@@thebat9301 Her sacrifice to eradicate the forbidden knowledge led to become Kusanali. Same as Guoba's sacrifice of his wits, size, and memory for the people and land of Liyue because of the calamity And as for his/her conclusion, because he/she has a theory that Nahida and Rukka are the same person. And also, because of the statue
Paimon. Paimon must be like Guoba and Rukkhadevata. She used to be a powerful god or something, then she became a child and lost all her powers. It makes sense
@@nencrows_4580 truth be told, we don't know the actual age of Qiqi. she could be a couple hundred years old to a couple thousand years old but not dating before the archon war
Sometimes too much knowledge and wisdom vanquishes people's morality away. So my theory is that: They doesn't care who the F the archon is, they just wanted to get ahold into the power of wisdom . They used and gaslighted NAHIDA into thinking that she's useless because she's just a mere tool for them i guess. But i am hoping for a character development for this sages
That being said . Even if they ever found out that NAHIDA = Rukhadevatta. Theres a possibility that they still wouldn't care as long as they are in control of the gnosis and the wisdom thingy . I think this is also the reason why they gaslighted the people of SUMERU and made them think NAHIDA is not supposed to be praised? Do correct me if im wrong
This is the scariest thing yet. It may be possible that the forbidden knowledge could be related to Celestia and the land of the King Deshret be cursed by them, knowing that the knowledge inside "Before Sun and Moon" caused Orobashi and the Enkanomiya people to be sentenced to execution(Orobashi taking the sentence of its people and thus dying under Ei's sword).
@Harry Shade Considering the symptoms of the disease include growth of scales on the skin, this would rather be linked to the Vishap People or the Seven Sovereigns.
Well yeah, all these flashbacks are clearly framed wrong. It's not the "forbidden knowledge" that is evil, but rather Celestia for enforcing its will on Teyvat. If that's not the path the story is headed then it might lose me. No knowledge should be forbidden. We've experience so much pain here in the real world because of the wanton destruction of knowledge. All knowledge is precious.
@@AuthorityCat I mean yeah in the game you always have to consider who the information is coming from and some sources are more trusted than others. Currently almost all of the history from before khaenriah was destroyed is sussy
@@ciucasmyers4014 nope, eleazar is confirmed to be a manifestation of the withering which was also confirmed to have the same origin as the power of the abyss order, aka the abyss, the forbidden knowledge is definitely of abyssal nature and it seems like some lovecraftian horror shit.
Nahida/Kusanali is Ruklhadevata?! Holy shit so she's not dead but reversed aged instead?! The sages were quick to assume that their Archon was killed and gave birth to Kusanali.
More like they considered rukkhadevata dead, because she's no longer knowledgeable like before, and when they first evaluavate her, she thinks like a child.
Think it just like the lost she must to confront just for her ppl. Like Guoba can't speak anymore n with time is hard to restore her power which she ever has. Even knowledges n memories...
So it looks like all beings can somehow erode themselves for a greater cause. Erosion in this game has been mentioned before by Zhongli, but right now I feel like what we're seeing is willingness to erode. We can see Guoba willingly "erode" from his godliness to guobaness. The Aranara also "erode" their memories in exchange to use their nature powers. Now we see Rukkha erode herself for the greater good to become Kusanali. This is interesting
I think the answer is more direct than that. Remember Lisa? She obtained power at the cost of her life force being split in half, giving her little time left on the earth. This shows a direct correlation to the fact that Celestia has a factor of progression being a threat, and as you approach a certain amount of progression or power you must wither away. When Khaenriah progressed too far, Celestoa descended wrath and tried to wipe its knowledge and people clear from the world. Then we look at the three elements closest related to Celestia. Hydro, Electro, and Cryo. We know Raiden was regarded as having the closest vision to Celestia. Which was stagnation for eternity. We know that Fontaine (where Celestia currently sits over and admires) is all about justice and true punishment regardless of reason. The act is all that matters. Which if we apply to Khaenriah, no matter why they wanted to progress it upset Celestia and was punished. And we look at the Tsaritsa said to be a kind an capable social recluse who was hurt by the ways of the war. Benevolent until crossed or questioned. All three show this idea that change is not acceptable in the world. Ei even stopped her erosion to avoid "change". So it makes sense that in a land where wisdom and progress is so accessible, there'd once again be a system in place to stop it from progressing TOO far. The trade off is: You progress past your means, you remain for a shorter time in the world. It almost sounds like a simulation of some sort. Like something can't handle peolle progressing past a certain point, for some reason.
@@unbothered5240 There is absolutely no proof of Lisa's backstory being canon in the game. That was a pre-release interview and has nothing to prove it in the actual game, please stop spreading that bullshit.
So basically, nahida is the greater lord but smoler (and tired), cyno's relative died guarding a temple, and the abyss knowledge makes people get eleazar and caused the withering. Man, the amount of lore condensed in a single video
@@SlothofBangkok Cyno : Crush the Sages and save our God Me omw to The Akademiya with a Meteor Man Electro Infused Breast sheathed Sword user Black hole Abuser " We do a Little trolling "
It is also a possibility that the sages already know this and hid this fact to Nahida and Sumeru. This way they can control Nahida and the spread of knowledge for their own interests.
The part where Rukkhadevata fades into Nahida really hit home for me for some reason. Not only is the art moving and gorgeous, but it broke my heart to realize that they are the same person, and for all her life Nahida has been abused and outcast for no longer being the god she once was. Her reward for being a hero for her people (and possibly all of Teyvat) was to be shunned and treated as a burden by the very people she saved, kept in a cage where she can't even go out on her birthday, and that broke me. I don't even care if Cyno is the new meta, because I may skip him for Nahida.
Cyno is not meta, infact Nahida goes really well with cyno, which is exactly why I'm pulling both of them. Also I have a slight feeling that Cyno is very sympathetic towards Nahida's story rn, he seemed angry by the end of the quest, he might actually kill the sages.
@@vduck7354 basically the behaviour of slimes reflect the archon Anemo slimes float & when killed gives wind currents Geo slimes has shield and throw rocks at you Electro slimes come in pairs like ei & makoto & dendro slimes big one summons small ones
Well this pretty much confirms to me that paimon is really a god who lost their power,turning back to a child and forgetting their memories, as we see in the act II of sumeru even nahida doesn't seem to remember she was previously Rukkhadevata
1:49-1:57 is just… phenomenal, the animation is so smooth and beautiful. This is the first time something like this has shown up in a cutscene as far as i can remember and I really hope they do it more in the future.
This is what leakers meant when they said it would be Nahida's story that will capture the hearts of many players, putting her bashers into shame and guilt for their misdirected hate towards her.
"why is she pale... the original dendro archon on the fan art is brown/dark skin" and now FUCK the fan art its confirmed she is the original Dendro Archon which is pale as the Moon
@@Lordmaster316 you can say that again. This is the best to shove up to those ill!terate anti-pale-colored pixels that they'll never make the Dendro Archon the way they insist her to be like.
@@Lordmaster316 Besides Sumeru is different than the coutries it was represented from. It's obvious that people who originated from forest are genetically pale, while dessert people are genetically tan (which can vary). Tan people in forest area have relation to dessert and pale people in dessert are either foreigners or from forest area. Mixed people have issues adapt to both worlds (from story quest) and in general there is a xenophobia issue going on in Sumeru because of Academya. Kusanali is the archon of forest people and king Deshter is an archon of dessert (even though he died). In soty quest we learn that Kusanali is not an archon for dessert people and is not supposed to be their, but she still protected them even though they didn't see her as their archon. Basicaly Kusanali is not an archon of dessert people, therefore she represents forest area. Boom, that's why she's pale. If or when will se king Deshter and he'll turn out to be tan that will just confirm my theory. So everyone who whine about skin collor can suck a dick.
