Brother thank you for continuing to experiment with Paul Pantone‘s invention. I had created a go fund me and raised about $2000 to built a moped with a Geet reactor and 50 cc engine back in 2015 with off-the-shelf parts and a little collaborating with my fabricator friend. I was able to get the bike to run on the fumes of a blend of vegetable oil and gasoline. I have some video of me riding it though China Camp state park in the north SF bay i might upload.
seeing a lot of plasma reformer and all these other new names come up for people doing the geet generator on youtube recently. glad you gave the man credit.
Feed the Geet with another Geet, also dissimilar metals will increase the effects.. also add 30% water to the gasoline and some soap to make it homogeneous, great video !
I saw this effect on my welded GEET i made... i used 316SS welding rods.. my theory is the welding introduced some frequencies into the assembly...ive been playing with JCs these days.
I converted a lawnmower 25 years ago. A fuel bubbler and a geet reactor. It ran good, but the most interesting thing is when I ran the exhaust in as the fresh air into the bubbler. It kept running in a closed loop. A little rougher but it kept going until I shut it off.
Thank you for share! Im making my own geet proccesor. In a conference of geet one advice was no retrofit the gas with the exhaust. Its more efficient the cold vapor when enter to the hot chamber. Im going to make my own test and share with you. Nice Job!
What temperatures are 'cold' vapors? The flame arrestor just before the reactor on mine is around 80˚F. It's not hot to the touch. I have about 140˚-160˚ going into my vapor carb, but it takes that much heat to vaporize all the fuel, then leaving at 80˚-90˚ at it's best. Then I can still get some of it condensing in the tube on the way the GEET. Thanks for commenting. Please share results, and some videos would be good.
Galvanized is better than normal for your rod, I recommend using washers welded on to the ends to tighten the gas pull past the rod. Oh, rods take in 600 hours to FULLY break in. Sky, Paul's son.
So, if the washers are larger than Rod, how does the gas get close to the smaller rod? Is it because it gets trapped in between the two washers longer. I could be wrong, maybe the turbulence is negligible. Galvanized? Is that because it's burning off? I'd be a little worried if the coating in gas form came out the exhaust chemical wise if it didn't break down. 600 hours for just galvanized or for the washers version? Paul said 32min? Thanks :)
One claim that I heard to show that a GEET reaction is taking place, is when the reactor rod is showing that special magnetic characteristic. On my first rod, I think that happened in 20 minutes.
@@doubleMinnovations I had the magnetic effect too but I never timed it so I'm not sure on the minutes but it is still on that rod many years later. However, I wonder what he meant by FULLY🤔
Yes, it's hotter with the GEET, than without. I'm not sure if it's because there's more exhaust back pressure, or that it's running too lean. I'm starting to think because it's too lean of a mixture. I'm getting that magnetic signature on the fuel rod, but there's no evidence that it's breaking down the gasoline to some 'geet gas' that is super efficient... But it is interesting.
@@doubleMinnovations So far the evidence is indicating that most of any real benefit from GEET has actually been due to improved fuel vaporization rather than "plasma," magnetism, or "GEET gas." I am familiar with the magnetic characteristics acquired by the GEET rod, and remain not quite ready to completely dismiss its relevance to performance. In your previous video you noted how either the standard carb's performance improved or the Down Wick carb's performance diminished at higher load. Seems relevant to acquire 1500W data for the Down Wick w/GEET too...
It seemed to me that the engine was running hotter with the GEET. I think it was because of an increase in exhaust back pressure, or maybe leaning it out too much. I didn't want to push it. A bigger outer pipe of the reactor may be needed. I started with a 3/4" outer pipe GEET, and that restricted it to much, so went to 1"
Hello. I attended one of Paul Pantone's last "classes" not too long before he passed away and still have my notes. There were several days of "lectures." While I paid a fee for that experience, it did not make me a "true believer." Having other priorities has kept me from experimenting yet myself, and I try to keep an open, but empirical, mind. If you want to further test whether the magnetic properties acquired by the metal rod can actually be made to translate into improved efficiency, I am willing to share specifics, especially concerning the rod. I see your website isn't up, is there another way for a member of the pubic to initiate direct messaging with you?
