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Love, love Oscars. Back in my not so smart days of occasionally offering feeders, my Oscar decided he was friends with one. They lived harmoniously and the goldfish grew as large as him. 😅
@@sithminkodikara8054goldfish are carp, they are way more hardy than people realize, and depending on the water they were bred in they can live in a great variety of water conditions
I didn't understand how different and gorgeous Bettas could get until this channel. I just hate that they are little killers cuz in a perfect world I would love to have a rainbow betta tank!
It totally depends on the Betta. One of mine had to be moved to a tank by himself because he was being harassed by a violent gang of killer ember tetras. -_- Sarcasm aside, embers are peaceful little fish, but they are on the busy side, and one of them was getting kind of nippy. Some Bettas would have rained down utter carnage on the offending fish, but Boo (yeah, the name is personality-based) was just getting stressed out by them. He's much happier in the company of just a few snails.
If you keep multiple males together, you need plenty of hiding space. Each male will have his own territory. The alpha will get the best territory of course.
Mine wasn't a killer and my sister in law's were fine (she had 2 males in a 30 gallon) but some are really aggressive. The temperament varies hugely in bettas.
My mom set up a marine aquarium, The fish: purple damsel, clown, green spotted puffer and Lionfish. Yep. Lionfish. The damsel went missing, then the clownfish, then the puffer, and Lionfish belly up after eating the GSP.
@@MoniqueBoulangerMSG gotcha. Okay. Ironic that as a teenager my mom let us have a fishtank. It was a hexagon tank and the pet store told her angel fish liked neon tetras. We saw 10 neons go-to One very quick, paranoid tetra. They forgot to tell her Angel fish eat neons. That was before the Internet
Awe I have a betta who is kinda scared of my mystery snail. He’s only scared of the antennas and they are in a 10 gallon tank. The mystery snail was with my dwarf gourami but my gourami thought the antennas were snacks so he went with the betta. Also my gourami is scared of Pygmy Corydoras. I think it’s bc he doesn’t like to be touched and the Pygmy’s like to snuggle all fish and plants.
Heh, your mention of Oscars eating anything small enough in their tank reminded me of the only time I've seen one in person. Way back when I actually had a car and could go places, I used to visit a pet store near where I worked and look at the various critters. I had multiple cats at home at the time. (I still can't actually have an aquarium because of family issues, so I watch vids...). But, to get back on track, one day while I was there, an employee accidentally dropped a box of feeder crickets while I was looking around the fishtanks and probably distracted by things more brightly colored. Until I heard a little sploosh, and I looked, and there's this huge (I think about 7-8 inches, but this was a good 20 years ago or so, so even with my weird memory for odd little snapshot-like visuals I can't trust that) dark grey fish just looking happy as can be as they snap up every cricket that got in their tank. After the employee caught as many crickets as they could and left the aisle, I happened to find a cricket they missed. And, I have to confess, promptly dropped that bug right in the Oscar tank. I have I have never forgotten that fish. That Oscar was not colorful or flashy, but remains the only fish I have any clear memories of looking at when I used to visit that place.
Male bettas don't grow more than 3 inches long, and the females are smaller and more docile. Like most territorial fish, bettas don't usually mind distantly related fish, although they are renowned for aggression toward their own kind (among males, anyway), and toward the related gouramis, as the video says. Otherwise, I've found there are plenty of community fish I can keep them with, but there is one interesting exception, which is not even a fish: African dwarf frogs. I have never been able to successfully keep bettas with African dwarf frogs for very long. Sooner or later, the betta kills one or more of the frogs, and I have to separate the survivors. So even though bettas are not uber-aggressive like many cichlids, I can see why they are on this list of "murderers."
I had a male betta that liked to attack the aquarium thermometer because it was glass and I think he could see a reflection if he was at exactly the right angle. He also displayed threateningly at small snails. Gorgeous fish, but stupidly over-aggressive. When he got older, though, he developed a large tumor and couldn't swim as quickly. He was then a lot less aggressive and not dangerous, and got along fairly well with glowlight tetras and a pygmy cory (there was only one left at the petstore, and I never managed to find schoolmates for him though I tried) in a somewhat larger tank. He didn't like the honey gourami I introduced near the end of his life, but it could easily outswim him and did just fine. None of the other fish picked on him - it was purely a case of picking tankmates he couldn't bully. I'd never have tried the honey gourami when he was young though - he'd probably have killed it, and would definitely have tried. So a lot depends on your betta. If you're going to try somewhat questionable things like I did with the honey gourami, you need to keep a very close eye on the fish, be able to read fish behavior and tell if they're getting stressed or sick, and have a backup plan for if stuff goes wrong. I don't recommend putting male bettas with other fish for beginners, or if you have a healthy young male betta who's aggressive. And really, a gourami in with a male betta is asking for trouble. I tried to divide the tank, but the divider failed to work properly, and then I realized they were actually okay together given how lumbering the betta now was. So I watched carefully, and lo and behold! they were all right.
My friends who owned them knew that and would see how long their beta fish would last tutoring then by showing their beta mirrors and watching them head but the tank until they died because it saw its reflection.
Angels will also eat fish small enough to fit in their mouths... this tends to happen with young neon tetras and adult angelfish. Breeding angelfish are fascinating when you get a pair with the full parental instinct. We had a breeding pair at work, in the plant tank. When I had to reach in to clean the glass or grab a plant and they had eggs, they'd attack my hand, never mind that I'm a scary monster many times their size. They were all 'must protect the eggs!' It was a bit inconvenient, but also quite endearing.
Oh boy did you really peg the "angel" fish! I got 5 babies from an aquaintence and new breeder when I was just still pretty new to the hobby (early high school) and those little twerps were awesome until two decided to become a breeding pair. They killed the other 3 one at a time then moved on to my established colony of danios, plattys, etc. and got rid of them. It was cool to see them lay eggs on the rocks and see the newly hatched fry but dang.... Didn't know I was trading a pair of angel fish for my established community tank. Baby angels are beautiful, but nothing remains a baby forever. Lesson learned.
