Sly 3 Alpha - Venice 1st Mission(Beta Octavio, guards and more)

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  • From the Sly 3 Jampack Holiday 2005 demo disc. Can be accessed via memory editing. This demo was build 6 months before the game's release.
    No, i did not add the text to speech voices. That's what Sucker Punch used before they got voice actors.
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  • @Slysonic
    @Slysonic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    You mean to tell me there is a mission where you have to find Murray....
    At pizza joints.
    Technology was amazing in 2005.

    • @armorx9638
      @armorx9638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nut Shack234 Because using technology to find Murray at pizza joints in Venice, who is known to love fast food. It sounds incredibly dumb and lame. It would have made a good joke in the game, but it would also insult Bentley's character as a genious.

    • @armorx9638
      @armorx9638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nut Shack234 That I do not understand, probably not enough time or last minute changes.

  • @mann-nova9392
    @mann-nova9392 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This entire mission is basically just a shitpost

  • @Slysonic
    @Slysonic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    "Murray, we need your help here!"
    "No, I'm not going to help you with violence"
    *walks away*
    Top 10 ways to get rejected in 10 seconds.

    • @Atteflomid
      @Atteflomid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Couldn't stop laughing

    • @jaborsey_joseph
      @jaborsey_joseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *XD*

    • @MisterJohnDoe
      @MisterJohnDoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This made me laugh in a very stupid way.

    • @koikarppa
      @koikarppa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Top 10 anime betrayals

    • @brandondiaz2925
      @brandondiaz2925 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's harsh yo

  • @oergpoerg4658
    @oergpoerg4658 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This is really interesting, especially because it differs notably from the final game. I reckon the Hazard Room was added late in the development since the waypoint tutorial was present here.

  • @Orion9411
    @Orion9411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's a good thing they redesigned Octavio and the enemies. They're less goofy-looking and more intimidating in the final game.

  • @twoeyedmike3529
    @twoeyedmike3529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i've ALWAYS wanted to see footage of the beta version of Sly 3. Excellent stuff!

  • @theeggen
    @theeggen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Me and the boys rigging a ferris wheel

  • @FraughtPie56499
    @FraughtPie56499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Octavio looks ehhhhhh.........
    His goons look like clowns.......
    Everything looks ehh.........
    Are we going to ignore the fact Murray said "not until till the brown water ran pure"?

  • @jesseking1403
    @jesseking1403 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:09 No, I'm not going to help you with violence.

  • @bodysoap3838
    @bodysoap3838 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    WHERE HAS THIS BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE

  • @swivelskittle3926
    @swivelskittle3926 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is super interesting to see, thanks for doin stuff like this, gives me a better understanding of sucker punches thought process and why they changed things

  • @jaborsey_joseph
    @jaborsey_joseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait, Brown Water....oh no.

  • @kierra3825
    @kierra3825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    lmaoooo octavio looked HORRIBLE. so glad they changed his look 😭😭

  • @frostycane5134
    @frostycane5134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly making the tutorial take place in Venice instead of a the hazard room was a better idea

  • @FlaminBurrito101
    @FlaminBurrito101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can see sly 2 animations. I guess they had the sly 2 engine and kept adding stuff to it. Made me smile a bit just being able to notice.

  • @rikustorm13
    @rikustorm13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh shit, I thought you added Microsoft Sam lmfao

  • @hitkid96fan
    @hitkid96fan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Do you think you can look into the validity of LSoundtracker's video that claims to be the beta version of the Venice fight theme? It doesn't seem to be in this video but somehow that exists.

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's definitely not in the demo disc that i used. It's probably an even older version

  • @evelynfarrell7355
    @evelynfarrell7355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i won’t lie, i preferred the thiefnet from sly 2 over sly 3. i felt like the items in sky 3 were worth less too and it took forever to get coins. i also liked the idea of the trading etc. i also prefer the chickens and cats in this, portrayed as fools it’s funny! the music is cool too. i love sly 3 now too anyways so no hate!

  • @samanthakuznik5007
    @samanthakuznik5007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at the top left. The eyes are different on his logo.

  • @lukesmith720
    @lukesmith720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the only ones who didn't change were the Cane Corso flashlight guards

  • @klaud7311
    @klaud7311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pigeons look like ghosts in mine and the 3D mode is activated and there is some weird 3D stripes effect on the screen.

  • @neilbowes7214
    @neilbowes7214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This actually would've been a better first mission to start off with! It would've helped get your bearings around the first level of the game as well as make more sense lore-wise. It could've had Sly looking around for Murray and failing, so Bentley resorts to sneaking into Police HQ to find info on him instead. This way it could also reference Sly 2 in the way that both games' first levels had two starting missions instead of one.

  • @tiljyredpanda4497
    @tiljyredpanda4497 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    those enemies are different, reminds me of kingdom hearts’s finale mix where the creators revisited the games change the look for some enemies and add stuff to it.

