I am part 107 certified. I live in a new development and have been photographing homeowners roofs to check for damaged tiles. I provide this service and return after the repair to verify it was done. It’s a valuable service the homeowners depend on me to do, and by grounding the drones the developer will get away with defective construction.
I wonder if the sponsors of the DFR bill realize that pretty-much everyone carries around a China-built audio & video recording device in their pocket, including in places far more sensitive than outdoor locations where drones are operated?
I've been saying this for a while now. This attempt to ban citizen drone operation is ALL ABOUT American greed. It's that simple. My DJIs aren't flying over, or even near, sensitive air space or infrastructure. Why? Because it's already not permitted. If they want to ban DJI and other China originating products, then let's just GO FOR IT and ban EVERYTHING that has ANY component manufactured in China.
@@0utcast Really! Is that why Apple Computer is consistently among the top 3 most valuable companies on the planet. Must be because their flagship products are garbage. 😅
Sadly I feel something really bad is on the horizon for us flying drones. I think we are in the window that is going to be never again much like us having the freedom of living before social media and cell phones. Appreciate these times and fly your hearts out and definitely advocate and sign petitions and forms and make your voices heard. Thanks Greg for getting this ALL out there!
I agree with what you say but as I'm 77 years old, Part 107, retired Air Force, the drone (business/hobby) is not the only thing going to the wayside. All we have to do is look around and see how much of our lives are being taken away. I am in no way trying to be political, you don't have to get political to see what's happening to our world. Our biggest lose is common sense.
Recently just bought my Dji 4 Pro and I live in NYC and will fight what I can, these politicians are getting ridiculous. Appreciate these videos and how informative they are, helped me get things started with the rules and regulations on drones.
By being tough on “Chinese drones” (or just China) they win 100-1000 votes from people that don’t have drones and hate China, but they may lose the votes of 5 that do. And they get huge contributions from drone companies that want to charge more and still be competitive, and get government grants. You pay them to create more expensive products and make more profit and get re-elected, while you go out of business. They offshore manufacturing, logistics, and support, so you can’t even benefit from those jobs. That’s the new American government model.
@@patrickdonegan9559 It came out 6-7 months ago but I just recently bought mines 3 days ago. I have no idea why they call it the Dji mini 4 pro. Could be due to the amount of autonomy it has or the omnidirectional cameras for collision avoidance. I purchased it over the 3 to track me as I ride and other features. I didn't get the version with the screen in the remote after seeing users talk about it being slow vs a phone.
The Surveyor Association of North Carolina is very protective and went after the GIS profession around 20-25 years ago. I think the final agreement was if you are a GIS professional with many years of experience, don't mark your work as certified, registered, or denote any degrees of accuracy.
No matter what side of the aisle one is on politically, this legislation is just nonsensical and appears to come from a place of being completely misinformed about real world usage. I'm definitely jumping in to do my part as well, we should all take a stand here.
I think that saying that the Stefanik's in the government are misinformed insinuates that somebody is playing them. On the other hand I think a more realistic scenario is that somebody is paying them...
I’m so proud I became American Citizen as I come from a totalitarian regime but going through all this is really disappointing. Makes us look like we are unable to cleanly compete so just ban what we’re competing to. Sounds like some freedom is being taken away. It’s a gift to our laziness and status quo. No different to a money handout that goes against quality at the end of the day. Where’s the free market way of living? At this point I don’t know if it’s a waste of time submitting petitions to our representatives after they already came back to me with a bunch of “reasons”, basically telling me to “f… off”!
Regarding the mapping in NC, as an engineer I understand that the data needs to be read and interpreted by a licensed professional. Just because someone has the tools does not make them qualified to do professional surveying work. It's another thing if he's simply collecting the data for a licensed surveyor for them to interpret, in which case this should not be an issue. Surveying firms hire unlicensed individuals to collect data for them all the time
None of that justifies the government engaging in blatant protectionism and repressing entrepreneurship. Licensing like this is a scam designed solely to protect existing businesses.
I suspect his error was in giving some sort of accuracy statement beyond “photo resolution of Xcm/pixel. But here’s the deal. I learned to navigate aircraft when airliners had navigators on the crew and we used sextants, dead reckoning, radar, etc to determine our position. Today modern technology lets you pull your phone out and get a position within a few feet. Aviation tech is even closer tolerances. And so those surveyors are desperately trying to hold on to their livelihoods which are an archaic artifact of history.
Thank you Greg for a very informative video. As I live in NC, both of the first two stories affect me directly. I went to DAA and sent the two letters! Thanks again!!
I am retired, but was involved in initial GIS efforts in West Virginia just before the state capital power brokers took over. “Professional” Surveyors organizations are in the business of preserving their monopoly. Long before this I knew an academically trained surveyor, who could never quite pass the licensing test. It turned out the surveyor, who would be in direct competition with him was the test scorer statewide!
I have a life time of building, and flying model aircraft of all sizes, Part 107 certified sUAS pilot, F.A.A. certified air traffic controller, former US Marine, and this bill is very disconcerting. It will basically destroy a hobby and/or possible business that I consider a earned privilege through out years as a PROFESSIONAL Pilot. I believe this is counter to the FAA act of 1958 that states emphatically " to provide for the regulation and PROMOTION of Civil Aviation in such a manner as to best FOSTER its development and safety, and to provide for the safe and efficient use of the airspace by both CIVIL and military aircraft, and for OTHER PURPOSES....whats next any hobby or business with Chinese manufactured equipment.
Thanks for the updates Greg and PI. We will continue to voice our concerns against these detrimental bills! If someone is doing maps and not for survey or official measurement purposes, it should be allowed. Anything requiring official measurements I would understand the need to be a licensed surveyor, etc. I map FD events for planning purposes. Something like this should not be a concern because it is for reference, just a bunch of photos stitched together.
Im a land surveyor. I think if someone who owns the land wants the topo just to get an idea of water flow it should be legal for anyone to do. But if you're building or anything like that it should be done by a surveyor for verification of accuracy.
I could be wrong, but it sounds like the guy in question was doing much more than simple photography and getting more into the measurement and accuracy domain that surveyors and engineers lay claim to, possibly with good reason, historically speaking anyway.
Drones today simply cannot achieve typical land surveyor accuracy. Not even close. That could change one day. Drones have their place in some aspects of engineering, but not land surveying. To qualify, drones can effect crude vertical control (elevations), but not horizontal (boundary).
That's not how it works. "Crazy" politician puts out shockingly "off base" bill. Gets it in the mindspace. Leaves people to debate. "Reasonable" politicians "dial it back" to a place that would have already been bad if the crazy politician hadn't introduced it in the first place. You move the bar knowingly too far, and "meet in the middle"
It should not be the fact that he's a drone pilot but rather that he is not a licensed surveyor. Surveys are often used in legal documents which is why the methods should be approved and surveyors licensed. Even if a survey is initially just for private use it often, inevitably, ends up as evidence in legal proceedings.
