How to use a hollow wall anchor setting tool
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- Hollow wall anchors such as rawlplug intersets or Mollys can sometimes be installed without using the special setting tool, but in drywall that is not plastered the setting tool is essential. The cost of the hollow wall anchor setting tool is about £8 to £20 depending on which one you buy. fave.co/1PLlTLt
You can use these without the setting tool on some walls- • How to use hollow wall...
Thanks for getting to the point and not fussing about w random chat. The best vid tutorial.
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Thanks for this. Finally I realise theres a tool to do this, after countless wasted hollow wall anchors and useless holes in my walls ! Great video and great channel. Cheers
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We were advised to buy the setting tool with the fixings but it had no instructions, a quick Google bought up your video & it explained it perfectly - thank you!
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Appreciate the clear and direct explanation. I've been using plastic anchors for my curtain rod and they don't support it well. I finally decided the metal ones were the way to go but the instructions that came with my tool were unclear: 1 drill a hole, 2 pound in the anchor with a hammer, 3 remove the screw, 4 remove the screw (?? Isn't it already removed?). I tried a few things, including looking for a manufacturer video and was about to give up, but then i found yours and it suddenly made sense. I've now installed the curtain rod and it actually feels solid, with 2 metal anchors firmly in place.
“The correct size hole” lol.
The Screwfix ones of these come with zero instructions sadly. I found out from reviews that the M4 ones use an 8mm drill, and the M5 use 10mm. Mines also a two stage trigger so I went all out with the two pulls and it’s solid just for a hanging mirror. Many thanks for the basics.
Unfortunately, different manufacturers require different sized holes, which is why I could not specify the hole size in the video 👍
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Thank you. I seen this product a year ago and bought it yesterday for a job tomorrow. I didn't have a clue about the setting tool but your simple approach taught me.
I'm glad the video helped
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Thank you for explaining this in a simple way that I could understand.
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What an Awesome tool. I have never seen this before. After Years of making big holes in the wall. Thanks.
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I just done a job obviously without using the the setting tool, and due to this great video i now know it better to use it with this tool.. thanks again for making this video...
It is easier with the setting tool, but they can be used without if the plasterboard has been skimmed over (I've never tried just plasterboard without the tool)
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They worked perfectly well, very strong. Thanks for advice.
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Thanks. I’ve been struggling with this!
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I have seen some videos where they "pump" the tool more than once (2 or 3 times I think); how do you know when it is tight enough (i.e. when to stop "pumping"? In your demo video, you could look behind the plasterboard and see that the "umbrella" was fully open, but in normal usage, we won't be able to do that.
Many thanks in advance for your comments.
It depends on the anchor, some might need more than one pump, but even with just one pump, it should expand the anchor enough, so that when the screw is inserted it will grab without rotating. The final tightening of the screw will ensure that the anchor is tight 👍
I saw this at B&Q today and had to look these up.
Why would you use this tool compared to screwing the screw all the way? Is it useful when hanging things?
The tool is useful, if the plasterboard has not been skimmed with plaster, as the fixing can tear the paper covering of the plasterboard, when it rotates.
I bought one of these years ago work well, even used them inside and outside on the masonry wall of my house; but the concrete bricks are hollow inside otherwise they wouldn't work I guess?
Thanks!
Are these suitable for hanging radiators or would a zip fix be better?
What nobody tells you is that you have to keep the screw slightly unscrewed otherwise it won't fit the tool.
I have a hollow metal door that has a barrel bolt on it to keep it closed (back of my garage) on the top in to the door frame. I can't keep the screws from pulling out and stripping the hole that holds the bolt mechanism. Thought I needed anchors so tried drywall anchors but because of the little spikes on the anchors that won't grab into the metal, they just spin and spin. Maybe this tool will work with the right kind of anchors. I don't know what kind of anchors would work on a hollow metal door. Help?
Just a quick note , I have the RAWL setting tool and for years I hadn’t realised it has a 2 phase trigger . Pull once for 5mm pull out and repeat again to pull out another 10mm . Couldn’t understand why it wouldn’t tighten before I realised this
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Thank you! Gonna go ham on some walls now!
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Great video, do you think they hold a 55" 20kg tv On a plasterboard wall?
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Thanks for the comment , This might help you decide- th-cam.com/video/ECDysfNhx_E/w-d-xo.html
+Ultimate Handyman thanks, I think hollow anchor is good for me. Thanks, subscribed.
You are welcome.Thank you ;-)
Levis05 how did you get on mounting the tv on your wall?