Paul's youngest son sky here. He was weird, I'll be the first to admit it, but I have made my own version that runs on arial hydrocarbons. For 11 years now it's never shut down, my car runs 24/7. The air it takes in is normal air, full of impurities. The waste coming out, I choose (matter combination unit/proton chamber) it's tuned to oxygen, but I can change it. Also the larger a waste product, the lower the excess radiation. Again the radiation is not alpha gama or beta. Just some food for thought on what this is capable of from the offspring of the man who made it.
@@doomedfromthesmart @doomedfromthesmart So you can run it on just air? That would be awesome 👀. So you call the reaction chamber the proton chamber and you can choose what comes out 👀. I wish I had tips on things it could do :)
@@doubleMinnovations With 750W load the standard carb averaged 1.57 min, the Down Wick averaged 2.34, min, and the Down Wick w/Geet averaged 2.54 min-- is this correct?
I built 7 different setups of this machine a long time ago, and it ended up in a non practical machine with low power en a lot of liquid waste. The reason why you get Amy gain is that you run it lean on hot gasses that are already partially expanded. No significant power can be extracted from the engine. Try it. You get 20% power if you're lucky 😅 I dare everybody to a challenge to do a test under load ! en see what gain one can get in kw/h for 1 kg of fuel
Check out Malcom Bendall’s ‘thunderstorm generator’ , it’s like a upgraded Geet device. There is even a dyi build on Alchemical Science TH-cam channel… happy building
@@doubleMinnovationsyou are only going to get maximum increases if you are recycling the exhaust gases - and using 80% water too. Closed loop system. Maybe 70% increase if you are lucky
Anyway to actually test gasoline/fuel used before and after the GEET? Like a load test for one hour and measure how much actual petroleum was used, before and after? I havnt seen a good test anywhere…
If you watch the videos I have on the vapor carb, you can see the fuel comparison tests of before and after the vapor carb. The GEET was something I added on after to try ti see if I could improve beyond that. So if you watch all the videos with this generator, you could see before and after the GEET.
@@doubleMinnovations will do!! I really applaud that you are publicly experimenting with the GEET stuff. I want to do my own experiments too to see if it true… with all the conspiracy hoopla going around and peoples general tendency to accept the status quo I’m afraid even if the GEET tech works as claimed that we as a society are throwing away our potential.
I wanted to check out things for myself too. Most of the videos out there with elaborate GEET claims are deceptive, maybe just out of ignorance. -talking about the ones with bubblers where they mix different liquids with some gasoline. The lighter gas evaporates out first, and what makes the engine run. In a very short time the lighter gas molecules are gone, and the engine stops, and you're left with a jar of useless sludge. In my experiments I did confirm that there is a unique magnetic property developed in the GEET rod, (See video) and a small percent gain of run time over that of my 'Down Wick' vapor carb. No indication of any 'GEET' gas, that can give a 700-800% gain like claims made. Without an exhaust gas analyzer I can't claim anything more, but it seemed to be very clean exhaust.
I've been studying vapor carbs and then GEET reactors for a long time, and you should be aware that the original Pogue vapor carburetor uses a hot vapor injection system, and this is the fundamental requirement for high efficiency and good performance. It's precisely because the vapor is injected under pressure that allows it to accelerate the engine under demand just like common modern fuel injection. Pogue used a vacuum powered reciprocating piston which worked similarly to a diaphragm pump in pressurizing the vapor for injection into the intake. Most vapor carb systems rely entirely on the passive use of vacuum for their effect, but the problem with this is that vacuum drops considerably when the throttle plate is opened to let more air in for acceleration. So just when you need more vacuum to make more vapor to accelerate, you get the opposite. This is equally true with the typical GEET reactor system, which only functions under a high vacuum. I think the solution for do it yourself high efficiency using GEET is to use the air conditioning pump provided on most engines as the source of vacuum to operate the reactor, instead of engine vacuum. The resulting dry vapor made in the reactor will be pressurized coming out of the other side of the AC pump. Then there needs to be a small air compressor tank to hold the vapor under pressure for a simple after market fuel injector controlled by a Throttle Position Sensor, which injects the vapor into the intake manifold. A simple control circuit could cycle the AC pump on and off with the air compressor's pressure switch, keeping the tank topped up but not over producing the vapor. And you have a reserve for cold starts as well.
