excites them and causes them to see light. Radium itself though has no glow.
FYI: Pre 1945 Battleship steel is sought after for instrument making especially those involved with radioactivity. This is because all steel since then has been contaminated by radioactive fallout elements during it's smelting.
"I have become death, the destroyer of worlds" couldn't have been a more true statement by Oppenheimer. Likely not even knowing how much death would occur decades later.
@@exeexecutor Yes, you are absolutely correct. However, few people are aware of its true origin and I just went with what most people could relate to on TH-cam. Thanks!
For some applications we need "low background" steel, that is steel produced before the first nuclear test. This is necessary for components of geiger counters, and some other instruments. I don't know how much we have left.
Well we can always make more -- the ore still in the ground isn't contaminated. We'd just have to put together a system for transporting and processing the iron and other necessary raw materials without allowing them too much interaction with the air. I'm sure it would be significantly more expensive than salvaging old metal but there's no reason it couldn't be done if it became that much of an issue (and of course the contamination in the atmosphere is dropping year by year as well.. eventually it will be low enough that it no longer matters anyway, so its entirely possible that there's enough salvage out there to last anyway.. you know, assuming we don't put a bunch more up there.)
I was involved with a project that maintained several NM64 neutron monitors. Each monitor station has a couple tons of pre-atomic age lead as part of the detector.
@@altrag Interaction with air is not going to significantly contaminate the materials. Unless you are talking about the refining process. But yeah we can even refine the radioactive materials out of it as well.
@@Niosus Yeah but the carbon comes from coal which is also just dug out of the ground, so a similar principle would apply there -- ie: just be very careful about exposing it to the air. I'm not really sure where exactly in the steel manufacturing process that atmospheric contamination gets into the mix.. but I do know we've got lots of clever ways to keep things extremely clean when we need to. Just gotta put the money in. Which leads me to believe that its more of a cost problem than an actual problem problem and while that excess cost could definitely be an issue for consumer grade goods (ie: off-the-shelf Geiger counters might not be fantastic quality,) I don't really expect it to be _too_ much of a burden to create new "clean" steel on the scale of industrial or military usage even if we run out of sunken ships.
Yup I'm from that area where the engineering school is in NYS where the scientists recorded the high level of radiation. They actually evacuated the building because they thought there was a leak somewhere. Until they got outside and got the same readings. Read that in the local paper some time ago. Very interesting story.
I heard a clean supply of iodine in you salt can help prevent your body from storing certain radioactive isotopes in your bones. Might want to check it out.
@@andrewkennett940 true there are also iodine tablets you can buy for use when exposure to fallout is likely. These are meant to saturate your thyroid with stable iodine so fallout iodine is less likely to accumulate in your thyroid gland. In times where nuclear strikes seemed likely people have stocked up a supply of these
"We have this new cool but destructive toy, how can we test it savely?" "Uhm let's do it here. It will then spread over the whole country and no one will notice a gradient"
Let's be honest, we all thought he meant the movie industry. edit: If you're confused, it used to reference the film industry. The title used to be "A secret from everyone but the film industry"
I love how the map just stops at the Canadian border. As someone who grew up in Saskatchewan I'm very glad that the fallout respected the border 😬
Oh course, the us would never accidentally use a weapon on an ally that would be silly
Just like the west coast wildfire maps today are respecting the Canadian boarder lol. Tho it would be interesting to see how far the fallout penetrated into the Canadian landscape. Also tree's absorb radioactive particles and when they burn they spread that again, i guess technically humans do too when cremated.
just like the maps shown on French TV after chernobyl;) apparently all the fallout rained down on the German side of the German/French border.
These comments are so funny 😂😂
I noticed that too! So embarrassing...
I also want to mention the low-background steel. As modern steel is processed using atmospheric air, any steel produced after the testing has significant amount of contamination from radionuclides. However, steel made before Trinity doesn't and therefore has got an application in radiation sensitive equipments such as Geiger counters. This type of steel is usually salvaged from ships that sunk before 1945. There is a Wikipedia article about this with some references at the bottom, and you can probably find more info on the internet.
Google radioactive steel for the wiki! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel#:~:text=Modern%20steel%20is%20contaminated%20with%20radionuclides%20because%20its,that%20require%20the%20highest%20sensitivity%20for%20detecting%20radionuclides.
This is why certain "marine graveyard" Allied ships from the early, desperate days of World War II in an around Indonesia are gone. Karma may visit the scrappers who saw such wrecks as commodities. (But as we all know, the ghosts of soldiers, sailors and marines who died violently don't haunt the "guilty parties.")
Brass and bronze as well.
Wow, that's awesome thanks for sharing
@@Otokichi786 What karma? I get that those scrappers were doing a good deed by cleaning up the ocean after the allied forces dirtied them and failed to clean after themselves, but I would argue that there is little 'karma' in that anyway, since said scrappers probably profited monetary from it. So don't go feeling a societal pressure to donate to them.
I’m a thyroid cancer survivor who was born in 1954 on a dairy farm and drank raw milk ever day. The Ozarks region is in the area of highest exposure. I’ve wondered what caused it and I believe this video has the answer. I lost half my voice box to the cancer surgery.
That sucks man glad you got the other half tho
Sue !?
@@Nachobeach Whom? The testing groups are far gone.
well, if it's any consolation, those tests were necessary to create some of the most terrifying weapons that man should never have, and led to horrors that man had never known before. it was extremely important work.
@@user-bg7us5bv6n Well it did accelerate development on Fission energy solutions.
7:00 The US government, agreeing to provide Kodak, with advance warning of upcoming nuclear tests, answers a question that has circulated within our family for decades. My paternal grandfather worked at Kodak, in Toronto, Ontario, for over 40 years, retiring in 1967. Although the tests were officially secret, Kodak Canada somehow received notice of impending blasts. The workers were instructed to place large sheets of lead over the sheets of photographic X-ray film. The film was protected, by this means. If the lead sheets were not placed, the radiation would get trapped in the morning dew, on the roof of the Kodak factory, and then pass through six concrete floors and damage the film. If this process was not followed, the film had to be discarded.
Feels great when such questions are answered doesn't it ?
I think the active particles got trapped in the morning dew regardless of the lead sheets being placed over the films.
