To find out more about George Storrs and the Fox Sisters visit our website to read our extended article. www.lineagejourney.com/episodes-season-2/the-birth-of-spiritualism-and-the-state-of-the-dead/
Although the Fox sisters are dead and are still in the grave, today we see their fruits in Hollywood, Nollywood and others. May we remain faithful to the Bible and Jesus as our Pioneers. Thanks a lot LINEAGE, be blessed
I've noticed before that satan likes to create counterfeits and confusion as to draw the attention off of God's road and onto his own. God ALWAYS brings the light back however- our Lord always wins and I'm thankful for that! Blessings to all :)
@@robertj4157 many even in funerals pastors, leaders, members attempt to talk to the dead and receive messages that everything is alright that life is good in heaven etc. The prayer for foresight is important though we may not now see.
Such a important topic to understand clearly from studying the word of God as its often been misunderstood about the state of the dead & hell fire. Recently studied this as i too had a wrong idea about the topic.
I grew up in a Spiritualist home and started reading the Bible on my own at 16. Three-quarters of the way through it I realized I hadn't found the things I was being taught and assumed they weren't in the other quarter. (They weren't.) I searched for a church which taught from the Bible alone, without added man-made traditions. I became a Seventh-day Adventist Christian at age 22 because SDA beliefs are backed by the Bible. Learning about the state of the dead made a big difference in my life, as Spiritualism is rooted in the belief that the dead guide the living. I'm so thankful I know Jesus now.
It would be good to mention that George Storrs, though he made a significant impact on the Adventist movement, is also a very important link between Millerites and Bible Students. Later in his life he was a friend of young Charles T. Russell, and his theology greatly impacted Russels'. But Storrs' beliefs on the state of the dead and his eschatological beliefs significantly evolved (the wrong way) from 1840s to 1870s, when he made friends with Russell. And of course the main Bible Student group is known today as Jehovah's Witnesses. These links are very interesting.
Soul sleep is an impossible conclusion. “We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.” - 2 Corinthians 5:8 (NKJV) It doesn't get any plainer than that but when people are bent on promoting an idea there is no stopping them. I hasten to add that very often soul sleep goes hand in hand with justification by works and that is why Calvin opposed it in his essay psycopanachia, Soul Sleep.
*New York-A Symbol of Work in the World*- Those who bear the burden of the work in Greater New York should have the help of the best workers that can be secured *Here let a center for God's work be made, and let all that is done be a symbol of the work the Lord desires to see done in the world*.... -Ellen White 1902
The bible can be interpreted in opposing ways. There is 'soul sleep' which is the teaching that we all sleep till the second coming. But 1 Samuel 28.15 indicates that is not so. Then we have 'to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord' people, which is a more popular concept. This is backed up by many who have had NDEs and visited with their deceased relatives.
@@Wonderworld455 /// I know I can't because I am not psychic. But thousands who have had an NDE will tell you that they have .If your info comes from the bible, it is bound to be wrong.
First God is ..Holy then Righteous then Love. God is a consuming Fire, don't forget that. Many are called but few are chosen Matt 22:14 "means All People's are called to salvation but not all who received Christ will enter Paradise. Only the chosen ones who truly deny themselves & produce the fruit of the spirit & live in Spirit & truth, those Jesus chooses. A remnant shall be saved. 1 Pet 1:17 “And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear;” - 1Pet 1:17 (NKJV)
TRACT Who has found IN the Bible that praying to God has to be done with closed eyes? Who has found IN the Gods Word that praying to the Creator has to be done with bowed head? Who can show IN the Holy Scripture that sending up a message to the Almighty should be done with fingers entwined? If it is not IN the Bible, where does it come from? If it is not IN the Bible, is it not time to stop it immediately? If no Bible gives mankind those formalities is it not time to follow the Biblical instructions?
I know this is not a theological study per se, but you seem to have conflated or not clearly delineated the two issues about the state of the dead. The first is Soul Sleep: That all the dead remain unconscious until they are resurrected in the Last Days and the second is the fire of God annihilating the wicked after their resurrection, instead of eternal torture. They do not necessarily have to go together. There could be soul sleep and then eternal hellfire at resurrection as well as there could be souls of the dead being in an aware state now and then still being annihilated at the end.
@@nadiar.7788 You are confusing things. The soul and the person are the same thing. The body becomes dysfunctional and dies but the person/soul can still be aware in another dimension. Though the body is dead, you are still aware and wake up in another realm. You are not your body.
Very superstitious…. Kids, you’re making it way too difficult! We are here to love and care for all life. THATS ALL! Why are you not doing it? Everything non-human is dying and god fearing humans have a lot to do with it.
To find out more about George Storrs and the Fox Sisters visit our website to read our extended article.
www.lineagejourney.com/episodes-season-2/the-birth-of-spiritualism-and-the-state-of-the-dead/
Although the Fox sisters are dead and are still in the grave, today we see their fruits in Hollywood, Nollywood and others. May we remain faithful to the Bible and Jesus as our Pioneers. Thanks a lot LINEAGE, be blessed
I've noticed before that satan likes to create counterfeits and confusion as to draw the attention off of God's road and onto his own. God ALWAYS brings the light back however- our Lord always wins and I'm thankful for that! Blessings to all :)
I don't see any evidence in modern churches.. 🤔 But Spiritualism has alot of evidence from my experience.