The way I learned about the GEET, was by doing a search on TH-cam and Google, then reading and watching. I described it the best I could on here. Dan Easton's videos are probably the best I found on TH-cam. Hope that helps.
I've built 7 different setups en found only thay its hurting the power en efficiency on the engine do to Low fill factor em that is bad for the effective compression ratio. The Geet system was a scam al along. i should have seen this earlier 😅
I did the best I could, and was straight honest with the results. No big improvement, and I think it was starting to get too lean. I did get the weird magnetic signature on the rod though...
@doubleMinnovations I highly appreciate your honesty. You're the first one I've seen doing real stuff, the geet, and show it, I dare everybody to add a load on the engine as literally nobody ever shows a load ! In my experience, one is lucky to get 20 to 30 % of the rated power. It is partly because of the heat, volume of the vapour, and low volumetric efficiency . It runs longer because it's probably running at 17 or 18 to 1 air/fuel, which is about 45% leaner than stock (12 to 1) . the mag epic signature is nothing special its because of the way the steel is heated and cooled (thermal polarisation) it happens to al steel if heated to the( perlitic region ) . Greetings 🙏 I wil subscribe to see more of you work in the future
Heat from the exhaust and the cold from fuel vapor and residual droplets is what makes the magic it creates plasma and a great amount of (static?) electric discharge explaining the magnetic effect the temperature difference very high also the gain from GEET is economic ,coming from the usage of alternative "fuels" you made the test without them cool setup BTW 👍
I tried several different type of liquids that were suppose to be fuels for a GEET, but lost efficiency added them. I didn't try alcohol, but I'm sure that would work.
@@doubleMinnovations each molecule needs its own rod. The larger the rod the larger the molecule. Propane needs a half inch rod to operate the best. Used oil needs a 7 inch to break the molecule chains. Unless, you somehow find a way to say use ball style chains that freely grow or shrink based off it's current need. It's all mag controlled inside anyway. Give it some waaaaggggel room. It'll run better on junk. I can run off urine to pure mercury with no issues no.
I tried different sized rods. I put a bubbler in parallel with my vapor carb so I could introduce vapors from water, sugar water, or vinegar. -(wanted to try something cheaper than gasoline) While I could put these vapors through the engine, and it ran; I honestly couldn't say it was running on them, because the engine lost efficiency then. So I most be doing something wrong. Dan Easton seems to be best experimenter with the GEET that I seen. He claimed and demonstrated that he could increase run time by 25-30% over standard carb with his GEET on a Honda 6hp generator. I demonstrated that could get a 48% increase in run time over the standard carb with just my down wick vapor carb on this Honda 8hp. generator. The GEET kicked it up a little higher. But I an only do that with gasoline.
@@doomedfromthesmart Hi Sky, saw your expert comments and have a GEET system running all year. Numerous different bubblers. Be great to speak to you about your comment "Urine to pure mercury",. Would like to fine tune my bubblers for larger scale engines and help with the development. Thank you.
I don't understand what you mean. Neither the reactor pipe, or the rod had magnetic poles to them before. After, the reactor rod picked up that magnetic property that indicates that it should be producing 'GEET' gas. (see the video of the rod). Could you explain more of what you mean?
Brother thank you for continuing to experiment with Paul Pantone‘s invention. I had created a go fund me and raised about $2000 to built a moped with a Geet reactor and 50 cc engine back in 2015 with off-the-shelf parts and a little collaborating with my fabricator friend. I was able to get the bike to run on the fumes of a blend of vegetable oil and gasoline. I have some video of me riding it though China Camp state park in the north SF bay i might upload.
seeing a lot of plasma reformer and all these other new names come up for people doing the geet generator on youtube recently. glad you gave the man credit.
Feed the Geet with another Geet, also dissimilar metals will increase the effects.. also add 30% water to the gasoline and some soap to make it homogeneous, great video !
I saw this effect on my welded GEET i made... i used 316SS welding rods.. my theory is the welding introduced some frequencies into the assembly...ive been playing with JCs these days.
I converted a lawnmower 25 years ago. A fuel bubbler and a geet reactor. It ran good, but the most interesting thing is when I ran the exhaust in as the fresh air into the bubbler. It kept running in a closed loop. A little rougher but it kept going until I shut it off.