This is considerably more concerning than I expected it to be
Lol, you’re not kidding
A feeling increasingly more common
Now go read about Teflon coating and what it does to the body... Most recently depicted in the 2019 movie "Dark Waters", based on a NYT article.
@HJ R Masks (at least those we are wearing these days) are no use for radioactive material, but yes you should wear them.
@HJ R ...are you ok?
Can we take a moment to appreciate the consistent quality in Veritasium videos?
I appreciate you took this moment. It makes me feel better when I watch the video for the umpteenth time and think: this would be better if I had a clip of a double-headed rabbit.
Veritasium It’s just hard not to recognize the work that evidently goes into these videos. It’s one thing that the information is always interesting, but I think its charm comes from the genuine passion for these research projects more than anything.
Edit: the double headed rabbit would help, obviously
@@veritasium make a video about double headed bunnies
10 years on and still going strong 💪
@@veritasium This video touched deep in the feels. I loved it much more than your previous videos
As a biologist and just watching the video I think we should be jealous of the organism called Deinococcus radiodurans. This bacterium is able to completely repair its shattered chromosomes after being exposed to high levels of radiation (which cause DNA breaks). While humans experience neurological damages after being exposed to radiation of roughly 30 Gy, D. radiodurans can survive over 10000 Gy, since it is able to very effectively connected fragmented DNA (I'm just making a video about human DNA repair systems). Great video so far!
Sounds really fascinating.
@@dnmurphy48 Thank you, Mr Spock
While I can appreciate this is good vs. radiation and cancer, isn't it also a hindrance to evolution?
Grey is a bad unit imo
*hearing that kid's UGH meme sound* or the Tardigrades, that can resist ultimate pressures in the worst environment and conditions...
I remember learning about this when I was in highschool in Rochester, NY. It was super interesting to see how something that happened hundreds of miles away could affect something local.
"We're made of star stuff" -Carl Sagan
"We're made of atomic bomb stuff" -Derek Muller
Carl Sagan's statement is true, Derek Muller's is not.
Both are almost true.
Pietje Puk both are true, because the Atoms had to be forged(nuclear fusion) in a stars core... the higher elements are fused when stars go Nova or Super Nova, because higher energy is needed...massive stars stop at Iron fusion cause it is the tipping point in energy produced to energy needed to fuse...(thats why the reverse is true for nuclear fission, larger elements are more unstable and thus need less energy to “split” and release energy, E=mc^2 use it for fission and fusion) then they implode in a super nova and form either a neutron star or most likely a black hole because a star of great mass is needed to fuse Iron...
@@damouze both are true lol
SlyPearTree we are all ghosts, riding a skeleton wearing a skin suit, on a rock whizzing through space, waiting to return to the stardust we first started off as!
Specialist: Advises the military where to safety conducts tests.
Military: Lets do the opposite.
That sums up 90% of the military right there.
Convenience > safety
@@lasarousi > OTHER people safety
They take their own safety pretty seriously
If you want to lowkey test the affects and spread of fallout, it's a lot easier to do it over your own populace rather than the ocean.
@@nicotti Which is a gross breach of conduct…don’t excuse stuff like this, it should be a crime to do something like this. Anyone in the government who authorizes nuclear testing on their own population should be arrested.
“The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five.” ― Carl Sagan
And all You need is one of the people to be insane or an idiot!
@@jtc1947 The situation itself is already insane and idiotic.
There be truth in that hello from Australia we had the Marilinga test site here
Great quote from a great man.
@@jtc1947 not even that, we only needed to have one soviet soldier not being sceptical enough to follow common sense instead of orders.
At 1:53. Radium does NOT glow. To make the glowing dials used in airplane dials and in civilian clocks and watches, a very small amount of radium was mixed with Zinc Sulfide. The radiation from the radium would excite the zinc sulfide to release photons which was the source of the glow.
"The government protected rolls of film, but not the lives of our kids. There's something wrong with this picture."
I see what he did there.
they protected themselves, technically. A couple people complain of increased bone cancer? meh. A Corporation that makes a large percentage of the world's X-Ray film finding beta radiation exposure where it shouldn't be? That's a helluva problem
Rekt
@@FrostyFoxDrake but do you see what he did there
@nymersic You are *way* wrong... DNA was discovered the 1860s not the 1960s. The understanding that DNA was the basis of genetic inheritance occurred in the 1940s. The understanding that radiation caused mutations was understood in the 1920s. But it is true that in the 1950s the real dangers of fallout wasn't understood.
@@louispena5166 but Miescher did not know about the molecular nature of DNA and so the knowledge of its molecular structure, which originated with W and C does indeed matter. Mutation wasn’t linked with changes in DNA until after the heavy testing period.
We didn’t really know the true nature of atoms until after Rutherford and Bohr, among others. That wasn’t until the early 1900’s.
A whole different reason for people born after 1945 to be called "boomers".
Soo... Basically what you are saying is that almost everyone who is alive is a boomer. Since what you said is that only people who were born before "1945" are not boomers ;)
OK boomer
@@KPRMIK If I told you I had a relative that was was born after world war 2... would you assume them to be very young? Or quite old?
eddyk well, logically it would be fair to assume you meant their birth would be close to ww2, that they were born just after ww2. But your comment is supposed to be a trick question because you’re trying to get someone to say “very old.” It’s actually quite dumb linguistically. When you mention ww2 you are referencing that time period according to your next statement as if they correlate in a similar sense.
Technically, we’ve all been born after the titanic sank. But that statement is super redundant unless I’m referencing someone who was born right after the titanic sank and that is a significant part of their birth story.
I really don't think the pun requires this level of analysis, but it actually is kind of funny that atmospheric nuclear testing happened from '45 to '63 and the baby boom is defined as '46 to '64. It's pretty close
That was an agreement?
Government: How about, INSTEAD of we lose money, you shut up for free and we'll tell you when you need to shut up for free.
Kodak: ok o.o
Thought the same lol. They got nothing out of that "agreement" lol.
Seriously
@@CanariasCanariass well they got the ability to plan their logistics around the tests. That way they wouldn't lose any more money on damaged product. On top of that, they get to help a vital government program stay secret.
US Gov: "Here are our terms. Only a commie wouldn't agree to them. Are you a commie, Kodak?"
@@DerLamer Kodak probably sold a ton of film and paper to the US Government to document its scientific research, and if the U-2 needed some special film for high altitude photo-reconnaissance, I'll be Kodak could come up with it at a profitable price point.
