You are a great host, Mr. David. You ask great questions that the audience is asking in the background. It's as if you are anticipating what we want to ask. Mr. Beea is a great narrator. Thanks for bringing to us this great information - the real struggle history. It's so detailed and inspiring. PLEASE KEEP THE SERIES GOING, SIR!
I like your guest and will trace him to contact him in future. This are the people I respect and want him to teach real history to our generations and empower our knowledge.
Great interview but I must say that Jacob Zuma never said that he was head of MK at any point. It is unnecessary to try to subliminally discredit Jacob Zuma at every opportunity.
Yes, but that song has always been sung by those who heard stories about the little situation they heard of and started preaching exaggerations because of praise singing of their beloved. uBab'Msholozi once said it clearly that he used to report to cadre Joe Nhlanhla on security intelligence issues.👏🇿🇦
Hi David Please ask Mr Beea about the police plant he was with when they crossed into Botswana .we want to know what happened to the man when discovered .he is very interesting interview waiting for part 3
This i can listen to for hours, Bra Dave, please lets continue with such stories, rather have a separate day specific to our history. Some of us born in late 70's in the home lands we have no such stories in oir memories, Well done King
20:53 - 25:00 this man said a lot! a very very critical point!! now we know what really happened, why we are where we are! We as Batswana mo Botswana really played a very big role in the struggle of SA
Ke gone o utlwang? South Africans used to skip the border, running away, and we have always shielded them, and the South African youth look at us as lesser people(Batswana).
@@tendanipelaelo6293Not Batswana Morena, I've not heard South Africans have issues lelona. Yes Zimbabwe Nationals, and I think it's related to "illigal immigration", which is fuelled by economic factors.
You know when you listen to this gentleman. Many questions arise in my mind. I ask myself unanswered questions. If people have gone through such, how is it easy to sell the country so easily to the oppressors?
Love this podcast, there is a gap thats being filled right here. @1:20:30, I see Ntate Beea’s point but I gather number plates have always been easy to Forge or steal especially if vehicle is unmarked.
Great show and very educational, people want to claim MK as their own. I`m looking forward to the next round. I fully agree with u that we need to make movies with this.
What amazes me is that, most of the foreigners in South Africa, don't seem to understand that South Africans followed orders of each and every country they visited. Not this thing of coming here riding on crocodiles. 🤣🤣
Wow 😢😢 Mashabele o senganga. It so nice to hear from the real person who have been there experience it not a chance taker. This stories should have been told to Mbongeni Ngema and make movies 🎬. I can't wait for the remaining parts
I served in the SADF and these so called liberation forces were the most ill disciplined bunch of people. I witnessed this during their integration into the SADF which led to the SADF.
The relationship between Diepkloof and Alexander is rich. I maybe reading too much to it, but there is a lot of stories like this. You Rre Mmusi for the education
All security units in SA have intelligence, but there is the 'pure intelligence branch ". I don't understand the clarification purpose, as Zuma was for 'pure intelligence', worked directly with Tambo in the same manner as Mbeki did. That's why Tambo sent him to Lead the 1st delegation to SA with Mbeki. It's a given, Chris Hani has own Intelligence, like SADF has intelligence, Police also has own Intelligence. These are all not regarded as with capacity, resources of 'pure intelligence' unit.
Listening to these stories, learning how our people struggled makes the betrayal by abo Ramaphosa worse. The political freedom was attained at such high costs but kumanje it has been surrendered to DA. We are meant to be fighting for economical liberation but the sellouts of the ANC have reversed the gains of the then struggle.
Its painful. I hope these stories will make people who suddenly think DA is some god realise how cruel the apartheid system is. I use “is” deliberately because thats what the DA is, an apartheid system.
