Star Force 3 And The End of Mega Man RPGs

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  • Even with Mega Man as a whole facing certain doom, Star Force 3 would become one of the best games in the franchise despite all odds.
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  • @ntheultimate6781
    @ntheultimate6781 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    Words can't describe how much Star Force 3 (Black Ace specifically) means to me. It was my introduction to Mega Man, RPGs, and many little things that I like to see in games. The music, the characters, and gameplay really makes this one of my absolute favorite games ever! Stinks that my 3DS is on the verge of death nowadays, since before that was the case, I couldn't stop returning to this game! I even still have the same save file from all the way back then.
    *Although I never actually finished the post-game...*

    • @kmank84141
      @kmank84141 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I normally don’t comment, but your comment… y e s

    • @hakimalam7753
      @hakimalam7753 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You might want to continue the post game, the secret boss is one hell of a fight

    • @MageOfLuck
      @MageOfLuck ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sirius is one hell of a boss I suggest you actually check it out. The only real requirement is the 150 standard cards in the library really.

    • @Alvarocious
      @Alvarocious ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The post game slaps.

    • @starminer7z746
      @starminer7z746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @N the Ultimate Are you my clone? That’s me to a T

  • @4BlueHero
    @4BlueHero ปีที่แล้ว +604

    It’s so sad the Megaman rpg series ended, but it sure went strong when it was at its peak. I love how this era of Megaman adopted Tokusatsu elements showing the heroes take on transformations in human form!

    • @ApalloTheHedgehog
      @ApalloTheHedgehog ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Especially Kamen Rider during the StarForce trilogy, mostly notes from the Heisei Era

    • @zerourtaga1129
      @zerourtaga1129 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I mean even though I liked it it kind of sucks that Battle Network 4 was like the highest selling of the battle networks because that game turned off a lot of newcomers who adamantly refuse to play the other game that came before it because they thought it was horrible and then the two games after that and Battle Network 5 and 6 were really good but especially with all the people that started with four not wanting to play it after 4 and how bad it was kind of destroyed the series and I didn't even know strikeforce was a thing until way into the 3DS era and I never got it a try and twice just recently got StarForce 3 with a double sale with double team DS when I ordered it off Amazon I would love for them to make a new series for the modern consoles it doesn't even need to be you know a strike force for or a battle Network 7 but something like this would be beautiful

    • @Alvarocious
      @Alvarocious ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Imagine a modern day Battle Network rpg.

    • @SonplaysMinEcraft
      @SonplaysMinEcraft ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ZX and Star Force deserve better

    • @Lucario1121
      @Lucario1121 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hopefully if the sales for the Battle Network Legacy Collection are good it might convince Capcom to try again

  • @Rodolphin
    @Rodolphin ปีที่แล้ว +449

    Just gotta put this out there but the recent discovery of Starforce 4 really gave fans of the sub series a hole in their heart

    • @omegaman255
      @omegaman255 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      I’ve known about it for years. It still kills me inside after the masterpiece that was SF3.

    • @kuraux56s59
      @kuraux56s59 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Out of all the cancelled Megaman projects. Star Force 4 is the one I have the most mixed feelings about.
      The whole thing of Lan's descendant appearing, makes me think that they would have delved deeper into what happened to Net Navis when PETs started to go out of fashion...
      On the other hand, Geo becoming an outlaw hacker... It makes it feel like going out of their way to null Star Force 3's wonderful ending.

    • @kuraux56s59
      @kuraux56s59 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @film fan Uh, you kinda... CANT! The game has been long since cancelled! Closest thing to it is a in-development fangame that takes some elements of what little was revealed about the game.

    • @justanothergabs4710
      @justanothergabs4710 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@kuraux56s59 megaman breaks my heart with cancelled sequels man, legends 3, zx 3, x9, starforce 4, etc. We don't have any confirmations for some of these but cmon, most of these series ended up in cliffhangers, hopefully the franchise gets revived a bit more with the collections

    • @kuraux56s59
      @kuraux56s59 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@justanothergabs4710 *SPIT* I dont have any faith in Capcom to deliver in any of those.
      I have far more faith in the staff of Super Robot Wars delivering proper conclusion to each unfinished Megaman saga, as they have done with tons of unfinished series in the past. As unlikely as the possibility of any Megaman series in a console SRW game is.

  • @UnifiedEntity
    @UnifiedEntity ปีที่แล้ว +168

    You really see Geo's personality brighter than ever in this game. That's one of the highlights I remember in this game most. His clear sign of character progression.

    • @DESTRAKON
      @DESTRAKON ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Dude even Solo loosened up a bit cause of him, that’s a neat little touch

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DESTRAKON Solo got more fleshed out and i like how much the devs gave to him besides trying link him to mu but also give him a reason why he has a disdain for bonds so much.

    • @maxleon61702
      @maxleon61702 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts.

