Great Video Kaltron. You are simply amazing . One little error. Standard deduction for 2 kids is $25,100 not $25,550. Thanks for always sharing your knowledge. This is toooooo GOOD!
Couldn't you just do those deductions on the companies instead of moving it to the parent company? I honestly don't know and am curious. Thank you for the videos you put up! They're educational and informative and digestible.
Its depends on your country, i'm in Australia but i believe there are similarities. In Aus the top personal income tax rate is 45% for incomes over $180k per year. Where as the business/corporate tax rate is fixed at 28%. You want to move as much of your income into the 28% business tax rate. In Australia, you would start this strategy once you are looking to earn over $120k where your on 32% - 37% tax rate.
Larlton, would the holding company or parent company be an S Corp? and how would you pay yourself out oh or would you still pay yourself through a salary from the holding company?
Couple questions. First, what if you don’t have kids? Second, why can’t each LLC just do this? Why create another llc just for management. Seems like all these write offs can just be done on the same llc.
Exactly. That’s my questions. If the LLC’s are assumed single member owner it’s already assumed they are pass through entities and that the net profits fall on the owner of that company hence the AGENT (the holding company) which means the home office usage, cell phone, internet, retirement, gas bills, can be filed in that subsidiary instead of waiting to file with the parent company and doing the same thing. I could be wrong. I just need clarification lol
Thank you so much ill be watching many of your videos in the future! as i am currently in the process of setting up a holding company to parent my 3-4 LLCs. This was quite simple and informational.!
Any other better suggestions on whipping out the 30k tax bill if person doesn’t have kids because question still stands it’s just moving money around if I’m still being taxed on 30k
To be honest, I did this by accident. I didn’t know I created a holding company until a few months ago. I realized I started to make two companies outside my main one because I was not seeing profits though I put in a lot of time and effort and now I’m trying to figure out how I can do what you said in this video. Would be nice to have a chat and help in this matter.
If the holding company is an S-Corp that is offshore, would I then pay myself a reasonable compensation as a US resident and have the rest of the net on that holding corp tax free in a offshore that has 0 corporate tax rate?
Numbers don’t add up. $30,000 payed from three LLC. 2 kids have deduction $12,550 each which equals $25,100 not $25,550 stated in video. It says you would deduct cell phone for $450. in the video that total would come up to $26,000 short of your $30,000 by $4,000. i feel the correct number is $25,100 with another $4,900 to be found to wipe out management fee.
WooHoo ~ I believe I’ll be contacting you within the year to strategized my empire! Thank you once again Karlton for your knowledge and insights! These education gems are just what us small business owners need.
Just wanted to throw this out there.. Is there anyway to include a strategy with stocks or a licensing agreement with this managing company to increase above that 30k level? And what if you had a licensing agreement with an offshore company not domiciled in US Tax jurisdniction.. Thanks and great video!
The way we did it 10+ years ago was to make a London holding company (unless you were British) and a Netherlands IP holding. But I’m not current, which is why I myself am looking at videos like this lol You can easily send 1 to 8% of revenue to NL for royalties. That’s a great form of income to get. But I suppose you could just as well send it to the states. I needed Euros, and your mileage may vary. If you live mostly in USD, I don’t see why you’d bother with NL when you can just easily get another Wyoming or Delaware LLC for IP. I’d also say look at how Apple is organized. They’re quite smart.
It would be nice if I could find someone to explain it from a non RE standpoint for ppl who want to (or already has) started a business. All these videos I come across are all about real estate owners. Not business owners so it's frustrating to follow along.
Great content as always, Karlton. I appreciate what you share. We'll be in touch fairly soon. For now I do have a follow up as I watch this for the umpteenth time: the 10K expense for each LLC, it was shown as a culmination of 30K write off. Ideally is that more so a 10K write off for each LLC? Let me know because we're growing as we speak 💍
Especially considering that in order to pay the kids, they have to actually be providing reasonable services for the amount they are being paid. Otherwise the IRS is going to deny the deduction and slap the owner with a negligence penalty.