Mr Beea is right i was once told by former ex Mk combatant whom were in the Moncada detachment ,others in Madinoga detachment that J.Z was not the head of mk intelligent.Malume Kasrils was the head ,J Z was heading a regional structure
Guys you really trying to discredit Zuma by all cost....but without those guys mentioning all those shenanigans we all knw there all small boys to Zuma there are even videos showing Zuma speaking to MK structures
😂😂😂From the 2000s they've been trying so hard to discredit Zuma. The man is too strong, just give up guys, the man is blessed with power and intelligence by God
My worry part is ppl manage to show apartheid how dey want things but now dey fail to confront their own comrade if dey derail from de mission cos I hear wen he said he don't Wana say something dat it will hurt government system but thanks for his support
That's not true the this man is here to underscore zuma legacy,if he is telling truth what Zuma and Cris and other soldiers don't talk about that zuma was just a soldier,he is lying zuma work together with with Joe nhlanhla and others they try by all means to distorte information as it is
Chris Hani was killed...the second phase of the struggle collapsed. We were denied our true economic freedom. We stuck with political parties n sell outs. Struggle continues
Why is it important in your chat, to putting Zuma wasn't Head of all MK intelligence. What the relevance to this veteran story. Is it about Zuma, or his life (old veteran) experience? Be relevant in your Headings. Zuma is the most popular SA Leader, today's Mandela. He brought ANC down, and opened African eyes/ poor betrayal by ANC of Ramaphosa.
Great interview. May Cde Beea tell us more about the policeman who had been planted into his group when crossed into Botswana. Was he detained by the ANC or did he escape back to SA
The succession plan where he says, the ANC will get rid of apartheid introduce democracy and the handover to SACP for the 2nd phase economic emancipation 13:40, "the NDR". That right there brings a whole lot of questions about Chris Hani's death🤔
Le rona those infiltrators e kare re ka di batla mo Botswana, we lived in fear such that a curfew was imposed..On June 14, 1985, South African forces conducted a raid in Gaborone, resulting in the tragic deaths of 12 individuals, including civilians. This operation targeted anti-apartheid exiles and serves as a stark illustration of the apartheid regime's unrelenting efforts to suppress dissent beyond its own borders, impacting neighboring countries. This incident, along with the 1974 assassination of activist Onkgopotse Tiro, highlights the extensive and ruthless nature of the apartheid government's actions.
I like stories like this . As a Botswana citizen i ve always taken lightly my country's role in the struggle. But now i can see that we really took part and a very prominent one. Rogue officers within the Botswana security Forces off course were there but that does not take away the fact that Botswana ' s role was really prominent. Otherwise we could have recognized Bophuthatswana as an independent state but we refused . That shows that my country , at least officially was pro the struggle. However i think Botswana was afraid to take the Zambian approach . That of allowing training camps for ANC and others. That would be dangerous hey. It would give the Boars reason to invade Botswana , topple our Government and install a puppet regime. And that would take a Day. There is this story also but from Zimbabwe. th-cam.com/video/coIrYqWwJ5Q/w-d-xo.html
Which veteran is this one who doesn’t even know that an organization cannot have various intelligence units. It is obvious those that serve in the individual units reports at the intelligence headquarters.
we actually need a movies\documentaries about these stories...Mr Beea is such a good story teller!
On it.
I agree, fully.
You are a great host, Mr. David. You ask great questions that the audience is asking in the background. It's as if you are anticipating what we want to ask. Mr. Beea is a great narrator. Thanks for bringing to us this great information - the real struggle history. It's so detailed and inspiring.
PLEASE KEEP THE SERIES GOING, SIR!
My excitement when I finally saw this update😁 Ive been contemplating whether to watch it now or wait for part 3 but I found myself halfway through it.
Bro! After so long!!! We’ve been waiting! Don’t keep us waiting another month for part3, the suspense is unhinged
😂 I thought I was the only one
I like your guest and will trace him to contact him in future. This are the people I respect and want him to teach real history to our generations and empower our knowledge.
Thankyou for bringing it back. I was so concerned as to what happened.
What a good history to learn, thank you Mr David
Great interview but I must say that Jacob Zuma never said that he was head of MK at any point. It is unnecessary to try to subliminally discredit Jacob Zuma at every opportunity.