Bought a Chinese algae eater. "Algae eater" is in the name. Dang thing is a carnivore! Killed a giant pearl scale goldfish I brought in for the winter. Would not stop attacking it, and one goldfish couldn't recover. Now it seems he's harassing the other small tankmates.
I worked at a fish store and there were people who wanted a paradise fish to go along with their neons, glowlights, etc! I had to dissuade thrm from buying them.
My jardini was legitimately crazy. Bro would jump a full foot out of the tank you attack your hand if you had food anywhere near the top of his tank. He had good aim, too, i might add.
had an opportunity to get 2 baby tropical gar. 10 years, many tank sizes and tankmates later i still wish i would have thought it out a bit more. they are near 3 ft long and extremely aggressive.
Ha, I had a great laugh at your list...., many years ago I owned a petshop and use to import tropical fish into Australia from Singapore. There was a very intriguing fish on the list (and a good price 🙄), it was called a "" Greenish Panther Angel", 5cm. The description was stunning. A beautiful angelfish with an iridescent green/bronze tint to them whilst covered in black spots...., 5cm (2") overall. Thinking these fish were cool, I ordered 20..., just to check them out. 5cm (2") was their body size...,, these fish were huge..., and STUNNING looking..., but man no fish had been more perfectly named. These guys were vicious with an appetite to match. They attacked and ate everything that was put in with them, needless to say I never ordered them again. (I even told our fisheries inspector (All fish had to be inspected at the airpport) to NOT allow these into Australia...., yes they were THAT nasty).
When i was 8 i though it would be a good idea to put my beta inside my 120 gallon oscar fish tank temporarily while i clean its tank. I thought that maybe since the betta is so small the oscars wouldn't notice it. Next thing i know the betta was gone and my oscars mouth was full. Dumbest decision of my life
Happened to me when I was a kid. Had some bug eyed gold fish. I was 7 don't yell at me too much. Got a catfish don't know what. Then my goldfish started to disappear. The pet store person looked at me and my dad like we were dumb when we told them the goldfish vanished and asked what does the catfish eat. Well, we got some feeders and that was that.
I had this same impulse buy when I was starting, but lucky for me my impulse buy was just a friendly little golden comet platy 😅. (Just so you guys know, it was a cycled tank and soonly after we bought her some friends, and she ended up living 3 more years after we got her!)
Paid 9 dollars each for my colorful neo shrimp, bought 7 of them.. they were full grown too.. my betta had a very expensive meal. He ate all of them! 😮😢
They are brutal but look great in a tank. I had one in a 180 gallon with 3 Pacus an Orange pike and 2 HUGE angels and no issues, but yea, anything smaller was toast
@@fossilkingdomwhen I was a kid my neighbors dad had a 40ish gal hexagon tank that had a bluegill in it. It was a cool looking tank, setup with gravel, plants, and driftwood to look natural.
@@volvo09 I worked for a company that would maintain large aquariums. We had a client who was a big time hunter that had a 300+ gallon tank that was set up like that, had blue gill and large mouth bass in it. Was definitely cool
This video was very helpful! :) thanks so much for your content. Is there a video about creating a Betta Sorority? I see a lot of it on your channel and finally seen a thriving one in a local petstore. I would like to learn more about the process because it was fasinating to watch them interact.
Yea I don’t get the hype about Flowehorns I can’t stand em. I don’t judge anyone who does because I have no room to talk but I think they are hideous and look like they have a tumor and like you said you a bunch of water and nothing can go in the tank. Hi though in case anyone feels judge I am literally redesigning my whole man cave to fit as mean huge tanks so I can have schools of different rainbow fish and Corydoras in the effectively. I’m not kidding so far I am up to a 280 and six 180 and I am still able to keep my coach, fridge and 70 inch tv in the same room😂. Like I said I can’t judge anyone lol
I used to be of the same opinion, that was until I owned one. It's like having a boisterous puppy in a tank of water. I've taught mine to take mealworms from my hand and he reacts to me shaking the bag of food in front of the tank. It's unbelievable to see it! The big head/bonsai ones like in this video are horrible, but you can get some stunning ones.
I'm not a fish guy, because i tend to move after a year or two and fish owning and moving regularly don't mix. I do have the magpie mind when it comes to my hobbies, so i do understand where you are coming from.
I had a 6 inch Pictus catfish. Eats medium size tetras and all food. Had to find a new home for it. Bought it when it was tiny and never imagined that it would be a monster.
❤had a 220g tank and I had 2 fish in it because anything else was eaten. When they finally passed. My Jardini was 22 in long and my shovel nose cat, I believe it was a planiceps ,gorgeous white/brown modeled appearance was 28in. I either had to feed them pool comets , 3 to 5 in long or 100 feeders. Only 1 a week or so. I got bit by the Jardini every time I took water readings. Great fish but a handful
I've kept a pair of leucistic kissing gourami with a male and a female Siamese fighting fish for years with absolutely no fighting or aggression from either of them.
I've had 3 Flowerhorns. #1 was a vicious murderer. #2 was the friendliest fish you could imagine. He was huge and shared the tank with 4 Cichlids and always hung out by them. #3 shares his tank with 2 other Cichlids. Keeps to himself but no problems. Seems to work if you raise them together. You never know how it will work out until you try. BTW, they grow real fast, so I recommend you go with a juvenile.
This is a weird list. Bettas??! Oscars, Red Tails and Arowanas are predatory fish. Of course they are going to eat anything that can fit in their mouths.
As a teen I had a small tank with a variety of small colorful freshwater fish. Then I bought two cute black and white Angel fish. One day I was cleaning the tank when they tried to bite me. They turned so aggressive out of no where. Then I realized they had laid eggs! I was not a breeder and was so surprised!
