This is my first time watching these guys. Seems like a great show and will definitely be tuning in going forward. This was a TRUE sports debate and I enjoyed every second.
Same! All 3 made really good points. Gonna start checking in to see their takes more frequently. I didn’t know Emmanuel Acho was on a show. I have always appreciated his thoughts on sports
Considering what Kelly did with the academic restrictions Notre Dame has, it's pretty remarkable. Now he goes to a Power 5 that doesn't have those hangups and will be able to recruit from a larger pool, Kelly might create a beast at LSU.
No “might” He has a lot of hungry in state players with talent that want to go to LSU alone plus there is a big pool of talent in JUCO. LSU won’t deny him taking chances on pure talent with light issues
Can someone please explain to me what makes Brian Kelly so great? Yea he made a championship game but they got smoked and that was the end so please someone tell me why is this the “GUY”
@@michaelstrickland3568 then you have to look at the video and re read our posts. OR THINK OF IT THIS WAY. Derrick Henry go hard playing for the Titans what if he played for the Ravens.
I think they should play the bowl game. It’s bad for your team. Your team just lost there coach out of the blue and now are expected to play there hearts out for a intern coach? But the team the coach is hired to already fired there coach. The only factor besides having a coach (intern coaches) is recruiting. The NCAA outlaws stupid stuff but not ruining another school season and bowl game by stealing there coach.
@@peytoncofer players shouldn’t be playing their hearts out for their coach they should be doing it for themselves and their future. The coach is just there for extra motivation
I just want to commend both of you gentlemen and Joe Klatt as well. You provide some of the most entertaining, articulate and relatable sports commentary. Not yelling and hollering and crazy antics but real insightful analysis. This was one of my favorite clips because this delved deep into social commentary. Thank you for this and keep up the continued excellence.
Plus I’ve seen kids sit out bowl games for the money to right ? Going to go to the nfl so they sit out the year or the last couple games or the bowl game. But the coach can’t leave at the end to make 100 mil ??! Please
@@valthomas9786 so when was the right time ? After all the good recruits committed to another school because lsu was without a head coach ? Then go and be behind the 8ball and set himself back
Kelly was offered the ND with the clear goal of winning a Natty. He had more than a decade to build his program, but failed to meet the goal and had vacated wins along the way. Look at his record against Alabama, Cinn, and UGA: 0-5. He was headed for 0-6 if meeting one of them again in the playoffs.
As a former D1 athlete, I still remember almost committing to an Ivy League school because of extensive conversations I had with their assistant coach who led recruiting efforts. Fortunately I chose to go elsewhere. The next year he was gone. Head coaching job at an ACC school. I get it. He made a decision for his family and career. But had I gone there to play for him, I too, like Acho, would have had a hard time wrestling with that reality.
Perspective smersmective. They know coaches make business decisions all the time. That’s why you go to the SCHOOL you want, not the coach you want. On your visits, meet all the players. If you fit in their locker room and you love the school, go. Never commit to a coach. All recruits know that but some have terrible guidance. I’ve seen it all.
Just because you works, together doesn't always mean you can click together. And by the way, everyone isn't for sale. what profits a man to gain the world and lose his soul ( mind, intellect, character, peace, respect) . Money can't by anything but temporary Gifts and life style. Money can by a house, but it takes more than money to make it a home.
so no gripe about how Lincoln left after saying he was staying...i think the media just cant fathom someone left their sacred ND for LSU...and OU is being gutted by the other coaches decision
Acho has a heart. Maybe he's "idealistic" but without heart you're just a machine. Press the $ button and you will not be able to say "no" no matter how hard you try.
My counter argument to Klatt would be that Kelly has done this very same thing at EVERY program he’s been at (sneaking out the door). It’s the HOW. That is why some feel that Kelly is a snake in the grass.