    • @hilvystewy7298
      @hilvystewy7298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think geo had the best character development among every MegaMan protagonist

  • @ForrestFox626
    @ForrestFox626 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    I'm hoping with Battle Network getting a Switch collection, Starforce will soon follow.
    I'm really hoping it's possible, because Starforce was my favorite Mega Man series (flaws and all), it was my introduction to the series as a whole.

    • @MrKlausbaudelaire
      @MrKlausbaudelaire ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Plus the game isn't overly reliant on the dual screen to adapt to a single screen Switch, in fact Switch DO have touch sensibility if they want to keep things like the Wave Command function (which in SF2 is kinda like legal Action Replay with the bonkers options you get xD)

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrKlausbaudelaire Are they even adding the chip gate and e-reader functions to MMBN LC?

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's not a "Switch collection", it's for PS4 and Steam too.

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mattwo7 Whatever, that is the way I'm playing it

    • @MrKlausbaudelaire
      @MrKlausbaudelaire ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mattwo7 no idea, but considering all of Switch's functionality, it wouldn't be impossible to even add the wifi battles.

  • @user-yo7fy7rp6i
    @user-yo7fy7rp6i ปีที่แล้ว +88

    1:00:00 Sirius being destroy by Area Eater is sort of an irony poetic by design, through the whole Post game, he's been known and show himself enjoying taking things from others for grant and is not ashamed of the act. So when you, the player took away his battlefield in the fight, it's basically the ultimate karma served cold.

  • @MageOfLuck
    @MageOfLuck ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Note that Buds current Taurus wizard is actually just a copy of the real one recreated from the data that still exists within Bud.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly, it was stated in SF2 that there is still EM residue in Buds body after being possessed.

  • @Matthew_Murray
    @Matthew_Murray ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Star Force 3 took what was already a good series and made it legendary and unforgettable.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SF3 was LEGENDARY!!!

  • @EnigmaBarry
    @EnigmaBarry ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Playing Battle Network and Star Force during my childhood was a wild ride. You've done a fantastic job covering all 9 games. I always loved the computer aesthetic with a mix of trading card game and real time action mechanics. It's really amazing how good the writing in SF3 was.
    Here's a fun fact: The localizers didn't realize it, but Alohaha is the same island as Scissor Island. This is the island Lily and WindMan.EXE from BN4 are from. There's another BN4 SF3 parallel for you.

  • @flameguy21
    @flameguy21 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I'll never be able to get over how in order to break the game all about friendship, you have to abandon the ability to have friends and embrace sword fighter x

    • @DJruslan4ic
      @DJruslan4ic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      true

    • @TheAzulmagia
      @TheAzulmagia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can always just use Gemini Noise and/or Wolf Noise.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@TheAzulmagianah I'm all in for just Rogue noise

    • @snatcherofpeachs
      @snatcherofpeachs ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's a creative mechanic in a series chock full of 'em. But not dissimilar from the ones introduced in 4 and 5 with Dark Chips/Dark Megaman.

    • @jadeyumol4811
      @jadeyumol4811 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus rogue noise(in my personal opinion) is the coolest noise form, design wise. its worth it not having friends for that form.....and its even better looking(my opinion again) than red joker, not black ace though. The freedom strike look of black ace form is amazing

  • @Garrulous64
    @Garrulous64 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Peak Mega Man right here. It was worth it going through MMSF2 to get to this one.

    • @JayTacoDustyTowers
      @JayTacoDustyTowers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      idk what you're talking about
      2 is the best one :]

  • @AdamTheGameBoy
    @AdamTheGameBoy ปีที่แล้ว +105

    What's crazy is SF3 still sold much better than most of the classic and X series. You would be shocked how little most of the X games sold and new games just kept getting greenlit.
    I'm still holding out hope Star Force 4 could still release someday, the Capcom interest survey earlier this year I specifically mentioned it wasn't too late to revive SF4 development.

    • @eyalrephaeli6833
      @eyalrephaeli6833 ปีที่แล้ว

      really?

    • @sarthakarora3212
      @sarthakarora3212 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are comparing the market x vs starforce. The very fact X is mainstream despite having less sales should tell you it did way better.

    • @blackpants7385
      @blackpants7385 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sarthakarora3212 In what way?

    • @StarForce99
      @StarForce99 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@sarthakarora3212 I believe he was mentioning and comparing *only* the recent X and Classic games to SF3 in particular that Star Force was pretty popular despite its niche appeal and can still give Capcom a boost in confidence to revive the series. Nothing about talking down on X and Classic. Just Star Force definitely has some pretty good appeal for a Mega Man series.

  • @ianzam6788
    @ianzam6788 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    It's here, the masterpiece

    • @setsers1
      @setsers1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YEP

    • @SendFoodz
      @SendFoodz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      t'was a masterpiece indeed.

    • @stellarkym
      @stellarkym ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yesss

    • @pepito69
      @pepito69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re a masterpiece

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was the greatest mega man masterpiece.