My spouse is the same way about snakes. We have friends who have snakes and I will always be happy to hold one of theirs for awhile in the far corner, happily, while my spouse is the other corner.interacting with the friends… tell Lisa she has a kindred soul-friend.
I have had a Male Betta (Jim) for about two months and decided to get a bigger tank for him and also maybe some tank mates. I cycled my new 10 gallon tank and put in five neon tetra and two snails before putting in my beta, and my beta took out three of them. The snails are awesome too
Gotta thank the pet shop worker that made it VERY clear that my tank fish cannot handle any form of harps , saved my fishes lives and my wallet ( they cost a lot from where I live )
I got really looking that I had time with my Betta I had it hand trained and it lived happily with my guppies,tetras and rasbora but again I was lucky and I had time
You can put female bettas together! It’s not recommended if you’re a beginner though. I heard you can’t put blood parrots with other species but I’ve seen them with other fish at the LFS so which is true? And when my twin snails Flotsam and Jetsam were alive Flotsam was with my sorority and Jetsam was with my boy Periwinkle my betta and they were the best of friends! It was so cute seeing Periwinkle sitting on Jetsam when he was on the glass and seeing them sleeping together was too cute ❤ they were best buddies Perry was sad like me when they died my girls loved Flotsam too!
I love bettas I have a few bettas all in seperate tanks and they all are so pretty 🥰 I honestly have all different kinda of fish and I keep everyone of them seperate except I have neon tetras with glowfish but they are peaceful and I have some ember tetras with shrimp in a planted tank 🥰 super tiny and cute
Luckly for me, the coolest-looking fish I saw in my fish shop and absolutely had to have were... Congo Tetras, which definitely don't count as tank-m*rderers (and just happen to be perfectly suited for my 50 gallons / 190 litres). I anyway have had Bettas and my father have had Angelfish when I was a kid; about the first, male expecially really are unpredictable to the point I'd rather keep them alone (and anyway, in a tank the size of mine, I just have come preferring species like the Pearl Gourami, which I find much easier to manage); while about Angelfish, I remember them having gulped down whole schools of Neons and Rummynose, which for someone like me which has always loved small schooling fish have been sort of a "trauma". I'd like to try some Cichlid once I'll have more time, but I think I'll rather go with Apistos or Kribs, or even directly with Discus than Angelfish; sorry, but I've had sort of a bad "imprinting with them...
No it never happened to me in over 40 years.I always did thorough research before I created any of my community tanks.Bettas are great centre fish in community fish.I love them with chilli, dwarf rasbora, Harlequin, caridinia shrimp (they never overtake the tank ;) .)kuhli loaches and Otocinclus and snails.I
Oscars are cool. My buddy friend had a big Oscar. Raised It from young. Ate out of his hand. Trained it to jump out of the water to get the food he was holding. They have teeth. One day the food stuck to his thumb and he lost the tip of his thumb. Accident, yes, but he then started using tweezers. They are like puppy dogs.
Yes big predatory fish can bite off more then they can chew, I saw a fossil of a giant extinct fish that had died choking on another fish close to its size, also saw on tv a payara that was floating, it was choking on another fish it tried to eat, the payara recovered after its meal was removed and it was placed back in the water,
On a side note, female bettas are less prone to mood swings compared to their male counterparts and are fine with other female bettas AS LONG AS THE TANK IS BIG ENOUGH. Those tanks are known as "sorority tanks" when they have multiple female bettas
I have 2 male Bettas getting along with each other and other 3 Gouramis, 6 Danios, 4 Neon Tetras peacefully. Infact the 2 male bettas even hang out together in the tank. Weird but true! But watching this video makes me a worried. Hope the Bettas dont change their mood
I have a medium size community tank with a few mixed species, the normal Gouramies, Platties, Dwarf Cichlids like Rams, one male Kribensis, five Corydoris, and four Angels (two are the colourful Koi Angels) there are a few different filler fish as well. My wife saw an Orange Severum and bought it home, it was then about two inches long, I said, OK we will keep it for a while but really it will get too large for that size of tank and will possibly cause a problem with the other fish, then it will have to go, he is now six inches long, it is as peaceful as can be and has never been aggressive to any other fish, he is a bit weird because he will swim at all sorts of angles but he is fine. I don`t want to part with him but I expect that I will have to soon.
I must point out that not all species of Betta are killers. There are many species of Betta. Many species are great in groups with their own species and in community tanks.
Great list. I was so obsessed with fish I over loaded my apartment with tanks. One fish I bought that I didn't do research on and paid dearly for was the Marble Goby. One at a time, my other fish began to disappear...
marble gobies are huge with huge mouths and most fish wouldnt even notice it cuz they’re ambush predators that bury themselves and blend in with rocks and sand like how stonefish do. gotta keep them with fish far lager then them or same size
Im gonna be honest with y'all when im a newbie i once put an oscar with an oranda and nothing went wrong i must be lucky but the power outage happened when im not home coming home with a tank with dead fish and one gasping for air
That's one of the best reasons to remain single with your giant man cave house or apartment. You never have to compromise for anything. As referring to the snake issue.
Oh boy. Red Tailed Catfish. These things are caught for HUMAN FOOD by South American natives, because they grow so big. An exceptional specimen may top out at nearly six feet. At which point it will NOT PHYSICALLY FIT in most home aquaria. An adult needs a small fork lift truck to lift it out of the water. Can you afford to build an aquarium large enough to sail a small boat on? No? Don't do it. There is an even worse choice though. That's another South American catfish, the Piraiba. How does NINE FEET AND FOUR HUNDRED POUNDS grab you? Leave that one in the Amazon unless you're running a huge public aquarium.