We use a lot of electronic equipment in the United States that's manufactured In China. Why do they seem to only be focused on banning drones made in China??
Your Soundbar isn't sending data back to the Chinese Communist Party. DJI has admitted they have to turn data over to the CCP when requested. They could move their operations, but I'm sure the CCP wouldn't allow that. The data the CCP is getting on every western nation from DJI could be problematic in ways hard to imagine.
I was thinking the same thing I bet that company's like Motorola Isabella and many others would be greatly affected because of Chinese components. Motorola is actually owned by Lenovo, a Chinese company. What about all the communication stuff in modern automobiles? I bet a lot of it comes from China.
As a Landscape Architect there are many times I need site related information such as topo or for inventory purposes that hiring a surveyor is not needed. I disagree with all mapping being performed by a surveyor. I do my own topo surveying with a laser level when precise data is not necessary. The drone offers me the ability to map the site and choose which information is important to the specific project. I would not perform a boundary survey as that is something that could end up in court, but to say pilots can not perform their own topo, inventory analysis, cut & fill calculations is ridiculous in my opinion. It will only add to the costs of many projects and extend the wait time unnecessarily.
I completely agree with mapping having to be done by an official surveyor... at least any mapping that would be done and used for legal purposes. The problem with a non-certified surveyor is when it comes to property boundries and other such situations where someone would try and use the data to dispute a boundry or other related dispute. If you aren't certified your data won't hold up in court. .. Now if you're simply offering "general" mapping services for someone to get an overview of their property then no issue as long as it's stated that it can't be used for legal disputes or in court.
I agree. My Dad used to do that kind of surveying on the ground for people who just wanted to know if proposed buildings would fit in setbacks, or suspected an error in their survey. If he found something and they wanted to pursue it they had to hire a licensed surveyor. From those days I can certify that many "licensed surveyors" don't even do basic math checks, much less accurate surveys.
Wow this is crazy i was excited because I am studying for the parts 107 to get the certification i guess it wouldnt be good now to get it now ? This is such a bummer
As a licensed professional surveyor in the state of Georgia I fully support NC's decision to protect the profession and in doing so protect the public.
On one hand certainly yes. On the other, protection of the public is not a catch phrase. A bad survey could ruin someone's life if they invest their life's savings on a bad deal. If it is a LICENSED surveyor's fault you have recourse. If you have an amateur at fault there is no recourse. If they don't have a license they won't have insurance either.
Great content as always. Government overreach is getting scary here. Thank you for the link to DAA as we've been sending our letters in. Great news that they're having an effect.
Can you clarify for me? In 5 years the bill will ban use or ban import? If use, it seems difficult to police. If import only, it seems like there will be a run on DJI drones. A spike in sales...now.
A couple of things, 1) I would think each locality or state have a registration for licensed Drone pilots. Then we get issued a card stating we are legal in the state. I would also like to see drone operators have to log in their ID before lift-off occurs. 2) How about any surveying needs to have licensed surveyor with drone operator during the project. Satisfies VLOS requirement as well as a safety factor.
Hmmm I just got my 107. In fact I’m still waiting for the permanent license. I have a 1” sensor with a mechanical shutter (20 mp), SDK (just flew my first autonomous mapping mission and am waiting for the map to process). Oh, but I bought a used Phantom 4 Pro, extra batteries (6 total), 4 sets of props, rapid charger, standard charger, cigar lighter charger, ND filters, IPad mini, and a new rolling case for less than a Grand.
The NC case is not an over reach. This case is centered in the profession of surveying, the drone use is secondary. This is somewhat common to see individuals providing surveying services without a license. He will likely lose his appeal.
@@PilotInstitute that depends on the regulations of each jurisdiction. these cases have occurred before and typically the Board of Registration intervenes with cease and desist or other more stringent action
@@PilotInstitute It's not unusual for the government to come up with it's own definition of something and the government's definition is usually counter intuitive to everyone except the government. This is how people get charged with driving while intoxicated for sitting in a parked car on their private property, with no intention of going anywhere. The car could even be disabled literally unable to move but the government doesn't care. People even get DUI for utilizing something like a scooter, bicycle or wheelchair Because those things meet the government's definition of a vehicle.
If the data is presented as a survey I would agree. However consider this. In USA if one provides a value on piece of real estate they need a real estate appraiser license. At the same time any real estate agent or broker can perform a BPO or CMA. Broker Price Opinion - Comparable Market Analysis. The BPO or CMA never comes to a value conclusion. Every appraisal does come to a value conclusion as of a specific date. Appraisal(licensed to render value opinion and provide other services) - Agent/Broker(licensed to sell real estate and provide other related services). Surveyor(licensed to render professional survey and other related services) Part 107 Drone operator ( Licensed to fly drone and provide varied services suited to the device ). IOM the Part 107 mapper should have to provide whatever data they provide along with a disclaimer that it is not a survey, does not replace a survey, and that a survey is up to the client should they need absolute accuracy from a licensed survey professional. If the drone pilot presents themselves as a surveyor or does not make it absolutely clear they are not surveying then I feel they are in the wrong. The analogy is. Appraiser - Value = XXX$ on YYYdate. Agent -- your property looks like we can list for a range with a $50K spread. Surveyor - These are the specific boundaries of your land. Drone Pilot - Your land runs near this creek, you may have 100 yards between the big oak tree and your soy bean field. The big grassy area looks to be well within the boundaries of your property based on the deed narrative. Only a survey can tell for certain. So for the Drone operator I would say if they are providing high detail, claiming high accuracy --AND-- are doing so along borders, then they are pretty much putting themselves out as surveyors. IF however they know they are well within property boundaries AND/OR they disclaim the accuracy of borders. Then it should be ok. It boils down to client needs and clients being informed as to exactly what they are getting. It's not just the drone pilots, it's the clients driving this also.