Listen, this stuff is bound to, has always, and will always happen with coaches playing musical chairs like their going out of style! But at least Lincoln Riley showed truer (not much, but an improvement) character and decency in his addressing of the coaching move with his players! What Brian Kelly did was pure Bush League to his kids, yanking the rug right out from under them! Sad when u make a promise to your recruits' parents that u will take care of them in every way away from home and then pull even a 360 wool over their eyes (the parents)! Kelly then has the audacity in an apology attempt to say to his kids "I'm sorry it went this way you having to find out from other sources besides and before me"! Seriously he'd have been better off taking the high road and not even tried to apologize because it made him sound more ludicrous! Shame on you Brian Kelly but at the same time you showed the entire world your true stripes! Money and ego trump all in your case - callously tweeting instead of getting your team together personally to inform - what an utter disgrace
I am an LSU fan but as just a general fan I can definitely agree with this.....the timing is all jacked up and I don't like it either....The rules do need to be changed. Great argument fellas
Early signing day is the sole reason for the TIMING of Kelly's decision. Kelly knows that Scott Woodward had to announce a coach now, because of the Dec 15th ESD. That's it. That's the reason. And it's not Kelly, nor Woodward's fault. I disagree that Kelly is merely "chasing the money". Kelly knows that he can't win a NC with the talent Notre Dame gets. LSU has that talent and LSU is committed to athletic excellence across the board, as evidenced by all the recent coaching hires - this is what Kelly means when he says alignment. At this point in time, there is nothing holding back a head football coach from winning a NC at LSU - THAT is why Kelly accepted the job. If Kelly was "chasing the money", he would have let Notre Dame counter.
Brian Kelly brought ND back from the dead and made them relevant again and was only paying him 2.7M a year lol let’s be honest ND looks at their job as the greatest thing since sliced bread and you should be happy just to call yourself the coach of notre dame football their ego wouldn’t allow them to pay a coach the kind of money LSU paid him so there was no reason to have ND counter because they wasn’t going to counter anywhere in that neighborhood not even the same zip code
I don't think it's just the money. I'm fairly confident LSU waved that same nine-figure check in front of Lincoln Riley and Jimbo Fisher, but Lincoln probably saw a significantly easier job in LA than what he'd get in BR and Jimbo probably felt LSU was exponentially more pressure for what was essentially a lateral move.
I agree 100% with Klatt. These decisions were about money… a lot of it, pure and simple. Kelly and Riley were the head football coaches at Oklahoma and Notre Dame! Last time I checked these are two of the top 10 programs in the country. OU and ND have no restrictions on recruiting or TV exposure or anything for that matter. They recruit nation-wide and are always in the conversation for big time bowls and the CFP. We’re not talking about a very solid, but regional program like a Wisconsin… or a program with limited exposure and backing like a Cincinnati. Peeps are acting like poor Brian Kelly couldn’t win the big one at ND because he don’t have the tools to do so…. Seriously?! The Irish have their own TV network in NBC. And Riley…? The Sooners are in the playoff picture every season with Heisman winning QBs. Explain to me how coaching at USC or LSU is going to dramatically improve either’ s ability to compete on the big stage. Because as a college football fan, I’m not buying it.
Coaches get cut mid season everyday b I must be too attached to money cause I see nothing wrong with this move 😂 it was definitely Money Play 💯 Acho get out ya feelings big Dawg....
No Notre Dame fan is broken-hearted that Brian Kelly left. Marcus Freeman is going to do well there. And not give off that odor that always seemed to follow Kelly around. Freeman was THE recruiter at ND. Can't imagine Kelly being good at that. All the other coaches stayed at ND. No one followed Kelly. That says something. I think ND's stock just went up.
Notre Dame fan, Good bye, Thanks for getting the program back on course. Now let's go get that Coach to get next, let Kelly take his own heat with him.
Klatt is right. And for the people blaming the coaches for leaving should blame the schools more. USC fired Helton a few games into the season. But I just believe people are salty due to the money.