I always found that Beta`s were mostly subjected to fin damage from other fish, they were never a problem to any other fish. I had two 11 inch Oscars and they fought all of the time, I only had the two of them in a large tank, they were great and used to gaze as us when we walked through the room, great personalities but I had to separate them. I used to breed, Egyptian Mouth Brooders and U used the fry to feed the Oscars, it seems a bit cruel but, that is how nature works.
Bonjour, c'est tout à fait vrai, l'oscar est le poisson d'Amérique centrale et du sud amazonien, c'est le plus intelligent de tout les cichlidae américain et pour les cichlidae afriquain c'est ciclosoma frontosa ,qui est même le poisson le plus rencunier.👍🇧🇪❤️❤️
I love arowanas and have always wanted one. But sadly I will never have a small swimming pool to keep it in once it grows up. So I'm never going to buy one...
Not even sure why you'd want an Oscar if you didn't want a fish that eats live. That's the most interesting part of having an Oscar or a Pacu. Great if you want fish to grow big quickly but weekly trips to the fish store for feeders are a pain. In my older years I've switched to Discus; total pacifists but much cooler looking than Oscars.
I think oscars are one of those fish that are "intelligent" enough to love or hate another fish for reasons other than territoriality or predatory behavior
I'd add another category you can't, or at least shouldn't keep with bettas. Fish with wailed fins, anything that can be mistaken for another betta. Fancy guppies, small fancy goldfish, some killies. Basically anything with long fins.
Jardinis are the Mick Dundee of Australian fish. It's like they wake up and say "Strewth! There's me owner. Ima gonna bite im!" They will try to eat dogs, cats and small children if given the opportunity.
One other to avoid are what comes in as "blue dolphin". Not the cichlid (Cyrtocara moorii) , but the predatory catfish (Cetopsis sp.). They are parasitic and rasp the flesh off anything they can get hold of (including your hand). Very attractive , but definitely needs to be kept alone.
Do you guys accept rescues LOL. I have a few male African cichlids 😢 I didn’t know what I was getting into!! Thanks for all the videos y’all make! I learn from them always!
I will give you a good one ,an upside down Brown Spotted Catfish.A friend of my son gave me one as a gift 2 years ago.What we found out this fish a deadly assassin that does it,s work at night .He wiped out 2 Angelfish Swordtails, a Bisherfish,and alot of Guppies.What fish will fight this monester and possibly live this Monester in my tank.😂😂😂😂😂
I once bought this Tandanus Catfish that ate ALL of my guppies during quarantine. He grew so bloated that one day I found him dead with a ruptured stomach.
I made that mistake. 17 yrs old, had an established aquadcaped tank I spent 2 yrs to make and be happy with. Went into the fish store to buy bloodworms. Came out with a one eyed alligator gar. 10in big, thought my 80 gallon tank would be fine, within 3-4 months it destroyed alll my plants and hated anything in the tank with it. When I got the fish, day one relocated all other fish into a separate tank. When I went off to college, had to donate it to a friend who had a 250-300 gallon tank. Be smart, do some research.
With their vivid colors, rowdy temperament, and with respect to their alkaline pH preferences, I think African cichlids are the nearest thing to a freshwater “marine” fish. Like, if you wanted a saltwater tank but without the additional requirements of saltwater setups….
I’m getting a tank and I plan on having 1 betta, 5 Cory Cats, 4 Kuhli loaches, and a few tetras(trying to figure out if I’m going for black neons or glow lights).
I had a really dumb moment last year and got a "goldfish" from a carnival and now i wake up to a small blue and yellow ghost carp looking at me like "oh.... Your still alive 😒" or trying to break the glass until i put smt over the tank (i gave her some tetra brand "pond food color flakes" and she turned blue and i love it)
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Love, love Oscars. Back in my not so smart days of occasionally offering feeders, my Oscar decided he was friends with one. They lived harmoniously and the goldfish grew as large as him. 😅
LOL, he was like "this one, I will keep as a pet."
I thought Oscars and goldfish have very different water perimeters
@@sithminkodikara8054 They do. But i don't think he was counting on the goldfish to live in the tank as he said it was used for oscar food.
@@MarkoUntitled I was just surprised it survived
@@sithminkodikara8054goldfish are carp, they are way more hardy than people realize, and depending on the water they were bred in they can live in a great variety of water conditions
Every time I see a flowerhorn, I hear in my mind “It’s NOT a Tumah!” ;)
This always happens to new Fish keepers and even Experienced Fish keepers there’s no shame in this mistake
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I didn't understand how different and gorgeous Bettas could get until this channel. I just hate that they are little killers cuz in a perfect world I would love to have a rainbow betta tank!
It totally depends on the Betta. One of mine had to be moved to a tank by himself because he was being harassed by a violent gang of killer ember tetras. -_- Sarcasm aside, embers are peaceful little fish, but they are on the busy side, and one of them was getting kind of nippy. Some Bettas would have rained down utter carnage on the offending fish, but Boo (yeah, the name is personality-based) was just getting stressed out by them. He's much happier in the company of just a few snails.
If you keep multiple males together, you need plenty of hiding space. Each male will have his own territory. The alpha will get the best territory of course.
@@azntactical4884 yeah, seems like you need a massive, well planted tank to do it.
Mine wasn't a killer and my sister in law's were fine (she had 2 males in a 30 gallon) but some are really aggressive. The temperament varies hugely in bettas.
i kept mine in a 3 and a half gallon. he lived for 3 years. did weekly full water changes becouse its inpossable to balance a tank that small.
My mom set up a marine aquarium, The fish: purple damsel, clown, green spotted puffer and Lionfish. Yep. Lionfish. The damsel went missing, then the clownfish, then the puffer, and Lionfish belly up after eating the GSP.
Hilarious!
Didn't you warn her about that?
@@michellebarnhill5130 I was ten years old at the time. Even if I had known, she wouldn't have listened to me.