Yes, but that song has always been sung by those who heard stories about the little situation they heard of and started preaching exaggerations because of praise singing of their beloved. uBab'Msholozi once said it clearly that he used to report to cadre Joe Nhlanhla on security intelligence issues.👏🇿🇦
King D I am impressed. Very proud of you my brother.
Hi David
Please ask Mr Beea about the police plant he was with when they crossed into Botswana .we want to know what happened to the man when discovered .he is very interesting interview waiting for part 3
This i can listen to for hours, Bra Dave, please lets continue with such stories, rather have a separate day specific to our history. Some of us born in late 70's in the home lands we have no such stories in oir memories, Well done King
20:53 - 25:00 this man said a lot! a very very critical point!!
now we know what really happened, why we are where we are!
We as Batswana mo Botswana really played a very big role in the struggle of SA
Ke gone o utlwang? South Africans used to skip the border, running away, and we have always shielded them, and the South African youth look at us as lesser people(Batswana).
At other times authorities in Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland were instructed to arrest activists. @@tendanipelaelo6293
@@tendanipelaelo6293Not Batswana Morena, I've not heard South Africans have issues lelona. Yes Zimbabwe Nationals, and I think it's related to "illigal immigration", which is fuelled by economic factors.
💯 south Africans never had problem le Batswana in they called you their sweetest neighbors
In fact
Not me screaming when I saw the upload.. I've been waiting for part 2 hle lena!
You know when you listen to this gentleman. Many questions arise in my mind. I ask myself unanswered questions. If people have gone through such, how is it easy to sell the country so easily to the oppressors?
Love this podcast, there is a gap thats being filled right here. @1:20:30, I see Ntate Beea’s point but I gather number plates have always been easy to Forge or steal especially if vehicle is unmarked.
Great show and very educational, people want to claim MK as their own. I`m looking forward to the next round. I fully agree with u that we need to make movies with this.
So refreshing, after part 3 we need to diagnose as to what went wrong?
What amazes me is that, most of the foreigners in South Africa, don't seem to understand that South Africans followed orders of each and every country they visited. Not this thing of coming here riding on crocodiles. 🤣🤣
Ntate Beea we salute you. The way you are telling these stories it tells you didn't cook information information to please us. We thank you
Please bring fmr Chief Justice Dikgaan Moseneke on one of these extended conversations
Yoh dankie bra deza we've been waiting 🫵🏽🔥
Wow, great story. We need to hear more of this, truly.
Ntate Mashabela please drop part 3
Been waiting, so thank you for part 2.
Wow 😢😢 Mashabele o senganga. It so nice to hear from the real person who have been there experience it not a chance taker. This stories should have been told to Mbongeni Ngema and make movies 🎬. I can't wait for the remaining parts
I served in the SADF and these so called liberation forces were the most ill disciplined bunch of people. I witnessed this during their integration into the SADF which led to the SADF.
One of the bunch of Sadf recruit ,who were sodomise,beaten and ill trained by white instructors
So how did they uncover the spy police? It missed me while I thought it was about to be revealed
I came back because of how the first part ended...
The relationship between Diepkloof and Alexander is rich. I maybe reading too much to it, but there is a lot of stories like this. You Rre Mmusi for the education
All security units in SA have intelligence, but there is the 'pure intelligence branch ".
I don't understand the clarification purpose, as Zuma was for 'pure intelligence', worked directly with Tambo in the same manner as Mbeki did. That's why Tambo sent him to Lead the 1st delegation to SA with Mbeki.
It's a given, Chris Hani has own Intelligence, like SADF has intelligence, Police also has own Intelligence. These are all not regarded as with capacity, resources of 'pure intelligence' unit.
Thank you , what an episode , Denis , Theodore etc. , great narrator indeed. , Looking forward to the next episode
I enjoyed this 6 hours conversation ya Bar Dave le dis legend... He is so loaded with information
Excellent History Lesson!!!! If its nice, we play it twice
Yoooh final, i have been waiting for part 2 and 3 for days
I respect this veteran. This is a powerful story
King David listening to that conversation ❤ it all the way from KZN in Durban keep it up
Host very good, important history.