  • @alialbannay6707
    @alialbannay6707 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    41:41 fun fact, in rockman x dive the rogue sword from star force 2 is called nightmare

    • @anderson9244MLG
      @anderson9244MLG ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And it's one of the most powerful melee weapon in that game,and it's not event limited

    • @akesan2374
      @akesan2374 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anderson9244MLG Still is the most busted i'm pretty sure too, which is insane to think about in a mobile game

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว

      i wonder if Laplace sword would be?

  • @NianJKL
    @NianJKL ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I am so happy to see the conclusion of this series and the series in general being talked about I randomly bought these games from a game stop years ago and have deeply loved all 3 ever since. For you question about Laplace. Solo and Laplace don’t go into too much detail but Laplace is a Wizard from Mu which helped him open up a little more because he now doesn’t feel as alone.

    • @unknownuser494
      @unknownuser494 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I am right Laplace also appear after the destruction of Le mu.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@unknownuser494 so that may apply that Mu also had Wizard and Hunter-VG tech back then too. that or like Omega, he was an EM body integrated into a wizard and that he's so silent that Solo took a liking to him.

  • @setsers1
    @setsers1 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    It's A Shame. The Mega Man RPGs Were Phenomenal.

    • @jackmist
      @jackmist ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Except mmbn4. We don't talk about mmbn4.

    • @EnderGrad
      @EnderGrad ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jackmist TRUE

    • @luigiye6243
      @luigiye6243 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@jackmist there is a bn4? I thought that there were only 5 games and skipped that number 😉

    • @unknownuser494
      @unknownuser494 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackmist weirdly mmbn4 was financially hit.

    • @jackmist
      @jackmist ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@unknownuser494 Only because of how good 3 was. After mmbn3, the popularity of battle network was at it's peak so of course fans are gonna buy the new game.

  • @Superdario9000
    @Superdario9000 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was really looking forward for this video. I truly enjoyed how you made it. Both the EXE series and the Starforce series hold a special place in my heart. I could not put both their final entries down, and while I'm sad we didn't get a Starforce 4, as you said, it was quite a ride.
    That last part where you made the anime slideshow with all forms and the theme has made me cry. So beautiful. Thanks for the video!

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    45:44 Well non-human characters getting brutalized usually makes it past cencors. Every version of Shredder in the 4kids TMNT (not counting the Mirage Comics and 80s Shredders) happened to not be human and died on-screen, with Cyber Shredder in particular getting a horrifically brutal death scene. It's almost as though the shows producers either specifically made them not human to this end or specifically decided to take advantage of the fact they weren't and considering Utrom Shredder only really died in Turtles Forever (ironically killed by the terminally incompetent 4kids Bebop and Rocksteady in 80s Shredder's Technodrome), which came out well after the show ended, I'm not sure which.

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sajin Komamura from Bleach is notorious for this reason.
      Everyone else gets their injuries censored but his are shown in full

  • @CODENAMECRISISOFFICIAL
    @CODENAMECRISISOFFICIAL 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There will never be another game like Star Force or MMBN. Period. Those games were all i had constant moving different fosterhomes growing up.

  • @MiDuWay
    @MiDuWay ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mega Man Star Force will always be a phenomenal trilogy of games.
    The wait for this video was entirely worth it.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว

      STAR FORCE is outta this world

  • @darrylaz3570
    @darrylaz3570 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I cannot stress enough how much of a masterpiece Starforce 3 was. Red Joker is the one I've played and it quite literally formed my early-middle school childhood. In an era where most people I know moved on to the Vita and 3DS, my broke self stuck with the DS and a couple of legendary games, including this one, countless hours on my belt and despite not truly 100% finishing this game, I had a blast. To say the game resonated so hard with me is an understatement and seeing these videos covering it makes me happy.
    Congratulations Monger for finishing the whole MegaMan RPG saga, and looking forward for your coverage of the story-driven platformer MegaMan games!!👍👍👍

  • @ClampEEGEE
    @ClampEEGEE ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bushido Gemini Wolf was a MENACE on Nintendo Wifi connection back in the day, I still have nightmares about fighting those guys. So I became one of them.

  • @chuchupow
    @chuchupow ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember my dad buying me black ace for a dollar (A GOD DAMN DOLLAR MY GOD) at Walmart in the discount bin on a whim, and I remember loving the game for a very long time. I loved it so much that I bought every other game in the series that came to the west. My purchasing habit of this series was so bad that I would buy them whenever I saw them and now I own like 6 copies of ZerkerxSauran, 3 copies of ZerkerxNinja, 4 copies each of the Starforce 1 trio, and 2 copies of the Starforce 3 duo

  • @noirhelios
    @noirhelios ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Damn, this takes me back. Watching this made me realize how much this game influenced my art and writing too, man I wanna get this game again

    • @NianJKL
      @NianJKL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This must be a really weird question but do you have like a deviant art or anything? I’d love to see art inspired by this.