@@MoniqueBoulangerMSG gotcha. Okay. Ironic that as a teenager my mom let us have a fishtank. It was a hexagon tank and the pet store told her angel fish liked neon tetras. We saw 10 neons go-to One very quick, paranoid tetra. They forgot to tell her Angel fish eat neons. That was before the Internet
@@michellebarnhill5130 Well, the DID tell you that angels "liked" neons…
Awe I have a betta who is kinda scared of my mystery snail. He’s only scared of the antennas and they are in a 10 gallon tank. The mystery snail was with my dwarf gourami but my gourami thought the antennas were snacks so he went with the betta. Also my gourami is scared of Pygmy Corydoras. I think it’s bc he doesn’t like to be touched and the Pygmy’s like to snuggle all fish and plants.
Mine eats the mystery snail feelers. I'm going to end up with a snail tank instead of snails to clean the betta tank. 😅
Heh, your mention of Oscars eating anything small enough in their tank reminded me of the only time I've seen one in person. Way back when I actually had a car and could go places, I used to visit a pet store near where I worked and look at the various critters. I had multiple cats at home at the time. (I still can't actually have an aquarium because of family issues, so I watch vids...). But, to get back on track, one day while I was there, an employee accidentally dropped a box of feeder crickets while I was looking around the fishtanks and probably distracted by things more brightly colored. Until I heard a little sploosh, and I looked, and there's this huge (I think about 7-8 inches, but this was a good 20 years ago or so, so even with my weird memory for odd little snapshot-like visuals I can't trust that) dark grey fish just looking happy as can be as they snap up every cricket that got in their tank. After the employee caught as many crickets as they could and left the aisle, I happened to find a cricket they missed. And, I have to confess, promptly dropped that bug right in the Oscar tank. I have I have never forgotten that fish. That Oscar was not colorful or flashy, but remains the only fish I have any clear memories of looking at when I used to visit that place.
Male bettas don't grow more than 3 inches long, and the females are smaller and more docile. Like most territorial fish, bettas don't usually mind distantly related fish, although they are renowned for aggression toward their own kind (among males, anyway), and toward the related gouramis, as the video says. Otherwise, I've found there are plenty of community fish I can keep them with, but there is one interesting exception, which is not even a fish: African dwarf frogs. I have never been able to successfully keep bettas with African dwarf frogs for very long. Sooner or later, the betta kills one or more of the frogs, and I have to separate the survivors. So even though bettas are not uber-aggressive like many cichlids, I can see why they are on this list of "murderers."
One of my dream tanks is an Oscar. Need the the room.
You won’t be disappointed once you get them, I love my Oscar’s
@@bojohannesen4352 a bit no job no fish. Plus the house has 4 tanks already. Don’t know where I would put the tank.
I had a male betta that liked to attack the aquarium thermometer because it was glass and I think he could see a reflection if he was at exactly the right angle. He also displayed threateningly at small snails. Gorgeous fish, but stupidly over-aggressive.
When he got older, though, he developed a large tumor and couldn't swim as quickly. He was then a lot less aggressive and not dangerous, and got along fairly well with glowlight tetras and a pygmy cory (there was only one left at the petstore, and I never managed to find schoolmates for him though I tried) in a somewhat larger tank. He didn't like the honey gourami I introduced near the end of his life, but it could easily outswim him and did just fine. None of the other fish picked on him - it was purely a case of picking tankmates he couldn't bully. I'd never have tried the honey gourami when he was young though - he'd probably have killed it, and would definitely have tried.
So a lot depends on your betta. If you're going to try somewhat questionable things like I did with the honey gourami, you need to keep a very close eye on the fish, be able to read fish behavior and tell if they're getting stressed or sick, and have a backup plan for if stuff goes wrong. I don't recommend putting male bettas with other fish for beginners, or if you have a healthy young male betta who's aggressive. And really, a gourami in with a male betta is asking for trouble. I tried to divide the tank, but the divider failed to work properly, and then I realized they were actually okay together given how lumbering the betta now was. So I watched carefully, and lo and behold! they were all right.
My friends who owned them knew that and would see how long their beta fish would last tutoring then by showing their beta mirrors and watching them head but the tank until they died because it saw its reflection.
Angels will also eat fish small enough to fit in their mouths... this tends to happen with young neon tetras and adult angelfish.
Breeding angelfish are fascinating when you get a pair with the full parental instinct. We had a breeding pair at work, in the plant tank. When I had to reach in to clean the glass or grab a plant and they had eggs, they'd attack my hand, never mind that I'm a scary monster many times their size. They were all 'must protect the eggs!'
It was a bit inconvenient, but also quite endearing.
I mean, they ARE a species of cichlid
@@McChimkin123 That they are. It seems to take people by surprise when they don't act angelic though.
Omg that’s adorable!!
U both are amazing... I too is a fish hobbyists..Lots of luv and respect from 🇮🇳 India..Honestly, your channel has quality content..
I have 2 female betas in a community tank and they are doing great. Even get in the feeding frenzy.
Oh boy did you really peg the "angel" fish! I got 5 babies from an aquaintence and new breeder when I was just still pretty new to the hobby (early high school) and those little twerps were awesome until two decided to become a breeding pair. They killed the other 3 one at a time then moved on to my established colony of danios, plattys, etc. and got rid of them. It was cool to see them lay eggs on the rocks and see the newly hatched fry but dang.... Didn't know I was trading a pair of angel fish for my established community tank. Baby angels are beautiful, but nothing remains a baby forever. Lesson learned.
Bought a Chinese algae eater. "Algae eater" is in the name. Dang thing is a carnivore! Killed a giant pearl scale goldfish I brought in for the winter. Would not stop attacking it, and one goldfish couldn't recover. Now it seems he's harassing the other small tankmates.
Been there, done that...
I worked at a fish store and there were people who wanted a paradise fish to go along with their neons, glowlights, etc! I had to dissuade thrm from buying them.