Its amazing how much these nuclear tests have affected so many industries, I keep learning about more problems from these test, and from the sounds of it there is probably more fallout to be discovered.
My dad grew up in southern New Mexico, and was up doing chores that morning. He thought the sun was coming up early since the whole eastern skyline lit up. Later he learned that it was an ammunition dump explosion... Later learned that it was the Atomic bomb.
No joke
I live only a few minutes from the site
No joke
I live only a few minutes from the site
Later he learned that his bone glowing
@@GuderII Lacks flourescence and quantity, no glow literally, only figuratively.
shatters windows in abq, it is interesting to go there tho, went there and i realized halfway through that i was standing in a nuclear bomb crater, crazy what almost 70 years does, if fact i have picked up pieces of fallout.
"How Kodak Exposed The Atomic Bomb"
Well _technically_ it was the atomic bomb that exposed Kodak's film...
Well yes, but actually no.
I literally clicked this video to find out how kodak filmed the atomic blasts. filming something that bright, on cameras in the 40s, and getting it right the first time has to be pretty difficult.
@@KillerWhale806 that’s what I thought too. Like what filter they used and etc
Thi
@@KillerWhale806 -- Same!! i thought the video would be about how Kodak solved filming a nuclear explosion without the entire frame of film being a massively over-exposed white/black blob
wow, that kodak scientist has better sleuthing skills than Columbo.
Dude would have made a solid spy
Just one more thing Mr Truman.......
he literally worked on the project so he kind of knew what to look for
American Sherlock
hailgod It’s surprising that someone who worked on the project ended up getting a job at Kodak.
My mind is blown to realise that ‘Kodak’ helped Christopher Nolan to “film” the Oppenheimer movie about the ‘Trinity test’. The amount of irony here is literally uncanny. Thanks to YT for recommending it now!
the what now????
sends shivers down ur spine.. agree
Imagine being the guy, who was tasked with identifieing the source of the radiation and stumbling upon a national top secret nuclear bomb test
That guy worked on the Manhattan Project, so he may have already known about the top secret nuclear bombs. lol
Epstined himself
He already work on Manhattan Project, I bet he just got mildly shock
@@xtramoist9999 "Oh, whaaaaaaaat? Nuclear? Noooooo waaaaaaayyy..."
That's when you get visited by men in black.
"There's something wrong with this picture." Oh, snap! The US Senate making jokes in a report about nuclear fallout and Kodak film. 😂
Hah! I missed that one. Very good.
Pun intended
Kodak almost...EXPOSED them.
@@CaveyMoth _Ba-dum-bum tsshh!_
🖤❣
All the 2 headed rabbits Iv'e seen living in Nevada make so much sense now.
wait, really?
The first Jackalopes were seen a bit after the Trinity test.
Is this sarcastic or is it fact?
@@amrfwws Yes.
@@amrfwws The video showed a cartoon two headed rabbit...LOL
3:26 im the cycle guy out there
Im so lucky to be in the vid thnx for featuring me:)
7:29 "Radioactive material was blown into most of the country."
Yeah, and into southern Canada.
Kodak really underestimated how beneficial this lawsuit could have been.
Kodak had a large plant in toronto at the time, I'm sure they were aware.
@@liamoconnor74 Nah, I'm sure under the radar they also got a nice settlement out of court.
Unless you mean it would have been beneficial to civilian lives, in which case you're probably right, but your biggest mistake there is assuming they cared about that even back then. They were just concerned about their paper.
beneficial? How so? How beneficial to KODAK would that lawsuit have been?
Beneficial to the world? Sure
To Kodak? Idk about that
@@nqqbix6128 "Beneficial to the world? Sure. To Kodak? Idk about that" They could've got billions out of it, to prevent them telling the public. But of course, if they would've asked so much money, then people working at Kodak would die because they would be killed by the government, to shut them up.
No, no, the map in the video clearly shows that the radiation stopped abruptly at the border. Canadians are just that good. :)
Gov: it’s ok it was a large conventional explosion.
Ppl: wait aren’t all explosions conventional?
Gov: 👀
Just a little gov’t Freudian slip
that was fantastic Ricasio thank you.
@Uncle Nik did you not get the joke?
@Uncle Nik what did u say?
@Uncle Nik Jeez, a couple of days go by and you're back to rude...
Me: applying for a job
Job requirements: be able to figure out nuclear state secrets using paper radiation
well now you know it
At least
Bruh
i know i wasn't the only one who clicked expecting kodak black.
LOL
You must build a computer with stone knives and bear skin rugs. By next week.
Kodak as a company is a shadow of what it once was, but in their day they were really amazing.
How the mighty fall, lost the plot as to say
Agreed. I moved to the Rochester area a couple of years ago and it’s incredible to see what an influence Kodak’s fall from grace has had on the Rochester community is honestly sad
@@byufan The fall of Kodak was primarily self inflicted.
@ true. They could have made digital cameras fairly early on and failed to do so. Their failure to adapt, followed by mismanagement and incompetence, is a testament that nobody is too big to fail.
@@byufan Blockbuster says hold my beer. They dismissed buying Netflix for $50 million in its infancy. The startup slayed the dragon within a decade to eventually become a $150 billion behemoth.
"Some of you might die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make". -- The Government
"Some of you might die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make." - The Government
everyone dies
@@holdmybeerbut not today
fReEdOm isnT frEe!!
@@NoxmilesDe A corollary of: "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help..."
This information is deep. Thanks for making such brilliant videos.
“The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five.”
― Carl Sagan
The universe is dark and full of trees.
It playing Russian roulette but all the camber are loaded
Wtf, how are you on every channel I watch?!!
@@garth2356 They're going around picking up curious eyeballs. If you look at their channel it's general knowledge and social science stuff, but with a relatively small number of views and subscribers.
Mind you, that's not a criticism, just an observation.
I have a new favorite quote
And now Kodak developed the film for Oppenheimer-a full circle moment.
Government: where can we bomb so that people are safe?
Scientists: go as far east as possible
Government: west it is then!
Scientists: 👁👄👁
Yeah and the scientist still ignored what will happen to europe or other countries across the ocean. Nice job
"I went so far east that I ended up west" - US Government, probably
East? I thought you said Weast
@@AngryApple The Atlantic ocean is pretty big.
