Today you have given me the key to unlock my own prison. Thank you for this freedom message. After all these decades in the church, I never understood forgiveness this way, so I have never been able to fully express God's design in myself because of the deep wounds I thought I had forgiven that have been damming it up and blocking it from flowing. No wonder I feel like I've never lived my purpose - It can't be expressed in an unforgiving, traumatized person. It can only be freely expressed in a free and forgiving one. The devil can't have anything in me! Wow, did you hear a woman weeping all the way out in Virginia? It was me. Thank you.
Can you help me understand something?? I heard this for the first time 2 weeks ago and have been walking and practicing it. It's transformational - even if it produces no change in my offender, I have peace and hope for my future. However, I have a really BIG question... WHY DID JESUS who was ONE with God (AND STEPHEN THE MARTYR) HAVE TO ASK GOD THE FATHER to "forgive them for they know not what they do"? Was Father God not already in a position of forgiving them? Jesus is one with the Father - the expression of Him fully. He didn't condemn the woman caught in adultery. Jesus apparently did not condemn the people crucifying Him, so why would he need to ASK the FATHER to forgive? Isn't it a given that Father forgave them already, which was demonstrated by Jesus' actions and life? I don't understand why we are asking HIM to forgive. Please help
Does anyone understand why we need to ask the Father to forgive? Isn’t He always the forgiver- like not in a posture of judgment as Jesus showed us with the woman caught in adultery. I really am trying to understand this. Why did Jesus even have to ask the Father to forgive the ones crucifying him for they “know not what they do?” How could we possibly have a more forgiving nature than God? So much so that we would have to ask Him to forgive others? instead of asking Him to help US forgive THEM??? I think I’m missing something and might be looking through old glasses… Let’s talk! Anyone’s thoughts?
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Today you have given me the key to unlock my own prison. Thank you for this freedom message. After all these decades in the church, I never understood forgiveness this way, so I have never been able to fully express God's design in myself because of the deep wounds I thought I had forgiven that have been damming it up and blocking it from flowing. No wonder I feel like I've never lived my purpose - It can't be expressed in an unforgiving, traumatized person. It can only be freely expressed in a free and forgiving one. The devil can't have anything in me! Wow, did you hear a woman weeping all the way out in Virginia? It was me. Thank you.
Can you help me understand something?? I heard this for the first time 2 weeks ago and have been walking and practicing it. It's transformational - even if it produces no change in my offender, I have peace and hope for my future. However, I have a really BIG question... WHY DID JESUS who was ONE with God (AND STEPHEN THE MARTYR) HAVE TO ASK GOD THE FATHER to "forgive them for they know not what they do"? Was Father God not already in a position of forgiving them? Jesus is one with the Father - the expression of Him fully. He didn't condemn the woman caught in adultery. Jesus apparently did not condemn the people crucifying Him, so why would he need to ASK the FATHER to forgive? Isn't it a given that Father forgave them already, which was demonstrated by Jesus' actions and life? I don't understand why we are asking HIM to forgive. Please help
Does anyone understand why we need to ask the Father to forgive? Isn’t He always the forgiver- like not in a posture of judgment as Jesus showed us with the woman caught in adultery. I really am trying to understand this. Why did Jesus even have to ask the Father to forgive the ones crucifying him for they “know not what they do?” How could we possibly have a more forgiving nature than God? So much so that we would have to ask Him to forgive others? instead of asking Him to help US forgive THEM??? I think I’m missing something and might be looking through old glasses… Let’s talk! Anyone’s thoughts?