  • @Kumakaree
    @Kumakaree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The text to speech is hilarious omg

  • @otomesakuragi6842
    @otomesakuragi6842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the little guards look funny

  • @PowerPuffBoysZ
    @PowerPuffBoysZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a guide to play this and other alpha missions? I was on the modding discord and someone linked me to a collection of savestates for the alpha missions but I could not get them to load on the jam-pack 2005 holiday iso. Do they require a specific pcsx2 version? Or is there a cheat table guide for memory hacking the missions? Sorry for rambling

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey.
      The savestates will not work with older pcsx2 versions(like 1.4). You might need to use a newer version.
      There will be a mission loader for that demo on the next version of my sly trainer. So playing those missions will be pretty much painless once i get enough time to finish that update.

    • @PowerPuffBoysZ
      @PowerPuffBoysZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GouStoulos according to the pcsx2 wiki there are 2 versions of the demo disc. A mature version and a teen version. Will your trainer be version specific as I can only find the mature version

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PowerPuffBoysZ Any version of the disc will be fine. Dw

    • @ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497
      @ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PowerPuffBoysZ do you have the save states.

    • @PowerPuffBoysZ
      @PowerPuffBoysZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497 unfortunately no it was roughly a year ago i had them and since then the modding discord i got them from seems to have gone offline

  • @MisterJohnDoe
    @MisterJohnDoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The “voice acting” makes this look like one big shitpost/bad fanfiction

  • @Kumakaree
    @Kumakaree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the brown water as in shit water

    • @frostycane5134
      @frostycane5134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe originally Octavio was going to pollute the water with sewage but it was changed to tar

    • @Kumakaree
      @Kumakaree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@frostycane5134 I could see that being the case

  • @Bgraham0189
    @Bgraham0189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AUG 2O 2017

  • @gnisten6
    @gnisten6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    This is so cool. Also the text-to-speech voices are.. ehh.. art at its finest

    • @Slysonic
      @Slysonic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The finest voice acting i have ever seen.

    • @godarik8984
      @godarik8984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gnist it’s so fucking funny lol!!!!

    • @blooper2088
      @blooper2088 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mere fact they used text to speech voices makes me want a mod of these games that simply replaces the voice acting with Text To Speech voices

  • @solidoptimus0129
    @solidoptimus0129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    This feels like a weird dream I'd get.

  • @firsttimehere_
    @firsttimehere_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    These beta videos are dream of Cooperfans

  • @RemoChristian
    @RemoChristian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Murray be like "I don't always focus on the eternal questions of life, but when I do, I eat pizza."

    • @johngabrielsson6740
      @johngabrielsson6740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ikr

    • @j3rmuuu495
      @j3rmuuu495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Remo suaki näkee tääl:)

    • @GamerFavor
      @GamerFavor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remo perkele, anna Sly 4 läpipeluu meille!

    • @moi-ww7rt
      @moi-ww7rt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tee youtubee jotai striimii slysta tai änäristä

  • @SlyCooperReloadCoded
    @SlyCooperReloadCoded 6 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Notice how there are 4 locks on the Ferris Wheel's control box. You smash it open in the final game, but I bet you had to get keys originally.

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah most likely

    • @acebi_ly9246
      @acebi_ly9246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      which is stupid by the way ! It's obviously the same lock then the 100 others in the games. How is this one breakable and not the others ?

    • @j3rmuuu495
      @j3rmuuu495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah

  • @GamePrime99
    @GamePrime99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The unused music is amazing!

    • @Jurmyus
      @Jurmyus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GamePrime it's another version of the used one, and ikr XD

  • @5persondude
    @5persondude 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    6:07 thats a moment that belongs in an old Garry's Mod video lol

  • @OtisLePoOtis
    @OtisLePoOtis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    6:07 is legit some of the funniest shot i have ever seen

    • @frostycane5134
      @frostycane5134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not gonna lie while the deliver and way the line is written is hilarious, having this situation pop up so early in game could have been cool to see. Murray jumps into action in the final game because his friends where in a violent situation
      So to see him say no here is strange

  • @loganpaschedag8829
    @loganpaschedag8829 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It is so funny having text-to-speach voices but no mouth movements 😂

  • @SlyJak2
    @SlyJak2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow, I was actually hoping that Sly would go inside one of the pizza places... heheh This looks awesome, can't wait for more!

  • @jqyhlmnp
    @jqyhlmnp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love videos like this. Finding the broken part of a fantastic final product is always fascinating

  • @rikustorm13
    @rikustorm13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tbh they should've kept the Venice episode to where it has 2 parts, before Carnivale and during Carnivale

  • @DDTPZX
    @DDTPZX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    BROWN water.

    • @Jurmyus
      @Jurmyus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shadow You ikr. What happened to "the blackwater ran pure" XD

  • @Foas
    @Foas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    lmfao some of the lines in this proto

  • @kawaiibrarian
    @kawaiibrarian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This seems like an early tutorial level before the hazard room was created, not to mention, they revamped the entire first mission so that Sly instead goes to the police station to search for Murray's whereabouts.

