Wonder how many times he roared just to tell Abdiel he’s trying to take a crap but instead she kept attacking him because she was provoked by the roar? XD
All the other Gods watching Abdiel eat her own words by getting baited by a demon on a toilet and poked by a child. Zeus: Funniest shit I have seen today!
I mean when Bethel was only held together under the threat of God doing worse to them, they have no reason to be loyal or see it as anything more than knife at their throat. These same angels were the ones who told the Japaneee Gods not to interfere when the Conception happened 18 years ago, and Da’at was the result of God’s hubris.
Maybe not. When you met her at the second da‘at, she obviously just killed some students who had knowledge of Baal or other ancient gods. And I'm pretty sure she doesn't care much about the 10 million residents of Tokyo that is about to disappear.
@@adennielsen5371 But at the end of the fight "a new world order" was said. This is predictive programming. SMT constantly antigonises God. "Illumine the horizon" obvious reference to satan and how he "gave" Eve the fruit of knowledge as light represents knowledge.
I felt sad for her When she looses it's like her faith being tested and the fact that she din't tried to commit genocide or attacked Ichiro when he came for her aleardy shows how Abdiel is probably the nicest angel in these series
Speaking as a Law player, Abdiel as a dangerous zealot who tries to weaponize and enforce her own willful ignorance on others. She realizes empathy is a virtuous trait to have, but she has no idea how to use it herself. If Tsukiyomi didn't kill her, I would have had to put her down myself
@@dewo277e9 Mastema is pretty selfish, he mainly aligns with Law cause he thinks he can ascend to a better form and he pussys out in New Law and Neutral, and he's pretty twisted in IV And even if Satan felt bad about it too late, he still commited/attempted global genocide
if you think about it, Dazai is seeing first hand why pure law is bad, because after everything Nahobino did for Abdiel, she still betrayed him in the end. Yet he doesn't mention it.
@@christopherbravo1813 >she did warn him that he would still be judged. Then she should have not even dealt with him at all. And if I recall she said that after everything Naho did. > if the MC hadn't fused with Aogami, he would have gotten the DSP and been perfectly fine. Well.. he had to to not...die.
@@Idasukimase your logic makes no sense. Abdiel had a duty to fulfill, and that duty includes smiting false gods like the MC. and Dazai survived without powers, the MC could have too.
@@christopherbravo1813 >Abdiel had a duty to fulfill, and that duty includes smiting false gods like the MC. So then why use his power at all to fight her battles? It's pretty hypocritical to use something that's forbidden for your own purposes and then throw it away because it's forbidden. And she's even more hypocritical because she became a Nahobino herself. I'd be fine if she refused your help and MC just helped her cause indirectly because his friends were in danger but actively using him and then saying " NAHOBINOS ARE FORBIDDEN" is total bull. >Dazai survived without powers, the MC could have too. He survived because an angel kidnapped him. The demons were literally about to rip MC apart if he didn't fuse with Aogami. In fact, wasn't that literally the first words Aogami said to him? "Take my hand if you want to live."
To be fair the thing about Ichiro is that he isn’t real an idealist like other Law reps, he’s more like the SMT 1 Law Hero in that he very much acts on his emotions rather than his logic. He admires Abdiel for being a badass angel girlboss with confidence first and bringing order to Tokyo second because as far as he’s concerned the former leads to the latter anyway. Like, other than Tsukuyomi’s reveals the only other thing on Ichiros mind is whether or not Abdiel is okay after getting dunked on so hard. I feel like he would ignore why Abdiel tried to kill you and more so that it was just bad that it happened at all
Abdiel attack pattern without taunt: only attack Nahobino and occassionally light attack on the whole team. Her most devastating attack is Myriad Slashes followed by agidyne. However, this attack is low accuracy and lowering her accuracy will almost always results to a miss.
Honestly, I have complaints about how they used these weird auto-tune demonic voices on the demons. Your boy Shido/Flynn does Odin as VA. You can't really hear it, but can if you focus on it. There's like 3 different voices being spoken at once, only Abdiel has a crisp voice without this demonic tune behind it.
I really hated this moment because at first abdiel came off as a bit more moderate for the law Alignment but even if your going full law, she decides to kill her greatest ally.
I like more the way how their voices were handled in SMT IV. They were normal enough in most of them, but had a distinct sound which made you feel you were really in front of a supernatural being (I especially like those of Merkahba and Lucifer).