    • @noirhelios
      @noirhelios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NianJKL I do, account name is the same as my TH-cam username tho admittedly the inspiration isn’t too noticeable, but I did try using a few ideas like Acid Ace’s booster wings

  • @MegaBomberZX
    @MegaBomberZX ปีที่แล้ว +14

    At long last, my favorite Mega Man game of all time is being covered. Seriously SF3 is a game that will always have special place in my heart.

  • @smgofdvld
    @smgofdvld ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I really wish capcom can just release the last 2 collections starforce and legends or maybe an all in one next gen version? with all the games. star force was a good series but always easier imo. I still remember the noise card controversy good times 😅

    • @Rodolphin
      @Rodolphin ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We’ll see. It’s just that the BNLC needs to sell well for SFLC to get a green light

  • @TheLegitAlpha
    @TheLegitAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Rogue Noise has been one of my favorites thanks to the MuBarrier it gave you. It also made up for lack of NFBs through sword fighter cards dealing stupid amounts of damage.

    • @chimuoma390
      @chimuoma390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MuBarrier+QuickGauge+InvisibleSupport=Nigh Invincibility!

  • @internetjerk2839
    @internetjerk2839 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    So I wasn't the only one who thought Heartless was Kalvin's mistress/second wife, sad this series never got the credit it deserved but I think it's for the best it ended here with Geo getting his happy ending like Lan did the idea of outlaw hacker Geo feels like it's trying to hard and bringing in Lan's descendant feels like it's just trying to ride off of memberberries

  • @Megaman.ExE7
    @Megaman.ExE7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Easily one of the best games out there. I still have my OG copy with the manual and the case. Black Ace is around $2-$300 nowadays which is crazy to say.
    I can't recommend this game enough. Great music, great story, great gameplay. A truly wonderful send off to an amazing series.
    God, I just want more Megaman

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      damn, should've bought up all the gamestop copies I saw 5 years ago

    • @Megaman.ExE7
      @Megaman.ExE7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Xeno-The-Wanderer No kidding, to think that all of those copies on shelf could easily be flipped for almost $4-5K easily

  • @raequizzle9713
    @raequizzle9713 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve been really looking forward to this review, Megaman Starforce is one of my favorite video games and favorite stories of all time. The game holds a special place in my heart, thank you for covering this! I hope we see more of Starforce someday, maybe in the form of a legacy collection or elsewhere. I even pulled all the Starforce characters on Dive just to enjoy the characters a bit more. Great job man!

  • @jer_gaming_
    @jer_gaming_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Such great coverage of both of these series!! Thank you for all your hard work towards something so cherished to me growing up

  • @acidlay
    @acidlay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Monger! Thank you so much for shedding light to the Megaman RPG series. MMBN and MMSF was one of my favorite games as a kid and to this day no one seems to do a proper documentary of the series' in respectable fashion. I wish there were more channels like you in YT 💌

  • @KingCanuck2814
    @KingCanuck2814 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for tackling this trilogy! The only megaman games I ever really played, but I adored Geo's story start to finish and I'll always be upset how unknown it is.

  • @pokemonfan1231001
    @pokemonfan1231001 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Star Force franchise means a ton to me especially this game growing up my copy of Red Joker was probably the game I revisited the most and I even still have it sadly it doesn't work the best anymore. This series of videos has been a lot of fun and a great source of nostalgia and as much as I would have loved for SF4 to have come out SF3's ending is something I feel is too perfect for me to ever want a sequel to it. Thanks for bringing some attention to this series Monger.

  • @MidoCounters
    @MidoCounters ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geo just glancing at Crimson Dragon before the final battle, boy that was so good!
    Loved your reviews, entertaining and eloquent. Keep up the good work!

  • @Jose3Nazario
    @Jose3Nazario ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Video!!! All the points that I was hyped for and more, you covered real good. Hats off to you!!!

  • @TDSFounder
    @TDSFounder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the review. It was a blast listening to you go through them all.

  • @grey7268
    @grey7268 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The battle network and Star Force series is the series i love, im really glad to see you make a great review about this games.
    Hope for Star Force Legacy collection coming sooon

    • @thedoctor2099
      @thedoctor2099 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably won't be until at least 2025 but I refuse to give up hope! I'm hoping if the BN legacy collection does well enough that it will show Capcom that there is still so much love for both of these series.

  • @kobehaizel5478
    @kobehaizel5478 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve missed your videos so much and I love this series immensely. Thank you for your hardwork and I look forward to the next video

  • @Urang77
    @Urang77 ปีที่แล้ว

    999.99% worth the wait !!
    I'm soo glad it's finally out ! You did a great job at doing this game justice !
    It is my favourite DS series of all time !! (tightly followed by the Ace Attorney series.)
    I hope the megaman switch collection give people an opportunity to find this gem... Because they are missing something.
    As Geo didn't give up hope multiple time in the series, I won't stop hoping for that sweet sweeeeeet SF4 !
    And btw, that 1:07:19 part, you won't believe how much it pulled on my heartstring. Nicely done !
    Thanks for your hard work !!