I get the humor but still the best option. The East is way too densely populated. Where, specifically, would you do this? Second, this was the Cold War and the US would not want Soviet "fishing trawlers" in the Atlantic to get so much data.
I like how the US government was just like “yeah, we understand the whole ‘safety,’ ‘health,’ and ‘death’ thing, but if we put it here we can make weapon advancements faster. And that’s more important”
Wepon that's gonna protect democracy in middle east for israel
I guess you'd rather be speaking Japanese, right? Many paid a price for your freedom - soldiers and civilians alike.
@@ruffxm I know I would
Well too bad for you, we don’t. For an Asian, you certainly like a lot of Western culture. 日本に引っ越す
No one is paying attention to you.
Neither on the internet nor at home.
No one likes you.
Stop breathing my air.
9:00 very kind of the US government to stop the fallout from crossing the Canadian border
Yes and the weather in Canada is always the same, our border even stops storms.
Those Canadians and their Moose walls.
@@connorstohl6050
we're building a much bigger one now... and you're going to pay for it, lol
@@connorzoesch9087 you've got to be kidding me - it's the arrogance and bigotry that you've just displayed that makes us want a wall, plus the fact that you're intentionally turning into a 3rd world country as well
@@schmoborama Americans wanting a wall on the Mexican border is bigotry, but you wanting a wall blocking us off is not.
my favorite thing about videos like this is learning of all the horrible chemicals and particles that have ended up in my water, my food, my body, milk, etc. Love that
It makes you wonder about the things we aren't being told about that are happening now.
I like how the contamination map "ends" at the US border with Canada because hey - not the US' problem right?
who cares about mooseland?
Seriously.
Maple America
Well, sending people to test for radioactive material in Canada would be kind of suspicious, but yeah, still not cool.
Lol
The chemistry and physics knowledge that Kodak had acquired over the years is phenomenal. When digital cameras arrived, I always though that the Kodak built sensors produced the best color.
Kodachrome gives the nice bright colors, gives you the green of summer, makes you think a the world’s a summer day.
Rhyming Simon
@@lisamoag6548 DAMMIT EARWORM
@@TheChipmunk2008 oh yah
The ironic thing is they invented the digital camera.
@@TheChipmunk2008 “ skipping down the cobblestone, looking for love and feelin groovy”
For a split second, I confess I was asking myself why they'd dismantled the tower...
I need coffee...
Don't worry. I'm right there with you.
It actually fused with the bomb material and formed a new element trinintie. Another nuclear test launched a manhole cover into space. Well in theory at least it most likely vaporized first.
@@davidvanderbrook3988 at those speeds it probbably burned up from friction with atmo
It was literally evaporated in that explosion
it might have fused to the bomb material and made trinitite. That's what happened to the tower in the trinity test. I have a piece of it. It's really cool.
No wonder my grandpa had a thyroid problem. Very interesting video! Thank you for this information! This channel is amazing!
Never knew the song Radioactive was so accurate: "I feel it in my bones. Enough to make my systems blow. Welcome to the new age."
Holy crap 0_0
Wow, is that what that meant?
@@logancapes now that they mention it, probably
Never thought about this
@@Dappersworth probably because the Nevada tests, they would never do when the wind was blowing towards las Vegas, only when blowing toward Utah which is where i think the imagine dragons band people grew up, and there are still people affected. my grandmothers friend died due to fallout from those tests.
6:15 :
Scientists: -"Soooo.... We need to test these bombs close to the east coast. Otherwise we'll contaminate whole country."
Government: -"Ok, got it! West coast it is!"
So básically they are called baby boomers because of the bomb particles on their bodies 🤔
Just not west enough to affect Cali forn i a!
Ohhhhh, "east"? I thought you said "weast".
@@adolphgracius9996 man I gotta steal that for my BB dad. :)
@@mkaleborn Well. Otherwise, East coast particles would go deep into the ocean. And even get to the europe. Which could hypothetically get to the USSR or even turn into international conflict.
My grandmother was a secretary for a general in the 1940’s. She witnessed Trinity in person as well as a test in the Pacific a year later. She gave birth to my mother just over a month prior to Trinity. My grandmother died from cancer at the age 41. My mother developed cancer in her early 40s as well.
RIP. They're in a better place now.
A lesson: do not work for the government
I'm sorry to hear that
So you are next.
@@calculator4482 Read the room man, that's really not the right response to this
Underground tests were left out of the 1963 Test Ban Treaty for a couple of reasons - first because the countries with nuclear deterrence did not want to completely give that up, and second because of the difficulty of detecting and characterizing underground tests, leaving a ban on underground tests unenforceable. The development of Fast Fourier Transforms for signal processing means that, today, we can detect and characterize such explosions.
Fun fact: When you perform Carbon-14 dating measurements nowadays, you still have to correct for the increased levels of radiation from these tests from the 1960s.
Visited a lab a couple of years back. They said they measure negative ages on young trees before they account for radiation levels.
what about countries other than US?
That is a fun fact indeed
@@snehilkumar10 I dont have a good answer but we have found radioactive isotopes in the marianas trench; the deepest point of the ocean.
@@snehilkumar10 radiation is everywhere man, when it lands it just gets swept back up and travels to the next country
I can just imagine the scientists.
"We need baby teeth, for- uh- reasons."
"Ok."
"Ok. How much of them? Two, maybe three?"
"Yeah, 2-3 millions would be enough."
"Wait. What."
Thr program wasn't run by the government; it was started by an independent science panel in St Louis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Tooth_Survey
Do you really think it's just coincidence that The Tooth Fairy is part of the American culture? Now I suspect the fingernails4cash comercial wasn't just a joke, but there's something happening.
Operation Sunshine
7:29 I like how the fallout respects borders and doesn't enter Canada.
... no data was collected from the Canada side...
@@dingming4302 r/whoosh
Mihir Kagalkar thanks for doing that so I don’t have to
Very convenient that ....
@@mihirkagalkar8349 You'd be surprised at how many conspiracy theorists that are on youtube. Even I can't tell if the OP is serious or joking anymore. For example conspiracy theory that I kept seeing was that the recent forest fires stopped at the Canada border...
www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2020/09/15/wildfires-dont-stop-at-the-canadian-borderdebunking-the-latest-twitter-myth/
In the early eighties, I worked in a specialty paper mill equipped with giant sand filters that had been used previously to treat raw water to remove fallout. This allowed the mill to make paperboard for frames to facilitate handling of X-ray film.