My jardini was legitimately crazy. Bro would jump a full foot out of the tank you attack your hand if you had food anywhere near the top of his tank. He had good aim, too, i might add.
Oddly enough I have never had the issue of gourami's and Bettas together they always got along fine with me but I understand it can be a problem
What about the king of all murderers? Snakeheads!
had an opportunity to get 2 baby tropical gar. 10 years, many tank sizes and tankmates later i still wish i would have thought it out a bit more. they are near 3 ft long and extremely aggressive.
I suppose it's kinda fitting that flowerhorns look like Pennywise
Ha, I had a great laugh at your list...., many years ago I owned a petshop and use to import tropical fish into Australia from Singapore. There was a very intriguing fish on the list (and a good price 🙄), it was called a "" Greenish Panther Angel", 5cm. The description was stunning. A beautiful angelfish with an iridescent green/bronze tint to them whilst covered in black spots...., 5cm (2") overall. Thinking these fish were cool, I ordered 20..., just to check them out. 5cm (2") was their body size...,, these fish were huge..., and STUNNING looking..., but man no fish had been more perfectly named. These guys were vicious with an appetite to match. They attacked and ate everything that was put in with them, needless to say I never ordered them again. (I even told our fisheries inspector (All fish had to be inspected at the airpport) to NOT allow these into Australia...., yes they were THAT nasty).
Honestly, the worst tank murderers I ever had, all at different times were Zebra Danios, Tiger Barbs, and Cardinal Tetras.
Cardinal tetras?
Back in the 90’s snakeheads were the most aggressive fish I have ever had!
Fish fight club.
It's not a top 10 video without oscars 😂
When i was 8 i though it would be a good idea to put my beta inside my 120 gallon oscar fish tank temporarily while i clean its tank. I thought that maybe since the betta is so small the oscars wouldn't notice it. Next thing i know the betta was gone and my oscars mouth was full. Dumbest decision of my life
Happened to me when I was a kid. Had some bug eyed gold fish. I was 7 don't yell at me too much. Got a catfish don't know what. Then my goldfish started to disappear. The pet store person looked at me and my dad like we were dumb when we told them the goldfish vanished and asked what does the catfish eat. Well, we got some feeders and that was that.
As a store owner its up to you to advise the buyer as to how they are. I have refused to sell certian fish to people.
I had this same impulse buy when I was starting, but lucky for me my impulse buy was just a friendly little golden comet platy 😅. (Just so you guys know, it was a cycled tank and soonly after we bought her some friends, and she ended up living 3 more years after we got her!)
Paid 9 dollars each for my colorful neo shrimp, bought 7 of them.. they were full grown too.. my betta had a very expensive meal. He ate all of them! 😮😢
Cool.
I caught a sunfish, about the same size as the lure. I took it home and put in my tank. A few hours later, there was one fish in there...
They are brutal but look great in a tank. I had one in a 180 gallon with 3 Pacus an Orange pike and 2 HUGE angels and no issues, but yea, anything smaller was toast
@@fossilkingdomwhen I was a kid my neighbors dad had a 40ish gal hexagon tank that had a bluegill in it.
It was a cool looking tank, setup with gravel, plants, and driftwood to look natural.
@@volvo09 I worked for a company that would maintain large aquariums. We had a client who was a big time hunter that had a 300+ gallon tank that was set up like that, had blue gill and large mouth bass in it. Was definitely cool
This video was very helpful! :) thanks so much for your content. Is there a video about creating a Betta Sorority? I see a lot of it on your channel and finally seen a thriving one in a local petstore. I would like to learn more about the process because it was fasinating to watch them interact.
Yea I don’t get the hype about Flowehorns I can’t stand em. I don’t judge anyone who does because I have no room to talk but I think they are hideous and look like they have a tumor and like you said you a bunch of water and nothing can go in the tank. Hi though in case anyone feels judge I am literally redesigning my whole man cave to fit as mean huge tanks so I can have schools of different rainbow fish and Corydoras in the effectively. I’m not kidding so far I am up to a 280 and six 180 and I am still able to keep my coach, fridge and 70 inch tv in the same room😂. Like I said I can’t judge anyone lol
I adore Bettas and Oscars though
yeah i cant stand the hideous look of flowerhorn and goldfish Oranda with wen too
I used to be of the same opinion, that was until I owned one. It's like having a boisterous puppy in a tank of water. I've taught mine to take mealworms from my hand and he reacts to me shaking the bag of food in front of the tank. It's unbelievable to see it!
The big head/bonsai ones like in this video are horrible, but you can get some stunning ones.
Arowana's are what got me into aquariums way back in 1983. Still love them to this day.
I'm not a fish guy, because i tend to move after a year or two and fish owning and moving regularly don't mix. I do have the magpie mind when it comes to my hobbies, so i do understand where you are coming from.
I had a 6 inch Pictus catfish. Eats medium size tetras and all food. Had to find a new home for it. Bought it when it was tiny and never imagined that it would be a monster.
❤had a 220g tank and I had 2 fish in it because anything else was eaten. When they finally passed. My Jardini was 22 in long and my shovel nose cat, I believe it was a planiceps ,gorgeous white/brown modeled appearance was 28in. I either had to feed them pool comets , 3 to 5 in long or 100 feeders. Only 1 a week or so. I got bit by the Jardini every time I took water readings. Great fish but a handful
I've kept a pair of leucistic kissing gourami with a male and a female Siamese fighting fish for years with absolutely no fighting or aggression from either of them.
You forgot Piranhas 😅
Strange brew is a fantastic movie Perfectly Canadian
Take Offfffff?
I've had 3 Flowerhorns. #1 was a vicious murderer. #2 was the friendliest fish you could imagine. He was huge and shared the tank with 4 Cichlids and always hung out by them. #3 shares his tank with 2 other Cichlids. Keeps to himself but no problems. Seems to work if you raise them together. You never know how it will work out until you try. BTW, they grow real fast, so I recommend you go with a juvenile.