Thank you for these videos. Please keep up your experiments. They’re great.
Thank you for share! Im making my own geet proccesor. In a conference of geet one advice was no retrofit the gas with the exhaust. Its more efficient the cold vapor when enter to the hot chamber. Im going to make my own test and share with you. Nice Job!
What temperatures are 'cold' vapors? The flame arrestor just before the reactor on mine is around 80˚F. It's not hot to the touch. I have about 140˚-160˚ going into my vapor carb, but it takes that much heat to vaporize all the fuel, then leaving at 80˚-90˚ at it's best. Then I can still get some of it condensing in the tube on the way the GEET.
Thanks for commenting. Please share results, and some videos would be good.
Galvanized is better than normal for your rod, I recommend using washers welded on to the ends to tighten the gas pull past the rod. Oh, rods take in 600 hours to FULLY break in.
Sky, Paul's son.
So, if the washers are larger than Rod, how does the gas get close to the smaller rod? Is it because it gets trapped in between the two washers longer. I could be wrong, maybe the turbulence is negligible.
Galvanized? Is that because it's burning off? I'd be a little worried if the coating in gas form came out the exhaust chemical wise if it didn't break down.
600 hours for just galvanized or for the washers version? Paul said 32min?
Thanks :)
One claim that I heard to show that a GEET reaction is taking place, is when the reactor rod is showing that special magnetic characteristic. On my first rod, I think that happened in 20 minutes.
@@doubleMinnovations I had the magnetic effect too but I never timed it so I'm not sure on the minutes but it is still on that rod many years later. However, I wonder what he meant by FULLY🤔
Very nice video DMI. Job well done fella.
Thanks! Was always curious about this.
Very interesting....really hot at the top of the Geet chamber....thanks for sharing.
Yes, it's hotter with the GEET, than without. I'm not sure if it's because there's more exhaust back pressure, or that it's running too lean. I'm starting to think because it's too lean of a mixture. I'm getting that magnetic signature on the fuel rod, but there's no evidence that it's breaking down the gasoline to some 'geet gas' that is super efficient... But it is interesting.
@@doubleMinnovations So far the evidence is indicating that most of any real benefit from GEET has actually been due to improved fuel vaporization rather than "plasma," magnetism, or "GEET gas." I am familiar with the magnetic characteristics acquired by the GEET rod, and remain not quite ready to completely dismiss its relevance to performance. In your previous video you noted how either the standard carb's performance improved or the Down Wick carb's performance diminished at higher load. Seems relevant to acquire 1500W data for the Down Wick w/GEET too...
It seemed to me that the engine was running hotter with the GEET. I think it was because of an increase in exhaust back pressure, or maybe leaning it out too much. I didn't want to push it. A bigger outer pipe of the reactor may be needed. I started with a 3/4" outer pipe GEET, and that restricted it to much, so went to 1"
Hello. I attended one of Paul Pantone's last "classes" not too long before he passed away and still have my notes. There were several days of "lectures." While I paid a fee for that experience, it did not make me a "true believer." Having other priorities has kept me from experimenting yet myself, and I try to keep an open, but empirical, mind. If you want to further test whether the magnetic properties acquired by the metal rod can actually be made to translate into improved efficiency, I am willing to share specifics, especially concerning the rod. I see your website isn't up, is there another way for a member of the pubic to initiate direct messaging with you?
You can email me at "doubleminnovations@yahoo.com". Thanks.
Which class? I did March 2012.
Paul's youngest son sky here. He was weird, I'll be the first to admit it, but I have made my own version that runs on arial hydrocarbons. For 11 years now it's never shut down, my car runs 24/7. The air it takes in is normal air, full of impurities. The waste coming out, I choose (matter combination unit/proton chamber) it's tuned to oxygen, but I can change it. Also the larger a waste product, the lower the excess radiation. Again the radiation is not alpha gama or beta. Just some food for thought on what this is capable of from the offspring of the man who made it.
So sorry he charged for classes. That's honestly what made me hate him and David.
