Chessie System (the Sleeping Kitten) is one of the forerunners of CSX (and the current Norfolk Southern). Chessie's core was eastern Maryland, but west of Chesapeake Bay; B&O was based in (naturally) Baltimore, but west of the Kitten. Note the Western Maryland loco - WMR handled Maryland and that section of Appalacian "coal country" (Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, and part of eastern Ohio).
Great video, buddy. That "Pere Marquette," (18:00) in its simplicity, is a thing of beauty. Thank you for your service, sir. My son was airborne, in Texas, but I am retired Navy.
Pretty cool video especially the shots of 1309. I guess we know now why it was moved lol, can't wait to see it up and running again, and in my hometown!!
I never actually saw em run. In the shop we took em apart and put em back together. B&O Newark Oh, 1957-58. Nelson Buskey was the foreman, I worked as apprentice to Art Davis. I ran back and forth getting wrenches and other tools for him; I did change a lot of michiana filters. They let me put in a few cylinder liners (and I never 'skinned an oring seal!!) I helped replace a bunch of heads. 300lb torque on the 7:1 gearbox to get the crab nuts tight. Woulda stayed but when they got rid of ALL the apprentices and even tradesmen in 58 I had no choice. With a brand new fleet of 50 A units they wewnt gonna need too much maintenance for quite some time. They only kept journeymen in the most crucial trades.. Those were the halcyon days of my youth. LOL
bill began One if my uncles put together engine nacelles on P-38s at Lockheed then went to the B-17 line before shipping out for D-Day. Nothing left if the old Burbank plant anymore...it's now a shopping center
DeserT BoB Awesome, have you ever seen the camouflage they put over that plant and many others on the coast,try to find pics of it,made it look like a suburb area and it was so real looking,most of my uncles and friends of my family were in the war,marines,pilots and so on.A couple of their friends were shot down over Germany and packed in rail cars so tight that if one died there was no room for them to fall,absolute horror stories. ☹
you know whats sad about this place is the fact nothing runs.. all those amazing diesels just left to rot.. let me guess cost prohibitive right. I just don't get it.. these engines and such would be much more enjoyable if they ran oh well one can wish right =)
They've been sitting outside exposed to elements for well over 20 years. That's why they were removed from display. Most of the Museum's resources are going towards other projects at the moment.
Did they really just use a chain hooked up to the 3802s coupler to haul the B&O 6405...??? Terrible idea, if that chain snapped... plus, they had spare knuckes sitting right there! if the knucke broke, why not just replace it?
I was stationed there for almost 10 years before a series of unfortunate events in Iraq cut my career short. Do you volunteer at the Tennessee Central Railway Museum. I noticed your profile picture.
I believe you are referring to the WM BL2, w/slug 138T attached. A slug is a helper with traction motors but no prime mover. Electric power comes from the attached locomotive.
I also would like to state at 8:50 you can see a chain on the engineers ladder side clearly not latched or taken care of after all it is just dangling there and the fact that they didn't properly do this and used a chain that is not supposed to be used makes this move even worse... &@13:06 where is this brakeman sir conductors safety chain at .....@14:29 there is no air hose connected to the 2nd load of the consistent that the diesel locomotive is hooked into there should always be a connection in between any 2 pieces of railroad rolling stock what if the piece of rolling stock was stuck and the only way to move it without damaging it was to put air in it and the brakeman or the conductor or even the engineer forget to do that and say your in the middle of nowhere and that piece that's not hooked up decides it wants to break loose than what
From what I saw both knuckle coupler's pins dropped and they were locked together but, that black guy kept messing with them but, that is just my opinion and don't hold it to me if I'm wrong since I ain't in the railroading profession !
+Aura Hyel What can you do with those roofs (rooves?) You tell them and tell them to stop rusting, but they go right ahead and rust anyway. I told them not to rust, I nagged them, I showed them a copy of the "No Rust" rule, but nooo...they know more than we do. Of course they don't do it while we are looking...they wait until we are busy somewhere else, and then just rust away. Ah, what can you do???