I really love your videos - have helped me out a lot recently in our new house. Would you mind letting me know what sort of weight these could hold? I've got a really heavy mirror which I want to hand above a fireplace but haven't dared yet!
Thanks, this should answer your question- th-cam.com/video/ECDysfNhx_E/w-d-xo.html
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This looks like the solution for my lightweight cupboard I want to fix to a hollow wall (plasterboard)
The plasterboard seems quite thick so are there different sizes of anchor to match different thickness of board?
Yes, if you measure how thick the boards are - th-cam.com/video/EP4ynwgg4fo/w-d-xo.html&t
You can then get the ones that suit that thickness of boards 👍
Examples here- bit.ly/3IbfTNt
Yeah that is allot better than 35 years ago with out that Idea for a tool, was it available at that time? I hated those encores at the time... :)
+Curiosity I'm not sure how long the setting tool has been available for, sorry.Thanks for the comment
Can this only be used in plasterboard and drywall? I am trying to anchor something into hollow wood window frames. About the frames are about 5 inches wide and maybe a half an inch thick for reference. TIA if you or someone sees this and is able to help! 😅
I have heard of people using them in hollow wooden doors, but have not tried them myself. They should work fine for what you plan ;-)
If the screw never completely tightens (just keeps turning). Would that indicate the plug hasn’t set properly?
Yes, or the internal threads have been stripped.
You can check if the anchor has been set by removing what you are fixing and just tighten the screw in the fixing, if the whole things spins, the anchor has not set correctly.
Your videos are always the best and my go to for queries on diy - clearly explained and to the point, thanks! 👍🏻
I'm glad the videos help.
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Thanks. How do you romve it?
Makes life easier if you load the anchors into the setting tool before putting them in the wall 😉
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Looks like a gypsum board, does this tool/screw work with concrete hollow block?
Hi mate, great video as always! One thing I was meant to ask you a long time ago when I watched this video for the first time. Can you use the hollow wall anchor tool for use with "jack nuts"? I need to insert some into upvc for a sash jammer. Appreciate your help. Regards
I'm not sure, to be honest. I think it would work, but I have never used Jack nuts. I normally use rivet nuts-
th-cam.com/video/f7yIqKnLGPc/w-d-xo.html&t
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I used one of these for the first time today and found that even fully retracting the setting tool the anchor was still loose - I had to manually screw the bolt with a screwdriver to get it fully tight.
Presumably this was because the fixing was too long for the thickness of plasterboard. Do they come in different lengths and how do you know the thickness of the board you’re fixing to?
Yes, these come in different lengths, it is important to get the correct size anchor for the thickness of plasterboard that you are fixing to, this video shows how to find out the thickness- th-cam.com/video/EP4ynwgg4fo/w-d-xo.html&t
Huh, i never even knew you were supposed to use a tool for these. I've always installed them without. Must of had been lucky, i can certainly see what a difference it makes.
+aserta In most cases you can install them without the setting tool, but if the plasterboard is not skimmed they can sometimes tear the paper which means it cannot grip to expand behind the hole. Thanks for the comment
Great video, how did we all cope before the internet?!?! :D
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I could of done with the internet in 1999 when I renovated my first house LOL
Thanks fella, usually use the other method but the setting tool much better! Cheers!
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Brilliant! Nice and clear. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
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Excellent presentation 👍🙏
Thank you! Cheers!
This was really helpful, thank you.
Great video - just what I needed to get the job done.
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Could these fixings be used on dot & dab walls for light to medium weight fixings? I'd prefer to use these over other fixings but I'm concerned the cavity wouldn't be wide enough to accommodate these.
No, they might hit the wall behind. You are better off using either the Rigifix or corefix fixings-
th-cam.com/video/xaYfs3lr1jI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/7xLhIPoO5gQ/w-d-xo.html
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How much weight can a single wall anchor hold? I want to put a 7-12KG TV on plasterboard (not sure I'll hit a stud) so wondering how many altogether I would need to secure it?
I see you have found this video- th-cam.com/video/ECDysfNhx_E/w-d-xo.html
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wow, i actually didn't realise these still existed. i was using these 30 years ago. to my memory the only ones that used to make these guns back then was Unifix, and they were called "fast brolleys" not anchors, back then.
+Rich Ando They seem to sell them under a few different names, but are probably all made in the same factory under license!Thanks for the comment ;-)
+Ultimate Handyman
i might go looking through my loft now just for the fun of it, to see if i can find my original old gun.
+Rich Ando
Get it on the Antiques roadshow LOL
@@ultimatehandyman Or "Flog It". ;-)
I love learning a new DIY technique. Thanks! But how wide was the hole you drilled?