So, the reason I tried, but failed to get into SMT while I loved Persona, b is that I really can't feel comfortable with the theme of an Evil YHVH. (I know, just a game, I'm not saying the game itslef is evil or anything like that, Just I personaly feel uncomfortable) But my point is, I've seen some scenes from random points of the game and from the finale, and has it been recealed YHVH had been planning for this games protag to be the next god and reset the world? Or was just mu random impression from the few scenes I saw?
Yhvh is dead he didn't plan for his successor but he is known for erasing humanity over and over again until he is satisfied throughout the series so yes yhvh in smt is painted as a selfish ruler who thinks of his creations as toys for him to play with
Ngl i also feel uncomfortable, but i really like these games so i can pass through (I mean i never saw a hinduist for example pissed off with the game, so why i should lol) Btw i would like a redemption for YHVH in the future If they ever do it, or at least create a new God that is actually good since the original one is dead
Ngl i also feel uncomfortable, but i really like these games so i can pass through (I mean i never saw a hinduist for example pissed off with the game, so why i should lol) Btw i would like a redemption for YHVH in the future If they ever do it, or at least create a new God that is actually good since the original one is dead
I do not like Abdiel. I generally don’t like alignment characters that are so far up their own ass about their view point. Keep that “GlOrY tO cHaOs” or “We mUsT pRoTeCt gOd’S oRdEr” shit away from me!
Voice actors aren't the problem, the horrifically over done auto tune is If they had just toned it down a bit but added just enough to give them a supernatural tinge it would have been a lot better They literally did it fantastic in IV
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I love the idea that the other Gods are just sitting there watching Abdiel get absolutely washed by Nahobino.
Well, they don’t agree with her world views.
Zeus: Hey Odin, can you pass the popcorn?
Vasuki: I wish Shiva could see this!
I mean, she did ask them to witness her. Zeus seems the most likely to have popcorn on him.
For real though they don't want the smoke with Nahobino and his demon army he even beated up Demifiend.
the mental image of Nahobino's party hiding behind the demon on a toilet is rather hilarious
Wonder how many times he roared just to tell Abdiel he’s trying to take a crap but instead she kept attacking him because she was provoked by the roar? XD
All the other Gods watching Abdiel eat her own words by getting baited by a demon on a toilet and poked by a child.
Zeus: Funniest shit I have seen today!
If that’s the case, what about Vasuki?
Feels like something Zeus would say X)
Abdiel is a nice angel in her own way, she's the only one who's looking after humanity when most other gods just went after personal power
so basically Mastema
I mean when Bethel was only held together under the threat of God doing worse to them, they have no reason to be loyal or see it as anything more than knife at their throat.
These same angels were the ones who told the Japaneee Gods not to interfere when the Conception happened 18 years ago, and Da’at was the result of God’s hubris.
Nerd
Maybe not. When you met her at the second da‘at, she obviously just killed some students who had knowledge of Baal or other ancient gods. And I'm pretty sure she doesn't care much about the 10 million residents of Tokyo that is about to disappear.
@@adennielsen5371 But at the end of the fight "a new world order" was said. This is predictive programming. SMT constantly antigonises God. "Illumine the horizon" obvious reference to satan and how he "gave" Eve the fruit of knowledge as light represents knowledge.
Nahobini: Exists
Abdiel: *Immediately starts inhaling gallons of copium*
Abdiel's big scene.
In which all the other deities just trash her in and out.
Khonsu roasted her so hard she returned to YHVH
And Nahobino just looking at Khonsu like "why are you dragging me into this?"
I felt sad for her
When she looses it's like her faith being tested and the fact that she din't tried to commit genocide or attacked Ichiro when he came for her aleardy shows how Abdiel is probably the nicest angel in these series
Mastema...
Satan...
Smt ii Gabriel
Speaking as a Law player, Abdiel as a dangerous zealot who tries to weaponize and enforce her own willful ignorance on others. She realizes empathy is a virtuous trait to have, but she has no idea how to use it herself. If Tsukiyomi didn't kill her, I would have had to put her down myself
@@dewo277e9 Mastema is pretty selfish, he mainly aligns with Law cause he thinks he can ascend to a better form and he pussys out in New Law and Neutral, and he's pretty twisted in IV
And even if Satan felt bad about it too late, he still commited/attempted global genocide
@@asuratakehaya6884 she's precious 🥺
Wish we could've seen more of this United Nations of gods, or at least see the power struggle of having more than one Nanobino.
if you think about it, Dazai is seeing first hand why pure law is bad, because after everything Nahobino did for Abdiel, she still betrayed him in the end. Yet he doesn't mention it.
she did warn him that he would still be judged. and if the MC hadn't fused with Aogami, he would have gotten the DSP and been perfectly fine.