Rukkhadevata is actually Kusanali. It actually make sense and thats such a good twist for the story. She used so much power that she was basically rebirthed. which ties into shivaism and buddhism. Ironic isn't it, they don't like Kusanali cause she's not Rukkhadevata. That's gotta hurt for Rukkhadevata. Imagine how much she has done and how much love she showed her people, then she got rebirthed into a state where she's basically helpless, but theres nothing to worry about, you cultivated your people, they'll help you, regardless of identity, cause we are the city of wisdom. But no, the sages now hated you, abused their power, manipulate your people for more power, and basically threw you in the side of the road, just cause your not her. All that things you done for them, you dedicate your life to your people regardless of who they are and what they've done, and they can't even do the same for you or others.
Yo, this makes the situation in Sumeru even scarier and more depressing. Imagine being turned away by the people you protect, even replaced. Now the "World forget me..." makes sense. Also, the prejudice between the two faction pisses me off A LOT.
@@ragnot95 Kusanali said the Greater Lord's knowledge in the Irmunsol great tree has a dark aura around it so she can't access it. Mortals go insane when they try. So I guess her memories are corrupted like with a plague or something. She does say she thinks the Traveler is immune to the bad aura so... I guess we get to translate for everyone at some point.
I'm more pissed at the sages, they have been engineering this conflict for 500 years (since they locked up nahida). And kept the Desert folk in the dark about what really happened (they should know about their God's sacrifice, and how rukhadevata helped them). And now they are putting all the common folk and scholars in danger to create a new God. A God that hates other gods and humans and probably doesn't know what dottore or the sages are trying to achieve ... No matter which way you slice it, nahida, scaramouche and Sumeru as a whole are all being used for an impossible task, since the very thing that caused it is still being used (divine knowledge is probably also the knowledge that caused the withering and elezear).
So Venti, Zhongli, Ei and Nahida are all the archons who have reign since the Archon war. Does that mean the Archons had never changed just that being replaced or lose their powers. It does give us the question if the other Archons are the same as well, og Archons but with a twist.
@@lapisincognito yes she is lol, she says that there were always two archons in inazuma, but the people didnt know, her sister was the one that take the gnosis yes, but that doesnt means anything, they were siblings so, two archons at the end of the day
I kind of wonder if Cyno is the reincarnation of that priest or something which is why he was staring at the tomb for a bit when everyone was about to leave.
Considering his affiliation is listed as “Temple of Silence” instead of Sumeru Akademia” like the others, I would be surprised if he wasn’t a direct descendant of the original Temple guardians
When I first heard "world forget me" I thought to myself that It kind of sounded like kusanali so after that I kinda had a mini theory of how kusanali/nahida was the previous dendro archon but she just forgot? I'm guessing the phrase world forget me though still missing some words maybe it's a spell that she made so that people that went insane after they learnt the forbidden knowledge thing went back to normal but I don't know we'll just have to find out.
I still feel like that whole phrase is just a fragment of a larger one. Like when you get static over the radio and the message is garbled. it's presented as "world...forget me..." what if she's actually saying " world, don't forget me" or something along that line?
So even tho the eremites hate her she sacrificed her strength for all people of sumeru including them. Hopefully they do find out what she did for them at some point and that king deshret was actually sort of the disaster bringer
Then what happened 500 years ago you know the Cataclysm? I thought everyone was fighting against Khaenri'ah. So it means that Rukkhadevata was not present that time or somehow it lines up with King Deshret's mistakes and it is sort of their own war?
@@ViperDivinity possibly the cataclysm is a second time rukka drained her power The cutscene here showed her reverting from tall adult to medium teenager, but the current nahida we see is a short child. So it's possible rukka drained her power again during the cataclysm
Having done the story quest, aside from the mindblowing plot twist, one of the small details that is very dearing to me is the fact that Cyno quickly understood the situation that the Dendro Archon was with them all along, and his conviction was also very notable as well. I thought it's gonna be hard to one-up the aranara world story quest and here the genshin writers prove me wrong once again 😭👍
A direct foreshadowing would be the Aranaras. They were created directly by the Dendro Archon, have dream manipulation powers and to use and exert more power, they have to "sacrifice" their memories and at times, their whole selves (Arana).
The moment they revealed that Kusanali's birthday was effectively the same day that Rukkhadevata supposedly died, I always felt this was too much of a coincidence. Glad to see it confirmed that they're actually one and the same.
you know what is fun? its that everywhere we go in the game, elemental energy is hinted as being the power of memories since the start, for example, Zhong li that is already suffering from corrosion, and he somewhat suggested that its like a fatigue so big, like a mental overload, that end up causing them forget of their role as a archon, like acting like they dont care anymore. We see the same thing when we go to inazuma, that is the whole point of the problems there, Ei's fear of being corroded, of losing her memories, probably of her sister, after in her quest she even state that the ley line roots we see everywhere absorbs memories that later expels the power as elemental energy. So its totally plausible that a archon that exhausted their power could end up in a weak state without their memories, and its most likely what happened with the dendro archon, she fought at the war and got soo weak that she turned small and without her memories and it's now the "new" dendro archo, kusanali is rukkadevata, she just dont remember, we even play a whole imense quest with the aranaras that rubs all over our face the fact that their memories are the fuel for ther magic, its pretty much obvious at this point
So Scarlet king was the cause of Eleazar and the medical notes describe how severe it was before the king sacrificed himself as an emergency damage control. Even though the root cause already sacrificed himself, there are still people getting the disease and the forest still gets the withering. And I think the Marana avatar is a remnant of the forbidden knowledge.
This is some next level cthulhu hidden knowledge. Once they discover void archive in Genshin, we can finally prove that Genshin is indeed a pocket universe.
This really shows knowledge is a scary thing in teyvat. Remember orabashi, the giant snake that kokomi's people worships, was sentenced to death by celestia because he got a GLIMPSE of the true origins of teyvat
Just want to clarify. Rukkhadevata is NOT Nahida. This cutscene happened thousands of years ago, likely just after the archon war. Yes Rukhadevata became a small child after using all her power, but she still had her memories and was still Rukkhadevata. This was probably when the archon statues of her were built as she would officially be the Dendro archon at this point. It was only 500 years ago when Nahida was created by her. Nahida has a different body, new memories, personality, etc. (I’m not good at describing the process but originally Rukhadevata and Nahida were different. But after Rukkhadevata terminated herself from the Irminsul that is when all of teyvat saw Nahida AS Rukkhadevata as you all are saying now. But Rukhadevata is NOT Nahida.)
@@silverhawkscape2677 if i remember correctly, Ei wasnt the archon back then but her sister, makoto. she became the archon after the war which killed her sister. so technically, the original archons are just venti, zhongli and kusanali. do correct me if im wrong
I won’t place the scarlet king as the bad guy yet, what if the forbidden knowledge he gave to his people was actually the true origin of the gods of celestia! Remember orobashi? At first we thought he was a villain, but turns out he was only trying to protect his people because he accidentally discovered the true origin of the celestial gods.
@@massimilianoreali4398 khaenri'ah now is the abyss, the moment that the Scarlet king searched for that it's previous. So abyss =/= khaenri'ah in the time line.
@@massimilianoreali4398 I differ. I think that the abyss that was around 500+ years ago was another thing, and when khaenri'ah was destroyed by celestia and cursed, they joined the abyss and they are now what we know the abyss force is.
So basically, all the 4 Archons we've met up until now are original Archons who built up their nations, including Ei since she was there along with Makoto. From the start, we thought there are only 2 original Archons who are still alive, Barbartos and Morax respectively. But it turns out to be 4.
Yep, that's why you don't judge the cover of the book if you haven't even read it inside. Almost half of the players hates nahida just because she's white and thinks she's not the original but hey, atleast I know
now i think the hydro archon is actually not one of the ogs, at least based from rhodeia's(oceanid) attitude towards her. but hey, she could just be mistaken just like the sages lol so idk anymore.
I just watched this cutscene today, and damn I was right. I knew Kusasanali is Rukkhadevata. For sure for all the players who think the same felt what I felt during the cutscene.