It was the same diameter as the wall anchor (they vary in diameter, depending on the make)
@@ultimatehandyman Cheers. I just realised how stupid a question that was too. 🤣
For the Rawlplug ones I have just bought (5 x 52) it is 9 mm. Says on the packet. You could also measure the fitting at the thickest part.
what happened to butterfly fixings? I guess times have moved on, not sure I have
Thanks for the video , they look pretty good for lightweight for lightweight loading
+icespeckledhens Are butterfly fixings called spring toggles, or are they something different?Thanks for the comment
+Ultimate Handyman they had the steel spring toggles then they brought out nylon ones and you could buy them in packs of 100 and quite cheap. You just drilled a hole in the wall pushed the toggle into the hole, attached the load and screwed in the screw. On screwing the nylon toggle two wings (hence the butterfly name) opened at the back of the plasterboard and it was a good easy cheap fixing. You only needed a screwdriver.
+icespeckledhens
I think I know the ones you mean.
Luckily I have always lived in a terraced house until recently, so we always had solid walls LOL ;-)
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Butterflys work, but they don't provide a "stable" platform for haning stuff - i.e. if want to hang a mirror, butterflys are no good.
Do you think one of these hollow wall anchors could be used on a PVC soffit? Basically, I want to mount a CCTV dome camera on the outside soffit of my porch.
yes, depending the thickness of the pvc, I believe they have as small as 3/16 up to an 1", you just need to know when to stop tightening the bolt
Thank you. Going to hang a heavyish mirror and need something a bit better than those self-drill plasterboard screws. Great video.
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I learnt something
When purchasing a the anchor screws, how much longer should they be than the board thickness? I have standard plaster board (UK which I assume is 10mm). I have tiles which I think are approx 7mm then the adhesive. If my wall is 20mm thick what length anchor screw would you recommend? Thanks
These will work on 16mm- 32mm thick walls- www.screwfix.com/p/easyfix-hollow-wall-anchors-16-32mm-m5-x-72mm-10-pack/11143
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I must have been lucky as I've never used one of these and have been ok with these anchors. I take it slowly and you can tell when it's gripping and when it's going to give way. Granted it takes a little longer but I'm too tight to buy that tool! Also since these are threaded they have a tendency to loosen over time so a bit of thread lock goes a long way. Just hope your not the bugger taking the thing out again though ;-)
+Zed Man Most of the time they work without the tool, but if they do start turning you are knackered LOLThanks for the comment
You must be super tight then coz these are cheap
When I was trying to tighten a Molly on my plasterboard with a screwdriver, the Molly was not staying put and ripped through the plasterboard and came loose. Does that mean I need to get a setting tool like this?
Yes, although you can often get away with just using a screwdriver if the plasterboard has been skimmed over with plaster.
Some of those wall anchor tools (aka Molly or Polly setting tool) have a little metal rod that sticks out about an inch from the back of the head & some dont. Whats the rod for?
I'm not sure to be honest.
I don't normally use the setting tool, and don't have a clue where mine is!
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How do you choose the correct drill bit? I have some M4 and some M5 anchors, but neither of them say what drill bit to use. Maybe it's obvious to someone with a bit of knowledge, sadly that doesn't include me :)
I normally get a drill bit that is the same size, or slightly smaller than the diameter of the anchor (the part that is pushed through the hole). That way it is a nice tight fit to begin with, once the anchor has expanded it should grip the plasterboard really tight.
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Is there a way to know what size anchor fixing I need? im in a new build house
You need to find the thickness of the plasterboard on the wall that you intend to fix to- th-cam.com/video/EP4ynwgg4fo/w-d-xo.html&t
Then buy the appropriate fixing 👍
Helped us a lot Thank you
Glad to hear that
Bloody hell, I've been using these wall plugs wrong for years, that inset tool is brilliant, countless hours wasted just by not having that tool to set them consistently and reliably!
They do work on some walls, especially if the plasterboard has been skimmed, without using the setting tool. But they work much better with the setting tool.
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Can these be used on tiled plasterboard walls?
Yes, they can, but you need to make sure you get anchors long enough. Also there are two anti-rotational spikes in some of these, I would file those off or bend them back, so that they don't try and stick into the tile.
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No special tool needed to clear away insulated plasterboard ?
For insulated plasterboard, you can get an undercutting tool (made by GripIt), I used it in this video- th-cam.com/video/-geib-6sa3M/w-d-xo.html&t
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12/10 video, just put up a shelf with this. definitely beats manually screwing those screws in until your hands bleed.
(I don't own powertools)
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What size drill bit do you use?
It depends on the size of the anchor. A drill bit just wider than the anchor is best, as the tighter the fit- the better.