Hi I am the pilot in NC that the "mapping case" is about. Just fyi, its not that cut and dry. I was not trying to provide surveying services. I was trying to provide progression maps for construction sites. What the NC board stepped in and did was...said that I could not deliver any map (even with a Legal disclaimer saying this is for visual purposes only and not surveying and I am not a licensed surveyor) to any customer. Meaning drone deploy offers a subscription that anyone can subscribe to, you do not have to be a licensed surveyor to subscribe or use these tools. There are tools on their website for measuring, volumetric etc. I was using drone deploy to create the map for construction sites to watch the progression of their job, no measurements were being performed. The NC board of surveyors stepped in and said...."Due to these tools being available, Michael (me) cannot deliver any photos with gps data in it. (All photos have gps data in them) to any customer because someone may use the tools from Drone Deploy to measure and then submit it to the state to get a permit, build a building that may fall later and harm someone. Which is not possible because you can't get a permit unless the "surveyor" is a "licensed surveyor" which I never claim to be not to mention have a disclaimer saying that I am not. So basically because Drone Deploy has these tools available as does google maps (measuring distance). The board says the only way I can deliver a "photo/map". Is to remove all the dat from the photos before I deliver it to the client on the account that they may go use the tools that Drone deploy offers. So to parallel an example. It would be the same as the state stepping in and telling a hardware store.."you are not allowed to sell hammers anymore because someone may go use that hammer to harm or kill someone, even if you have a disclaimer on it saying "this hammer is for building and carpentry work only and is not to be used for a weapon." It makes no sense and is clearly a government entity that is over reaching their authority. The story makes it out like I was delivering "surveying information and trying to pass it off as an "official survey." Which couldn't be any further from the truth. Take it from me, because its my company and I am fully aware what I was offering and the steps I was taking to make sure people knew "this was for visual purposes only." There are 40 some odd states that have no problem with their drone pilots doing what I was doing and they have never caused public harm or caused any danger to anyone. They also state that I can't even take photos using Drone deploy even if the client themselves have their own subscription to drone deploy simply because the tools are available on their platform.🙄. NC board of surveying are just over reaching their authority. Thats it plain and simple. So please know the whole story before you comment on what I was doing. Believe it or not..."The media twist and misleads information."🙄
Every time you ask i write another letter. This ban would put me out of business. A business which i love and have a lot of time and money invested in. Thanks Greg et al.
Congress could care less about the small companies that don’t donate to their campaigns, or the people that didn’t use to be their Chief of Staff that work in the drone industry.
Greg, thank you... Dol you think this will lead to disqualification of our 107 licenses? Also,,,I need to buy a new drone. I have been holding off because of the DJI potential ban. Recommendations? Looking at DJI Air 2-3 or mini Pro 4 thank you I have my 107, but not sure how I will be using my drone, except for "good"
Why would it disqualify your part 107? There's no bill that is seeking to nullify pilot licenses. If you're saying will the DJI ban bill also ban DJI drone use for part 107 pilots then yes.
I agree, no way the Air 4 (or Air 3S?) would have a mechanical shutter. And thanks for the link and info on the advocacy alliance. Clicked and submitted.
Nope! The issue is that in China all companies are 20% owned by the government. This means that the Chinese government as an owner has access to all data collections. 😮 which should concern you greatly. The drone is taking GPS and video and facial scans of you and all it sees and interacts with and then sends that data to the Chinese government. We in the US are not the 1st to ban Chinese equipment. The EU and AUS and all western countries have already ripped out all Chinese made telecommunications equipment from the network and banned phones in those countries. We are just now catching up. N
They could simply stand up a subsidiary in the US that they are minority owner of and still receive profits from, sell IP to like they are starting to do already, etc. We will see what comes about, but I have to agree with the idea that simply putting in a tax and a ban with no clear path to a working solution on the other end is politically, and given the Congresswoman's staff is populated with US manufacturers, financially motivated. This is the crazy world we are living in as this would have sunk her career just 10-15 years ago.
I always appreciate it when the state tells people that they can't do math without a license. While I understand why these licenses exist it I do think it is sometimes a little out of hand.
Exactly, everyone should be able to create a photography-based non-engineering product. Can’t be a precision GPS-centric product used for construction, surveying, or legal land boundary purposes, etc.
It’s not the product that should be regulated, it’s the USE of the product. In this case, I wonder what the customer did with the output. If it was for informational purposes, without any “certified” label, then this is clearly overreaching on the part of the state.
I will be the happiest US pilot when 7/25 rolls around and my wife and I move to Canada. Letters sent via the DAA links this morning. Thank Greg for the heads up on these bills.😬
Canada and all US allies always follow whatever the US does. We banned Huawei and and ZTE and so did Canada. DJI will suffer the same fate in Canada if history is any indication.
Please consider the long term ramifications of targeting specific manufacturing and product development entities. Where does this type of unfair targeting of a successful and technically superior product end? More importantly, what precedent does this set? This misguided and blatant attempt to exclude a very successful and superior device flies in the face of the very platform that our capitalist economy rests upon. Competition in the marketplace fosters innovation, growth, and profit. There are negative consequences to allowing “monopolistic” practices, which is really what is behind this attempt. This feels very much like the “McCarthyism” of the 50’s. Fear mongering does not make our nation stronger and safer. The hard work of our people, anchored by a free society, fosters our continued growth, safety, and prosperity.
They can easily pass this with earmarks which is the scary thing. Remember they passed legislation that allows for companies to take your house if you stream something that does not have expressed permission from content owners whether you are aware or not.
Question: I sent my Mavic Air 2(2nd one I’ve owned) in for repair. RTH stopped working. They sent back a different drone. I had ‘connection’ issues so I callled tech support. They resolved the problem on the phone. While the tech was on the phone, I asked if they had plans to make firmware update with RID for Mavic Air2. She said mine is equipped with it. Is that possible? How do I check?
I was looking at the Mavic 3 pro, but I have been concerned about this Congressional bill. Do you think I should press forward? Or hold? Is there logistical support I could consider with my boss for my work with him? His company is installing solar panels. Would there be a way I could look behind the shingles under a home to see the support beams?
Got to love it 😒they know banning the drone will make them look bad so let’s make a bill that increases the amount you pay for a drone so the masses can’t buy it and they will blame DJI for it 🙄 thank you for keeping the community informed 😊
I think we are fighting the "old practices" of drone use which undoubtedly tainted the commercial use of flying drones. The rules regarding use and safety, put out by the FAA and supported by most users (recreational/commercial) are really quite clear. If you got your license in the last 2-3 years and fly as a responsible pilot should, no one can dispute your methods. Most guidelines are made to make it apparent, you are the Part 107.. and not Joe "fly anytime.. anywhere". Its going to take some time to clean up this "tainted" history and have the respect of everyone viewing the industry.. be it legislators or your local Susan. As for "Chinese drones" or their manufacture of drone parts.. build a better American made drone.. and "WE THE PEOPLE".. will buy!
I think someone other than the DAA needs to take charge of the advocacy against Stefanik &Co. When you clearly state that the DAA is sponsored by DJI and it website maintain by DJI, the DOJ may find cause to support Stefanik’s claim. In the least, it feeds the CCP vs. Stefanik perception. IMHO, Pilot Institute has the largest following and should take up the mantle. At a minimum, encourage people to go face to face in the local Congressional Representative’s office and have a chat with the staffers or the Congressman in town. Be professional. Vic should arrange a rally in Washington.