The Governors we needed. LEADERSHIP
Eish @ Bra David I have been waiting for part 2 ..... Danko
I love this, it's more interesting gofeta tsadi celebrity. Please keep it coming. Wow
King David and Veteran gave us great story never heard.
Please invite Seipati Mokhethi ! I’m sure she has a lot to offer about media and the music industry. She has a lot to offer!
Commander morning,well articulated Ra
Listening to these stories, learning how our people struggled makes the betrayal by abo Ramaphosa worse. The political freedom was attained at such high costs but kumanje it has been surrendered to DA. We are meant to be fighting for economical liberation but the sellouts of the ANC have reversed the gains of the then struggle.
Ay no humans are something else. To suddenly have a fake GNU with people who did this cruel stuff to your fellow people is something else...
Its painful. I hope these stories will make people who suddenly think DA is some god realise how cruel the apartheid system is. I use “is” deliberately because thats what the DA is, an apartheid system.
FINALLY!!!
Danko bra Mdeva 🏆
Yoh thank God, I was almost done watching the last time before it got deleted
Was it deleted??
@@thandimbumbe3717 Yes it was, about 2/3 weeks back
I ve just watched part one now.
Was also wondering what happened cz I was watching
Part 3 please King David
Mr Beea is right i was once told by former ex Mk combatant whom were in the Moncada detachment ,others in Madinoga detachment that J.Z was not the head of mk intelligent.Malume Kasrils was the head ,J Z was heading a regional structure
1:02
Guys you really trying to discredit Zuma by all cost....but without those guys mentioning all those shenanigans we all knw there all small boys to Zuma there are even videos showing Zuma speaking to MK structures
Ronnie Kasrils was Military Intelligence. Zuma was head of underground structures and head of imbokodo which was the Intelligence of ANC, not MK
I knew that Zuma ke phunya re bese
😂😂😂From the 2000s they've been trying so hard to discredit Zuma. The man is too strong, just give up guys, the man is blessed with power and intelligence by God
King Dave this is great
Thank you...
Thank goodness it's back
That its not irrelevant now.
That was a great conversation💥💥💥👋looking forward to the next one🙌please invite Mma Connie Ferguson
This conversation is very interesting
The planted police didn't end , what happened to the spy police?
We waiting for part 3 please 😢
My worry part is ppl manage to show apartheid how dey want things but now dey fail to confront their own comrade if dey derail from de mission cos I hear wen he said he don't Wana say something dat it will hurt government system but thanks for his support
King David you are a good interviewr
That's not true the this man is here to underscore zuma legacy,if he is telling truth what Zuma and Cris and other soldiers don't talk about that zuma was just a soldier,he is lying zuma work together with with Joe nhlanhla and others they try by all means to distorte information as it is
That is what he said but that there were 4 branches and Zumas branch was one of them
Chris Hani was killed...the second phase of the struggle collapsed. We were denied our true economic freedom. We stuck with political parties n sell outs. Struggle continues
Hani was the last comrade. After that e nnile bo phunya re bese
Very true
Mr Mashabela please upload part 3, it's been days now 😂💔😭🙌🏾
Why is it important in your chat, to putting Zuma wasn't Head of all MK intelligence. What the relevance to this veteran story. Is it about Zuma, or his life (old veteran) experience?
Be relevant in your Headings.
Zuma is the most popular SA Leader, today's Mandela. He brought ANC down, and opened African eyes/ poor betrayal by ANC of Ramaphosa.
Absolutely. This man seem to have a nefarious agenda.
Zuma is not a revolutioneer that he claims to be
@@aarongunnz9513 Notorious Disinformation account you are
@@aarongunnz9513 Disinformation account
Great interview. May Cde Beea tell us more about the policeman who had been planted into his group when crossed into Botswana. Was he detained by the ANC or did he escape back to SA
I missed the part of him going back to the lady he was dating after finding out that she was an askari
Thanks for the info about head of intelligence..