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A great video would be to show different fixings for different wall types.
I have a 3 mirror bathroom cabinet to hang, the wall sounds hollow and I have no idea what's behind; brick or cinderblock or if the have double-boarded it, nor how deep it is. builders should install marine ply panels spanning studs in area's where these things should go, it's not rocket science is it.
I did this when I remodelled my bathroom, so easy to do and saves a lot of grieve.
These might help-
th-cam.com/video/gWupPtzXo6Y/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/-geib-6sa3M/w-d-xo.html
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these are a right pain to remove though!??
+xan778
Not really, just put the screw in and give it a smack with the hammer. That should straighten out the fixing so that it can be removed easily, then just patch up the hole ;-)
@@ultimatehandyman Thanks for that tip. I have a bunch of these in my bedroom wall from where an old tv was removed and have just been gritting my teeth and ignoring them. Now I can finally get rid of them. 👍
Would appreciate videos showing use of tools being more zoomed out so the viewer can see you use the tool. For example you mentioned squeezing the handles, I have an assumption of what this means but could easily get that confused with the lever, having visual reference would help. Thank you!
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Wall anchors versus snap-toggles?...
+ForestCat Snap toggles every time for me. Hollow wall anchors are good for lighter items and are less expensive than snap toggles.
Thanks for this! Very helpful 5*
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how do you install these without the setting tool?
th-cam.com/video/nNFv65-QTPI/w-d-xo.html
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It would be great if you could link to your previous video (how to use these anchors without the setting tool) in the description of this video.
Maybe also an info card in the video around 0:34, with a link to the other video.
Is this the one? th-cam.com/video/nNFv65-QTPI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the suggestion. It's difficult keeping track of all my videos and when cards came out and end screen's, it made it impossible to edit all 800+ videos with the correct cards etc.
I've done as you suggested, thanks again 👍
Can u do a video on how to weld
+Keelin Black I have tried but it's really difficult to film. I will try again when I have some spare time though ;-)
Ok thanks
excellent video Chez
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+FoodOnCrack Ha Ha, I love the 301 club.Thanks for the comment ;-)
One day I will find a question about diy that hasn't already been answered in a TH-cam video. But not today. Thanks!
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I thanks my tool didn't come with instructions, I couldn't figure it till I watch your video
Great to hear!
Ditto Foodoncr*Ck As Always A Brilliant Video Great Work, Well Done!
+TheAudiostud Thanks for the comment;-)
Thanks mate, bought the gun with a kit of anchors but the instructions were non existent
I'm glad the video helped ;-)
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Another thing on the "what to buy next list" haha
+Nik Trp They are useful for light weight fixing to plasterboard and very inexpensive once you have the setting tool.Thanks for the comment
still dont get whats with the gloves...??
They protect your hands ;-)
Another tool to put on the begging list to the wife. lol.
+peter hancock It's worth buying the tool if you use these a lot, but there are other fixings you can use instead which do not require a setting tool. (the video will be online soon). Thanks for the comment
Is this how most people mount TV's on walls?
+ratgreen No, I would use something more substantial for a TV such as th-cam.com/video/tAIUublenMw/w-d-xo.html
+Ultimate Handyman Hi there. Thanks for this video, this is great. I have a 23kg shelving unit from Ikea to fix and I saw this video. Would you go for the snaptoggles over the rawlplug inserts for that?
+Ryan Holden
Yes, I'd go for the snap toggles ;-)
Thanks a lot mate, I ordered some online and they will be here soon. I removed the old metal insert rawl plugs from my wall but it doesn't seem to have a space behind it. I'll drill through further tomorrow! Cheers, your channel is excellent!
+Ryan Holden
It's not a solid wall behind is it?
If there is bricks behind you might be better off with these- th-cam.com/video/xaYfs3lr1jI/w-d-xo.html
I recently fixed a cabinet to a partition wall that was full of cardboard (egg box partition) and I used grip-it fixings for that as most other fixings would not work well on such a wall- th-cam.com/video/-geib-6sa3M/w-d-xo.html
You are welcome BTW ;-)
If they built proper houses instead of make do hutches, there wouldn't be a problem.
manofweed1 Yep. Basically cardboard houses at this point!
Would they be strong enough to wall mount a flat screen television? Thanks
I'd use either spring toggles or snap toggles to be honest as they have really good weight bearing capabilities-
th-cam.com/video/ECDysfNhx_E/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/mIEY3E4fiDk/w-d-xo.html
It all depends on how good the drywall is. If too much moisture in the air or to much humidity the drywall becomes much more weak.