If they ban DJI from communications channels then it would be illegal to fly your Mini 2 and Mini 3 Pro. This is what the ban DJI bills seeks to do. Your drones wouldn't be worth so much after that
If either bill passes, yes most certainly some would try to capitalize on the opportunity. It will still be worse drones for more money and delayed tech
3:05 "Left to buy drones that have been over-inflated without any grants to buy them" That's the best case scenario. On the other hand it's likely that there will be no suitable drones available to buy, period.
Excellent video. Will go to express my concerns about Done restrictions to the appropriate elected officials. I really like Ruko's F11 series and the customer service personnel. They have come up with a charging port for charging multiple drone items at the same time. Like Remote ID module, controller, and drones battery at the same time and quickly. It's reasonably priced and for a recreational flyer like myself, well it's better than lugging around a generator to In-&-Out burgers. Check it out. When I want to eat, I eat. When I want to fly, I fly. Better than being bored and waiting for my RID to charge. Have an exciting day! 😊
I can't watch these videos before bedtime. It gets me upset, the talk of these bans. And I can't say what I want to say on this stupid platform but I'm about ready to throw some stuff.
Would be easier to enforce than flying without RID. If they really wanted to, they could just go around with a radio receiver picking up signal at DJI's communication frequency. That video transmitter blasts that frequency for miles. You could foxcatch DJI pilots very easily if they wanted to
Here's a thought... DJI wants help from Pilots, so let's help each other. Release the SDK for the Air 2s! We can already use Dronelink for autonomous fights, but I'd rather Drone Deploy, there are less hiccups. Having said that, there is no way that I am buying the Mavic 3E unless A. I win a significant amount in the Lottery or B. DJI has a big price drop! We all know that the latter is less likely! DJI is too damn greedy, they're already at the top of the market by far... REWARD YOUR CONSUMERS!
I’ve been thinking about getting into this market and manufacture a US drone. I’ve manufactured many products before, but to develop a drone as good as DJI it will be well over $1M.
Its not just the manufacturing but the ongoing support as well. The software development alone would be millions of dollars. The ROI just isn't there unless you have a worldwide market.
Hey here’s an idea ban a drone company that has no ill will towards this country that comes from a country that is on questionable terms with this country. Their majority market is here in the US where clearly they have earned the right to be called the leaders in the drone industry worldwide. Now picture this somebody comes along and takes away your market share by force. What options do they have left. Currently consumer drones which we’ve all seen have been used with devastating effects in the Ukraine and Russia with little modifications, can you imagine what DJI could do for the military sector. That sector being China and any other country other than the US that wants to purchase a drone of this caliber. If DJI wants to survive as a company they may have to sell their products to other markets and as for military or whatever the purpose they may not have any form of tracking or registration, I mean seriously you think the government registers their spy drones. Just like black market guns black market drones could eventually become a reality opening up a whole new world of devastation to any country. Ours being the most likely target as these stupid politicians with their heads up their asses can’t leave well enough alone. There’s going to be a lot of angry people out there if they pass this ban and who knows what they may do in response to this ban. I’m picturing kamikaze drones at politicians homes and government facilities. That’s our own people and that’s not to say what terrorists or anyone else wishing to make a statement could do. They claim to have made advances in drone detection and defense but the truth is a drone can fly under the radar and without FAA regulations these drones would be invisible until it was too late. Good job to all those who oppose DJI drones and any other Chinese drone company for giving supporters of the country a reason to dislike you. Change starts with people but when you indiscriminately single out a group because of where they’re from then I don’t know what to say about that. We all know about that in this country. We even went to war with a man like that, what was his name Adolph something or other. Post a list of these politicians and let the chips fall where they may.
I'm just going to keep complaining about using the "premiere" feature. I click on new Pilot Institute videos as soon as they come up, and I always get these darn premieres. >.>
This is something you are just going to have to accept. It’s part of TH-cam and that’s really the end of it. Your complaining doesn’t do anything but get you worked up over something you can’t control. You got this
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I am part 107 certified. I live in a new development and have been photographing homeowners roofs to check for damaged tiles. I provide this service and return after the repair to verify it was done. It’s a valuable service the homeowners depend on me to do, and by grounding the drones the developer will get away with defective construction.
I wonder if the sponsors of the DFR bill realize that pretty-much everyone carries around a China-built audio & video recording device in their pocket, including in places far more sensitive than outdoor locations where drones are operated?
I've been saying this for a while now.
This attempt to ban citizen drone operation is ALL ABOUT American greed. It's that simple. My DJIs aren't flying over, or even near, sensitive air space or infrastructure. Why? Because it's already not permitted.
If they want to ban DJI and other China originating products, then let's just GO FOR IT and ban EVERYTHING that has ANY component manufactured in China.
My samsung phone is made in south Korea not in China like iGarbage
@@0utcast Apple is an American company, Samsung IS NOT!
@@0utcast Really! Is that why Apple Computer is consistently among the top 3 most valuable companies on the planet. Must be because their flagship products are garbage. 😅
I'm curious how much Chinese items these reps have in their homes...
Sadly I feel something really bad is on the horizon for us flying drones. I think we are in the window that is going to be never again much like us having the freedom of living before social media and cell phones. Appreciate these times and fly your hearts out and definitely advocate and sign petitions and forms and make your voices heard. Thanks Greg for getting this ALL out there!
I agree with what you say but as I'm 77 years old, Part 107, retired Air Force, the drone (business/hobby) is not the only thing going to the wayside. All we have to do is look around and see how much of our lives are being taken away. I am in no way trying to be political, you don't have to get political to see what's happening to our world. Our biggest lose is common sense.
All RC products will be targeted soon
Thanks for keeping us informed!
Recently just bought my Dji 4 Pro and I live in NYC and will fight what I can, these politicians are getting ridiculous. Appreciate these videos and how informative they are, helped me get things started with the rules and regulations on drones.
By being tough on “Chinese drones” (or just China) they win 100-1000 votes from people that don’t have drones and hate China, but they may lose the votes of 5 that do. And they get huge contributions from drone companies that want to charge more and still be competitive, and get government grants. You pay them to create more expensive products and make more profit and get re-elected, while you go out of business. They offshore manufacturing, logistics, and support, so you can’t even benefit from those jobs. That’s the new American government model.
wow - is that a new one? dji4 Pro sounds better than ever!
@@patrickdonegan9559 It came out 6-7 months ago but I just recently bought mines 3 days ago. I have no idea why they call it the Dji mini 4 pro. Could be due to the amount of autonomy it has or the omnidirectional cameras for collision avoidance. I purchased it over the 3 to track me as I ride and other features.
I didn't get the version with the screen in the remote after seeing users talk about it being slow vs a phone.
Time to show these politicians the door.
Or something else
The Surveyor Association of North Carolina is very protective and went after the GIS profession around 20-25 years ago. I think the final agreement was if you are a GIS professional with many years of experience, don't mark your work as certified, registered, or denote any degrees of accuracy.