As most people already talked about how Rukkadevata is actually Kusanali, it begs a question of is the divine canned knowledge is the forbidden knowledge that Scarlet King bought before in this cutscene? If so, it's kinda ironic.
Divine knowledge capsules has only info from Irminsul and it's part of that world. I think we ll understand what this "forbidden knowledge" is when we figure out what is damaging Irminsul because withering zones and eleazar are consequence of this, which is also what's shown in the cutscene.
@@nive7711 i mean....how true is that in the end? Can be just more sage propaganda to get more mad scholars. After all, it's not Irminsul that Haypasia connected to
@@floricel_112 I believed she hit the Irminsul, but the entire tree suffer significant damage/withering. And the fact it might be hooked to the Bath-hat wasn't helping. Trust me, that thing they are piling on him isn't Divine Knowledge. Only Nahida can read the capsule and tell us what it was, but the logic didn't make sense. Think about it. Divine Knowlege=Knowledge of the God, Divine Knowledge=Insanity, thus the Dendro Archon is insane... no shit sherlock. Nahida and Rukka isn't insane. There is no way in seven hell it is thier power source (likely Nahida use the same method as Aranara). I am betting my ass this is an insane Khanriah shit taking a form of Nahida's self-doubt.
@@floricel_112 I think the part about connecting to Irminsul is actually true as the traveller did it with a little stimulus from spirit borneal and Haypasia also was able to do it a few times but she went mad during Satyavada stage. This probably indicates the extent to which a normal human can get.The paripurna stage must be something the sages made up like you said. Also this forbidden knowledge can now be present in Irminsul since it has already been brought to this world.
So the irony here if we compare it to Aranara quest is that the akademiya effectively "killed" Rukkhadevata by not teaching Kusanali anything she supposed to know. Instead of guiding her to become another Rukkhadevata, they imprisoned her but still rely on her gnosis cause they too hungry for knowledge. Now they trying to create a god to pursue their "wisdom" In the end what they want isn't Rukkhadevata but her knowledge. Basically what The Jester said in winter night lazzo is true. "The sages thinks themselves to be all-knowing" but they just bunch of hypocrite. In the end the sages are repeating the mistakes that the Scarlet king had made.
Shame on alot of the people who thought she's a useless archon at the beginning (just like those who with initial impression on Lisa, Traveller, Amber, Keqing, etc). Even if you dook dook now, your sins cannot be flushed away.
My guess is she's more like a "part" of a god. Wouldn't make sense for it to be the exact same situation as kusanali, I doubt hoyoverse would use the same story twice.
So that's why in Sumeru there was a line during the storylines talking about like the "cycle of life". From the promotional teasers on Sumeru. Nahida said: "Everything in this world runs in a loop. As for the truth, that's on you to find out. So no matter how strange or spooky things might look on the surface, maybe all they point to in the end is a small and simple secret".
To be fair it’s also possible they knew the whole time but wanted to keep it secret so they could become the sole rulers of sumeru and sideline the dendro archon in her own region
OMFG I DIDNT PLAY GENSHIN SINCE AUGUST BUT I STILL HAVE THE GAME IT’S JUST THE NURSING STUDENT LIFE IS HARD TO U KNOW..MANAGE IT AKFSIXJSKAJSJXS BUT OMFG ITS CONFIRMED?! NAHIDA JUST SHRUNK 😭 PLEASE LET HER GROW AGAIN SHE’S SO GORGEOUS EVEN AS A CHILD
I have two theories: 1. Nahida did lose all the wisdom and sages deemed her as useless, so she had to gain knowledge through Akashi and become the archon we know today. This girl had 500 years to learn, so... 2. Nahida does remember everything, but decided to fool sages into thinking she's not useful for them since she's smart enough to understand that sages should not be trusted or they'll abuse the knowledge. Anyway Sumeru's lore is a huge step up for Genshin in general. They served interesting messages and made me use all of my braincells to come to these conclusions. And sho far Nahida is such a great archon and a character I love her.
Helping Scarlet King Shrunk into Teen. Helping Cataclysm 500 Years Ago Shrunk into Small Child. Helping Traveler Againts Harbinger = Nahida Guoba Size.
This makes me love Kusanali more. She just lost her powers. I hate those sages. I can't wait for 3.2 to drop so we can rescue her and defeat those noobs.
Sages see Nahida as a living elemental being for experimentation and exploitation i.e. Sages and "Balladeer" are abusing her while in her weakened form.
0:22 love how the ost got sang cheerfully probably by the orchestra kids that did the tales of the snow mountain and song of innocence while the people literally shown being mad and got cursed lmao i also find it interesting how when we expect the og archon are only venti and zhongli now, actually still have 4 of them. makoto and ei ruled inazuma together as one as makoto become the "face"/"light" while ei as "right-hand"/"shadow". and nahida, was actually rukkhadevata who lost her power and memories thus make her reversing back to be a child. so in a sense, the og archons that died don't got "replaced" completely, but by someone who still have essense/connection of them while i find it interesting, i kinda wish there's og archon who got replaced completely. like how venti replacing decarabian. there's still 3 countries left, so who knows
so this is what happened a timeline. - the scarlet king discovered forbidden knowledge (the abyss). this resulted in the suffering of his people. - ruhkkadevata arrived to save the desert.. with the help of the scarlet king they built monuments to seal the abyss. this however resulted in the sacrifice of the scarlet king. - many years later (less than a 100 years presumably which is 1 lifetime) khaenriah managed to get a hold of this forbidden knowledge. - khaenriah used the forbidden knowledge they found in the scarlet king empire ruins and this resulted in the cataclysm. - during the cataclysm and the fight at khaenriah the sage saw the vision of rukkhadevata fighting... using all her power to seal the abyss once again. but she is alone and did not have the help of the scarlet king it consumed almost all her power transforming her into nahida. this cutscene pretty much explains 4 things 1. the origin of the abyss.. it was the scarlet king who discovered it. 2. how khaenriah managed to get a hold of abyssal knowledge... they found it sealed in the desert. 3. what was rukkhadevata's role during the cataclysm.... she literally played janitor to clean up all the filth in teyvat. 4. rukkhadevata is nahida and the dendro archon did not die... the only known confirmed casualty among the gods now during the cataclysm is Makoto.
This only shows that Gods do really help one another. Kinda reminds me of Monstadt and Liyue's close relationship since the two nations are close to each other and so are their Gods.
I was right, I guessed that the Scarlet King was probably part of a circle of benevolent gods similar to Orobachi but external circumstances caused his fall from grace, though I will admit I was wrong about him competing with Murata for the status of pyro archon
So, Rukkhadevata and Kusanali share the same consciousness but different memories. Rukkhadevata used a significant amount of her power to help the people of the desert, which caused her to shrink in size and lose her memories. She essentially used her memories to generate power, just like the Aranara, and used said power to help her people. As a result, she “died” because she lost all of her memories related to being Rukkhadevata. The day she “died” was the day Kusanali was “born” as it was the rebirth of the same consciousness, ready to make brand new memories related to being Kusanali. I think Rukkhadevata and Kusanali’s situation is somewhat similar to a person having a bad accident, falling into a brief coma, and waking up having lost all of their past memories. It’s still technically the same person, the same consciousness, but the memories of their past and current self are separate.
What if the current 7 archons we have right now are actually, TECHNICALLY, still the Original Seven... Like there's only plot twist and turns that deviate the players and maybe even the people of Teyvat (in specific nations) into thinking that the archons today aren't the original ones. Might be farfetched but yeah... just a running theory.
It really does kinda go together considering how Guoba had done the same thing PLUS it was really suspicious how an archon could just disappear out of the blue.
Our archons are becoming more and more “not the originals since the war” but we haven’t fully gotten there yet. Venti and Zhongli ofc though credit goes to Guizhong for getting Zhongli started, then Ei has always been there and was face and did half the job since the start. Maybe by the time we see Tsaritsa’s story, she’s the first archon who ascended from a genuine, humble human?