  • @Multigameguy35
    @Multigameguy35 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Editing on point, as usual. A lovely send-off for the series.

  • @BinaryDood
    @BinaryDood ปีที่แล้ว +6

    TO better avoid Dread Joker's rapid fire, you have to have your OWN rapid fire to fight his at an impasse. There is a special Giga Chip to make your buster really fast. The result is awesome.

    • @unknownuser494
      @unknownuser494 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think warrior soul is better to use because of you can use another giga card.

    • @BinaryDood
      @BinaryDood ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unknownuser494 yeah is it cooler?

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BinaryDoodit is, but you get an HP bug.

  • @zyro7756
    @zyro7756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably one of my all time favourite megaman games
    I wasn’t there for the live streams but seeing you play this through the archives was great

  • @altrionzero
    @altrionzero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the incredible sf video. Megaman Star Force 3 has become my favourite game after i played it. im hooked with the gameplay, design (like black ace), gimmick, and especially the story where geo got an amazing character development.
    It's kinda bitter sweet for star force series where im really happy to see what happened to geo where he got what he wanted at the end and a happy ending. on the other hand sf supposed to get 3rd anime and 4th game which i found got interesting concept like hacking and lan's descendant that unfortunately got cancelled. hope that sf4 still given a chance one day.

  • @Ryoga5
    @Ryoga5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for making this series of videos.
    You've re-ignited my love for battlenetwork, and even made me want to give Star Force a second real try.
    I played Star Force 1 when it 1st came out, but the 3rd person camera itself made me not want to play it.
    16 years? (jesus christ its been that long?) later I hope I've matured enough to not let that bother me.

  • @RedAceLeo
    @RedAceLeo ปีที่แล้ว

    Megaman Starforce will always been in my personal top 3 series. Not just because of how much I adored them, to be quite honest, I wouldn't have met the people I did in the little xat chatroom of Project-800, meet some of my friends, and my current friend group. Chances are, my hobbies and likes would probably be very very VERY different.
    I really hope we get a Switch Collection of this game, for the sole reason of nostalgia for me, and for me to introduce these games to my current friend group. I remember 100% both Leo, Zerker, and Saurian. And forever being 1 M card away from 100% Black Ace (Damn you noise for randomizing and increasing during v3 fights when I need v2 card)
    Watching the three starforce videos brought back a lot of very very fond memories. So thank you for taking time to play through these games, and giving me an excuse to remember this game again.

  • @RaymondCruz25
    @RaymondCruz25 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Believe it or not, but the Laplace EM entity Solo(Rogue) has is a Lunar Knights Eater Egg since the spaceship the new versions of Django and Sabatha use to go to space is named Laplace. Even in the end, Starforce still has connections to its Crossover

  • @thedoctor2099
    @thedoctor2099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming back almost a year later just to show my love for this game ❤ I remember being so hyped for these games to be localized back in 2008. The new noise system looked amazing, and while I was excited to try the combinations of the different forms, Rogue noise stole my heart due to my love of the character and sword battle chips/cards. I cannot wait for these games to get a re-release, I won't like hunting down all of the cards/programs again but it'll be a fun trip down memory lane

  • @EdomondSanz
    @EdomondSanz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So before watching the video, I wanna share my experience with these games.
    I played Starforce 1 when it came out and I LOVED it. Sadly, I wasn't aware when the second game released and living in Spain I didn't even could play the third installment.
    Then one day I saw your videos from megaman battle network and found out about the Starforce one. And it came to me, all the good times with the game. So I started to find for the games in second hand markets and bought the first and the second. And man, how fun was the first game, better than I remmebered it. Then I played the second and it was so boring for me... But watching your review on it made me realise its good things. So I could get my hands in one copy of the third game and I was so impressed about everything: story, gameplay, characters... I kept getting surprised with all the events.
    And Im so happy I can see now your review on it. Just starting, I realised I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY seeing all the things you explain about the fights xD
    And thank you so much for these videos, you made me reconnect with this saga and I was able to enjoy it

  • @navynarupan8979
    @navynarupan8979 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember loving the 3rd Starforce game back when it first released. So much improvement was made and real effort was shown in the making of the game. And story is criminally better, which is why I felt sad to find out this game sold less. Now with the Battle Network Legacy Collection coming out soon, I hope a Starforce Collection get announced after to give people a chance to play this trilogy of games.

  • @MrLuigix64
    @MrLuigix64 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Closing the Megaman RPG cycle with a High Note, maybe we didnt got Starforce 4 and capcom dont release new megaman games, but what we got right here is worth playing for its story, gameplay and music, and the comunity will keep them from beign forgotten. Great video mog.