@@christopherbravo1813
>she did warn him that he would still be judged.
Then she should have not even dealt with him at all. And if I recall she said that after everything Naho did.
> if the MC hadn't fused with Aogami, he would have gotten the DSP and been perfectly fine.
Well.. he had to to not...die.
@@Idasukimase your logic makes no sense. Abdiel had a duty to fulfill, and that duty includes smiting false gods like the MC. and Dazai survived without powers, the MC could have too.
@@christopherbravo1813
>Abdiel had a duty to fulfill, and that duty includes smiting false gods like the MC.
So then why use his power at all to fight her battles? It's pretty hypocritical to use something that's forbidden for your own purposes and then throw it away because it's forbidden. And she's even more hypocritical because she became a Nahobino herself. I'd be fine if she refused your help and MC just helped her cause indirectly because his friends were in danger but actively using him and then saying " NAHOBINOS ARE FORBIDDEN" is total bull.
>Dazai survived without powers, the MC could have too.
He survived because an angel kidnapped him. The demons were literally about to rip MC apart if he didn't fuse with Aogami. In fact, wasn't that literally the first words Aogami said to him? "Take my hand if you want to live."
To be fair the thing about Ichiro is that he isn’t real an idealist like other Law reps, he’s more like the SMT 1 Law Hero in that he very much acts on his emotions rather than his logic. He admires Abdiel for being a badass angel girlboss with confidence first and bringing order to Tokyo second because as far as he’s concerned the former leads to the latter anyway. Like, other than Tsukuyomi’s reveals the only other thing on Ichiros mind is whether or not Abdiel is okay after getting dunked on so hard. I feel like he would ignore why Abdiel tried to kill you and more so that it was just bad that it happened at all
I like how Khonsu is being a smartass
Abdiel attack pattern without taunt: only attack Nahobino and occassionally light attack on the whole team. Her most devastating attack is Myriad Slashes followed by agidyne. However, this attack is low accuracy and lowering her accuracy will almost always results to a miss.
I loved that because I always ended up using Tetrakarn with Mou Shuvuu and ending her turns quickly
When i beat her, my tactic was to always get an extra half press turn with all the other demons and guard nahobino.
2:23 Alice attack timed nicely with the music
I fucking love when that happens
Alice: I'm the one who says when the music startes around here!
Abdiel had me down bad
Then that thing she does near the end happens
If you dont dig her at her Fallen, then you dont deserve her at her Angel smh
Then you were down horrendous.
Hear me out
Zeus be like: "Yo, fuck you guys. I'm out"
"screw you guys i'm going home"
"The creator can never be defeated."
One second later
"oh shit"
I wish the the autotune was toned down for demons
“The Creator can never be defeated.”
The past three games: *;)*
only in apocalypse and in the second game, in the others we do not face it
I mean you defeat kagutsuchi he is technically a bit of yhvh
@@pablothecoffeelover2551 an avatar of sorts, I think, I may need to replay old games to remember the lore properly tho
@@Kubapajonczek bit still yhvh
@@dewo277e9in vanilla SMT IV DLC Flynn and Co. defeat Ancient of Days
That first Die for Me timed well with the music 👌
Kinda liked Odin’s va in apocalypse a little more
And Innana too. She went from mommy to demonic chicken
Now he's voiced by Flynn funnily.
At least Colonel Roy Max Lucifer from SMT 3 HD got to stay here.
Honestly, I have complaints about how they used these weird auto-tune demonic voices on the demons. Your boy Shido/Flynn does Odin as VA. You can't really hear it, but can if you focus on it. There's like 3 different voices being spoken at once, only Abdiel has a crisp voice without this demonic tune behind it.
@@BuffMaister Demeter and Krishna were also the same, they had the most human voices.
@@JackFrostAegirine grandpa Max returns?! Lol
Wow after all that, I feel really bad for her, she was only doing what she felt was right.