No seriously same. Guess that's why my first ever fictional character 'crush' is kakashi. Then we have arlecchino and now I'm basically a shrimp for original nahida
It's true that Kusanali is Rukkhadevata... But if I wanted to say something to her it would be "Who you were in the past doesn't matter, now you're someone different, but you still love the people of Sumeru even thought they didn't respect you. As the archon of this nation you didn't fail, neither in the past, neither in the present. Be proud of who you are". She will never be Rukkhadevata again, she's now Kusanali, and no matter what the Sages says, she's loved by far more people that what they think. Sumeru is called the nation of wisdom, but I would prefer to call the the nation of ignorance: the fact that after everything that their archon did for them, they still choose to pursue wisdom and lock up their new deity makes you realize how greedy humans are, to the point to not respect those that sacrificed themselves for them and speculate about the use of the Akasha system and give up their own culture for this objective. It's actually so sad that for 500 years Kusanali never received the respect she deserved only because her "birth" meant that Rukkhadevata was "gone".
the first time the rukka use her power, she becomes small child and retain her memories. this is the time the sages tried to control her power. the second time she becomes child and lose her memories and thus the sages are disappointed not able to control the reborn god power.
I was crying when Greater Lord said the world will have to forget her, sumeru has the best lore both in history and the one happening(the one we play through)
"As long as forbidden knowledge continued to exist, it would forver blight this world". Maybe Rukkhadevata actually wants to have an amnesia so that she could also forget the "forbidden knowledge".
I cannot wait to see the sages face when they realize that Nahida is Rukkhadevata but shorter
Same here, they're gonna be so dumbfounded and guilty for it haha 😂
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And dumbfold when she start asking people to pass dook dook
I bet the grand sage will gonna said"that's impossible"😂😂😂😂
*smaller
I always knew that Kussanali is actually Rukkhadevata, same as Gouba who sacrifice his powers, lost his memories and became small.
@@thebat9301 Her sacrifice to eradicate the forbidden knowledge led to become Kusanali. Same as Guoba's sacrifice of his wits, size, and memory for the people and land of Liyue because of the calamity
And as for his/her conclusion, because he/she has a theory that Nahida and Rukka are the same person. And also, because of the statue
same
@@rossalbertdelacruz6751 That even begs me a question, how come Celestia carved the newborn Kusanali in the seven statue? Maybe because they know?
@@Samchanne21 Yeah, that is weird. Also, i didn't continue the game yet I watch some gameplays so I just treat Gameplays a episode binging
Paimon. Paimon must be like Guoba and Rukkhadevata. She used to be a powerful god or something, then she became a child and lost all her powers. It makes sense
So all academia sages thought Greater Lord death＝the birth of nahida.Turns out is Greater Lord ＝nahida herself
F*ck the scolars honesly
If you relate those two with plants, you'll know right away, the seed of the plant
i knew it..
And Sages think they are the knowledgable one. They don't even have the knowledge to figure this out
@@LunarEclipsa1026 Pierro was right though 😂😂
The Sages think themselves as all knowing
So the Aranaras’ loss of memories after using too much power was a hint for this reveal all along.
well, Aranara were created by her after all, so it make sense
And Guoba
Really, it is kinda obvious. Many people already guess it.
not just aranara but the statue of seven was itself the hint all along because if u clearly see the small girl in big cloth just explain everything
@@sanchitsharma3546 That’s a little hindsight speaking, since I doubt a little oversized cloth can be considered a hint to something this big.
This means that Kusanali is actually much older. She's not 500 years old, only her memories are.
Crazy to think she is still not the oldest "child" in the game. Qiqi still takes the cake. A thousand year old child.
@@nencrows_4580 truth be told, we don't know the actual age of Qiqi.
she could be a couple hundred years old to a couple thousand years old but not dating before the archon war
@@kamizakip3820 Yeh
@@kamizakip3820 isn't that Qiqi died in the archon war? And the adepti rescued her and bringing her back to life.
@@achmadputra2 yeah, and she lived as a zombie and have seen many things, just to forgor
This “turns to a kid and loses memories” thing basically confirms who Paimon is
Good theory.
It always been
Oh my god. DISGOSTENG
omg????
oh no...
Sometimes too much knowledge and wisdom vanquishes people's morality away. So my theory is that: They doesn't care who the F the archon is, they just wanted to get ahold into the power of wisdom . They used and gaslighted NAHIDA into thinking that she's useless because she's just a mere tool for them i guess.
But i am hoping for a character development for this sages
That being said . Even if they ever found out that NAHIDA = Rukhadevatta. Theres a possibility that they still wouldn't care as long as they are in control of the gnosis and the wisdom thingy . I think this is also the reason why they gaslighted the people of SUMERU and made them think NAHIDA is not supposed to be praised? Do correct me if im wrong
no, no character development for them they must be killed. they are the worse.
Is the character development for the sages being buried 6 feet underground in an unmarked grave in the desert? Cause that’s what I’m wanting. 😂
Can we atleast punch those boomers lol
Oh my- i guess the hate for the sages is
Quite well deserved~
This is the scariest thing yet. It may be possible that the forbidden knowledge could be related to Celestia and the land of the King Deshret be cursed by them, knowing that the knowledge inside "Before Sun and Moon" caused Orobashi and the Enkanomiya people to be sentenced to execution(Orobashi taking the sentence of its people and thus dying under Ei's sword).
@Harry Shade Considering the symptoms of the disease include growth of scales on the skin, this would rather be linked to the Vishap People or the Seven Sovereigns.
SO No BAIZHU?
Well yeah, all these flashbacks are clearly framed wrong. It's not the "forbidden knowledge" that is evil, but rather Celestia for enforcing its will on Teyvat. If that's not the path the story is headed then it might lose me. No knowledge should be forbidden. We've experience so much pain here in the real world because of the wanton destruction of knowledge. All knowledge is precious.
@@AuthorityCat I mean yeah in the game you always have to consider who the information is coming from and some sources are more trusted than others. Currently almost all of the history from before khaenriah was destroyed is sussy
@@ciucasmyers4014 nope, eleazar is confirmed to be a manifestation of the withering which was also confirmed to have the same origin as the power of the abyss order, aka the abyss, the forbidden knowledge is definitely of abyssal nature and it seems like some lovecraftian horror shit.
Nahida/Kusanali is Ruklhadevata?! Holy shit so she's not dead but reversed aged instead?! The sages were quick to assume that their Archon was killed and gave birth to Kusanali.
But too bad she's now weakened after herself and turned to a child
Welp, my theory about Nahida being a creation of Rukkhadevata is wrong then
So Nahida/Rukkhadevata pulled a phoenix's rebirth huh? Not bad
More like they considered rukkhadevata dead, because she's no longer knowledgeable like before, and when they first evaluavate her, she thinks like a child.
@@killernstnct Does Nahida only act childish or she really don't remember her past self due to rebirth
Think it just like the lost she must to confront just for her ppl. Like Guoba can't speak anymore n with time is hard to restore her power which she ever has. Even knowledges n memories...
This brings a new meaning to “but where’re those who share memory” line.
SHUTTUPP😭😭😭😭😭
Osmanthus wine...
Plot twist: Zhongli is is outsider just like Travelers.
@@tami7992 tastes the same as I remember...
@@tommykaung5882technically yes cause his bday is at december 31st and teyvat was obviously started at jan 1
So it looks like all beings can somehow erode themselves for a greater cause. Erosion in this game has been mentioned before by Zhongli, but right now I feel like what we're seeing is willingness to erode. We can see Guoba willingly "erode" from his godliness to guobaness. The Aranara also "erode" their memories in exchange to use their nature powers. Now we see Rukkha erode herself for the greater good to become Kusanali. This is interesting
Will zhongli erode himself into the pebble man.
I think the answer is more direct than that.
Remember Lisa? She obtained power at the cost of her life force being split in half, giving her little time left on the earth.