  • @GravityLoL
    @GravityLoL ปีที่แล้ว +5

    SF3 was peak. Not only for SF series but personally, for me too. Really great story, good post game, a lot of mechanics and probably the best forms designs for Megaman forms. Black Ace is still somewhere in my mind, impacting my design. And Rouge Noise - bruh, this can be so OP if set right

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว

      LONG LIVE STAR FORCE!!

  • @J-Palm
    @J-Palm ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! I've been waiting for this. Your reviews on the other games were amazing!

  • @rbraunbeck96
    @rbraunbeck96 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Babe wake up, new RPG Monger video

  • @MichaelMacaw
    @MichaelMacaw ปีที่แล้ว

    The original MMBN video is what got me into your uploads and I’m so glad to see you bring this series to a close. I’ve been revisiting every MMBN/SF game on its 15th anniversary and with only two left, it’s been really interesting to see other people’s opinions and thoughts on them, especially Starforce given that it’s generally regarded as not as good as MMBN.
    I’m excited to revisit SF3 after this review!

  • @piepie2965
    @piepie2965 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow i literally just stumbled upon your other starforce videos just a few days ago and was wondering when you would do the 3rd one. Awesome coincidence for me haha. Great video

  • @VarsVerum
    @VarsVerum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having commented on your star force 2 video on how I liked SF2 despite its weird story and random encounters, I wasn’t sure if the hype for SF3 was overrating it or not and man I’m glad it wasn’t. SF3, just like mmbn6 ended things with a bang. I wasn’t a fan of the new battle card system (I knew it was to prevent abusing giga cards but still) but everything else gets a 💯 in my book. The gameplay and story were the best out of the 9 mega man RPG games.
    I just wish we could see starforce 4. It would’ve been amazing to see Geo as a wanted fugitive after he’s spent the previous 3 entries becoming a hero loved by all.

  • @manueljaramillo2520
    @manueljaramillo2520 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man I miss the Starforce series. It'll always be my favorite of the Mega Man spinoffs. Hopefully we do get a collection game for the Switch like Battle Network did.

  • @StarforceCosmowave
    @StarforceCosmowave ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video, making justice to one of the best love letters of MegaMan franchise. StarForce is my childhood and I will never get tired of looking back to it. Thanks Monker. ;)

  • @BrettLane256
    @BrettLane256 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man. Starforce 3: Red Joker was one of my favorite DS games growing up. So glad to see it get the attention it deserves as the penultimate of the formula. I played the entire series in a very wacky order when I first got into them: BN3W, BN4RS, BN5TC, SF3RJ, BN1, SF1P, SF2SxN, BCC, BN2, BN1:OSS, BN6F (I could never find a reasonably priced copy of BN6 back then, so I never actually played it until getting into hacking my 3DS to play OSS); thus my experience is quite different than many I knew at the time. But it also means that I caught onto all the BN4 and 5 callbacks that SF3 made super early on lol. It was a super great experience I wouldn't trade for anything. Thanks again for the trip down memory lane as I prep for the BN collection to come out, and hope more people notice this game.

  • @SILENTANIMELOVER
    @SILENTANIMELOVER ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OH MY GOD!!! EXCELLENT JOB, DUDE!!! I still miss the Star Force series and wish they made 4 to this day. Honestly, MegaMan as a JRPG spinoff series was absolutely fantastic idea. I really hope Capcom does another one again for the Blue Bomber. If they won't make another platformer for the main series, then the Battle Network and Star Force games are prime examples on how to keep the franchise going into the future.

    • @maxleon61702
      @maxleon61702 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or alternatively, just use bits of Star Force 4's original concepts to everything else...

  • @RedRoninGM
    @RedRoninGM ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I’m really surprised that SF3 didn’t sell well. With shitty websites like IGN, etc, it’s no surprise that it has gotten bad reviews. That story was such a great piece to explore, and the character development was on point.

    • @chimuoma390
      @chimuoma390 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Fires The DreadLazer At IGN*This Game Was A Masterpiece!How Dare You Blaspheme The Noise God!Now You Will DIE!!!!!!!!

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ik. this game is just a gem.

    • @tylerloan6604
      @tylerloan6604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was almost no marketing for the US release so nobody even knew about it

  • @Magicdfox
    @Magicdfox ปีที่แล้ว

    god what a fun series and a great game, hearing that theme at the end always gets me pumped. great video!

  • @EduSolsa
    @EduSolsa ปีที่แล้ว

    It was awesome watch this restropective. Thanks for talking about those games.

  • @richardx1157
    @richardx1157 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you gave these series a chance in the spotlight, I loved these games and I'll make sure to get the battle network collection and possible Starforce collection .
    Also, I hope you are not burned out after the X marathon, the Zero series are pretty amazing games, and you should totally check them out.

  • @juniormoore773
    @juniormoore773 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate this video, it brought back a lot of great memories playing through all the battle network series and starforce series. Yeah it's really sad that the series ended, and I really wanted to play starforce 4 if that came to light, but I hope the legacy collection gives a great showing and show capcom that these series are in demand

  • @tenjiw5
    @tenjiw5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was so hype for this video to drop I'm glad you share very similar sentiments. My experiences had no friends and abusing rogue noise. The only thing I didn't see you talk about is the silver stars but that's pretty much it extremely comprehensive and fantastic video my man.