Acho your issue is with the lack of communication with the team and organization. Let the players and staff know you will be moving on. Timing wise it makes sense because those are the constraints now with early signing. Mainly the issue isn't with the idea of him leaving it's with how he chose to leave. Just be a stand-up guy about it. If I am developing young men, then in my eyes, that includes showing them more than the field. But how to rightly maneuver the world. These kids generally do buy in to the BS of the coach for the school then the coach leaves. What needs to happen ultimately to make this seem less damaging is players getting a better understanding of the business side of college football. There are two hit commodities, player and coach. So as these coaches go to recruit the players they are also being scouted to go somewhere else. Be loyal to the men on the field with you while you are there and be loyal to your success.
If we know how the college sports works then just be honest then and say “I can leave at any moment but I still want you to come to Notre Dame or any other college”
He got them to the playoffs through good player development. I know these guys don’t follow ND recruiting but I do. And I can tell you right now, Kelly didn’t put the effort into getting elite recruits. I get ND can’t get every 5 star or high 4 star. But the ones they do have a chance at he doesn’t put the effort in.
If Kelly rejects the job at LSU and waited, LSU would have chosen someone else. Also coaching is a job. If you have an opportunity to make more money and a better life you don’t go up to your current boss and tell them I plan on leaving when a better opportunity arises.
Amen joel Klatt it's all about them Benjamin's not about the program or players self hearted dude can't say he loves the players or program when dollar signs make a decision. To prove that he leaves before the end of the season when irish still hae a chance he basically proving he thinks they don't
This is business it's the business of college football Brian Kelly think the first coach to bail like that and he's clearly not going to be the last how come Lincoln Riley getting the criticism to for up in leave OU
So they think a coach that wants to leave their current job for what they believe is a better situation is going to wait until after National signing day. This would set them back in their new position. This situation will happen again unless college football is structured so coaches have time to change schools and have time to get prepared for National signing day. These guys seem to be more interested in personalities and their homer attitude toward a particular team.
It’s not that he left. It’s how he left that’s the issue. Ghosting people at ND? Letting his team find out on social media? That’s the classless part. Leaving isn’t classless. He made a smart business decision.
The reason BK didn’t win at ND and now at LSU was because he keeps getting out coached. He’s a great recruiter not a great coach. That Ole Miss game a couple days ago. That’s on him.
Klatt, it's not "none". There's one coach who has been offered the $$$ and the NFL has called but he stayed. And you have been around and spoken to him many times. You're forgetting Kirk Ferentz. (Yeah, the money was never 9 figures, but it was high at the time.)
I may be "for sale", but there are things that really matter, as well. I wouldn't change my present.occupational position just because there is more money involved. This dude makes it sound like if you get more money, or a lot of money, you will move. Not so. In fact, in that context I'm not for sale.
Klatt's insistence that money is the primary motivating factor in every person's career decisions is either remarkably naive or darkly cynical. Perhaps both. I've passed up higher paying jobs on a couple occasions because I didn't prefer the city or other factors. And I didn't feel any more the loser for it. The real loser is the poor soul who overvalues the importance of money or who uses it as the penultimate measure of a successful career.
That sounds good. And to your point ain't like he's not going to be rich either way. BUT, He still does have the chance to build something special at LSU.
as a nd fan I don't know if Kelly is it. But maybe now there's just no way for nd to be national champs. Maybe nd just cant with the academic standards. I just think it was more Kelly being a good coach not great as to why they couldn't be national champs
Man y’all are talking about Brian Kelly as if he’s poor, that man doesn’t need any money, he already has money, that man wants to win a championship! Y’all are talking about this man as if he’s some poor college kids trying to get to the pros pre-maturely as a sophomore! C’mon
Why can't Marcellus and Klatt hear Acho's point. IT. IS. ABOUT. CHARACTER. You can say eveyrone does it. Doesn't mean it isn't a low thing to do to promise yourself to your athletes and then abandon them. Character matters people. 100 million dollars or no. Character matters. And I thought Marcellus was the conservative?