Tiger Rule seldom used couplers can be a pain to get latched. It's best to only open one knuckle. A little speed will shake the pin into place also. Since these guys are volunteers and not railroaders, they don't know some of the tricks. Having some experienced guys around would help them learn.
Bill Moran also the guy standing there clearly knows no proper hand signals and also clearly does not realize that the right hand couplers have to be lined up not out of alignment and clearly was not trained on proper PPE and about pulling his dam pants up
Only one knuckle has to be open, but coupling on a curve just plain sucks and is a crap shoot. Looked like he had them coupled at one point but them pulled the uncoupling lever.
Thanks for your video. Please check out my original songs, He Wasn't Just A Dog and Evergreen (We Remain). Thanks for listening and thanks for your video.
+Johnny Schuster (If you are still around...) It is not a matter of "need." This is a museum, and the men are probably volunteers...boys playing with trains, just walking around with their volunteer badges on, absorbing the atmosphere, smelling that train smell, getting out of the house and away from the wife for awhile...I wish I lived in that area.
Will someone turn those effing bells off! What is it with American Railways and their bloody bells ringing all the time, not to mention constant horn usage.No wonder they have trouble with so many accidents, people ignore them!
wow b-17 and trains
I love that opening shot of the B-17 flying over. Beautiful beasts like that helped to end world war II!
That chessie system loco is absolutely fine art!
Is that train picture from Roanoke VA which might come back next year?
Did anybody notice Chessie the Cat? That's some fine railroading history there!
Chessie System (the Sleeping Kitten) is one of the forerunners of CSX (and the current Norfolk Southern). Chessie's core was eastern Maryland, but west of Chesapeake Bay; B&O was based in (naturally) Baltimore, but west of the Kitten. Note the Western Maryland loco - WMR handled Maryland and that section of Appalacian "coal country" (Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, and part of eastern Ohio).
The ground shots, particular the 2705 and 1309, are spectacular.
Great video, buddy. That "Pere Marquette," (18:00) in its simplicity, is a thing of beauty. Thank you for your service, sir. My son was airborne, in Texas, but I am retired Navy.
+Paul Edstock Thank You and Your Welcome. :)
The gentle man in the white shirt and brown trousers at 8.06 minutes is a solid worker he is always in the videos working in the yard
My favorite railroad of all time has to be the Monon. Nice video. I enjoyed it.
WOW! NICE on-the-rail and under-the-train camera shots!!
Great documentary. Ground shots are amazing.
Thanks!
Awesome video a big like♥️✌🤝🔔
Thanks!
WOW ! A B-17 & vintage trains gr8 vid!
majestic plane... beautiful
Pretty cool video especially the shots of 1309. I guess we know now why it was moved lol, can't wait to see it up and running again, and in my hometown!!
Thank you.
A GP30 with a working turbo...that's rare.
DeserT BoB there’s one in nc
Nice! The BL-2 is amazing, if only she was on the rails again doing her work!
Thanks!
I never actually saw em run. In the shop we took em apart and put em back together. B&O Newark Oh, 1957-58. Nelson Buskey was the foreman, I worked as apprentice to Art Davis. I ran back and forth getting wrenches and other tools for him; I did change a lot of michiana filters. They let me put in a few cylinder liners (and I never 'skinned an oring seal!!) I helped replace a bunch of heads. 300lb torque on the 7:1 gearbox to get the crab nuts tight. Woulda stayed but when they got rid of ALL the apprentices and even tradesmen in 58 I had no choice. With a brand new fleet of 50 A units they wewnt gonna need too much maintenance for quite some time. They only kept journeymen in the most crucial trades.. Those were the halcyon days of my youth. LOL
Love that shot of the Memphis Belle at 0:55!
not the Belle
love shot of chessie system ==keep video's comeing
Awesome video,thank you,B17. WAS A BIG PLUS. 😊
Your welcome!
B17-G, probably built at Lockheed, Burbank.