  • @hazel-ou7ui
    @hazel-ou7ui 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tbh this is way better than the hazard room levels

  • @Brian7965
    @Brian7965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having the jester enemies' hats jingle when you hit them was a nice touch!

  • @SlyCooper1920
    @SlyCooper1920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy crap I even sound like a microsoft!

  • @CoopersCrazy
    @CoopersCrazy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man that Octavio design is terrible
    I wish you'd looked up at the big Octavio sign
    Man they do be jinglin' tho
    Brown water instead of black, huh? One guess why they changed that

  • @orangejuiceearrape
    @orangejuiceearrape 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing this! Do you know if in this demo when you jump and press the square button you can keep your momentum similar to in Sly 2? That's a little detail that I always missed in Sly 3 and Thieves in Time.

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello. No, you cant. It acts just like in the final game.

  • @arttugaming2861
    @arttugaming2861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im big sly fan and this is firts time i see this. Guys lets hope we get sly 5 to ps5

  • @Myself-yf5do
    @Myself-yf5do 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why did they change the cat guards? They were better the way they started out.

  • @Jokuman357
    @Jokuman357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bentley Hawking

  • @thatisalongtitle3962
    @thatisalongtitle3962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Voice today: ok
    Voice before : Masterpiece

  • @brofistbro
    @brofistbro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know why, but I end up loving beta content as much as the final product. So much respect for beta.

  • @hellothere5291
    @hellothere5291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    :DDD just :DDD im just sayibg that lol

  • @artgurusauce
    @artgurusauce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something about the text-to-speech just... **Chef's kiss** Perfection~

  • @ajaakola2
    @ajaakola2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this looks better than most of the steam games people make thesedays lol

  • @samushunter242
    @samushunter242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting how turnbuckle launch is still in the game
    Does it work still ?

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeap

    • @samushunter242
      @samushunter242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have the time you should see what leftover abilities work and which ones don’t
      You know if you have time

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually am doing it right now. I already had checked Sly's powerups but not for Murray and Bentley. Now that i have found the required addresses i am checking what is there.
      Spoilers, it's mostly Sly 2 stuff. There are some Sly 3 stuff like the grapple cam.

    • @samushunter242
      @samushunter242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder if the mega jump gadget from mega jump job is still working

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does! Gonna upload a short video showcasing all of them

  • @SmallPopcorn01
    @SmallPopcorn01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting how part of the beta intro music became the danger music for that world

  • @jaborsey_joseph
    @jaborsey_joseph หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lotta cut content for a pretty decent entry in the franchise.

  • @brandondiaz2925
    @brandondiaz2925 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dude narrating is not so bad he's doing a great job

  • @Gnomiumm
    @Gnomiumm ปีที่แล้ว

    "No, I'm not going to help you with violence"

  • @WhosMediic
    @WhosMediic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love theese videos!..but daim it hurts to watch u fight XD

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!
      Yeah i know... Probably because this was my first time recording with the pcsx2 built in tool. Which slows the game down to 30-40% speed. I eventually got used to it, and tuned it for better quality(again, in this particular recording, it is terrible)

    • @WhosMediic
      @WhosMediic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GouStoulos Its so satisfying to see how the game was in the earlier stage ;)

  • @ethius7403
    @ethius7403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sly narrated by moonman

  • @kaitoshion6982
    @kaitoshion6982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must say, I can see why the Hazard Room was criticized. This felt better, well, when revised.

  • @bradythomas234
    @bradythomas234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how it's the same text to speech voice from the old dekuscrubby luigi sucks videos

  • @cashbrady4074
    @cashbrady4074 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like how they had some stuff in check but removed stuff and changed missions

  • @the_one_and_only-vn7or
    @the_one_and_only-vn7or 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont know if its just me but the voices make slys face look very derpy

  • @crashharty
    @crashharty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Octavio was probably going to be a jester type character

  • @ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497
    @ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do I find this version of the game with the old Octavio

  • @Discotheque2002
    @Discotheque2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is terrible lol but really cool to see the progress

  • @PowerPuffBoysZ
    @PowerPuffBoysZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you still working on your trainer to play alpha missions?

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes. slowly but surely

    • @PowerPuffBoysZ
      @PowerPuffBoysZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GouStoulos where, if anywhere, can i follow you? the old sly modding discord isnt around anymore

  • @lopesmorrenofim
    @lopesmorrenofim 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did you find this

    • @GouStoulos
      @GouStoulos  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      By "poking the demo with a stick". The missions are in there, but they are not accessible without memory hacking.

  • @loganpaschedag8829
    @loganpaschedag8829 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TBH this level felt like episode 1 from sly 2 instead of Paris. It's Venice Italy 🇮🇹

  • @HiHi-mc2wv
    @HiHi-mc2wv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is fudging fake

    • @kobrakai007
      @kobrakai007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is this fake?