This shows a direct correlation to the fact that Celestia has a factor of progression being a threat, and as you approach a certain amount of progression or power you must wither away. When Khaenriah progressed too far, Celestoa descended wrath and tried to wipe its knowledge and people clear from the world.
Then we look at the three elements closest related to Celestia. Hydro, Electro, and Cryo.
We know Raiden was regarded as having the closest vision to Celestia. Which was stagnation for eternity. We know that Fontaine (where Celestia currently sits over and admires) is all about justice and true punishment regardless of reason. The act is all that matters.
Which if we apply to Khaenriah, no matter why they wanted to progress it upset Celestia and was punished.
And we look at the Tsaritsa said to be a kind an capable social recluse who was hurt by the ways of the war. Benevolent until crossed or questioned.
All three show this idea that change is not acceptable in the world. Ei even stopped her erosion to avoid "change". So it makes sense that in a land where wisdom and progress is so accessible, there'd once again be a system in place to stop it from progressing TOO far.
The trade off is: You progress past your means, you remain for a shorter time in the world. It almost sounds like a simulation of some sort. Like something can't handle peolle progressing past a certain point, for some reason.
@@unbothered5240 There is absolutely no proof of Lisa's backstory being canon in the game. That was a pre-release interview and has nothing to prove it in the actual game, please stop spreading that bullshit.
not guobaness... 💀
@@unbothered5240 like a fire to a log, if the fire burns to bright the log burns out
That's why she is the first Akasha Terminal. She is the Terminal itself since her conception of it.
THIS.
Legends say that the sages rejected the birth of Nahida because her first words were "dookie".
Tbh I lost half of my lifespan after that part, so it's not hard to believe.
Ahh that one video
"All I said was dookie. I didn't even say **** "
So basically, nahida is the greater lord but smoler (and tired), cyno's relative died guarding a temple, and the abyss knowledge makes people get eleazar and caused the withering. Man, the amount of lore condensed in a single video
The sages when they discovered that they imprisoned their own goddess:
(chuckles) "I'm in danger"
Cyno is approaching them menacingly with a club.
@@SlothofBangkok Cyno : Crush the Sages and save our God
Me omw to The Akademiya with a
Meteor Man
Electro Infused Breast sheathed Sword user
Black hole Abuser
" We do a Little trolling "
Yes, nahida said the sages doings are unforgivable
@@twinkieerella yes the sages did a little bit too much trolling... So I'll go to Troll a Little bit more than they Expect 😩😩
It is also a possibility that the sages already know this and hid this fact to Nahida and Sumeru. This way they can control Nahida and the spread of knowledge for their own interests.
The part where Rukkhadevata fades into Nahida really hit home for me for some reason. Not only is the art moving and gorgeous, but it broke my heart to realize that they are the same person, and for all her life Nahida has been abused and outcast for no longer being the god she once was. Her reward for being a hero for her people (and possibly all of Teyvat) was to be shunned and treated as a burden by the very people she saved, kept in a cage where she can't even go out on her birthday, and that broke me.
I don't even care if Cyno is the new meta, because I may skip him for Nahida.
Cyno is not meta, infact Nahida goes really well with cyno, which is exactly why I'm pulling both of them. Also I have a slight feeling that Cyno is very sympathetic towards Nahida's story rn, he seemed angry by the end of the quest, he might actually kill the sages.
cyno not Meta
but Nahida will be meta if the leaks is true
op boost damage and EM
Nuke DPS if she is c6
She kept in a cage for 500yrs 😢
It almost looks like a magical girl transformation in reverse.
IKRR I FEEL SO BAD FOR NAHIDA SHE’S DONE SO MUCH FOR HER PEOPLE YET THEY TREAT HER SO CRUELLY :(((
Not just the guoba story but the dendro slimes too lol
The big one summons smaller ones
OHHH now it makes sense
Your right. Slime Theory.
Slime theory was always real. People just took it literally and claims it was stupid.
What is the slime theory
@@vduck7354 basically the behaviour of slimes reflect the archon
Anemo slimes float & when killed gives wind currents
Geo slimes has shield and throw rocks at you
Electro slimes come in pairs like ei & makoto
& dendro slimes big one summons small ones
Well this pretty much confirms to me that paimon is really a god who lost their power,turning back to a child and forgetting their memories, as we see in the act II of sumeru even nahida doesn't seem to remember she was previously Rukkhadevata
could be a possibility but there isnt a single backstory to paimon yet
Agree
@@vincesetnuef492 yes " YET " until 10.1 arrives 😩😩😩
@@Ayasakura141 10.1 💀💀
@@yunjin_is_life6143 💀
1:49-1:57 is just… phenomenal, the animation is so smooth and beautiful. This is the first time something like this has shown up in a cutscene as far as i can remember and I really hope they do it more in the future.
Reminded me of little witch academia ED ngl lol.
Literally obsessed with this part in the animation
Nahida really pure kindhearted. Desert dwellers were not her people yet she sacrificed everything for them.
And the Sages are over here trying desperately to start a proxy war.
I'm beginning to really hate the Akademia.
This is what leakers meant when they said it would be Nahida's story that will capture the hearts of many players, putting her bashers into shame and guilt for their misdirected hate towards her.
"why is she pale... the original dendro archon on the fan art is brown/dark skin"
and now FUCK the fan art
its confirmed she is the original Dendro Archon which is pale as the Moon
@@Lordmaster316 you can say that again. This is the best to shove up to those ill!terate anti-pale-colored pixels that they'll never make the Dendro Archon the way they insist her to be like.
@@Lordmaster316 Besides Sumeru is different than the coutries it was represented from. It's obvious that people who originated from forest are genetically pale, while dessert people are genetically tan (which can vary). Tan people in forest area have relation to dessert and pale people in dessert are either foreigners or from forest area. Mixed people have issues adapt to both worlds (from story quest) and in general there is a xenophobia issue going on in Sumeru because of Academya. Kusanali is the archon of forest people and king Deshter is an archon of dessert (even though he died). In soty quest we learn that Kusanali is not an archon for dessert people and is not supposed to be their, but she still protected them even though they didn't see her as their archon. Basicaly Kusanali is not an archon of dessert people, therefore she represents forest area. Boom, that's why she's pale. If or when will se king Deshter and he'll turn out to be tan that will just confirm my theory. So everyone who whine about skin collor can suck a dick.
Twitter: not even once
@@Lordmaster316 That's what they get after fooling themselves to believe a fan art. See the Heizou & Ayato incident for example.
Rukkhadevata is actually Kusanali. It actually make sense and thats such a good twist for the story. She used so much power that she was basically rebirthed. which ties into shivaism and buddhism. Ironic isn't it, they don't like Kusanali cause she's not Rukkhadevata.
That's gotta hurt for Rukkhadevata. Imagine how much she has done and how much love she showed her people, then she got rebirthed into a state where she's basically helpless, but theres nothing to worry about, you cultivated your people, they'll help you, regardless of identity, cause we are the city of wisdom. But no, the sages now hated you, abused their power, manipulate your people for more power, and basically threw you in the side of the road, just cause your not her. All that things you done for them, you dedicate your life to your people regardless of who they are and what they've done, and they can't even do the same for you or others.
It's time to take revenge in act v by destroying their God Making project and time to burn and blast the whole akademiya with dynamite
I agree. It’s very disappointing to Kusanali/Rukkhadevata’s part. They literally punished her for saving them.
So "The world forgets me" now makes sense..
And consider how she's the last of the three gods who built sumeru, to die for your people only for your current form to be disregarded as a shell.
This is like in real world when ur no longer rich and powerful .
Scum humanity is
Yo, this makes the situation in Sumeru even scarier and more depressing. Imagine being turned away by the people you protect, even replaced.
Now the "World forget me..." makes sense.
Also, the prejudice between the two faction pisses me off A LOT.
Their Gods: Allies to each other.
Their Followers: Prejudiced between each other.
Yup. Humans suck.
I still don't get the world forget me part... Can you let me know does it fit with all this, please?