Joel Klatt is wrong about not trusting coaches. Billy Napier has done everything right in his move to Florida. There are coaches like that. They just don't get all of the play. It's ones who sell their soul for more money that get all the publicity.
Two minutes and 39 seconds you mention Nick Saban I believe Brian Kelly had a 12 and a record in 2013 with the Notre Dame fighting Irish Notre Dame was number one Alabama was number two Notre Dame got deep and you think LSU is going to beat Alabama with Nick Saban come on Marcus Wiley think about it if he could not beat Notre Dame being ranked number one what makes you think he’s going to be Alabama with LSU thinking about it
Listen to Out of Character: sprtspod.fox/OOC
This is my first time watching these guys. Seems like a great show and will definitely be tuning in going forward. This was a TRUE sports debate and I enjoyed every second.
Same! All 3 made really good points. Gonna start checking in to see their takes more frequently. I didn’t know Emmanuel Acho was on a show. I have always appreciated his thoughts on sports
This is a great show
Klatt is excellent. Would love to see him on the show more often. This is by far the best sports related show.
Klatt speaking facts
Dude was dropping bombs.
As usual, lol
He typically does
A debate show that actually talks about things other than the Lakers and Cowboys 😮😮😮🔥
Yep its why I watch this show
100% agree, love watching their debates
Yeah undisputed falling off
Blame the people who watch the shows, the reason those shows continue to talk about those things is because it’s guaranteed viewing
… And Michael Jordan and Manny Pacquicio
Klatt as usual preaching
Considering what Kelly did with the academic restrictions Notre Dame has, it's pretty remarkable. Now he goes to a Power 5 that doesn't have those hangups and will be able to recruit from a larger pool, Kelly might create a beast at LSU.
No “might” He has a lot of hungry in state players with talent that want to go to LSU alone plus there is a big pool of talent in JUCO. LSU won’t deny him taking chances on pure talent with light issues
Can someone please explain to me what makes Brian Kelly so great? Yea he made a championship game but they got smoked and that was the end so please someone tell me why is this the “GUY”
@@michaelstrickland3568 then you have to look at the video and re read our posts. OR THINK OF IT THIS WAY. Derrick Henry go hard playing for the Titans what if he played for the Ravens.
@Rage Quit big difference when Holtz coached and now. Football has changed drastically
@@bill2953 sensible narrative? Like comparing recruiting today to 40+ years ago? What exactly is "sensible" about that?
My favorite show hands down 💪🏼💪🏼
Man acho got them this time with the if the player left they would be roasted.
moving on up lol serious note tho: you gotta coach thru your bowl game or playoff for the kids, don't leave 'em hanging, finish it then bolt
Blame the NCAA for not mandating that. Coaches just playing within the rules and every single person looks out for themselves and their families first
I think they should play the bowl game. It’s bad for your team. Your team just lost there coach out of the blue and now are expected to play there hearts out for a intern coach? But the team the coach is hired to already fired there coach. The only factor besides having a coach (intern coaches) is recruiting. The NCAA outlaws stupid stuff but not ruining another school season and bowl game by stealing there coach.
@@peytoncofer players shouldn’t be playing their hearts out for their coach they should be doing it for themselves and their future. The coach is just there for extra motivation
Then you leave the new school out to dry in recruiting and set yourself back a year all because you want to be noble.
Totally agree
I just want to commend both of you gentlemen and Joe Klatt as well. You provide some of the most entertaining, articulate and relatable sports commentary. Not yelling and hollering and crazy antics but real insightful analysis. This was one of my favorite clips because this delved deep into social commentary. Thank you for this and keep up the continued excellence.
The cadence and flow of the panel works really well on this show! I’ve been missing out. Will watch more often.
This is one of the best talk shows on television.