No matter what side of the aisle one is on politically, this legislation is just nonsensical and appears to come from a place of being completely misinformed about real world usage. I'm definitely jumping in to do my part as well, we should all take a stand here.
I think that saying that the Stefanik's in the government are misinformed insinuates that somebody is playing them.
On the other hand I think a more realistic scenario is that somebody is paying them...
We are ruled by psychopathic criminals.
drones don’t just save lives they save my soul
I’m so proud I became American Citizen as I come from a totalitarian regime but going through all this is really disappointing. Makes us look like we are unable to cleanly compete so just ban what we’re competing to. Sounds like some freedom is being taken away. It’s a gift to our laziness and status quo. No different to a money handout that goes against quality at the end of the day. Where’s the free market way of living?
At this point I don’t know if it’s a waste of time submitting petitions to our representatives after they already came back to me with a bunch of “reasons”, basically telling me to “f… off”!
The US so called "free market is a myth".
I’m afraid we are marching straight towards communism
Regarding the mapping in NC, as an engineer I understand that the data needs to be read and interpreted by a licensed professional. Just because someone has the tools does not make them qualified to do professional surveying work. It's another thing if he's simply collecting the data for a licensed surveyor for them to interpret, in which case this should not be an issue. Surveying firms hire unlicensed individuals to collect data for them all the time
None of that justifies the government engaging in blatant protectionism and repressing entrepreneurship. Licensing like this is a scam designed solely to protect existing businesses.
I suspect his error was in giving some sort of accuracy statement beyond “photo resolution of Xcm/pixel.
But here’s the deal. I learned to navigate aircraft when airliners had navigators on the crew and we used sextants, dead reckoning, radar, etc to determine our position.
Today modern technology lets you pull your phone out and get a position within a few feet.
Aviation tech is even closer tolerances.
And so those surveyors are desperately trying to hold on to their livelihoods which are an archaic artifact of history.
Thank you Greg for a very informative video. As I live in NC, both of the first two stories affect me directly.
I went to DAA and sent the two letters!
Thanks again!!
I am retired, but was involved in initial GIS efforts in West Virginia just before the state capital power brokers took over. “Professional” Surveyors organizations are in the business of preserving their monopoly. Long before this I knew an academically trained surveyor, who could never quite pass the licensing test. It turned out the surveyor, who would be in direct competition with him was the test scorer statewide!
Thank you for keeping us up-to-date on all those worrisome developments and what we can do to help defend drone-related hobbies and businesses!
Love these updates. I look forward to them each week. Thank you and Drone On!
I have a life time of building, and flying model aircraft of all sizes, Part 107 certified sUAS pilot, F.A.A. certified air traffic controller, former US Marine, and this bill is very disconcerting. It will basically destroy a hobby and/or possible business that I consider a earned privilege through out years as a PROFESSIONAL Pilot. I believe this is counter to the FAA act of 1958 that states emphatically " to provide for the regulation and PROMOTION of Civil Aviation in such a manner as to best FOSTER its development and safety, and to provide for the safe and efficient use of the airspace by both CIVIL and military aircraft, and for OTHER PURPOSES....whats next any hobby or business with Chinese manufactured equipment.
Thanks for the updates Greg and PI. We will continue to voice our concerns against these detrimental bills! If someone is doing maps and not for survey or official measurement purposes, it should be allowed. Anything requiring official measurements I would understand the need to be a licensed surveyor, etc. I map FD events for planning purposes. Something like this should not be a concern because it is for reference, just a bunch of photos stitched together.
Im a land surveyor. I think if someone who owns the land wants the topo just to get an idea of water flow it should be legal for anyone to do. But if you're building or anything like that it should be done by a surveyor for verification of accuracy.
I have a drone mapping company and I work for surveyors doing raw data collection. I do not survey, I make the surveyors job easier.
I could be wrong, but it sounds like the guy in question was doing much more than simple photography and getting more into the measurement and accuracy domain that surveyors and engineers lay claim to, possibly with good reason, historically speaking anyway.
Drones today simply cannot achieve typical land surveyor accuracy. Not even close. That could change one day. Drones have their place in some aspects of engineering, but not land surveying. To qualify, drones can effect crude vertical control (elevations), but not horizontal (boundary).
@@bwmcelya I think that’s in inaccurate summation and conclusion. Even surveyors are using them very effectively, with ground based components.
If you aren't establishing boundaries what's the problem?
Connect the Dots. Look who is on Skydio's public policy board. The same guy use to serve and work for Stefanik's office.
Along with emails with their personal story's everyone should also be calling! Don't be afraid it helps a lot speaking to their staffers directly!
Stephanic is reaching. Her ideas are too far off base. Other legislators will see through her nonsense and vote accordingly.
That's not how it works. "Crazy" politician puts out shockingly "off base" bill. Gets it in the mindspace. Leaves people to debate. "Reasonable" politicians "dial it back" to a place that would have already been bad if the crazy politician hadn't introduced it in the first place.
You move the bar knowingly too far, and "meet in the middle"
It should not be the fact that he's a drone pilot but rather that he is not a licensed surveyor. Surveys are often used in legal documents which is why the methods should be approved and surveyors licensed. Even if a survey is initially just for private use it often, inevitably, ends up as evidence in legal proceedings.
Drone Advocacy Alliance sent!
We use a lot of electronic equipment in the United States that's manufactured In China. Why do they seem to only be focused on banning drones made in China??
Your Soundbar isn't sending data back to the Chinese Communist Party. DJI has admitted they have to turn data over to the CCP when requested. They could move their operations, but I'm sure the CCP wouldn't allow that. The data the CCP is getting on every western nation from DJI could be problematic in ways hard to imagine.
I was thinking the same thing I bet that company's like Motorola Isabella and many others would be greatly affected because of Chinese components. Motorola is actually owned by Lenovo, a Chinese company.
What about all the communication stuff in modern automobiles? I bet a lot of it comes from China.
Could it be that they fly and could get more data? I have no clue
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Nobody knows because the alarmist haven't explained it. They are creating the issue out of thin air. Ot doesn't really exist.
Audio surveillance Alexa , it’s made in China. No shit. Don’t need to fly to collect information on Americans.
Thank you Greg! ;-)
As a Landscape Architect there are many times I need site related information such as topo or for inventory purposes that hiring a surveyor is not needed. I disagree with all mapping being performed by a surveyor. I do my own topo surveying with a laser level when precise data is not necessary. The drone offers me the ability to map the site and choose which information is important to the specific project. I would not perform a boundary survey as that is something that could end up in court, but to say pilots can not perform their own topo, inventory analysis, cut & fill calculations is ridiculous in my opinion. It will only add to the costs of many projects and extend the wait time unnecessarily.