@@ragnot95 Kusanali & Rukkhadevata are same person. She said the world forget me because they all thought that Rukkha is already dead.
@@ragnot95 Kusanali said the Greater Lord's knowledge in the Irmunsol great tree has a dark aura around it so she can't access it. Mortals go insane when they try. So I guess her memories are corrupted like with a plague or something. She does say she thinks the Traveler is immune to the bad aura so... I guess we get to translate for everyone at some point.
I'm more pissed at the sages, they have been engineering this conflict for 500 years (since they locked up nahida). And kept the Desert folk in the dark about what really happened (they should know about their God's sacrifice, and how rukhadevata helped them). And now they are putting all the common folk and scholars in danger to create a new God. A God that hates other gods and humans and probably doesn't know what dottore or the sages are trying to achieve ... No matter which way you slice it, nahida, scaramouche and Sumeru as a whole are all being used for an impossible task, since the very thing that caused it is still being used (divine knowledge is probably also the knowledge that caused the withering and elezear).
So Venti, Zhongli, Ei and Nahida are all the archons who have reign since the Archon war. Does that mean the Archons had never changed just that being replaced or lose their powers. It does give us the question if the other Archons are the same as well, og Archons but with a twist.
Ei isn't the original archon. She's a kagemusha of the prev archon. She take the archon role after makoto died. So she's not the first archon
unless ei is not an og archon since she was a kagemusha of makoto
@@lapisincognito yes she is lol, she says that there were always two archons in inazuma, but the people didnt know, her sister was the one that take the gnosis yes, but that doesnt means anything, they were siblings so, two archons at the end of the day
Cryo archo too
@@lapisincognito the twins fought in the archon war and they won
I can't wait to see the sages reaction to this.
Not enough of us are talking about the GORGEOUSNESS, especially that sequence where Rukkhadevata becomes young
Guess they couldn't allow her to stay more beautiful than Raiden Ei. lol
I kind of wonder if Cyno is the reincarnation of that priest or something which is why he was staring at the tomb for a bit when everyone was about to leave.
Or direct ancestor.
Considering his affiliation is listed as “Temple of Silence” instead of Sumeru Akademia” like the others, I would be surprised if he wasn’t a direct descendant of the original Temple guardians
cam back here again after finishing the archon quest 3.2 (im balling my eyes out)
When I first heard "world forget me" I thought to myself that It kind of sounded like kusanali so after that I kinda had a mini theory of how kusanali/nahida was the previous dendro archon but she just forgot? I'm guessing the phrase world forget me though still missing some words maybe it's a spell that she made so that people that went insane after they learnt the forbidden knowledge thing went back to normal but I don't know we'll just have to find out.
Nahida reminded me of Guoba situation, shrinking & memory loss. Paimon is a strong possible third for this
Ngl I didn't even notice it wasn't supposed to be Kusanali. I thought she was gonna die.
She forgor 💀
I still feel like that whole phrase is just a fragment of a larger one. Like when you get static over the radio and the message is garbled. it's presented as "world...forget me..." what if she's actually saying " world, don't forget me" or something along that line?
So even tho the eremites hate her she sacrificed her strength for all people of sumeru including them. Hopefully they do find out what she did for them at some point and that king deshret was actually sort of the disaster bringer
Yea, he brought the forbidden knowledge, idk if he did it knowingly or unknowingly. He is said to have sacrificed himself.
@@ichigoichie369 looks like the same thing to Orobashi, he sacrificed himself because he reads the forbidden book.
Then what happened 500 years ago you know the Cataclysm?
I thought everyone was fighting against Khaenri'ah. So it means that Rukkhadevata was not present that time or somehow it lines up with King Deshret's mistakes and it is sort of their own war?
@@ViperDivinity possibly the cataclysm is a second time rukka drained her power
The cutscene here showed her reverting from tall adult to medium teenager, but the current nahida we see is a short child. So it's possible rukka drained her power again during the cataclysm
Now the Eremites joined forces with MC to Deal with the Frauds / sages and I guess not enemy side with kusanali anymore
Having done the story quest, aside from the mindblowing plot twist, one of the small details that is very dearing to me is the fact that Cyno quickly understood the situation that the Dendro Archon was with them all along, and his conviction was also very notable as well. I thought it's gonna be hard to one-up the aranara world story quest and here the genshin writers prove me wrong once again 😭👍
I feel that the sages led the people to believe in the wrong objects, which led to the loss of Nahida's power and the transformation of the forest
@NEOSAMA
Ithink the sages not to blame
But blame Dottore
Dottore decived the sages.
And ofc the fools
Believed dottore
So the case with Guoba transformation is actually secretly foreshadowing this case about the dendro archon
A direct foreshadowing would be the Aranaras. They were created directly by the Dendro Archon, have dream manipulation powers and to use and exert more power, they have to "sacrifice" their memories and at times, their whole selves (Arana).
So we can assumed that Paimon is another shrunked Gods
I KNEW IT, RUKKHADEVATA AT KUSANALI ARE THE SAME PERSON
How?
@@spymadmax584 1:48
@@spymadmax584 are you deaf?
@@Juls259 fuck, I mean how he knew it before
@@Shin_Haeiruu no I'm asking how you know it before 3.1
May your sacrifice being honoured for eternity
If they make Rukkhadevata as Kusanali skin, i will by it for sure
That would be super expensive since they would have to change her playable model for that skin🤣
i will pay for this for sure..
Trueeee Archons skin!!
prime archon skin, that'll be a cashgrab for sure
🚩🚩🚩
The moment they revealed that Kusanali's birthday was effectively the same day that Rukkhadevata supposedly died, I always felt this was too much of a coincidence. Glad to see it confirmed that they're actually one and the same.
This cutscene just made the whole Aranara quest even more impactful.
you know what is fun? its that everywhere we go in the game, elemental energy is hinted as being the power of memories since the start, for example, Zhong li that is already suffering from corrosion, and he somewhat suggested that its like a fatigue so big, like a mental overload, that end up causing them forget of their role as a archon, like acting like they dont care anymore. We see the same thing when we go to inazuma, that is the whole point of the problems there, Ei's fear of being corroded, of losing her memories, probably of her sister, after in her quest she even state that the ley line roots we see everywhere absorbs memories that later expels the power as elemental energy. So its totally plausible that a archon that exhausted their power could end up in a weak state without their memories, and its most likely what happened with the dendro archon, she fought at the war and got soo weak that she turned small and without her memories and it's now the "new" dendro archo, kusanali is rukkadevata, she just dont remember, we even play a whole imense quest with the aranaras that rubs all over our face the fact that their memories are the fuel for ther magic, its pretty much obvious at this point
So Scarlet king was the cause of Eleazar and the medical notes describe how severe it was before the king sacrificed himself as an emergency damage control. Even though the root cause already sacrificed himself, there are still people getting the disease and the forest still gets the withering. And I think the Marana avatar is a remnant of the forbidden knowledge.
This is some next level cthulhu hidden knowledge.
Once they discover void archive in Genshin, we can finally prove that Genshin is indeed a pocket universe.
"Everything in this world runs in a loop"
God dammit
nahida spoke about samsara
This really shows knowledge is a scary thing in teyvat. Remember orabashi, the giant snake that kokomi's people worships, was sentenced to death by celestia because he got a GLIMPSE of the true origins of teyvat
Just want to clarify. Rukkhadevata is NOT Nahida. This cutscene happened thousands of years ago, likely just after the archon war. Yes Rukhadevata became a small child after using all her power, but she still had her memories and was still Rukkhadevata. This was probably when the archon statues of her were built as she would officially be the Dendro archon at this point.
It was only 500 years ago when Nahida was created by her. Nahida has a different body, new memories, personality, etc.
(I’m not good at describing the process but originally Rukhadevata and Nahida were different. But after Rukkhadevata terminated herself from the Irminsul that is when all of teyvat saw Nahida AS Rukkhadevata as you all are saying now. But Rukhadevata is NOT Nahida.)
soooo.... NAHIDA IS ALSO ONE OF THE ORIGINAL ARCHONS LIKE VENTI AND ZHONGLI!?!?!?!?!