The worse is only knowing how many "nuclear secrets of the past" we don't know yet.
Atomic Soldiers.
Their stories are awesome and truly horrifying.
not many with nuclear explosions- because its kinda hard to keep em a secret! At least since we built all the detection stations decades ago.
@@elevown is right. You may want to have a look to this too: th-cam.com/video/daZ7IQFqPyA/w-d-xo.html
@@elevown Israel: Allow me to not introduce myself.
@@F22onblockland doesnt matter who it is or WHERE they test a nuclear bomb. for decades we have had detection stations at the north pole. they pick up the shock waves and other stuff nuclear bomsb ALL HAVE to make when detonated- just because of their power. israel or anyone else can not detonate a nuke underground without it being detected. and surface or water tests are even easier to detect.
"There's something wrong with this picture" is such a poetic and fitting critique from the congressman. I dont know if that was intentional, but it's beautiful.
Almost certainly intentional, imo.
Almost everything that is done by politicians is intentional.
Anirban Pramanick That is very wise advice, and it is so true. I will remember this. Thanks!
What minute?
The Cong Critter was to some extent wrong. Bodies are self repairing. Film is not.
7:30 I love how the fallout in your map respects that national border...
Yeah ofc Canada didn't get any of it
@@farmminer4014 The fallout tried crossing the border and Canada border patrol was like "Um excuse me where's you're passport?"
That's why they wanted to detonate it close to the winds blowing towards mexico, because the border would've stopped it
They only have US data to work with
@@AlexAegisOfficial Whoosh
Gotta love that TRANSATLANTIC accent voice of authority on those old film clips.
"There is something wrong with this picture" is such a great sentence
do you reckon the pun was intended? :p
Yeah that hit so hard I let out an audible WHOOOAAA.
@@BAGG8BAGG More like a Jab at Kodak the photographic / technology juggernaut of it's time.
Must have been radiation dots on his mental film.
I'm surprised no one has used this as a premise for a sci-fi time travel story. Device that detects fellow time travelers by their strontium-90 level.
Well, that will only work on American tho
@@jackspedicy1904 well anywhere that there was nuclear tests so Russia to
That's why only Americans and American steel has traces of raditation right?
"Time Travel was never possible, that is, until massive amounts of Stronium-90 were seeded all over the continental united states in the time around 1950-1960, but thanks to thousands of tests by the then-United states of America, we can freely hope to and fro without much effort, although I'm to too sure about causality, it's never been safer, while jumping to past eras is like jumping off a cliff blindfolded, you might land in many of the pools, or you might hit solid ground"
You could have the explanation that they're detecting Strontium-90 through time and that's how they get the 4th Dimensional coordinates that also likely use the quantum entanglement features of those isotopes, it found in this sci-fi future that quantum entaglement works across time as well as space.
this is genius, tell hawkins about it
0:43 And Fermi, Feynman, Oppenheimer, and von Neumann ALL died of cancer.
ThePoshBoy 1 And a lot of these guys were experimenting with radiation in ways that would seem unthinkable dangerous today. The bombs alone probably wouldn’t have had so large an impact on so few. The additional deaths caused by radiation poisoning this minute probably only appear on the scale of hundreds of thousands or millions.
In the proud tradition of the Curies.
@@MakeMeThinkAgain 😆😂
ThePoshBoy 1 He’s even smoking in the photo! You could look at his face and skin, and tell he was a heavy smoker, even without a cigarette in the photo.
Only Von Neumann died from a cancer caused by the radiation. After famously converting to Catholicism on his last days because he was terrorized by the idea of dying. (He was an atheist).
A very good friend of mine's father had this job of photographing nuclear explosion testing. He definitely died of cancer years later and received substantial settlement from the government.
My point is he said that they wore eye "protection" of what would be the equivalent to welder's mask. I tried them on and looked directly at a noon day sun. It was barely a dim gleam in the sky. he said that when that bomb went off it was still brighter than day even when not looking at the blast!🤯
My grandfather was a carpenter who built structures that were used to tests blast effects during the above ground tests. He witnessed multiple tests at fairly close ranges (told me his crew was 6 or 7 miles from explosions several times) and they had dust from explosions cover them too. They were close so they could go in with the scientists right after the tests and evaluate the damage and work on moving any wreckage so it could all be examined.
Yet he lived to 92 and died of heart failure so the dice of radiation damage landed lucky for him.
My grandfather did the same and he died of cancer in his 50s.
@@pazz1038 May both rest in peace
Some people are more resistant to radiation than others. There are people who smoke a pack or two cigarettes a day for decades and they still don't get cancer.
@@videogyar2 No, that's utter nonsense. Nobody is more resistant to radiation. Some people are, however, less likely to get cancer.
@@skuyzy198 I believe he meant "susceptible", as is true with everything else; some people are more *susceptible* to radiation.
“And a characteristic of the organism is altered.” Shows a bunny with two heads.
The universal sign of "nothing to worry about".
Completely normal phenomona
_[a brahmin is mooing at you]_
not the entire organism is altered; just a few cells.
ok, you can woosh me now.
Vault Boy thumbs up!
Rewatching some scenes of "Uranium - Twisting the Dragon´s Tail" still gives me goosebumps. Great to see you going back the topic.
Love that show
I live in Argentina and watched "Uranium - Twisting the Dragon´s Tail" several tiemes on TV. It's amazing documentary. It´s fun to hear him speaching spanish. The voice used and the quality in the doblaje is quiet good.
@@EdgardoAlessio I´m from Germany, but don´t know if there is a German version, I only know the original audio. Like with Spanish there are many German speakers as potential audience, so the translation and dubbing is mostly done in high quality.
@@klausM54 It's cool when the translation is accurated and well done. In the case of the Spanish translation the work done is awesome. The documentary has been published under two diferente titles (Depending on wich country it was projected). The first one is "URANIO. La roca que se volvió una bomba" wich means "Uranium, the rock that becaomes a bomb". The other one is "URANIO: La roca que CAMBIO el MUNDO" wich means "Uranio, the rock that change the world". It has TWO chapters in Latin America. In the second one, I was suprised to see him getting access to the core of a small research nuclear reactor made by INVAP for the Australia´s Goverment.