  • @ReedBariumfox
    @ReedBariumfox ปีที่แล้ว +6

    While it is something present on all the StarForce saga, 3 really brought out the dynamic between Geo and Mega when it allowed Mega to interact more naturally to everyone else on the cast, comparing this to the fact both Lan and Megaman were extremely interchangeable in matters of interaction and dynamic, with a very thin layer of "responsible sibling vs lazy sibling".

    • @MrKlausbaudelaire
      @MrKlausbaudelaire ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Although one thing straight out the bat they stablished with Geo + Omega compared to Lan + Megaman was the balance of "functional braincells". When binge-playing some of battle Network, I noticed how Lan is IRREDEEMABLY STUPID! Like holy shit that kid could read a dictionary and not get past the letter A xD Megaman.exe have to pretty much explain him how to BREATHE. Geo on the other hand is the actual genius, although emotionaly weak, where Omega-xis is hardheaded, he is no stupid either, being more expert in the EM stuff and lacking in human knowledge, so Geo and Omega fix each other's flaws perfectly! Without Megaman.Exe Lan wouldn't make past the front door of his house ¬¬

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MrKlausbaudelairesame.
      I honestly dont know why people prefer Lan and EXE.

  • @demianurrutia3946
    @demianurrutia3946 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was just very precise on how to analize the very best of the star force saga, with all his ups and downs making it one of the best megaman games I've ever experienced, thank you so much for bringing some old memories from this game and putting in word things that I knew this game had but just couldn't explain them myself, one of the first game I complete 100% and still wanted more and more content from it, sadly it was the end of a very understimated saga, and all the burn out from the magaman franchise made this game sell pretty bad, but for those who play it at his time was just such an entertaining experience making a plot very well written for the past standars we had, over all its my personal favorite game from the saga, and it easily competes with the very best BN games in my opinion, loved the video so much!

  • @ShadeNightwolf
    @ShadeNightwolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad you gave this series the attention and love it so desperately needs! I cannot wait for the Battle Network Collection.
    I do want Capcom to show Mega Man some more love, and give the fans a new iteration of the Blue Bomber! A new Mega Man RPG series with new characters and new powers (maybe start pulling from the X Series for the powers/forms)?

  • @calidee847
    @calidee847 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Crab Rave video in the back during Cancer form has me deceased. Also the clip of the spider nuke.🤣🤣 Considering how we could have gotten a continuation of Solo's development with the last teaser from the postgame in SF4 hurts me. There was a bunch set up in 3 that could have been explored more. I had fanfic plans and everything.

  • @Ksanthecat
    @Ksanthecat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    54:48
    Crimson Dragon: *_Play's shooting star._*
    Me: Time to cry.

  • @TwilightKeon
    @TwilightKeon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am now deeply considering getting this game series thanks to your videos. I initially avoided it when I was younger but now...I think I like change ~

  • @omegazero6082
    @omegazero6082 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Solo's wizard came from the very last remnants of Mu. When he was defeated, the remains created one last FM body, this one being Solo's now wizard.

  • @Insanity1245
    @Insanity1245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ending with the opening theme for StarForce legit brought a tear to my eye, I have nothing but nostalgia for StarForce dragon. It was the only MegaMan RPG that grasped me and I still play the game from time to time, especially now waiting for battle network legacy collection. I'm super hopeful this series also gets a collection

  • @zappky9408
    @zappky9408 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Playing Megaman Starforce series during my Childhood felt really phenomenal. It motivates me to socialise with people around me and turn my life around.

  • @TrippyStack
    @TrippyStack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I remember getting my 3DS and being excited about the prospect of a new RPG series for the new handheld. I still cry.

  • @thomasc9248
    @thomasc9248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:04:10 I live in Europe. I remember being 14y old and was hyped that SF3 was announced, only to be disappointed to know that it isn't localized in EU. Well, I pirated it, but I always felt bad, because I wanted the series to continue and would have spent money to get both games.
    Also, The reviews are hilarious, because they don't make any sense. Like, the music was godlike in this game.

  • @Dudeman23rd
    @Dudeman23rd ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had some sort of long, deep comment to really let you know how impressed and happy I am with this series, but...can't think of anything! Sooooooo...very very good job on all of this, and glad to hear you've officially joined the Mega Cult (known in Japan as the Rockcult)!

  • @LivingGuy484
    @LivingGuy484 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this video since I found your Starforce 1 Video

  • @FrozenShepard
    @FrozenShepard ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think my only personal issue with SF3 was that Harp Note was kind of just there for the whole game. There is no boss fight with her optional or otherwise, her Battlecard doesn't appear anywhere not even as illegal data and she didn't have a noise form despite all the other FMians getting one. Sonia got some good character moments, but Harp Note was kind of just left out of all the fun.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว

      same, i kinda wished we gotten her battle card at least.