Oh my... THIS IS SHOCKING INFORMATION!!!!!
Technically. The 4 Archons since the Archonwar are still her.
Venti, Zhongli, Ei and Kusanali (Rukkadevata)
@@silverhawkscape2677 if i remember correctly, Ei wasnt the archon back then but her sister, makoto. she became the archon after the war which killed her sister. so technically, the original archons are just venti, zhongli and kusanali. do correct me if im wrong
Ei and Macoto shared the role, with ei being the physical fighting one and Macoto being the leader
@@neiro_ They both shared archonship bt Ei was acting as a shadow and Makoto was the one known to the public
And then the traveler asked if she knows his sister whereabouts and dendro acron say "I don't know lol"
I won’t place the scarlet king as the bad guy yet, what if the forbidden knowledge he gave to his people was actually the true origin of the gods of celestia!
Remember orobashi?
At first we thought he was a villain, but turns out he was only trying to protect his people because he accidentally discovered the true origin of the celestial gods.
I think its something in that direction but not that specifically, 'cause the punishment were too different to be the same "crime"
@@bunny8372 the forbidden knowlegde is from khaenri'ah aka abyss
@@massimilianoreali4398 khaenri'ah now is the abyss, the moment that the Scarlet king searched for that it's previous. So abyss =/= khaenri'ah in the time line.
@@bunny8372 i think their knowlegde is the same but they not have a nation so they called the abyss but i believe that is always khaenri'ah
@@massimilianoreali4398 I differ. I think that the abyss that was around 500+ years ago was another thing, and when khaenri'ah was destroyed by celestia and cursed, they joined the abyss and they are now what we know the abyss force is.
So basically, all the 4 Archons we've met up until now are original Archons who built up their nations, including Ei since she was there along with Makoto. From the start, we thought there are only 2 original Archons who are still alive, Barbartos and Morax respectively. But it turns out to be 4.
Yep, that's why you don't judge the cover of the book if you haven't even read it inside. Almost half of the players hates nahida just because she's white and thinks she's not the original but hey, atleast I know
After Sumeru... all archons will be new
@@teardroplexi-kun1701 i love Nahida so much one of the cutest archon, I'm ready to give my primos to her
now i think the hydro archon is actually not one of the ogs, at least based from rhodeia's(oceanid) attitude towards her. but hey, she could just be mistaken just like the sages lol so idk anymore.
@@Yan-wg5hg hydro archon maybe funny like Bennett 😐
I just watched this cutscene today, and damn I was right. I knew Kusasanali is Rukkhadevata. For sure for all the players who think the same felt what I felt during the cutscene.
the music when it reveals she is nahida gives me goosebumps. such a cool sequence!
As most people already talked about how Rukkadevata is actually Kusanali, it begs a question of is the divine canned knowledge is the forbidden knowledge that Scarlet King bought before in this cutscene? If so, it's kinda ironic.
It isn't... that is likely the same forbidden shit Khanriah mess with.
Divine knowledge capsules has only info from Irminsul and it's part of that world. I think we ll understand what this "forbidden knowledge" is when we figure out what is damaging Irminsul because withering zones and eleazar are consequence of this, which is also what's shown in the cutscene.
@@nive7711 i mean....how true is that in the end? Can be just more sage propaganda to get more mad scholars. After all, it's not Irminsul that Haypasia connected to
@@floricel_112 I believed she hit the Irminsul, but the entire tree suffer significant damage/withering. And the fact it might be hooked to the Bath-hat wasn't helping.
Trust me, that thing they are piling on him isn't Divine Knowledge. Only Nahida can read the capsule and tell us what it was, but the logic didn't make sense.
Think about it. Divine Knowlege=Knowledge of the God, Divine Knowledge=Insanity, thus the Dendro Archon is insane... no shit sherlock. Nahida and Rukka isn't insane. There is no way in seven hell it is thier power source (likely Nahida use the same method as Aranara). I am betting my ass this is an insane Khanriah shit taking a form of Nahida's self-doubt.
@@floricel_112 I think the part about connecting to Irminsul is actually true as the traveller did it with a little stimulus from spirit borneal and Haypasia also was able to do it a few times but she went mad during Satyavada stage. This probably indicates the extent to which a normal human can get.The paripurna stage must be something the sages made up like you said.
Also this forbidden knowledge can now be present in Irminsul since it has already been brought to this world.
So the irony here if we compare it to Aranara quest is that the akademiya effectively "killed" Rukkhadevata by not teaching Kusanali anything she supposed to know.
Instead of guiding her to become another Rukkhadevata, they imprisoned her but still rely on her gnosis cause they too hungry for knowledge.
Now they trying to create a god to pursue their "wisdom"
In the end what they want isn't Rukkhadevata but her knowledge.
Basically what The Jester said in winter night lazzo is true. "The sages thinks themselves to be all-knowing" but they just bunch of hypocrite.
In the end the sages are repeating the mistakes that the Scarlet king had made.
i love the animation so much i would kill to have this artstyle
Ahhhh I almost forgot that size shrinking thing happen to Gouba too
"Go celebrate the birth of *that* God" indeed, you old geezer. I can't wait to see the look on his face when he learns the truth.
Nahida is still cute but I would’ve loved to have played her in her origins form! She’s SO beautiful here!
then its like ignoring this story / her sacrifice
pretty sure a lot of people will accept her as a child archon because it make sense now
Im fine with either form, one is beautiful the other is adorable
So far my fav style for cutscenes
The way I legit got goosebumps during his last sentence towards the children of the desert, like wow man
Here after that heartbreaking final act of Sumeru's Archon Quest. You will be remembered by me, Greater Lord Rukkhadevata!
Shame on alot of the people who thought she's a useless archon at the beginning (just like those who with initial impression on Lisa, Traveller, Amber, Keqing, etc). Even if you dook dook now, your sins cannot be flushed away.
the timeline doesn't fit
scarlet king died thousands years ago
the previous dendro archon disapeared 500 years ago
I'm starting to believe more and more that Paimon is a Primordial/Original God
My guess is she's more like a "part" of a god. Wouldn't make sense for it to be the exact same situation as kusanali, I doubt hoyoverse would use the same story twice.
@@1112-m6p thrice* it happened with gouba too
@@floraslia oh yeah forgot about that
So that's why in Sumeru there was a line during the storylines talking about like the "cycle of life". From the promotional teasers on Sumeru. Nahida said:
"Everything in this world runs in a loop. As for the truth, that's on you to find out. So no matter how strange or spooky things might look on the surface, maybe all they point to in the end is a small and simple secret".
Wow everything about this scene was amazing, the bgm is simple but it still gave me chills.
We know that Kusanali is actually Rukkhadevata, and now we also know that someone that looks like an Ancestor of Cyno also knows who Kusanali truly is
I'm glad to find this, I thought this cutscene was quite moving and I only wanted to see it again when it ended
Damn Sages lock the wrong person
I can't wait to see their faces in 3.2 when they see how they messed up big time.
To be fair it’s also possible they knew the whole time but wanted to keep it secret so they could become the sole rulers of sumeru and sideline the dendro archon in her own region
@@romulushamilton3937 Depends on how many knew. Pretty sure a lot of them would Rebel if they found out.
@@romulushamilton3937 well, that's even worse.
@@romulushamilton3937 i mean nahida had the knowledge of a child when they found her and she doesn't have any memories, pretty much a new person
Bro genshins cut scene art has improved so much
OMFG I DIDNT PLAY GENSHIN SINCE AUGUST BUT I STILL HAVE THE GAME IT’S JUST THE NURSING STUDENT LIFE IS HARD TO U KNOW..MANAGE IT AKFSIXJSKAJSJXS BUT OMFG ITS CONFIRMED?! NAHIDA JUST SHRUNK 😭 PLEASE LET HER GROW AGAIN SHE’S SO GORGEOUS EVEN AS A CHILD
I have two theories:
1. Nahida did lose all the wisdom and sages deemed her as useless, so she had to gain knowledge through Akashi and become the archon we know today. This girl had 500 years to learn, so...