They make him an offer he couldn't refuse
He didn’t have to refuse it. The dispute is over how it’s handled
@@valthomas9786 take that dispute up with the ncaa early signing period is at fault. Gots to make your decision fast
Plus I’ve seen kids sit out bowl games for the money to right ? Going to go to the nfl so they sit out the year or the last couple games or the bowl game. But the coach can’t leave at the end to make 100 mil ??! Please
@@lifeofbrandon_ Leave at the end of what? And again, it’s NOT that he can’t leave. I didn’t say that. It’s how you do things
@@valthomas9786 so when was the right time ? After all the good recruits committed to another school because lsu was without a head coach ? Then go and be behind the 8ball and set himself back
Trust me, there are a lot of death before dishoner muhafukas that literally cannot be bought. They're a rare breed, but they def do exist.
Kelly was offered the ND with the clear goal of winning a Natty. He had more than a decade to build his program, but failed to meet the goal and had vacated wins along the way. Look at his record against Alabama, Cinn, and UGA: 0-5. He was headed for 0-6 if meeting one of them again in the playoffs.
He can't recruit the players those schools can!
nd beats cinn if they play again.
Look at his record against LSU 2-0
As a former D1 athlete, I still remember almost committing to an Ivy League school because of extensive conversations I had with their assistant coach who led recruiting efforts. Fortunately I chose to go elsewhere. The next year he was gone. Head coaching job at an ACC school. I get it. He made a decision for his family and career. But had I gone there to play for him, I too, like Acho, would have had a hard time wrestling with that reality.
Coaches have lied forever. In other news; water is wet.
Klatt Daddy is everywhere today. I love it!
Joel Klatt went down several levels in this interview. Wow.
Acho is my man. Just cause it's the way the world is doesn't mean it's the way it should be. Honest men can succeed
I agree with Acho, it's the timing that bothers me, but best of look.
These guys are the best when it comes to Sports debate.
Good conversation and debate! College football and basketball needs a commissioner!!!!
Acho great perspective my guy. You absolutely crushed it
Perspective smersmective. They know coaches make business decisions all the time. That’s why you go to the SCHOOL you want, not the coach you want. On your visits, meet all the players. If you fit in their locker room and you love the school, go. Never commit to a coach. All recruits know that but some have terrible guidance. I’ve seen it all.
@@Iamhimbutyouarenot thanks for your opinion
They all made great arguments. Need more debates ike this.
Kelly did not leave ND for the money. He never even game the Notre Dame AD a chance to match LSU's offer. He just resigned.
That wasnt the Mike Tomlin quote, that Kelly was referring to. he was referring to the USC Alums with blank checks comment
Acho will eventually be the veteran with wise words and experience to debate these types of arguments.
10:56 Klatt and Acho's reaction 😂😂
This is the best show
Exactly, " and do what"....it's about winning!!
Joe Klatt spitting FACTS love when he explains what's really going on
I think it should be against the rules to take all the best players from a team and gut the whole thing. It's wrong.
So basically players can’t act in they best interest now and should go where the school allows, hmmm
They bodied that segment….
Klatt is the best college commentator
Klatt is really good. But Gus Johnson is a freaking legend!!!
Klatt needs a regular shows, dude has great takes. Would love to see him with Colin, they have great chemistry together.
Just because you works, together doesn't always mean you can click together. And by the way, everyone isn't for sale. what profits a man to gain the world and lose his soul ( mind, intellect, character, peace, respect) . Money can't by anything but temporary
Gifts and life style. Money can by a house, but it takes more than money to make it a home.
Dude isn't exactly in his 20s. He wants to make moves now!
I love Acho. Speaks the truth.
so no gripe about how Lincoln left after saying he was staying...i think the media just cant fathom someone left their sacred ND for LSU...and OU is being gutted by the other coaches decision
Riley said he isn't going to LSU. Technically never said that he wouldn't leave to USC
Acho has a heart. Maybe he's "idealistic" but without heart you're just a machine. Press the $ button and you will not be able to say "no" no matter how hard you try.