I completely agree with mapping having to be done by an official surveyor... at least any mapping that would be done and used for legal purposes. The problem with a non-certified surveyor is when it comes to property boundries and other such situations where someone would try and use the data to dispute a boundry or other related dispute. If you aren't certified your data won't hold up in court. .. Now if you're simply offering "general" mapping services for someone to get an overview of their property then no issue as long as it's stated that it can't be used for legal disputes or in court.
I agree. My Dad used to do that kind of surveying on the ground for people who just wanted to know if proposed buildings would fit in setbacks, or suspected an error in their survey. If he found something and they wanted to pursue it they had to hire a licensed surveyor. From those days I can certify that many "licensed surveyors" don't even do basic math checks, much less accurate surveys.
If you aren't establishing boundaries what's the problem? Mapping and surveying are two different things!
Great work . Keep it up!
I really didn't need another reason to dislike Stefanik...but here you go
Thanks!
Happy Flying!
I've called my senators in my are but what else can I do before June 12 when this goes to hearing?
Wow this is crazy i was excited because I am studying for the parts 107 to get the certification i guess it wouldnt be good now to get it now ? This is such a bummer
Drooling for the mavic 4! 🤞🤞🤞
As a licensed professional surveyor in the state of Georgia I fully support NC's decision to protect the profession and in doing so protect the public.
Protect the surveyors from competitors, you mean.
On one hand certainly yes. On the other, protection of the public is not a catch phrase. A bad survey could ruin someone's life if they invest their life's savings on a bad deal. If it is a LICENSED surveyor's fault you have recourse. If you have an amateur at fault there is no recourse. If they don't have a license they won't have insurance either.
@@jtbaker2674 Lots of assumptions there. "Protection of the public" is an excuse for government overreach, nothing more.
Great content as always. Government overreach is getting scary here. Thank you for the link to DAA as we've been sending our letters in. Great news that they're having an effect.
Can you clarify for me? In 5 years the bill will ban use or ban import? If use, it seems difficult to police. If import only, it seems like there will be a run on DJI drones. A spike in sales...now.
A couple of things,
1) I would think each locality or state have a registration for licensed Drone pilots. Then we get issued a card stating we are legal in the state. I would also like to see drone operators have to log in their ID before lift-off occurs.
2) How about any surveying needs to have licensed surveyor with drone operator during the project. Satisfies VLOS requirement as well as a safety factor.
Hmmm
I just got my 107. In fact I’m still waiting for the permanent license.
I have a 1” sensor with a mechanical shutter (20 mp), SDK (just flew my first autonomous mapping mission and am waiting for the map to process).
Oh, but I bought a used Phantom 4 Pro, extra batteries (6 total), 4 sets of props, rapid charger, standard charger, cigar lighter charger, ND filters, IPad mini, and a new rolling case for less than a Grand.
The NC case is not an over reach. This case is centered in the profession of surveying, the drone use is secondary. This is somewhat common to see individuals providing surveying services without a license. He will likely lose his appeal.
But is providing a 2D map not used for surveying purposes actually providing a surveying service?
@@PilotInstitute that depends on the regulations of each jurisdiction. these cases have occurred before and typically the Board of Registration intervenes with cease and desist or other more stringent action
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It's not unusual for the government to come up with it's own definition of something and the government's definition is usually counter intuitive to everyone except the government.
This is how people get charged with driving while intoxicated for sitting in a parked car on their private property, with no intention of going anywhere. The car could even be disabled literally unable to move but the government doesn't care.
People even get DUI for utilizing something like a scooter, bicycle or wheelchair Because those things meet the government's definition of a vehicle.
If the data is presented as a survey I would agree. However consider this. In USA if one provides a value on piece of real estate they need a real estate appraiser license. At the same time any real estate agent or broker can perform a BPO or CMA. Broker Price Opinion - Comparable Market Analysis. The BPO or CMA never comes to a value conclusion. Every appraisal does come to a value conclusion as of a specific date. Appraisal(licensed to render value opinion and provide other services) - Agent/Broker(licensed to sell real estate and provide other related services). Surveyor(licensed to render professional survey and other related services) Part 107 Drone operator ( Licensed to fly drone and provide varied services suited to the device ). IOM the Part 107 mapper should have to provide whatever data they provide along with a disclaimer that it is not a survey, does not replace a survey, and that a survey is up to the client should they need absolute accuracy from a licensed survey professional. If the drone pilot presents themselves as a surveyor or does not make it absolutely clear they are not surveying then I feel they are in the wrong. The analogy is. Appraiser - Value = XXX$ on YYYdate. Agent -- your property looks like we can list for a range with a $50K spread. Surveyor - These are the specific boundaries of your land. Drone Pilot - Your land runs near this creek, you may have 100 yards between the big oak tree and your soy bean field. The big grassy area looks to be well within the boundaries of your property based on the deed narrative. Only a survey can tell for certain. So for the Drone operator I would say if they are providing high detail, claiming high accuracy --AND-- are doing so along borders, then they are pretty much putting themselves out as surveyors. IF however they know they are well within property boundaries AND/OR they disclaim the accuracy of borders. Then it should be ok. It boils down to client needs and clients being informed as to exactly what they are getting. It's not just the drone pilots, it's the clients driving this also.
Hi I am the pilot in NC that the "mapping case" is about. Just fyi, its not that cut and dry. I was not trying to provide surveying services. I was trying to provide progression maps for construction sites. What the NC board stepped in and did was...said that I could not deliver any map (even with a Legal disclaimer saying this is for visual purposes only and not surveying and I am not a licensed surveyor) to any customer. Meaning drone deploy offers a subscription that anyone can subscribe to, you do not have to be a licensed surveyor to subscribe or use these tools. There are tools on their website for measuring, volumetric etc. I was using drone deploy to create the map for construction sites to watch the progression of their job, no measurements were being performed. The NC board of surveyors stepped in and said...."Due to these tools being available, Michael (me) cannot deliver any photos with gps data in it. (All photos have gps data in them) to any customer because someone may use the tools from Drone Deploy to measure and then submit it to the state to get a permit, build a building that may fall later and harm someone. Which is not possible because you can't get a permit unless the "surveyor" is a "licensed surveyor" which I never claim to be not to mention have a disclaimer saying that I am not. So basically because Drone Deploy has these tools available as does google maps (measuring distance). The board says the only way I can deliver a "photo/map". Is to remove all the dat from the photos before I deliver it to the client on the account that they may go use the tools that Drone deploy offers. So to parallel an example. It would be the same as the state stepping in and telling a hardware store.."you are not allowed to sell hammers anymore because someone may go use that hammer to harm or kill someone, even if you have a disclaimer on it saying "this hammer is for building and carpentry work only and is not to be used for a weapon." It makes no sense and is clearly a government entity that is over reaching their authority. The story makes it out like I was delivering "surveying information and trying to pass it off as an "official survey." Which couldn't be any further from the truth. Take it from me, because its my company and I am fully aware what I was offering and the steps I was taking to make sure people knew "this was for visual purposes only." There are 40 some odd states that have no problem with their drone pilots doing what I was doing and they have never caused public harm or caused any danger to anyone. They also state that I can't even take photos using Drone deploy even if the client themselves have their own subscription to drone deploy simply because the tools are available on their platform.🙄. NC board of surveying are just over reaching their authority. Thats it plain and simple. So please know the whole story before you comment on what I was doing. Believe it or not..."The media twist and misleads information."🙄
Every time you ask i write another letter. This ban would put me out of business. A business which i love and have a lot of time and money invested in. Thanks Greg et al.