2. Nahida does remember everything, but decided to fool sages into thinking she's not useful for them since she's smart enough to understand that sages should not be trusted or they'll abuse the knowledge.
Anyway Sumeru's lore is a huge step up for Genshin in general. They served interesting messages and made me use all of my braincells to come to these conclusions. And sho far Nahida is such a great archon and a character I love her.
This soundtrack is absolutely divine!! Goosebumps!!✨
Props to the people who animated this cutscene, especially at the end there holy shit
Helping Scarlet King Shrunk into Teen. Helping Cataclysm 500 Years Ago Shrunk into Small Child.
Helping Traveler Againts Harbinger = Nahida Guoba Size.
What
Isn't Guoba size technically a child size? Off-topic seeing (edited) and "Againts" made my night somehow brighter.
Poor Nahida sacrificed so many things just to not be accepted as a goddes
This makes me love Kusanali more. She just lost her powers. I hate those sages. I can't wait for 3.2 to drop so we can rescue her and defeat those noobs.
Even if Nahida really is Rukkhadevata, the Sages won't care.
They just see her as a child devoid of wisdom. So the want to create a new god instead.
Sages see Nahida as a living elemental being for experimentation and exploitation i.e. Sages and "Balladeer" are abusing her while in her weakened form.
This is the first cutscene that has given me the chills.
0:22 love how the ost got sang cheerfully probably by the orchestra kids that did the tales of the snow mountain and song of innocence while the people literally shown being mad and got cursed lmao
i also find it interesting how when we expect the og archon are only venti and zhongli now, actually still have 4 of them. makoto and ei ruled inazuma together as one as makoto become the "face"/"light" while ei as "right-hand"/"shadow". and nahida, was actually rukkhadevata who lost her power and memories thus make her reversing back to be a child. so in a sense, the og archons that died don't got "replaced" completely, but by someone who still have essense/connection of them
while i find it interesting, i kinda wish there's og archon who got replaced completely. like how venti replacing decarabian. there's still 3 countries left, so who knows
I wonder if that the same choir that did the aranaras song
so this is what happened a timeline.
- the scarlet king discovered forbidden knowledge (the abyss). this resulted in the suffering of his people.
- ruhkkadevata arrived to save the desert.. with the help of the scarlet king they built monuments to seal the abyss. this however resulted in the sacrifice of the scarlet king.
- many years later (less than a 100 years presumably which is 1 lifetime) khaenriah managed to get a hold of this forbidden knowledge.
- khaenriah used the forbidden knowledge they found in the scarlet king empire ruins and this resulted in the cataclysm.
- during the cataclysm and the fight at khaenriah the sage saw the vision of rukkhadevata fighting... using all her power to seal the abyss once again. but she is alone and did not have the help of the scarlet king it consumed almost all her power transforming her into nahida.
this cutscene pretty much explains 4 things
1. the origin of the abyss.. it was the scarlet king who discovered it.
2. how khaenriah managed to get a hold of abyssal knowledge... they found it sealed in the desert.
3. what was rukkhadevata's role during the cataclysm.... she literally played janitor to clean up all the filth in teyvat.
4. rukkhadevata is nahida and the dendro archon did not die... the only known confirmed casualty among the gods now during the cataclysm is Makoto.
This only shows that Gods do really help one another. Kinda reminds me of Monstadt and Liyue's close relationship since the two nations are close to each other and so are their Gods.
00:42 greater lord Rukvadevata 01:41best transformation
I was right, I guessed that the Scarlet King was probably part of a circle of benevolent gods similar to Orobachi but external circumstances caused his fall from grace, though I will admit I was wrong about him competing with Murata for the status of pyro archon
So, Rukkhadevata and Kusanali share the same consciousness but different memories. Rukkhadevata used a significant amount of her power to help the people of the desert, which caused her to shrink in size and lose her memories. She essentially used her memories to generate power, just like the Aranara, and used said power to help her people. As a result, she “died” because she lost all of her memories related to being Rukkhadevata. The day she “died” was the day Kusanali was “born” as it was the rebirth of the same consciousness, ready to make brand new memories related to being Kusanali. I think Rukkhadevata and Kusanali’s situation is somewhat similar to a person having a bad accident, falling into a brief coma, and waking up having lost all of their past memories. It’s still technically the same person, the same consciousness, but the memories of their past and current self are separate.
Exactly. Same person and "entity", just different memories.
What if the current 7 archons we have right now are actually, TECHNICALLY, still the Original Seven... Like there's only plot twist and turns that deviate the players and maybe even the people of Teyvat (in specific nations) into thinking that the archons today aren't the original ones.
Might be farfetched but yeah... just a running theory.
ok but can we talk about this animation? these transitions and the part where the Greater Lord's hair flows and changes style a bit looked amazing!
Imagine Nahida’s burst turning into her adult form 😂
Try again next time
sorry but theres already leak of what her burst looks like
Nahida adult form just beautiful
I knew it Rukkhadevata and Nahida are the same person T-T
Rukkhadevata made the Akasha and Nahida can posses people with the Akasaha.
It really does kinda go together considering how Guoba had done the same thing PLUS it was really suspicious how an archon could just disappear out of the blue.
Our archons are becoming more and more “not the originals since the war” but we haven’t fully gotten there yet. Venti and Zhongli ofc though credit goes to Guizhong for getting Zhongli started, then Ei has always been there and was face and did half the job since the start. Maybe by the time we see Tsaritsa’s story, she’s the first archon who ascended from a genuine, humble human?
She's the kindest Archon till now
Wow. The Greater Lord would probably also have been a nice playable character.
And I somehow always had a weakness for white/silver hair.
Don't worry I have the same weakness.
I love silver hair girls
Me too
Same
No seriously same. Guess that's why my first ever fictional character 'crush' is kakashi. Then we have arlecchino and now I'm basically a shrimp for original nahida
Thanks for saving the cut scenes i like to see them again🤗
It's very interesting how the priest wore the same outfit/head piece as Cyno.
It's true that Kusanali is Rukkhadevata... But if I wanted to say something to her it would be "Who you were in the past doesn't matter, now you're someone different, but you still love the people of Sumeru even thought they didn't respect you. As the archon of this nation you didn't fail, neither in the past, neither in the present. Be proud of who you are". She will never be Rukkhadevata again, she's now Kusanali, and no matter what the Sages says, she's loved by far more people that what they think. Sumeru is called the nation of wisdom, but I would prefer to call the the nation of ignorance: the fact that after everything that their archon did for them, they still choose to pursue wisdom and lock up their new deity makes you realize how greedy humans are, to the point to not respect those that sacrificed themselves for them and speculate about the use of the Akasha system and give up their own culture for this objective. It's actually so sad that for 500 years Kusanali never received the respect she deserved only because her "birth" meant that Rukkhadevata was "gone".
the first time the rukka use her power, she becomes small child and retain her memories. this is the time the sages tried to control her power. the second time she becomes child and lose her memories and thus the sages are disappointed not able to control the reborn god power.
Ah this video appeared on my recommendation before I do the quest. No problem, now I'm really curious about the story. It's gonna be good.
I was crying when Greater Lord said the world will have to forget her, sumeru has the best lore both in history and the one happening(the one we play through)
Honestly a bit disgusting how people react. They complained about her being a light skinned but they actually wanted a hot mommy to simp over.
God this cutscene is so incredible. I really need to get my hands on this forbidden knowledge the man kept talking about lol.
So Aranara taught us the REAL story all along…
"As long as forbidden knowledge continued to exist, it would forver blight this world".
Maybe Rukkhadevata actually wants to have an amnesia so that she could also forget the "forbidden knowledge".
The most important cutscene yet.