DeserT BoB My mom was a Rosie the riveter and riveted the wings on B-24 Liberators in Willow Run Ford plant in Michigan. 😊
bill began One if my uncles put together engine nacelles on P-38s at Lockheed then went to the B-17 line before shipping out for D-Day. Nothing left if the old Burbank plant anymore...it's now a shopping center
DeserT BoB Awesome, have you ever seen the camouflage they put over that plant and many others on the coast,try to find pics of it,made it look like a suburb area and it was so real looking,most of my uncles and friends of my family were in the war,marines,pilots and so on.A couple of their friends were shot down over Germany and packed in rail cars so tight that if one died there was no room for them to fall,absolute horror stories. ☹
Cool video
Very informative
Love the B-17
Nice open with the B17
Nice Action Haven't been up there since the crippling snow storm
How did they let you take that shot right next to the rails! That was an impressive shot.
Thanks! I'll do my best.
They were trying to couple the two locomotives together but were having some issues.
Oh good job there fellas
Wow. So this was just two years before 1309 left the museum.
Yes it is. It was giving paying customers rides over downtown Baltimore.
That's some strong ass chain. I'm guessing that was a broken knuckle or pin
MultiMonster69 that's called a car chain he pulled 6405to straight track to get the pin to drop
Nice shot of Boeing Bee in disguise.
An unexpected treat that day!
Oh! An EMD BL2!
Also, is that a B-17 bomber at the end? Seems like it...
Not just "trains", but 1309, that's a special engine. Glad to see this happen. Would like to donate - whats thew address?
I would like to see you try to push a locomotive
you know whats sad about this place is the fact nothing runs.. all those amazing diesels just left to rot.. let me guess cost prohibitive right. I just don't get it.. these engines and such would be much more enjoyable if they ran oh well one can wish right =)
I figured you would like that.
Why did they move the 1309 and 2705?
why was the museum mmoving almost all of there display equitment?
In Baltimore, Maryland.
Wow at 33:38............awesome!
Her face at 34:20....
They've been sitting outside exposed to elements for well over 20 years. That's why they were removed from display. Most of the Museum's resources are going towards other projects at the moment.
What about the Marc train that was sitting there?
Where's this at?
whats that ticking sound while idling? Ive always wanted to know.
I've wondered the same thing... I think it is just static discharge from the generators.
I believe it's the sound of letting of moisture that's In the air tanks through what's called a spitter but I could be wrong
TFN5459 it’s a slow spitter and I’m pretty sure your definition is right I know what it’s called not what it is
Did they really just use a chain hooked up to the 3802s coupler to haul the B&O 6405...??? Terrible idea, if that chain snapped... plus, they had spare knuckes sitting right there! if the knucke broke, why not just replace it?
Bryson Grondin the knuckle didn't break he had to pull 6405 to straight track to get the pin to drop
3802 is a GP38-2
He was trying to get the pin to set/drop.
Where is this place?
Why is one coupler higher than the other? Aren't there regulations dictating height?
true i was there a month before and the steam locomotives looked like shit!
why were they moving the 1309 and the other loco
6944 looks like it could use some TLC
Stephen Hunter It has since been restored to full beauty.
Did 2705 and 1309 swap tenders?
Nope
Hope ya don't mind me asking, but what airborne division did you serve in?
101st Airborne Division located on Ft Campbell, Kentucky.
MrImpossiblyBlack Well, I very proudly live in (and born and raised in) Clarksville, Tennessee.
I was stationed there for almost 10 years before a series of unfortunate events in Iraq cut my career short. Do you volunteer at the Tennessee Central Railway Museum. I noticed your profile picture.
MrImpossiblyBlack Well, I'm sorry to hear about that. And yes, I do occasionally, marching band can get in my way.
even more funny, he was pushing the cut lever which = uncoupling...
The coupling attempts and the chain tow were painful to watch.
I agree they should have gotten someone that knew his stuff and got it coupled.
what was happening at 6:14?