Thanks for the history lesson here. (I hail from “Kodak country” in Rochester, NY, USA 🙂.) Also, thank you so much for pointing out the recklessness of the government in not protecting its population from the tests. I do think you give the US government too much credit in not understanding the danger.
Oh I get it...How Kodak "exposed" the atomic bomb. Clever.
I am so thick. I didn’t get it until I read this comment…
I actually thought this was going to be a video about Kodak developing images of the nuclear test, but this was actually a much better video and the "exposure" was not what I thought it would be.
@@chriskiwi9833 me ✌🏻
@@CopaPianist. Exactly what I thought. I was thinking and wondering about who made the videos of said atomic blasts, thinking it was Kodak.
It took almost a full year but a hero guided us to the correct understanding
Kodak done did it again. He finna get another 30 years
😂
Underrated comment
@@blah596 thank you bro, noticed no funny comments bout what everybody was thinking about (kodak). took action myself. let's get this comment to the top
Some let him drive the boat
Lmaoo
Makes me look at my Dad's odd quirks differently knowing that he was drinking radioactive milk as a kid.
It's still radioactive lol just a different kind
u killed me
Quirks. Like glowing in the dark?
"My dad's brighter than your dad..."
Mexico also hot radioactive milk contaminated from Chernobyl, lots of kids died of cancer
@@JJ-iy7rk >mexico
>Milk contaminated from Chernobyl
Y'all import milk from half way across the world? Because if you caught cancer from Chernobyl then Europe would basically be a Doom2016 reenactment
I just saw this somehow but this has got to be one of the most consistently interesting and solid TH-cam videos I’ve ever watched
When the truth is scarier than the conspiracies.
tends to be yeah
Always has been
I don't see how earth being flat is scarier than conspiracies
It seems you don't know what the word "conspiracy" means.
The misnomer, "conspiracy theory" gets (mis-)used so often, people don't even know what those words mean anymore.
A conspiracy is simply two or more people agreeing to commit a crime together. There are many real conspiracies, but also many FANTASIES (not theories) about conspiracies.
@@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself wtf?, where did you get that definition from?
I love how on their charts the radiation respect Canada's border
Well we wouldn't want an international incident now would we? :P
no passport. no entry.
ikr i was so relieved
Presented is Canadian
Canada respectfully rejected the radiations request for entry
"There's something wrong with this picture."
I didn't know we were in comedy court.
Is there any other kind?
It was easy to spot the signs I guess...
render
@aceCourtBot
"Kangaroo court"
5:36 the forbidden coffee maker
Lol
C'mon TH-cam algorithm, I'm subscribed to Veritasium but Destin had to tell me to watch this via twitter?!!! Shameful...
Do you look in your subscriptions?
I gave up a long time ago trying to keep track of subscriptions using youtube itself. I just add all the channels I care about as feeds in Feedly.com instead. Works amazingly!
You must be new to TH-cam
that's with the bell is for
Yeah I'm super and didn't see it for 3 days.
I have the bell enabled and still I got info about this video just today. Now is 20th day and this video was released in 16th.
@7:30 😲😲😲 wow. The phrase "happy cows come from California" has a whole new meaning
Ayyyyy jabrils!
Jabril man
Not anymore though since the whole west coast is up in flames.
Yes mate, I just realised that too😯
@DickEnchilada nothin more american than a classic bbq!
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how this channel always mentions measurements in metric? So much appreciated.
twisted_void I don’t like it cause I’m American
twisted_void at least I’m learning metric
@@lonely.toaster When you learn it you will never go back to the banana scale system ;)
@@lonely.toaster He does say measurements first in imperial and then in metric. Not sure what is there not to like, other than it is time to come to ditch imperial. Even Brits partly ditched it.
Who cares, measurement systems are just another language. I am fully bilingual in two measuring systems and dabble in several others. So many people get hung up over which one is better. Institutionally educated people often are very uppity about metric and experience educated people are often more likely to prefer standard measures. I use both everyday as both have their high points and their low points. Linear measure is easier to read in standard but the math is easier in metric. The units in standard measurements are intuitive and generally are more useful for certain quantities.
Im baked af watching this at 3am and when i seen the thumbnail i literally thought they exposed nuclear testing with a muscle car on a field
to tell how old a person is you gotta cut open their bones and count the rings of strontium
or just ask them...
It is not like dating in trees 😁😁
the fact that it lies in the bones does not mean you have to cut them open to detect it, just like when we want to stop fever we're not removing your kidneys in order to achieve this goal. it can be detected because it emits specific particles (which can go through the tissues and out of the body)
@@vityamv no
The video was outstanding. I couldn't see it being made any better. Top notch! One minor thing, since I was born in NY, All - bany". :-)
i agree. except for the fact that they very start was an advertisement 🙄 that won’t age well
I read this comment like a second before he said it in the video
Also, the correct pronunciation of "Tama" follows the usual rule for vowel-consonant-vowel; not "Tamma".
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@@nnsqutr I cringed when he said that.
“I can’t come into work today”
Boss: “why?”
“My strontium levels are too high today”
It's ok, come 29 years later
"Did you take your aluminum pill today?"
@@JonatasAdoM More like, did you sniff your coke today? We'll find your replacement in a week so just make sure you live until then
We'll miss you down at the missile silo.
"Youre not feeling sick?"
"No boss, the scientists decided to release the power of the atom outside our town "for science"
I must have watched this video 10x over the past couple years, amazing.
"Mankind invented the atomic bomb, but no mouse would ever construct a mousetrap."
- Albert Einstein
Aren't humans just a wonderful species?
I dunno, man. I bet some mice have sadistic personalities and would construct a mousetrap if they could.
If you had a large population of mice with different factions with conflicting interests, and one of the factions knew the others were building a mouse trap able to give them total hegemony of all the other mice factions you bet they'd start building a trap too.
You see the problem lies when you aren't sure that the others are building one or not: should you believe your enemy or beat them to developing the mousetrap?
tldr: this analogy is pretty stupid
Education f*%ked us all up
@@nestoregerenio7841 We do not want a mouse trap gap.