And your kids need to be at least 7 years old.. and they could have just worked directly for each LLC and achieved the same result. This is 100% moving money around and using the same available tax strategies that can be used in individual LLCs. Nothing specific to a holding company.
Karlton, your youtube videos are chalk full of knowledge and the way you dissect each topic is clear and to the point. I've learned so much that is tangibly helping me and my family. Your click funnels on the other hand..yikes.. made me feel like i was being recruited to sell Herbal Life, or join your church. and for what though? You have so much great info, i personally would have continued down the funnel had you kept the theme of actionable advice, instead of showing me a picture of a dark tunnel and spending 30 mins telling me how you had to dig yourself out of it 😂 funny but not funny. From a fan.
Does the holding company have to legally own the LLC to benefit. Can I take my from my LLC and put it into my personal account, then take the money from my personal account and put it into the holding company. The reason I ask is because a holdings company cannot be majority owner of an government contracting entity. Which I have
Also, one last question. Do the kids have to be your dependent? I have a step son he lives with Dad and in Have my son. Also how old do they have to be to be able to get "work".
Great video! If you pass the $30k to the holding company and purchase a $30k investment property through that holding company do you have to pay taxes on the original $30k?
Yes because investments are still taxed unless it is being put into a 401K. Investments are generally not write-offs or tax deductible outside of a Traditional IRA or 401K where it goes in before tax and is taxed when drawn upon later in life.
@@floatingodds Technically, no. Unless it is a traditional IRA or 401k as mentioned, you cannot deduct any investments. The only thing you can deduct is mortgage interest for rental properties or improvements and services done on that property that you can use as a deduction to the property when it is sold. Other assets that are true investments cannot generally be deducted as an expense. But it is super important to have the correct definitely of an investment as something that brings you money because some people will claim that things like business cars are "investments" when they don't bring in any money unless they are collectibles or you are an uber driver ;)
@@zach.nicholz hey can you clear this up, for s and c corps I did see something about innovation being a tax write off. Like that's how Amazon paid so few taxes, the money went right back into the company expansion. What is the IRS looking for in this scenario? Patents and development expenses? Or something else entirely?
I'm a Mailcarrier that already itemize with GoodWill receipts. I also do Covered calls with TD Ameritrade but only making about $10,000 from covered calls in my 2nd year of it. Are there any other tax advantages I can receive?
Yes but the standard to claim a dependent is much less than filing individual tax returns for each child. Each child gets to claim the $12,400 rather than you claiming the measly $2k as a dependent and only a couple of grand on the additional child credit if you even quality for it; chances are you won't quality for much because most people who own businesses tend to make "too much" for this additional child credit to be worth anything.
Your assets can be protected in an LLC, but it has to be done before you’re married. You can’t use businesses post-marriage to hide assets owned by both parties.
LLC #1#2#3 are "series co" of LLC #4 being the parent co.? So we only using LLC#4 EIN number for banking purpose or is each LLC stand alone and we have EIN for each one?
Unfortunately, each one needs it's own bank account and EIN. There's just more paperwork involved and more licensing/registrations. Each LLC would need to be registered within your state and/or licensing your state or county requires to run that business. So even though you have 2 children (example from video) to wipe away $12,550, you have to consider the payroll taxes you need to pay.
Pay your kids as a contractor so no payroll taxes are required…..and part of their duties could be 1: lawn service for the properties as an up charge on lease agreement 2: general duties as assigned
@@lurueanthonyofficial if your kids are under 18 and you have a sole proprietorship or LLC you don’t pay payroll taxes. You would only have to pay payroll taxes if you pay them out of a C or S-corp.
Thanks for the visual aid, for me, its challenging to understand the concepts without. Had one question, is the management company different than the holding? If yes, does the holding own the management company?