Amen of a truth
@@robertj4157 many even in funerals pastors, leaders, members attempt to talk to the dead and receive messages that everything is alright that life is good in heaven etc. The prayer for foresight is important though we may not now see.
Such a important topic to understand clearly from studying the word of God as its often been misunderstood about the state of the dead & hell fire. Recently studied this as i too had a wrong idea about the topic.
I grew up in a Spiritualist home and started reading the Bible on my own at 16. Three-quarters of the way through it I realized I hadn't found the things I was being taught and assumed they weren't in the other quarter. (They weren't.) I searched for a church which taught from the Bible alone, without added man-made traditions. I became a Seventh-day Adventist Christian at age 22 because SDA beliefs are backed by the Bible. Learning about the state of the dead made a big difference in my life, as Spiritualism is rooted in the belief that the dead guide the living. I'm so thankful I know Jesus now.
Melody Kubiak Amen 🙏 my Sister 💯
Beautiful
Bible Flock Box truly.
Amen! This is powerful history.
@0:24...A most sterling truth. I have always believed that.
Amen. This is very helpful. God bless you🙏
It would be good to mention that George Storrs, though he made a significant impact on the Adventist movement, is also a very important link between Millerites and Bible Students. Later in his life he was a friend of young Charles T. Russell, and his theology greatly impacted Russels'. But Storrs' beliefs on the state of the dead and his eschatological beliefs significantly evolved (the wrong way) from 1840s to 1870s, when he made friends with Russell. And of course the main Bible Student group is known today as Jehovah's Witnesses. These links are very interesting.
Very interesting I was wondering what happened to him and why he never became a seventh day Adventist, 🤔
Very interesting information. Love it, god bless!
Estou curtindo.
Soul sleep is an impossible conclusion. “We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.” - 2 Corinthians 5:8 (NKJV) It doesn't get any plainer than that but when people are bent on promoting an idea there is no stopping them. I hasten to add that very often soul sleep goes hand in hand with justification by works and that is why Calvin opposed it in his essay psycopanachia, Soul Sleep.
Such a necessary topic to understand. The dead are dead and know nothing!
Amen
*New York-A Symbol of Work in the World*-
Those who bear the burden of the work in Greater New York should have the help of the best workers that can be secured *Here let a center for God's work be made, and let all that is done be a symbol of the work the Lord desires to see done in the world*....
-Ellen White 1902
The bible can be interpreted in opposing ways. There is 'soul sleep' which is the teaching that we all sleep till the second coming. But 1 Samuel 28.15 indicates that is not so. Then we have 'to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord' people, which is a more popular concept. This is backed up by many who have had NDEs and visited with their deceased relatives.
You cant visit deceased relatives
@@Wonderworld455 /// I know I can't because I am not psychic. But thousands who have had an NDE will tell you that they have .If your info comes from the bible, it is bound to be wrong.
First God is ..Holy then Righteous then Love.
God is a consuming Fire, don't forget that.
Many are called but few are chosen Matt 22:14 "means All People's are called to salvation but not all who received Christ will enter Paradise. Only the chosen ones who truly deny themselves & produce the fruit of the spirit & live in Spirit & truth, those Jesus chooses. A remnant shall be saved.
1 Pet 1:17 “And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear;”
- 1Pet 1:17 (NKJV)
Amen 🙂🙏🏽
TRACT
Who has found IN the Bible that praying to God has to be done with closed eyes?
Who has found IN the Gods Word that praying to the Creator has to be done with bowed head?
Who can show IN the Holy Scripture that sending up a message to the Almighty should be done with fingers entwined?
If it is not IN the Bible, where does it come from?
If it is not IN the Bible, is it not time to stop it immediately?
If no Bible gives mankind those formalities is it not time to follow the Biblical instructions?
I know this is not a theological study per se, but you seem to have conflated or not clearly delineated the two issues about the state of the dead.
The first is Soul Sleep: That all the dead remain unconscious until they are resurrected in the Last Days and the second is the fire of God annihilating the
wicked after their resurrection, instead of eternal torture.
They do not necessarily have to go together.
There could be soul sleep and then eternal hellfire at resurrection as well as there could be souls of the dead being in an aware state now and then still being annihilated at the end.
Please read John 5:25-29 and John 6:38-44, 54.
No immortal soul here; Jesus makes it very plain that it is about RESURRECTION.
@@davidbradberry7637 You are missing a nuance.
An aware disembodied soul is not immortal.
@@thenowchurch6419 How is the soul aware while the person is dead (asleep)? If you're dead, you're dead.
@@nadiar.7788 You are confusing things.
The soul and the person are the same thing.
The body becomes dysfunctional and dies but the person/soul can still be aware in another dimension.
Though the body is dead, you are still aware and wake up in another realm.
You are not your body.
Making sounds with their knuckles. Baloney. Try it for yourself.
You dont immediately go to heaven
Very superstitious…. Kids, you’re making it way too difficult! We are here to love and care for all life. THATS ALL! Why are you not doing it? Everything non-human is dying and god fearing humans have a lot to do with it.
The birth of spiritualism has to have been born in the garden of Eden for it was there the serpent stated ye shall not surely die and man believed.