This doesn't surprise me. When I was a cinematographer and had light fog problems with a can of raw film stock I found myself talking to technicians in Kodak's Hollywood office who analyzed my can of film and followed it up the distribution chain. They were on it immediately and had answers their questions to their satisfaction quickly. They never said what the problem was but I got a few cans of 5247 for the cartoon studio that I was working for. They were pleasantly awesome to deal with and I got a great tour of the tech part of their Hollywood facility and subsequently was able to screen negative film with their special "easy on the film" projector. Kodak took quality control very seriously.
Becouse quality control is more important than human lifes.
I recently had a problem with a box of EXPIRED TMAX 400 120 roll film from a well known bad batch from a few years back. Kodak (Argentina) replaced it without questions. They are really serious about their quality even to this day.
@@83hjf Happy to test it. I bet they asked if the carton had been opened.
As a child in Calgary I noted an article in Time or News Week that gave a map of the radio active fallout plumes from Soviet tests in the Arctic island of Nova Zemla. It also left out any data for Canada. It interestingly showed high levels in Alaska (no surprise) and about 1/2 the level in Montana. Note this pattern flowed into the Yukon and Northwest Territories then turned south along the East front of the Rocky Mountains toward Montana while spreading out Eastwards. My conclusion as an 8 year old was infuriation that the Canadian Goverment in Ottawa was lying to us in Alberta and the milk I was drinking was contaminated. In 1960 at age 10 I moved to Brisbane Queensland so I was only further contaminated in a much much lesser way by a very few French tests in the South Pacific which had to travel around 5/6ths of the
planet to reach our Queensland coastal pastures. The map from this video shows that I was also exposed to flow North along the Rocky Mountain Front of contamination from U.S. tests in the 50s
Well fingers crossed -- so far -- cancer free in my 72nd winter.
Let's hope you keep it up and get to your 73rd, and many winters after that!
Hope you're still doing well. Stories like this make me glad to live in a country without nuclear testing. The closest thing we got was a very very small amount of fallout after the Chernobyl explosion, and that was a couple of years before I was born
You didn’t hear that the British tested their nukes in south Australia?
Yeah, my parents were born in Iowa in 1961 and 1963 - they're both right in that age range and fallout area to have received a lot of contamination in their water and food. No cancer for them yet either. But who knows what the future will bring as they get older. And ofc something else could always kill them first. Dad just got a warning a couple years ago that he needs to cut back on his sugar intake unless he wants diabetes.
"as an 8 year old kid". Sure buddy. Lol
It took me two years to realise the pun in the title.
Kudos, Derek.
Still never forget Quark's words from DS9:
"They irradiated their own atmosphere?!"
That’s how evil they are. People have no idea and if they did they’d rip govt people’s faces right off.
No worse than the tobacco industry, they knew how addictive and dangerous it is and insisted it was safe. The average smoker gets way more radiation over the years than released by all the nuclear explosions by all countries combined. You should watch the video Derek did going with a Geiger counter to various nuclear incident sites.
Ameha K Heck, there are many more things that are worse than radiation. I hope we’ll have a first contact with some space elves some time soon so we can start worrying about the right things
@@twinkytwinklier4047 the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors beg to differ.
"Fallout is a vitally important subject. Bombs are being tested, which to some extent contaminate the atmosphere."
And they knew it. They knew it and they kept doing it. They did it more and more and more. Nevada is more full of holes from all the bombing than the movie Holes was.
the government protected *rolls of film,* but not the lives of our kids. there is something wrong with this *picture.*
man, the level of the puns back then was really something else. respect.
Kodak moment dude.
In the age of technocapitalism, they only care and watch each others butts.
@Mark Kennedy "But others were bad too" is never a good argument...
Neither paper, a shirt nor your skin will block beta particles. Though that's irrelevant anyway given you have ingested their source and the radiation is being emitted from within your body - i.e. with direct contact to your cells.
And your point is? Studies have estimated that 17,000 Americans died from cancer caused directly by nuclear testing fallout. I'm not sure boasting about how their peers lived long lives will give much comfort to those dying painful deaths or their families...
Fun fact: When you perform Carbon-14 dating measurements nowadays, you still have to correct for the increased levels of radiation from these tests from the 1960s.
@@rebelaqua823 lol, you cheeky..
"There is something wrong with this picture." I see what you did there...
Hahaha nice
Ah, they just don't teach poetic rhetoric like that anymore.
@@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself they never did, except in particularly wealthy institutions
@@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself did you see the speech in England. "Britannia rules the waves, Britannia waives the rules"
Oh. I get it. Took me a while.
I’m over here thinkin Kodak Black interrupted some secret government plan😂💀I was like ain’t now way bruh.
[Carl Sagan] "We are star-stuff."
[Veritasium] "And also nuclear bomb-stuff."
Indeed, we are 100% star stuff, some of it still radioactive like potassium 40, and perhaps one part in 10 trillion Sr 90. So, when one wants sound scary and give folks a sense they are some how contaminated by nuclear fision, one drops the Sagan feel good star stuff.
@@Nill757 Lithium is a naturally occurring alkali metal, which living organisms ingest from dietary sources and which is also present in trace amounts in the human body. Lithium does not come from stars but was synthesized in the big bang. FWIW.
@@gepmrk An article from NASA last updated June 1 of this year asserts that much of the production of universal lithium is the result of novae, have there been findings in the past 4 months that refute this belief?
@@SanguineMalcontent I’d have to see the article from NASA but if this is the case then that’s a major shift from what was previously believed but that’s science for you. Thank you. I’ll see if I can find that article somewhere.
@@gepmrk www.nasa.gov/feature/lithium-comes-from-exploding-stars
That last comment, the one about us containing the individual atoms that were produced in the fission of atomic nuclei in weapons tests, gave a somewhat awe-inspiring feeling similar to when being told that the atoms in our bodies came from stars and their deaths - albeit, the one thing differentiating those two emotionally was the terror of realizing the power, damage, and intent of the atomic bomb.
i love how Kodak tried to sue the US govt for its nuclear tests not out of environmental or health concerns, but because the windswept nuclear particles ended up in their factories and ruining their films
and then the two made basically a hush money type of agreement, the US govt giving Kodak warnings of nuclear tests in advance as long as Kodak kept its mouth shut about them
Well that's a corporate.
I love how you just made a synopsis
yes we watched the same thing
Reminds me of covid, vaccines, election fraud, and other things deemed to sensitive for the public eye.