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I would like to point out that the additional wright off would be $4,450 otherwise it's just $26,000 and not $30,000.
Great Video Kaltron. You are simply amazing . One little error. Standard deduction for 2 kids is $25,100 not $25,550. Thanks for always sharing your knowledge. This is toooooo GOOD!
and then doesn’t that leave $4,900 and not $450 left over?
@@mikesanchez9298absolutely correct
Great video. Some numbers need to be fixed. 12550*2=25,100. Leaving over 4,900 for other reductions
I'm looking forward to this after I become a millionaire, thank you Karlton for dropping knowledge.
Why after? Before is the key,so you can become a millionaire faster!
After? Good luck becoming a millionaire, paying 40% in taxes.
Thank you for explaining the concepts in simpler terms, Karlton! These videos are very educational and practical
Amazing info & right on time for what I’m setting up. Thank you Karlton!!!!
Couldn't you just do those deductions on the companies instead of moving it to the parent company? I honestly don't know and am curious. Thank you for the videos you put up! They're educational and informative and digestible.
Its depends on your country, i'm in Australia but i believe there are similarities.
In Aus the top personal income tax rate is 45% for incomes over $180k per year. Where as the business/corporate tax rate is fixed at 28%.
You want to move as much of your income into the 28% business tax rate.
In Australia, you would start this strategy once you are looking to earn over $120k where your on 32% - 37% tax rate.
No.
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Larlton, would the holding company or parent company be an S Corp? and how would you pay yourself out oh or would you still pay yourself through a salary from the holding company?
Hope to see more videos on tax strategies for Holding/Operating Companies!
Couple questions. First, what if you don’t have kids? Second, why can’t each LLC just do this? Why create another llc just for management. Seems like all these write offs can just be done on the same llc.
Exactly. That’s my questions. If the LLC’s are assumed single member owner it’s already assumed they are pass through entities and that the net profits fall on the owner of that company hence the AGENT (the holding company) which means the home office usage, cell phone, internet, retirement, gas bills, can be filed in that subsidiary instead of waiting to file with the parent company and doing the same thing. I could be wrong. I just need clarification lol
It has to do with payroll and tax filings
$ goes to the parent company.
Thank you so much ill be watching many of your videos in the future! as i am currently in the process of setting up a holding company to parent my 3-4 LLCs. This was quite simple and informational.!
Thank you, this information is super helpful and i love how you explained it.
Im confused, the kids made money and you wrote off expenses but where did (you) make any money?
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Peace!! Love the segments and knowledge that you share, Karlton, and absolutely loving the lavender shirt here!!🔥🔥💯
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Any other better suggestions on whipping out the 30k tax bill if person doesn’t have kids because question still stands it’s just moving money around if I’m still being taxed on 30k
good info, what would be the advantage of having crypto assets (prior to large gains) in holding company compared to holding as an individual
You do such a good job explaining everything!
Bro, mind-blowing!! Thank you for breaking it down like that. Great content. Love the videos
I can see why I will need someone like you sooner than later.
To be honest, I did this by accident. I didn’t know I created a holding company until a few months ago. I realized I started to make two companies outside my main one because I was not seeing profits though I put in a lot of time and effort and now I’m trying to figure out how I can do what you said in this video. Would be nice to have a chat and help in this matter.
If the holding company is an S-Corp that is offshore, would I then pay myself a reasonable compensation as a US resident and have the rest of the net on that holding corp tax free in a offshore that has 0 corporate tax rate?
Valuable info. I appreciate this!
Check your math on the offset. It was not 450 to offset. Not 25,500 rather 25,100.
Great video Karlton as always. I have a question, should my biz credit cards be in my holding co name or operating co name? Thx you
If you don't have kids, is there a different strategy for offsetting the money in the parent company?
VERY good information! Thanks, Karlton
Is the parent company a holding LLC? Can it be a holding LLC in WY? Thanks for the free education.