This is a weird list. Bettas??! Oscars, Red Tails and Arowanas are predatory fish. Of course they are going to eat anything that can fit in their mouths.
As a teen I had a small tank with a variety of small colorful freshwater fish. Then I bought two cute black and white Angel fish. One day I was cleaning the tank when they tried to bite me. They turned so aggressive out of no where. Then I realized they had laid eggs! I was not a breeder and was so surprised!
My spouse is the same way about snakes. We have friends who have snakes and I will always be happy to hold one of theirs for awhile in the far corner, happily, while my spouse is the other corner.interacting with the friends… tell Lisa she has a kindred soul-friend.
I have a single Koi Angel as my centerpiece fish in a 150. He seems kinda dumb but he eats sooooo much food.
Both hands raised😂
I have had a Male Betta (Jim) for about two months and decided to get a bigger tank for him and also maybe some tank mates. I cycled my new 10 gallon tank and put in five neon tetra and two snails before putting in my beta, and my beta took out three of them. The snails are awesome too
Ong my jaguar took out all my fish even a 6 inch gold fish when he was only 3 inches
I have 5 female betta 63 gal sorority my girls never fought and rest near each other without issue no nipped fins and never killed anything
I love Oscars also.
Gotta thank the pet shop worker that made it VERY clear that my tank fish cannot handle any form of harps , saved my fishes lives and my wallet ( they cost a lot from where I live )
I got really looking that I had time with my Betta I had it hand trained and it lived happily with my guppies,tetras and rasbora but again I was lucky and I had time
Also it was heavily planted
Surprised you didn't mention NA native fishes. Sunfish especially...
Or worse yet Pacu. They are like flowerhorns... except they get even bigger.
I put sunfish and bass in with a smaller African cichlids (Auratus). Cichlids were too fast and chewed off their fins and scales
Always look forward to your videos. Happy Holidays.
You can put female bettas together! It’s not recommended if you’re a beginner though. I heard you can’t put blood parrots with other species but I’ve seen them with other fish at the LFS so which is true? And when my twin snails Flotsam and Jetsam were alive Flotsam was with my sorority and Jetsam was with my boy Periwinkle my betta and they were the best of friends! It was so cute seeing Periwinkle sitting on Jetsam when he was on the glass and seeing them sleeping together was too cute ❤ they were best buddies Perry was sad like me when they died my girls loved Flotsam too!
What a great vid guys,i love angels but have not kept them in a few years,flowerhorns just look too out there for me but i know many love them
I love bettas I have a few bettas all in seperate tanks and they all are so pretty 🥰 I honestly have all different kinda of fish and I keep everyone of them seperate except I have neon tetras with glowfish but they are peaceful and I have some ember tetras with shrimp in a planted tank 🥰 super tiny and cute
Luckly for me, the coolest-looking fish I saw in my fish shop and absolutely had to have were... Congo Tetras, which definitely don't count as tank-m*rderers (and just happen to be perfectly suited for my 50 gallons / 190 litres).
I anyway have had Bettas and my father have had Angelfish when I was a kid; about the first, male expecially really are unpredictable to the point I'd rather keep them alone (and anyway, in a tank the size of mine, I just have come preferring species like the Pearl Gourami, which I find much easier to manage); while about Angelfish, I remember them having gulped down whole schools of Neons and Rummynose, which for someone like me which has always loved small schooling fish have been sort of a "trauma". I'd like to try some Cichlid once I'll have more time, but I think I'll rather go with Apistos or Kribs, or even directly with Discus than Angelfish; sorry, but I've had sort of a bad "imprinting with them...
No it never happened to me in over 40 years.I always did thorough research before I created any of my community tanks.Bettas are great centre fish in community fish.I love them with chilli, dwarf rasbora, Harlequin, caridinia shrimp (they never overtake the tank ;) .)kuhli loaches and Otocinclus and snails.I
I hate flowerhorns, they are just a monstrocity
Personally felt that Flowerhorns and Jardinis are the obvious killers.. The rest not so much
Oscars are cool. My buddy friend had a big Oscar. Raised It from young. Ate out of his hand. Trained it to jump out of the water to get the food he was holding. They have teeth. One day the food stuck to his thumb and he lost the tip of his thumb. Accident, yes, but he then started using tweezers. They are like puppy dogs.
my 1 male cherry barb murdered my other 6 cherry barbs...
💜🖤💜🖤
Never had luck with keeping a group of angels in a community tank. They seem to keep fighting each other
Thanks for the strange brew reference. Good one
LOL The redtail Cat story Literally got me laughing.
Yes big predatory fish can bite off more then they can chew, I saw a fossil of a giant extinct fish that had died choking on another fish close to its size, also saw on tv a payara that was floating, it was choking on another fish it tried to eat, the payara recovered after its meal was removed and it was placed back in the water,
On a side note, female bettas are less prone to mood swings compared to their male counterparts and are fine with other female bettas AS LONG AS THE TANK IS BIG ENOUGH. Those tanks are known as "sorority tanks" when they have multiple female bettas
Mbunas? They make Jeffrey Dahmer look like a saint!
Mbunas are in the members only video
You left off Mbunas!!!
I have 2 male Bettas getting along with each other and other 3 Gouramis, 6 Danios, 4 Neon Tetras peacefully. Infact the 2 male bettas even hang out together in the tank. Weird but true! But watching this video makes me a worried. Hope the Bettas dont change their mood
I have a medium size community tank with a few mixed species, the normal Gouramies, Platties, Dwarf Cichlids like Rams, one male Kribensis, five Corydoris, and four Angels (two are the colourful Koi Angels) there are a few different filler fish as well. My wife saw an Orange Severum and bought it home, it was then about two inches long, I said, OK we will keep it for a while but really it will get too large for that size of tank and will possibly cause a problem with the other fish, then it will have to go, he is now six inches long, it is as peaceful as can be and has never been aggressive to any other fish, he is a bit weird because he will swim at all sorts of angles but he is fine. I don`t want to part with him but I expect that I will have to soon.