@@doomedfromthesmart @doomedfromthesmart So you can run it on just air? That would be awesome 👀. So you call the reaction chamber the proton chamber and you can choose what comes out 👀. I wish I had tips on things it could do :)
did you say you got a 61% longer run time?? That's amazing!!
Yes, this attained a little more run time than the Down Wick vapor carb alone, -(that was 48% gain over the standard carb.)
@@doubleMinnovations Just like the accurate numbers you showed us all on TH-cam. Job well done fellas.
@@doubleMinnovations With 750W load the standard carb averaged 1.57 min, the Down Wick averaged 2.34, min, and the Down Wick w/Geet averaged 2.54 min-- is this correct?
Yes, that's what I have in my notes.
I built 7 different setups of this machine a long time ago, and it ended up in a non practical machine with low power en a lot of liquid waste. The reason why you get Amy gain is that you run it lean on hot gasses that are already partially expanded. No significant power can be extracted from the engine. Try it. You get 20% power if you're lucky 😅 I dare everybody to a challenge to do a test under load ! en see what gain one can get in kw/h for 1 kg of fuel
Check out Malcom Bendall’s ‘thunderstorm generator’ , it’s like a upgraded Geet device. There is even a dyi build on Alchemical Science TH-cam channel… happy building
Turn the Rod on a lathe - like i did, and you will see differences! It needs 2hrs of burn in time too.
How much better was your GEET than the factory carburetor?
@@doubleMinnovationsyou are only going to get maximum increases if you are recycling the exhaust gases - and using 80% water too. Closed loop system. Maybe 70% increase if you are lucky
Do you have any videos or pics of your setup
Anyway to actually test gasoline/fuel used before and after the GEET? Like a load test for one hour and measure how much actual petroleum was used, before and after? I havnt seen a good test anywhere…
If you watch the videos I have on the vapor carb, you can see the fuel comparison tests of before and after the vapor carb. The GEET was something I added on after to try ti see if I could improve beyond that. So if you watch all the videos with this generator, you could see before and after the GEET.
@@doubleMinnovations will do!!
I really applaud that you are publicly experimenting with the GEET stuff. I want to do my own experiments too to see if it true… with all the conspiracy hoopla going around and peoples general tendency to accept the status quo I’m afraid even if the GEET tech works as claimed that we as a society are throwing away our potential.
I wanted to check out things for myself too. Most of the videos out there with elaborate GEET claims are deceptive, maybe just out of ignorance. -talking about the ones with bubblers where they mix different liquids with some gasoline. The lighter gas evaporates out first, and what makes the engine run. In a very short time the lighter gas molecules are gone, and the engine stops, and you're left with a jar of useless sludge.
In my experiments I did confirm that there is a unique magnetic property developed in the GEET rod, (See video) and a small percent gain of run time over that of my 'Down Wick' vapor carb. No indication of any 'GEET' gas, that can give a 700-800% gain like claims made.
Without an exhaust gas analyzer I can't claim anything more, but it seemed to be very clean exhaust.
61% ??? 12 seconds extra on 30ml?
Great vid! Keep it up.
Thanks!
I've been studying vapor carbs and then GEET reactors for a long time, and you should be aware that the original Pogue vapor carburetor uses a hot vapor injection system, and this is the fundamental requirement for high efficiency and good performance. It's precisely because the vapor is injected under pressure that allows it to accelerate the engine under demand just like common modern fuel injection. Pogue used a vacuum powered reciprocating piston which worked similarly to a diaphragm pump in pressurizing the vapor for injection into the intake. Most vapor carb systems rely entirely on the passive use of vacuum for their effect, but the problem with this is that vacuum drops considerably when the throttle plate is opened to let more air in for acceleration. So just when you need more vacuum to make more vapor to accelerate, you get the opposite. This is equally true with the typical GEET reactor system, which only functions under a high vacuum. I think the solution for do it yourself high efficiency using GEET is to use the air conditioning pump provided on most engines as the source of vacuum to operate the reactor, instead of engine vacuum. The resulting dry vapor made in the reactor will be pressurized coming out of the other side of the AC pump. Then there needs to be a small air compressor tank to hold the vapor under pressure for a simple after market fuel injector controlled by a Throttle Position Sensor, which injects the vapor into the intake manifold. A simple control circuit could cycle the AC pump on and off with the air compressor's pressure switch, keeping the tank topped up but not over producing the vapor. And you have a reserve for cold starts as well.