Great philosophy!
My counter argument to Klatt would be that Kelly has done this very same thing at EVERY program he’s been at (sneaking out the door). It’s the HOW. That is why some feel that Kelly is a snake in the grass.
It’s the same way every coach leaves lol
Listen, this stuff is bound to, has always, and will always happen with coaches playing musical chairs like their going out of style! But at least Lincoln Riley showed truer (not much, but an improvement) character and decency in his addressing of the coaching move with his players! What Brian Kelly did was pure Bush League to his kids, yanking the rug right out from under them! Sad when u make a promise to your recruits' parents that u will take care of them in every way away from home and then pull even a 360 wool over their eyes (the parents)! Kelly then has the audacity in an apology attempt to say to his kids "I'm sorry it went this way you having to find out from other sources besides and before me"! Seriously he'd have been better off taking the high road and not even tried to apologize because it made him sound more ludicrous! Shame on you Brian Kelly but at the same time you showed the entire world your true stripes! Money and ego trump all in your case - callously tweeting instead of getting your team together personally to inform - what an utter disgrace
Not everyone is for sale. This guy is clueless. But I do like how these guys don’t interrupt each other.
He abandons his players with games left to play and you have no problem 😂😂
The problem is leaving with a CFP on the line now if he has no shot of a championship nobody cares
Kelly did this before to Cincinnati, leaving before the bowl game, we shouldn't be surprised he did it again.
I am an LSU fan but as just a general fan I can definitely agree with this.....the timing is all jacked up and I don't like it either....The rules do need to be changed. Great argument fellas
100 million? I am rolling out as well...
Joel Klatt + SFY?
Yes please!!!
Acho is right.
Early signing day is the sole reason for the TIMING of Kelly's decision. Kelly knows that Scott Woodward had to announce a coach now, because of the Dec 15th ESD. That's it. That's the reason. And it's not Kelly, nor Woodward's fault.
I disagree that Kelly is merely "chasing the money". Kelly knows that he can't win a NC with the talent Notre Dame gets. LSU has that talent and LSU is committed to athletic excellence across the board, as evidenced by all the recent coaching hires - this is what Kelly means when he says alignment. At this point in time, there is nothing holding back a head football coach from winning a NC at LSU - THAT is why Kelly accepted the job. If Kelly was "chasing the money", he would have let Notre Dame counter.
Brian Kelly brought ND back from the dead and made them relevant again and was only paying him 2.7M a year lol let’s be honest ND looks at their job as the greatest thing since sliced bread and you should be happy just to call yourself the coach of notre dame football their ego wouldn’t allow them to pay a coach the kind of money LSU paid him so there was no reason to have ND counter because they wasn’t going to counter anywhere in that neighborhood not even the same zip code
Exactly, and the last 3 LSU coaches have won a National Championship.
He seems to be doing just fine to me
I don't think it's just the money. I'm fairly confident LSU waved that same nine-figure check in front of Lincoln Riley and Jimbo Fisher, but Lincoln probably saw a significantly easier job in LA than what he'd get in BR and Jimbo probably felt LSU was exponentially more pressure for what was essentially a lateral move.
A&M to LSU is not a lateral move. 😂
Until Saban retires, it absolutely is. The only difference between A&M and LSU right now is the pressure on the coach.
I agree 100% with Klatt. These decisions were about money… a lot of it, pure and simple. Kelly and Riley were the head football coaches at Oklahoma and Notre Dame! Last time I checked these are two of the top 10 programs in the country. OU and ND have no restrictions on recruiting or TV exposure or anything for that matter. They recruit nation-wide and are always in the conversation for big time bowls and the CFP. We’re not talking about a very solid, but regional program like a Wisconsin… or a program with limited exposure and backing like a Cincinnati. Peeps are acting like poor Brian Kelly couldn’t win the big one at ND because he don’t have the tools to do so…. Seriously?! The Irish have their own TV network in NBC. And Riley…? The Sooners are in the playoff picture every season with Heisman winning QBs. Explain to me how coaching at USC or LSU is going to dramatically improve either’ s ability to compete on the big stage. Because as a college football fan, I’m not buying it.