The real disinformation is not coming from Russia. It comes from our own unaccountable agencies. Media and industry are captured via money, coercion, blackmail and threats as if the mafia has won.
I too watched the video.
I wish Nolan had included the content matter of this video in Oppenheimer.
There is no justifying the horrors & aftermath of what Oppenheimer started, and this would've left people with a much larger & closer-to-home impact of the proceedings in the film.
10:02 "The government protected rolls of film, but not the lives of our kids. There's something wrong with this picture."
That is the most legendary pun I've ever heard
A Kodak moment if you will
God I love this channel. Scientific journalism with strong undertones of intellectual curiosity
INITIAL TITLE: "The Nuclear Fallout They Kept Secret"
*They* made him change it.
filonin2 I wouldn’t say anybody made him change it. “How Kodak Detected the Atomic Bomb,” is a much more interesting title than, “The Nuclear Fallout They Kept Secret.” The original title is predictable. “Oh the government lied to us, what’s new?” The current title invokes more curiosity.
@@filonin2 Then 'they' would make him take down the video too.
Most likely just AB testing.
@@FlyntofRWBY definitely not, the of title would have actually caused some backlash twitter trend (rightfully so imo) but Derek knew that its effects now isn't that big so no point in creating a very mild form of mass concern
@@FlyntofRWBY r/whoosh
Okay, here is where I have to correct you as someone who does collect radioactive isotopes (legally of course).
Radium does not actually glow, the reason you see radium paint glow is due to radioluminescent phosphor chemicals mixed into the paint. How this works is by the radiation particles striking the molecules of the phosphor, this in turn excites them and causes them to see light. Radium itself though has no glow.
FYI: Pre 1945 Battleship steel is sought after for instrument making especially those involved with radioactivity. This is because all steel since then has been contaminated by radioactive fallout elements during it's smelting.
Scapper flow is a good place for that
If that's true why they sinking hulls of old battleships purposefully. Pissing contest i guess
i was just about to state this. its why china has secretly scrapped some protected sights. also lead from roman ships is high sought after
That is what I was told in the 70’s when we got our brand new gamma spectrometer. Pre 45 steel containment. Still blows me away
@@kirkt7452 really damn
"I have become death, the destroyer of worlds" couldn't have been a more true statement by Oppenheimer. Likely not even knowing how much death would occur decades later.
It wasnt Oppenheimer who said that its from the Hindu scripture Bhagavad Gita
@@exeexecutor Yes, you are absolutely correct. However, few people are aware of its true origin and I just went with what most people could relate to on TH-cam. Thanks!
Man went on the greatest indirect power trip in the history of man
@Ben Jones Wow. I didn't know that. That is as close to treason as possible.
Krishn said this to Arjun-
For some applications we need "low background" steel, that is steel produced before the first nuclear test. This is necessary for components of geiger counters, and some other instruments. I don't know how much we have left.
Well we can always make more -- the ore still in the ground isn't contaminated. We'd just have to put together a system for transporting and processing the iron and other necessary raw materials without allowing them too much interaction with the air. I'm sure it would be significantly more expensive than salvaging old metal but there's no reason it couldn't be done if it became that much of an issue (and of course the contamination in the atmosphere is dropping year by year as well.. eventually it will be low enough that it no longer matters anyway, so its entirely possible that there's enough salvage out there to last anyway.. you know, assuming we don't put a bunch more up there.)
I was involved with a project that maintained several NM64 neutron monitors. Each monitor station has a couple tons of pre-atomic age lead as part of the detector.
@@altrag Interaction with air is not going to significantly contaminate the materials.
Unless you are talking about the refining process.
But yeah we can even refine the radioactive materials out of it as well.
@@altrag AFAIK the issue is not the ore getting contaminated, but the carbon that's added to make the steel.
@@Niosus Yeah but the carbon comes from coal which is also just dug out of the ground, so a similar principle would apply there -- ie: just be very careful about exposing it to the air.
I'm not really sure where exactly in the steel manufacturing process that atmospheric contamination gets into the mix.. but I do know we've got lots of clever ways to keep things extremely clean when we need to. Just gotta put the money in.
Which leads me to believe that its more of a cost problem than an actual problem problem and while that excess cost could definitely be an issue for consumer grade goods (ie: off-the-shelf Geiger counters might not be fantastic quality,) I don't really expect it to be _too_ much of a burden to create new "clean" steel on the scale of industrial or military usage even if we run out of sunken ships.
Yup I'm from that area where the engineering school is in NYS where the scientists recorded the high level of radiation. They actually evacuated the building because they thought there was a leak somewhere. Until they got outside and got the same readings. Read that in the local paper some time ago. Very interesting story.
This video hits a hell of a lot harder when you just survived bone cancer...
If you come from those areas, and are "old" (=were alive and there in that era), you could maybe sue...
I heard a clean supply of iodine in you salt can help prevent your body from storing certain radioactive isotopes in your bones. Might want to check it out.
Ohh
@@andrewkennett940 true there are also iodine tablets you can buy for use when exposure to fallout is likely. These are meant to saturate your thyroid with stable iodine so fallout iodine is less likely to accumulate in your thyroid gland. In times where nuclear strikes seemed likely people have stocked up a supply of these
Congrats bro glad ur here still 💯💯
"We have this new cool but destructive toy, how can we test it savely?"
"Uhm let's do it here. It will then spread over the whole country and no one will notice a gradient"
Try finding a place in the eastern US that is more than 150 miles from a town or city.
@@michaelsommers2356 try not nuking your own citizens just because its convenient lol
@@CanyonF You would nuke a lot more of your own citizens if you did the tests in the eastern US.
@@michaelsommers2356 That's exactly the opposite of what's said in the video... They did them in the western 'cause of logistic matters
@@Igort93 It is so bloody obvious that testing in the east is a no go that it doesn't need to be stated explicitly.
Let's be honest, we all thought he meant the movie industry.
edit:
If you're confused, it used to reference the film industry.
The title used to be "A secret from everyone but the film industry"
Possible clickbait, maybe?!
I feel bamboozled. He really pulled the wool over my eyes this time. Please don't hoodwink me like that, Veritasium.
Yeah, me too
Yeah and I was disappointed, but it turned out super interesting.
movies can't be made without film
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