Thanks for commenting!
I watched this guys entire series years ago. www.youtube.com/@indianchief741 . Nice to see another crack at it!
Thanks for the info.
Sir I am interested to learn GEET technology.please reply
The way I learned about the GEET, was by doing a search on TH-cam and Google, then reading and watching. I described it the best I could on here. Dan Easton's videos are probably the best I found on TH-cam. Hope that helps.
7:49 denic?
Identical?
I've built 7 different setups en found only thay its hurting the power en efficiency on the engine do to Low fill factor em that is bad for the effective compression ratio. The Geet system was a scam al along. i should have seen this earlier 😅
I did the best I could, and was straight honest with the results. No big improvement, and I think it was starting to get too lean. I did get the weird magnetic signature on the rod though...
@doubleMinnovations I highly appreciate your honesty. You're the first one I've seen doing real stuff, the geet, and show it, I dare everybody to add a load on the engine as literally nobody ever shows a load ! In my experience, one is lucky to get 20 to 30 % of the rated power. It is partly because of the heat, volume of the vapour, and low volumetric efficiency . It runs longer because it's probably running at 17 or 18 to 1 air/fuel, which is about 45% leaner than stock (12 to 1) .
the mag epic signature is nothing special its because of the way the steel is heated and cooled (thermal polarisation) it happens to al steel if heated to the( perlitic region ) . Greetings 🙏 I wil subscribe to see more of you work in the future
9:33. Lid. Nice
Heat from the exhaust and the cold from fuel vapor and residual droplets is what makes the magic
it creates plasma and a great amount of (static?) electric discharge explaining the magnetic effect
the temperature difference very high
also the gain from GEET is economic ,coming from the usage of alternative "fuels"
you made the test without them
cool setup BTW 👍
I tried several different type of liquids that were suppose to be fuels for a GEET, but lost efficiency added them. I didn't try alcohol, but I'm sure that would work.
@@doubleMinnovations each molecule needs its own rod. The larger the rod the larger the molecule. Propane needs a half inch rod to operate the best. Used oil needs a 7 inch to break the molecule chains. Unless, you somehow find a way to say use ball style chains that freely grow or shrink based off it's current need. It's all mag controlled inside anyway. Give it some waaaaggggel room. It'll run better on junk. I can run off urine to pure mercury with no issues no.
I tried different sized rods. I put a bubbler in parallel with my vapor carb so I could introduce vapors from water, sugar water, or vinegar. -(wanted to try something cheaper than gasoline) While I could put these vapors through the engine, and it ran; I honestly couldn't say it was running on them, because the engine lost efficiency then. So I most be doing something wrong.
Dan Easton seems to be best experimenter with the GEET that I seen. He claimed and demonstrated that he could increase run time by 25-30% over standard carb with his GEET on a Honda 6hp generator.
I demonstrated that could get a 48% increase in run time over the standard carb with just my down wick vapor carb on this Honda 8hp. generator. The GEET kicked it up a little higher.
But I an only do that with gasoline.
Imagine now reusing the heat of the exhaust with a steam engine or a turbine ,
the power wasted is mind boggling @@doubleMinnovations
@@doomedfromthesmart Hi Sky, saw your expert comments and have a GEET system running all year. Numerous different bubblers. Be great to speak to you about your comment "Urine to pure mercury",. Would like to fine tune my bubblers for larger scale engines and help with the development. Thank you.
10:42
Set magnets here
Uh-boat?? Uh-boot?
1:46
1:40 lately right
is your website still open?
Not right now. The site cost jumped up, and there isn't enough activity to pay for the site to come out even. Trying to think of something else.
I noticed he hasn’t reversed the poles on the pipe and metal rod. Or else it won’t work.
I don't understand what you mean. Neither the reactor pipe, or the rod had magnetic poles to them before. After, the reactor rod picked up that magnetic property that indicates that it should be producing 'GEET' gas. (see the video of the rod). Could you explain more of what you mean?
Make A Geet powered Genset on A Stylish trailer to Charge the TESLA !
14:54. Implosion ?? 14:56
25 year ago 1988 ok that is proof of this vid age
2013 ??
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