  • @josephkroll5517
    @josephkroll5517 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm still hoping for a Starforce/Legends Legacy Collection combo pack.

  • @bigfan10-gaming79
    @bigfan10-gaming79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spent most of my Highschool Years hunting down Starforce 3, I found Pegasus and Zerker X Saurian while looking and then last week I finally found two copies of Black Ace in Moncton, and the game has been wonderful

  • @backlogrob8358
    @backlogrob8358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I wanna replay everything BN and SF related. I love your videos, dude! Can't wait to see what's next!

  • @Hc2p3n4t4rp
    @Hc2p3n4t4rp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Crimson Dragon, the Red Shooting Star (in Japanese its Akai Ryuusei, ehich is Shooting Star)
    VS
    The Blue Bomber, Shooting Star Megaman (in Japanese thats his actualy title and name, Ryuusei no Rockman, also what he says when he EM Wave Change is that)
    also, the Sonia Strumm/Hibiki Misora song is basically a love declaration to Geo Stelar/Hoshikawa Subaru

  • @ublademan
    @ublademan ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It does my heart good to see Starforce get the love it deserves, even after all this time. With the news of the Battle Network legacy collection coming next year, there might even be a smidgen of hope that we'll see a re-release of Starforce in the future.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes give me geo back.

  • @KaminGetIt
    @KaminGetIt ปีที่แล้ว

    sweet!!! Thank you for covering this gem of a game, i hope we get a collection for starforce eventually

  • @fusionxtras
    @fusionxtras ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Man i remember MMSF3 one of the most memorable final bosses where you had to end it with the ultimate, black ace definitely had the cool factor being just one attack obliterating a black hole. Red Gia Eraser was cool but it would have been better as something from the first 2 SF games, should have thrown a sun down like a spirit bomb imo.

  • @enormastits9332
    @enormastits9332 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally watched this video after finishing sf 3 and is it weird i got really emotional at 1:07:19 it's just that megaman star force pegasus is a beloved childhood game of mine and getting to finish black ace almost 10 years later really made me look back and think of the fond memories i had with my metallic rose ds lite.... welp time to replay sf 1 with the dx patch because you really motivated me to revisit it :)
    thank you for making these videos reminding me how great of a series star force is! and here's hoping for a star force legacy collection because if battle network has one sf totally deserves it too!!

  • @timelessmoron
    @timelessmoron ปีที่แล้ว

    This mad lad finally oploads the video the day I decide to subscribe and then TH-cam doesn’t give me the notification and it’s left to Reddit to let me know 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @thedoctor2099
    @thedoctor2099 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we ever see a legacy collection of these games I'd love to see things like the SSS added into since it was one of those things that was never localized. My go to was usually Rogue noise, so it would be cool to use some the other NFBB with that form. The noise waves were so fun too, I still remember how fun it was exploring the post game zones.

  • @MrIcenice44
    @MrIcenice44 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m excited to see so many people making long form reviews

  • @dieheart98
    @dieheart98 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impeccable timing with this video, I actually bought Black Ace again recently and played through it. When I was younger, I played through all 3 versions (Leo, Zerker/Saurian, Red Joker), and its still one of my favorite series to date.
    I just wish I had brothers to fully experience the game again, still a great experience though

  • @wall3st368
    @wall3st368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesss, been waiting for this video for so loong

  • @StigmaKRL
    @StigmaKRL ปีที่แล้ว

    idk if anyone noticed this before, but Geo's poses on the two cover are reminiscent of Hub's poses on MMBN6's covers
    but the version exclusive forms' passive abilities are on the opposite cover (i.e. Black Ace and F.Beast Megaman.exe both having Air Shoes and Floatshoes, but Geo's pose on BA's cover is the same as Hub's on Gregar's cover, and vice versa)

  • @Jo-Jo346
    @Jo-Jo346 ปีที่แล้ว

    STAAAAR FOOOOORCE!! D;
    Man these rpg's were such a trip. I will cherish them always. Congrats on making it to this point and I hope things go well in the future!

  • @gabrielramos2788
    @gabrielramos2788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still remember my first playthrough of this game. I'm not a native english speaker, and had the game in english, of course, so it was a little hard to understand some stuff for me at the time. But most importantly, I picked without much thoutgh the item to rescue on the water, and got Luna's, so I got Lunas dialogue scene, understanding half of it, and then her death.. damn, that took me by surprise really.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    25:48 Huh, now I kind of wonder how Omega would get along with Vice from Kamen Rider Revice. They have a lot in common.

  • @X1stence
    @X1stence ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as usual, but the fact that the series is over is very bittersweet. Thanks for your efforts, Monger

  • @docbaker3333
    @docbaker3333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh God My Childhood thank you for making this I haven't beaten My copy of red joker but I was very close to and I have very fond memories of it.