Congress could care less about the small companies that don’t donate to their campaigns, or the people that didn’t use to be their Chief of Staff that work in the drone industry.
Letters sent to the House and the Senate. Thank you for raising awareness.
Keep up the good work.
Great show Greg, thank you
Good to see you finally are opening your eyes to the government and their schemes
Yes, Elise Stefanik, An Election Denying MAGA Minion.
Greg, thank you... Dol you think this will lead to disqualification of our 107 licenses? Also,,,I need to buy a new drone. I have been holding off because of the DJI potential ban. Recommendations? Looking at DJI Air 2-3 or mini Pro 4 thank you I have my 107, but not sure how I will be using my drone, except for "good"
Why would it disqualify your part 107? There's no bill that is seeking to nullify pilot licenses. If you're saying will the DJI ban bill also ban DJI drone use for part 107 pilots then yes.
Stephanik is a real piece of work. She’s way out in right field.
Nah her behavior is right at home in Washington
I agree, no way the Air 4 (or Air 3S?) would have a mechanical shutter.
And thanks for the link and info on the advocacy alliance. Clicked and submitted.
Thanks for the legislation update. I have made my voice known.
I'm an aspiring drone pilot - sent a letter to my representatives to not make it an impossible hobby in the future!
I wonder if DJI created a drone manufacturing plant in the US if this would suffice with compliancy?
Nope! The issue is that in China all companies are 20% owned by the government. This means that the Chinese government as an owner has access to all data collections. 😮 which should concern you greatly. The drone is taking GPS and video and facial scans of you and all it sees and interacts with and then sends that data to the Chinese government. We in the US are not the 1st to ban Chinese equipment. The EU and AUS and all western countries have already ripped out all Chinese made telecommunications equipment from the network and banned phones in those countries. We are just now catching up. N
They could simply stand up a subsidiary in the US that they are minority owner of and still receive profits from, sell IP to like they are starting to do already, etc. We will see what comes about, but I have to agree with the idea that simply putting in a tax and a ban with no clear path to a working solution on the other end is politically, and given the Congresswoman's staff is populated with US manufacturers, financially motivated. This is the crazy world we are living in as this would have sunk her career just 10-15 years ago.
It's not the hardwear its the software. A motor is just coils of wire and magnets etc
Well need to get chips and everything built within the states to
Or Mexico, or Canada. Manufacturers won’t use expensive American labor.
Thank you Greg
Wow I’m in NC and wanted to get into mapping
Great round up. Ngl, I'd get the air 4 in a heartbeat. 3 had a subpar camera imo
Thanks Greg
The U.S. drone available is made by Teal. It costs $25,000. There is another option in the works estimated at $8,000.
Teal is a military drone.
I always appreciate it when the state tells people that they can't do math without a license. While I understand why these licenses exist it I do think it is sometimes a little out of hand.
Exactly, everyone should be able to create a photography-based non-engineering product. Can’t be a precision GPS-centric product used for construction, surveying, or legal land boundary purposes, etc.
It’s not the product that should be regulated, it’s the USE of the product. In this case, I wonder what the customer did with the output. If it was for informational purposes, without any “certified” label, then this is clearly overreaching on the part of the state.
Good Job!
I will be the happiest US pilot when 7/25 rolls around and my wife and I move to Canada. Letters sent via the DAA links this morning. Thank Greg for the heads up on these bills.😬
Canada and all US allies always follow whatever the US does. We banned Huawei and and ZTE and so did Canada. DJI will suffer the same fate in Canada if history is any indication.
I have a skydio 2 drone and even I will be affected, just wait and see.
Yep, prices will go up due to lack of competition and quality will go down.
I hope the Alliance helps the Mapping case.
I just sent my message to the government objecting to the DFR drone ban. I hope they get lots of objections!
I’ve been dropping hints to Bell Helicopter to make a consumer grade drone.
You guys should to.
Unfortunately Stefanik is my representative. I'll have to send her another letter.
Has the primary already happened?
Please consider the long term ramifications of targeting specific manufacturing and product development entities. Where does this type of unfair targeting of a successful and technically superior product end? More importantly, what precedent does this set? This misguided and blatant attempt to exclude a very successful and superior device flies in the face of the very platform that our capitalist economy rests upon. Competition in the marketplace fosters innovation, growth, and profit. There are negative consequences to allowing “monopolistic” practices, which is really what is behind this attempt. This feels very much like the “McCarthyism” of the 50’s. Fear mongering does not make our nation stronger and safer. The hard work of our people, anchored by a free society, fosters our continued growth, safety, and prosperity.
Next it will be the banning of Airbus planes as too much competition for poor Boeing.
They can easily pass this with earmarks which is the scary thing. Remember they passed legislation that allows for companies to take your house if you stream something that does not have expressed permission from content owners whether you are aware or not.
Question: I sent my Mavic Air 2(2nd one I’ve owned) in for repair. RTH stopped working. They sent back a different drone. I had ‘connection’ issues so I callled tech support. They resolved the problem on the phone. While the tech was on the phone, I asked if they had plans to make firmware update with RID for Mavic Air2. She said mine is equipped with it. Is that possible? How do I check?
What is NC's issue with drones? Seems very specific.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻, well said.
I was looking at the Mavic 3 pro, but I have been concerned about this Congressional bill. Do you think I should press forward? Or hold?
Is there logistical support I could consider with my boss for my work with him? His company is installing solar panels. Would there be a way I could look behind the shingles under a home to see the support beams?
I think I'm going to go ahead and buy one before the tariffs start
Depends on which bill you're talking about. The tariff one yes buy now. The DJI one no it would become illegal to fly your shiny new drone
This is insane hit that link for your representative
Guaranteed very little to none of the funds will go to first responders, farmers and critical infrastructure pilots.
Submitted my forms today! Thanks 😊 Greg!
Let's get going
Why is the DAA site not working?
😮
It works fine here.
droneadvocacyalliance.com/
Got to love it 😒they know banning the drone will make them look bad so let’s make a bill that increases the amount you pay for a drone so the masses can’t buy it and they will blame DJI for it 🙄 thank you for keeping the community informed 😊
How far do those radio signals go?