I must point out that not all species of Betta are killers. There are many species of Betta. Many species are great in groups with their own species and in community tanks.
Great list. I was so obsessed with fish I over loaded my apartment with tanks. One fish I bought that I didn't do research on and paid dearly for was the Marble Goby. One at a time, my other fish began to disappear...
marble gobies are huge with huge mouths and most fish wouldnt even notice it cuz they’re ambush predators that bury themselves and blend in with rocks and sand like how stonefish do. gotta keep them with fish far lager then them or same size
Im gonna be honest with y'all when im a newbie i once put an oscar with an oranda and nothing went wrong i must be lucky but the power outage happened when im not home coming home with a tank with dead fish and one gasping for air
That's one of the best reasons to remain single with your giant man cave house or apartment. You never have to compromise for anything. As referring to the snake issue.
Oh boy. Red Tailed Catfish.
These things are caught for HUMAN FOOD by South American natives, because they grow so big. An exceptional specimen may top out at nearly six feet. At which point it will NOT PHYSICALLY FIT in most home aquaria. An adult needs a small fork lift truck to lift it out of the water. Can you afford to build an aquarium large enough to sail a small boat on? No? Don't do it.
There is an even worse choice though. That's another South American catfish, the Piraiba. How does NINE FEET AND FOUR HUNDRED POUNDS grab you? Leave that one in the Amazon unless you're running a huge public aquarium.
I always found that Beta`s were mostly subjected to fin damage from other fish, they were never a problem to any other fish. I had two 11 inch Oscars and they fought all of the time, I only had the two of them in a large tank, they were great and used to gaze as us when we walked through the room, great personalities but I had to separate them. I used to breed, Egyptian Mouth Brooders and U used the fry to feed the Oscars, it seems a bit cruel but, that is how nature works.
Bonjour, c'est tout à fait vrai, l'oscar est le poisson d'Amérique centrale et du sud amazonien, c'est le plus intelligent de tout les cichlidae américain et pour les cichlidae afriquain c'est ciclosoma frontosa ,qui est même le poisson le plus rencunier.👍🇧🇪❤️❤️
I love arowanas and have always wanted one. But sadly I will never have a small swimming pool to keep it in once it grows up. So I'm never going to buy one...
Not even sure why you'd want an Oscar if you didn't want a fish that eats live. That's the most interesting part of having an Oscar or a Pacu. Great if you want fish to grow big quickly but weekly trips to the fish store for feeders are a pain. In my older years I've switched to Discus; total pacifists but much cooler looking than Oscars.
You are my voice of reason. lol. I really want a "wet Pet" type of fish, but I really do NOT want a murderer.
I think oscars are one of those fish that are "intelligent" enough to love or hate another fish for reasons other than territoriality or predatory behavior
Thank you John and Lisa. Best wishes and Merry Christmas Guys 🎄🎋
I'd add another category you can't, or at least shouldn't keep with bettas.
Fish with wailed fins, anything that can be mistaken for another betta.
Fancy guppies, small fancy goldfish, some killies.
Basically anything with long fins.
Jardinis are the Mick Dundee of Australian fish. It's like they wake up and say "Strewth! There's me owner. Ima gonna bite im!" They will try to eat dogs, cats and small children if given the opportunity.
One other to avoid are what comes in as "blue dolphin". Not the cichlid (Cyrtocara moorii) , but the predatory catfish (Cetopsis sp.). They are parasitic and rasp the flesh off anything they can get hold of (including your hand). Very attractive , but definitely needs to be kept alone.
Do you guys accept rescues LOL. I have a few male African cichlids 😢 I didn’t know what I was getting into!! Thanks for all the videos y’all make! I learn from them always!
I will give you a good one ,an upside down Brown Spotted Catfish.A friend of my son gave me one as a gift 2 years ago.What we found out this fish a deadly assassin that does it,s work at night .He wiped out 2 Angelfish Swordtails, a Bisherfish,and alot of Guppies.What fish will fight this monester and possibly live this Monester in my tank.😂😂😂😂😂
In hindi oh ladka😂
My first fish was a tiger oscar. He was pretty much a big tank puppy, he'd even let me rub him on his head.
I once bought this Tandanus Catfish that ate ALL of my guppies during quarantine. He grew so bloated that one day I found him dead with a ruptured stomach.
I've successfully kept Jardini with other species. They don't seem to care about bichir and catfish from my experience.
I made that mistake. 17 yrs old, had an established aquadcaped tank I spent 2 yrs to make and be happy with. Went into the fish store to buy bloodworms. Came out with a one eyed alligator gar. 10in big, thought my 80 gallon tank would be fine, within 3-4 months it destroyed alll my plants and hated anything in the tank with it. When I got the fish, day one relocated all other fish into a separate tank. When I went off to college, had to donate it to a friend who had a 250-300 gallon tank.
Be smart, do some research.
With their vivid colors, rowdy temperament, and with respect to their alkaline pH preferences, I think African cichlids are the nearest thing to a freshwater “marine” fish. Like, if you wanted a saltwater tank but without the additional requirements of saltwater setups….
I’m getting a tank and I plan on having 1 betta, 5 Cory Cats, 4 Kuhli loaches, and a few tetras(trying to figure out if I’m going for black neons or glow lights).
My Jardini killed off my Mangrove Jack the day before I was going to get rid of. Look up Mangrove Jack in Australia, awesome fish.
I had a really dumb moment last year and got a "goldfish" from a carnival and now i wake up to a small blue and yellow ghost carp looking at me like "oh.... Your still alive 😒" or trying to break the glass until i put smt over the tank (i gave her some tetra brand "pond food color flakes" and she turned blue and i love it)