The guy coupling kinda looked like he didn’t know what he was doing
EMD GP-7.
why don't they put a knuckle in that locomotive
What is that at 19:42, #138-T? Is that an EMD B unit from the 50's?
I believe you are referring to the WM BL2, w/slug 138T attached. A slug is a helper with traction motors but no prime mover. Electric power comes from the attached locomotive.
David Warnick Interesting. Thanks.
does any of these engines still work?
NO, they are all dead. All the engine noises were expertly dubbed in later.
what tipe of engine is the B&O 6405?
Sgt.Doe EMD GP10
oh ok
Could have added narration
at 6:15, this guy shows how much about railroading he don't know
amen
love the bl-2
I also would like to state at 8:50 you can see a chain on the engineers ladder side clearly not latched or taken care of after all it is just dangling there and the fact that they didn't properly do this and used a chain that is not supposed to be used makes this move even worse... &@13:06 where is this brakeman sir conductors safety chain at .....@14:29 there is no air hose connected to the 2nd load of the consistent that the diesel locomotive is hooked into there should always be a connection in between any 2 pieces of railroad rolling stock what if the piece of rolling stock was stuck and the only way to move it without damaging it was to put air in it and the brakeman or the conductor or even the engineer forget to do that and say your in the middle of nowhere and that piece that's not hooked up decides it wants to break loose than what
For 1 through 3 car moves you are mot required to attach the hose but it is recommended
@5:26 PULL YA DAM PANTS UP SON!!
Why do them steamers look like they aint seen any care in the past 20 years?
From what I saw both knuckle coupler's pins dropped and they were locked together but, that black guy kept messing with them but, that is just my opinion and don't hold it to me if I'm wrong since I ain't in the railroading profession !
They definitely looked coupled to me, then he immediately uncoupled them
I Think I see the problem at 5:17
Holy shit that guy is blind ray Charles and Stevie wonder could have coupled that Train 🚂 first try no problem
They weren't in any real condition to be displayed to the public.
Some of the equipment, particularly passenger, is in shocking condition. Why have the roofs been allowed to rust?
+Aura Hyel What can you do with those roofs (rooves?) You tell them and tell them to stop rusting, but they go right ahead and rust anyway. I told them not to rust, I nagged them, I showed them a copy of the "No Rust" rule, but nooo...they know more than we do. Of course they don't do it while we are looking...they wait until we are busy somewhere else, and then just rust away. Ah, what can you do???
why dont they slam into it like they do in the past whats wrong with it
Tiger Rule seldom used couplers can be a pain to get latched. It's best to only open one knuckle. A little speed will shake the pin into place also. Since these guys are volunteers and not railroaders, they don't know some of the tricks. Having some experienced guys around would help them learn.
Bill Moran also the guy standing there clearly knows no proper hand signals and also clearly does not realize that the right hand couplers have to be lined up not out of alignment and clearly was not trained on proper PPE and about pulling his dam pants up
15:15
Face reveal
guy is CLUELESS when it comes to operating couplers....knuckles have to be open and pin has to drop
Only one knuckle has to be open, but coupling on a curve just plain sucks and is a crap shoot. Looked like he had them coupled at one point but them pulled the uncoupling lever.
Thanks for your video. Please check out my original songs, He Wasn't Just A Dog and Evergreen (We Remain). Thanks for listening and thanks for your video.
Do you really need dozens of people just for a shunting job where they can go do something?
+Johnny Schuster (If you are still around...) It is not a matter of "need." This is a museum, and the men are probably volunteers...boys playing with trains, just walking around with their volunteer badges on, absorbing the atmosphere, smelling that train smell, getting out of the house and away from the wife for awhile...I wish I lived in that area.
Its just a generic K5LA
Was that boring or what?
lol we can see the black man s shorts lol
Will someone turn those effing bells off! What is it with American Railways and their bloody bells ringing all the time, not to mention constant horn usage.No wonder they have trouble with so many accidents, people ignore them!
Thanks!
Thanks!