Miles
@@OranJuno oh, nice - so who is capturing all that data?
I think we are fighting the "old practices" of drone use which undoubtedly tainted the commercial use of flying drones. The rules regarding use and safety, put out by the FAA and supported by most users (recreational/commercial) are really quite clear. If you got your license in the last 2-3 years and fly as a responsible pilot should, no one can dispute your methods. Most guidelines are made to make it apparent, you are the Part 107.. and not Joe "fly anytime.. anywhere". Its going to take some time to clean up this "tainted" history and have the respect of everyone viewing the industry.. be it legislators or your local Susan. As for "Chinese drones" or their manufacture of drone parts.. build a better American made drone.. and "WE THE PEOPLE".. will buy!
I think someone other than the DAA needs to take charge of the advocacy against Stefanik &Co. When you clearly state that the DAA is sponsored by DJI and it website maintain by DJI, the DOJ may find cause to support Stefanik’s claim. In the least, it feeds the CCP vs. Stefanik perception. IMHO, Pilot Institute has the largest following and should take up the mantle. At a minimum, encourage people to go face to face in the local Congressional Representative’s office and have a chat with the staffers or the Congressman in town. Be professional.
Vic should arrange a rally in Washington.
DAA is just a website to help people reach out to their representatives.
This means we should buy many drones now.
Sounds like my Mini 2 and Mini 3 Pro might be worth a lot soon
These are great little birds indeed I've flown 3 of them in the last 5 years
Let's hope not.
If they ban DJI from communications channels then it would be illegal to fly your Mini 2 and Mini 3 Pro. This is what the ban DJI bills seeks to do. Your drones wouldn't be worth so much after that
Is there any companies looking to get into the industry
If either bill passes, yes most certainly some would try to capitalize on the opportunity. It will still be worse drones for more money and delayed tech
😂 here’s me laughing like the Leo Decaprio meme knowing at NO POINT have I tried to comply my way out of tyranny! 😅
Where is the Mavic 4???
if he had a land surveyor standing there with him .... would the story be different?
3:05 "Left to buy drones that have been over-inflated without any grants to buy them"
That's the best case scenario. On the other hand it's likely that there will be no suitable drones available to buy, period.
Let them know my opposition to the DFR Act.
Excellent video. Will go to express my concerns about Done restrictions to the appropriate elected officials. I really like Ruko's F11 series and the customer service personnel. They have come up with a charging port for charging multiple drone items at the same time. Like Remote ID module, controller, and drones battery at the same time and quickly. It's reasonably priced and for a recreational flyer like myself, well it's better than lugging around a generator to In-&-Out burgers. Check it out. When I want to eat, I eat. When I want to fly, I fly. Better than being bored and waiting for my RID to charge. Have an exciting day! 😊
So in summary, Elise Stefanik is an adversary of the drone hobby/industry. I knew there were multiple reasons I didn’t like her.
Elise Stefanik can go to hell.
Stefanik and Suspects such as Amazon, UPS, FedEx, etc. However, those companies may need Drone Pilots!
Each time I hear you about Dji ban I am sad.
Hopefully I´m not in US.
I doubt it will happen, 5 years from now tells me it's a law that never happens. If they wanted to do something it be done in a year or less.
That drone ban is a WWIII problem. I'm on the other side already as my local-gov has a $0 value to the public.
The Government did the same with OSSFs in the Floodplain but when you drive around you'll realize that my State just let the Cesspits fester.
I can't watch these videos before bedtime. It gets me upset, the talk of these bans. And I can't say what I want to say on this stupid platform but I'm about ready to throw some stuff.
how will people enforce banning dji drones? Will they brick the drones so they can't lift off...very unlikely
Would be easier to enforce than flying without RID.
If they really wanted to, they could just go around with a radio receiver picking up signal at DJI's communication frequency. That video transmitter blasts that frequency for miles. You could foxcatch DJI pilots very easily if they wanted to
Here's a thought... DJI wants help from Pilots, so let's help each other. Release the SDK for the Air 2s! We can already use Dronelink for autonomous fights, but I'd rather Drone Deploy, there are less hiccups. Having said that, there is no way that I am buying the Mavic 3E unless A. I win a significant amount in the Lottery or B. DJI has a big price drop! We all know that the latter is less likely! DJI is too damn greedy, they're already at the top of the market by far... REWARD YOUR CONSUMERS!
Vote her out of office. She's a problem.
I’ve been thinking about getting into this market and manufacture a US drone. I’ve manufactured many products before, but to develop a drone as good as DJI it will be well over $1M.
I would totally but American made DJI clones! Take my money!
Its not just the manufacturing but the ongoing support as well. The software development alone would be millions of dollars. The ROI just isn't there unless you have a worldwide market.
Hey here’s an idea ban a drone company that has no ill will towards this country that comes from a country that is on questionable terms with this country. Their majority market is here in the US where clearly they have earned the right to be called the leaders in the drone industry worldwide. Now picture this somebody comes along and takes away your market share by force. What options do they have left. Currently consumer drones which we’ve all seen have been used with devastating effects in the Ukraine and Russia with little modifications, can you imagine what DJI could do for the military sector. That sector being China and any other country other than the US that wants to purchase a drone of this caliber. If DJI wants to survive as a company they may have to sell their products to other markets and as for military or whatever the purpose they may not have any form of tracking or registration, I mean seriously you think the government registers their spy drones. Just like black market guns black market drones could eventually become a reality opening up a whole new world of devastation to any country. Ours being the most likely target as these stupid politicians with their heads up their asses can’t leave well enough alone. There’s going to be a lot of angry people out there if they pass this ban and who knows what they may do in response to this ban. I’m picturing kamikaze drones at politicians homes and government facilities. That’s our own people and that’s not to say what terrorists or anyone else wishing to make a statement could do. They claim to have made advances in drone detection and defense but the truth is a drone can fly under the radar and without FAA regulations these drones would be invisible until it was too late. Good job to all those who oppose DJI drones and any other Chinese drone company for giving supporters of the country a reason to dislike you. Change starts with people but when you indiscriminately single out a group because of where they’re from then I don’t know what to say about that. We all know about that in this country. We even went to war with a man like that, what was his name Adolph something or other. Post a list of these politicians and let the chips fall where they may.
Remember the lost one's who have given all for this great country!
I'm just going to keep complaining about using the "premiere" feature. I click on new Pilot Institute videos as soon as they come up, and I always get these darn premieres. >.>
Technology is hard
This is something you are just going to have to accept. It’s part of TH-cam and that’s really the end of it. Your complaining doesn’t do anything but get you worked up over something you can’t control. You got this
Companies like Skydio need to be required to manufacture consumer drones or be banned from selling to government agencies.
Nah I'm probably boycotting skydio for pulling this anti-competitive slithery strategy