2:55 I love Acho and Wiley, Klatt nailed this one.
Over 100 million dollars? Generational wealth? Yeah, that’s enough to get the job done
Coaches get cut mid season everyday b
I must be too attached to money cause I see nothing wrong with this move 😂 it was definitely Money Play 💯
Acho get out ya feelings big Dawg....
No Notre Dame fan is broken-hearted that Brian Kelly left. Marcus Freeman is going to do well there. And not give off that odor that always seemed to follow Kelly around. Freeman was THE recruiter at ND. Can't imagine Kelly being good at that. All the other coaches stayed at ND. No one followed Kelly. That says something. I think ND's stock just went up.
I’m on klatt and wileys side, but what does happen if Norte dame makes the playoffs?
Notre Dame fan, Good bye, Thanks for getting the program back on course. Now let's go get that Coach to get next, let Kelly take his own heat with him.
Back on course to getting squashed by SC every year. Ready for it lol
Now that Riley is at USC, Notre Dame will get an L every year, lol! I hate that because I don't care much for USC.
Wiley hit different with that Columbia academia 🤣🤣🤣
Klatt is right. And for the people blaming the coaches for leaving should blame the schools more. USC fired Helton a few games into the season. But I just believe people are salty due to the money.
Acho dont feel bad the Bearcats felt same way even worse they was undefeated Brian Kelly bounce to Notre dame now he left LSU
I agree 100% with Acho! I get but I don't like it!
Acho your issue is with the lack of communication with the team and organization. Let the players and staff know you will be moving on. Timing wise it makes sense because those are the constraints now with early signing. Mainly the issue isn't with the idea of him leaving it's with how he chose to leave. Just be a stand-up guy about it. If I am developing young men, then in my eyes, that includes showing them more than the field. But how to rightly maneuver the world. These kids generally do buy in to the BS of the coach for the school then the coach leaves. What needs to happen ultimately to make this seem less damaging is players getting a better understanding of the business side of college football. There are two hit commodities, player and coach. So as these coaches go to recruit the players they are also being scouted to go somewhere else. Be loyal to the men on the field with you while you are there and be loyal to your success.
If we know how the college sports works then just be honest then and say “I can leave at any moment but I still want you to come to Notre Dame or any other college”
He got them to the playoffs through good player development. I know these guys don’t follow ND recruiting but I do. And I can tell you right now, Kelly didn’t put the effort into getting elite recruits. I get ND can’t get every 5 star or high 4 star. But the ones they do have a chance at he doesn’t put the effort in.
Not trying to be a wise-guy but how do you know he didn't put in the effort. I've heard fans say this before and I always wonder how they know this.
Norte Dame does have a uphill battle and always will… it’s called actual Academic Requirements…
Brian Kelly is a great regular season coach, come Playoff time not so much.....
If Kelly rejects the job at LSU and waited, LSU would have chosen someone else. Also coaching is a job. If you have an opportunity to make more money and a better life you don’t go up to your current boss and tell them I plan on leaving when a better opportunity arises.
Amen joel Klatt it's all about them Benjamin's not about the program or players self hearted dude can't say he loves the players or program when dollar signs make a decision. To prove that he leaves before the end of the season when irish still hae a chance he basically proving he thinks they don't
Any one would turn down 9 figures? Lincoln Riley and Jimbo Fischer did exactly that and others might have as well.
This is business it's the business of college football Brian Kelly think the first coach to bail like that and he's clearly not going to be the last how come Lincoln Riley getting the criticism to for up in leave OU
Not everyone is for sale, Klatt.