I remember your dribbling soccer skills and 9b special at Alex High,Obza
King David we are waiting for the next session.
we don't care whether he was not the head of all intelligence or he was but the fact remains he was the head of intelligence
Thank you bra D-e you kept your promise
Mara nee man, Bra D I've been waiting all this time for that story of the girlfriend in Alex who had a policeman husband, what happened there?
Re kopa part 3 ntate David 🙏
Brilliant humor
This grootman I respect him
Motubatse, bo ke botswerere. Tswela pele ka bontle jo. Nnete e tshwanetse go tswela.
The succession plan where he says, the ANC will get rid of apartheid introduce democracy and the handover to SACP for the 2nd phase economic emancipation 13:40, "the NDR". That right there brings a whole lot of questions about Chris Hani's death🤔
When is part 3 coming ?
Mara where is Lele Ledwaba? I would like to know her story and where she is now... Can we have her on the show please?
Unpacking TRC since Nelson failed
Le rona those infiltrators e kare re ka di batla mo Botswana, we lived in fear such that a curfew was imposed..On June 14, 1985, South African forces conducted a raid in Gaborone, resulting in the tragic deaths of 12 individuals, including civilians. This operation targeted anti-apartheid exiles and serves as a stark illustration of the apartheid regime's unrelenting efforts to suppress dissent beyond its own borders, impacting neighboring countries. This incident, along with the 1974 assassination of activist Onkgopotse Tiro, highlights the extensive and ruthless nature of the apartheid government's actions.
imagine President Mbeki on the podcast....over 3 Hours.....Flames
Ooh that sell out...
😂😂😂😂Stop that one is sell out
Mbeki, a Fingo was always on the side of White business
@31:00 that is what money, power (capital) means. Only capital can control destiny.
I like stories like this . As a Botswana citizen i ve always taken lightly my country's role in the struggle. But now i can see that we really took part and a very prominent one. Rogue officers within the Botswana security Forces off course were there but that does not take away the fact that Botswana ' s role was really prominent. Otherwise we could have recognized Bophuthatswana as an independent state but we refused . That shows that my country , at least officially was pro the struggle. However i think Botswana was afraid to take the Zambian approach . That of allowing training camps for ANC and others. That would be dangerous hey. It would give the Boars reason to invade Botswana , topple our Government and install a puppet regime. And that would take a Day. There is this story also but from Zimbabwe. th-cam.com/video/coIrYqWwJ5Q/w-d-xo.html
I thought Amos Masondo was the mayor of Joburg and never the premier of Gauteng.
So is this why Hani had to go? To stifle the program?
Bra Ambi aka Amos Masondo Sekano High senaone was once Joburg Mayor not Premier
Zuma never had the intellectual brain to of held that Post.
So how then is he able to remain relevant politically? I think the absence is in your head.
Who were prison waders black s or colourd
Does it mean that every Piet pompies that crossed the border is a veteran even if the person was not at the front.
Dlaminin - Zuma was one of the Bcm leaders
Where is part 3
Yes ask him , do we have secrets in SA
Watch the first episode, he answered it.
Bra Dave you didnt get to how they found out that the slender Pedi guy was a police officer
Yaa, le nna i want to know!
Also we curious to know what happened to the spy lady he was dating in part 1
@@itumelengdipheko8402they cut that part
1:10:51 - The role of President Jacob Zuma in MK Intelligent
Zuma is claimed to be the boss in that role
Zuma never claimed to be the you are you OK.
Zuma ke phunya re bese
Which veteran is this one who doesn’t even know that an organization cannot have various intelligence units. It is obvious those that serve in the individual units reports at the intelligence headquarters.
Finally
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Ai lotata inganekwane yakhe inobu Van Damme kakhulu so I'm not sure ngaye
❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
1:30:22 thanks