God in this game doesnt seem as evil as the other games. I also think abdiel is an interesting law rep
1:08 This is trying to be serious but I thought it was hilarious
12:25
Koshimizu & Nahobino: *put on their black sunglasses*
What if you
Wanted to smite down the nahobino
But ALICE said
“Die for me” 🫵🏻👩🏼
First greeting to your enemy: Die for me ~
I really hated this moment because at first abdiel came off as a bit more moderate for the law Alignment but even if your going full law, she decides to kill her greatest ally.
Everybody is gangsta until Nahobino walked in
I dont like that voiced demons have that distorted voice effect, they would be more intimidating if they just talk normal
I like more the way how their voices were handled in SMT IV. They were normal enough in most of them, but had a distinct sound which made you feel you were really in front of a supernatural being (I especially like those of Merkahba and Lucifer).
Some of them like Nuwa or Abdiel are completely fine, but others like Ishtar or Odin are very hard to take seriously
Khonsu deserves a gold medal in instigating
Alph, Flynn, Hideto, and Akira/Nanashi :so who wants to tell her
Who knew this would happen
I planned my whole fight against Abdiel to kill her with Profaned Land.
Does that mean I'm a bad guy ? :)
Abdiel: You will never be able to defeat me.
Nahobino: *Ha Ha Profaned Land go brr*
Abdiel🥵🥵🥵
God I felt so good finally being able to take it to this jerk.
Lawful copium
why no holy music for Abdiel?
Lol khonsu instigated the fight
1:22
I’ll fight all of you sons of bitches.
Not going to lie… Alice, Idun and belphegor make a pretty good harem
especially belphegor
Belphegor of all demons ?
Gawd damn
how high max level in this game?
99
@@BuffMaister hopefully the lvl cap will get a dlc to fix that
@@modeus9592 no matter how much high your level is you have to remember smt dmg is beyond 999 dmg
Make it into a movie and u get boom 10M views and 10M likes
So, the reason I tried, but failed to get into SMT while I loved Persona, b is that I really can't feel comfortable with the theme of an Evil YHVH. (I know, just a game, I'm not saying the game itslef is evil or anything like that, Just I personaly feel uncomfortable)
But my point is, I've seen some scenes from random points of the game and from the finale, and has it been recealed YHVH had been planning for this games protag to be the next god and reset the world? Or was just mu random impression from the few scenes I saw?
Yhvh is dead he didn't plan for his successor but he is known for erasing humanity over and over again until he is satisfied throughout the series so yes yhvh in smt is painted as a selfish ruler who thinks of his creations as toys for him to play with
@@kresnik694 thanks for the explanation!
Ngl i also feel uncomfortable, but i really like these games so i can pass through (I mean i never saw a hinduist for example pissed off with the game, so why i should lol)
Btw i would like a redemption for YHVH in the future If they ever do it, or at least create a new God that is actually good since the original one is dead
Ngl i also feel uncomfortable, but i really like these games so i can pass through (I mean i never saw a hinduist for example pissed off with the game, so why i should lol)
Btw i would like a redemption for YHVH in the future If they ever do it, or at least create a new God that is actually good since the original one is dead
@@onewingedren2228 first devil survivor game yhvh is a little less evil than the rest law route is actually one of the good endings
8:30 why the jp dub is better
There's always that one guy....
Teh JaPaNeSe DuB iz BeTtER
@@Soulkey_sbrNahobino generally just sounds much more badass in JP than English.
I do not like Abdiel. I generally don’t like alignment characters that are so far up their own ass about their view point. Keep that “GlOrY tO cHaOs” or “We mUsT pRoTeCt gOd’S oRdEr” shit away from me!
Man, they really screwed the pooch on the english voice actors, huh?
Voice actors aren't the problem, the horrifically over done auto tune is
If they had just toned it down a bit but added just enough to give them a supernatural tinge it would have been a lot better
They literally did it fantastic in IV
@@enigmaticheart666 yeah, Odin got screwed over by this the most
@@seraphinw1 I think Ishtar is a bit worse. Both are pretty goofy, but she’s the worst
Interesting dialogues but not the gameplay
ok
bait
@Cielo Mist I’m not. Also the graphics are terrible
@@shadowx2652 Amen.
@@christopherbravo1813 specifically what?
*C O R R U P T I O N*