No matter where kids grow up if they have ties to lsu or the state they go there
So they think a coach that wants to leave their current job for what they believe is a better situation is going to wait until after National signing day. This would set them back in their new position. This situation will happen again unless college football is structured so coaches have time to change schools and have time to get prepared for National signing day. These guys seem to be more interested in personalities and their homer attitude toward a particular team.
Or............he got PAAAAAAAAID! Like Johnny Kemp said...
I don’t get why guys like Wiley hates ND. What did they do to him??
Klatt knows the reality to all of this.
It’s not that he left. It’s how he left that’s the issue. Ghosting people at ND? Letting his team find out on social media? That’s the classless part. Leaving isn’t classless. He made a smart business decision.
Wow..that’s a real statement..everyone is for sale
Hmmmm was it JUST Klatt speaking about this?
The reason BK didn’t win at ND and now at LSU was because he keeps getting out coached. He’s a great recruiter not a great coach. That Ole Miss game a couple days ago. That’s on him.
Klatt, it's not "none". There's one coach who has been offered the $$$ and the NFL has called but he stayed. And you have been around and spoken to him many times. You're forgetting Kirk Ferentz. (Yeah, the money was never 9 figures, but it was high at the time.)
It's never a good time for a coach you want to leave your program. Welcome to LSU!!!
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I may be "for sale", but there are things that really matter, as well. I wouldn't change my present.occupational position just because there is more money involved. This dude makes it sound like if you get more money, or a lot of money, you will move. Not so. In fact, in that context I'm not for sale.
ND can pay him that$$$.. it's the talent differential he left for
I’m trying to think of someone less relevant than Klatt, all I can come up with is Brian Kelly......
Klatt's insistence that money is the primary motivating factor in every person's career decisions is either remarkably naive or darkly cynical. Perhaps both. I've passed up higher paying jobs on a couple occasions because I didn't prefer the city or other factors. And I didn't feel any more the loser for it. The real loser is the poor soul who overvalues the importance of money or who uses it as the penultimate measure of a successful career.
That sounds good. And to your point ain't like he's not going to be rich either way. BUT, He still does have the chance to build something special at LSU.
Maybe he gets more money and a better job. Sounds like a win win.
Have you ever turned down a job paying you double your current salary....with guarantee's???....I think not....
Marcellus, it's "et cetera". There's no "k".
as a nd fan I don't know if Kelly is it. But maybe now there's just no way for nd to be national champs. Maybe nd just cant with the academic standards. I just think it was more Kelly being a good coach not great as to why they couldn't be national champs
Klatt seems off. Like something is bothering him. Disturbed even.
Man y’all are talking about Brian Kelly as if he’s poor, that man doesn’t need any money, he already has money, that man wants to win a championship! Y’all are talking about this man as if he’s some poor college kids trying to get to the pros pre-maturely as a sophomore! C’mon
Why can't Marcellus and Klatt hear Acho's point. IT. IS. ABOUT. CHARACTER. You can say eveyrone does it. Doesn't mean it isn't a low thing to do to promise yourself to your athletes and then abandon them. Character matters people. 100 million dollars or no. Character matters. And I thought Marcellus was the conservative?
Joel Klatt is wrong about not trusting coaches. Billy Napier has done everything right in his move to Florida. There are coaches like that. They just don't get all of the play. It's ones who sell their soul for more money that get all the publicity.
It honestly goes both ways cuz players do the same thing as coaches
No one is loyal to anything except money. Even in Louisiana.
Two minutes and 39 seconds you mention Nick Saban I believe Brian Kelly had a 12 and a record in 2013 with the Notre Dame fighting Irish Notre Dame was number one Alabama was number two Notre Dame got deep and you think LSU is going to beat Alabama with Nick Saban come on Marcus Wiley think about it if he could not beat Notre Dame being ranked number one what makes you think he’s going to be Alabama with LSU thinking about it
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