That was great brother 🙏🏾
Very helpful video Karlton! I don't see patreon link in the description. Can you please share it?
The smile at 7:45 is like guys… this is a home run :))
I don’t think the retirement account is owned by the LLC. Maybe you mean the beneficiary of the retirement account is the LLC?
Numbers don’t add up. $30,000 payed from three LLC. 2 kids have deduction $12,550 each which equals $25,100 not $25,550 stated in video. It says you would deduct cell phone for $450. in the video that total would come up to $26,000 short of your $30,000 by $4,000. i feel the correct number is $25,100 with another $4,900 to be found to wipe out management fee.
Omg that's exactly what I needed to hear, can I consult with you?
WooHoo ~ I believe I’ll be contacting you within the year to strategized my empire! Thank you once again Karlton for your knowledge and insights! These education gems are just what us small business owners need.
I think this segment is over my head???? I need to go back and listen and take notes this time
Just wanted to throw this out there.. Is there anyway to include a strategy with stocks or a licensing agreement with this managing company to increase above that 30k level? And what if you had a licensing agreement with an offshore company not domiciled in US Tax jurisdniction.. Thanks and great video!
The way we did it 10+ years ago was to make a London holding company (unless you were British) and a Netherlands IP holding. But I’m not current, which is why I myself am looking at videos like this lol
You can easily send 1 to 8% of revenue to NL for royalties. That’s a great form of income to get. But I suppose you could just as well send it to the states. I needed Euros, and your mileage may vary. If you live mostly in USD, I don’t see why you’d bother with NL when you can just easily get another Wyoming or Delaware LLC for IP. I’d also say look at how Apple is organized. They’re quite smart.
Love the Ron Paul clip.
Sweet info dude!
Why not just pay your kids the $12K from the base LLCs?
Thank you for this, you're making a difference 🚀🚀
It would be nice if I could find someone to explain it from a non RE standpoint for ppl who want to (or already has) started a business. All these videos I come across are all about real estate owners. Not business owners so it's frustrating to follow along.
Excellent as always 💪💯
how exactly do you send the fee to your management company? send a check, transfer, or invoice your LLCs?
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Great content as always, Karlton. I appreciate what you share. We'll be in touch fairly soon. For now I do have a follow up as I watch this for the umpteenth time: the 10K expense for each LLC, it was shown as a culmination of 30K write off. Ideally is that more so a 10K write off for each LLC? Let me know because we're growing as we speak 💍
Amazing… you forgot to factor in the annual filing expenses for LLC #4
That’s also a write off 😂
If I open a Holdings company before opening a REI LLC, does it mean I have to file tax returns for 2 companies? Thanks a lot🤝👍🙌😊
Could children who are business owners employ a parent (mom or dad) and get the same benefit if they don't have their own children yet or ever?
AMAZING INFORMATION
I would love to hear this same scenario without kids.
Agreed!
Yes, everyone keeps talking aboit generational wealth, but we don't have kids.
Especially considering that in order to pay the kids, they have to actually be providing reasonable services for the amount they are being paid. Otherwise the IRS is going to deny the deduction and slap the owner with a negligence penalty.
@irshasher3602 not to mention it's your kids money now unless you are going to steal it back
And your kids need to be at least 7 years old.. and they could have just worked directly for each LLC and achieved the same result. This is 100% moving money around and using the same available tax strategies that can be used in individual LLCs. Nothing specific to a holding company.
Is an asset purchased with the consolidated profits from the subsidiaries considered an expense for the holding/parent company? Rhetorical.
You're giving out GOLD
Could you not also set-up the holding company as an S Corp?
Great class
Is this a universal strategy or specific to the US?
If you use your children for deduction would that take away anonymity of your holding company in anonymity holding company states ?
This was gooooood!!
Karlton, your youtube videos are chalk full of knowledge and the way you dissect each topic is clear and to the point. I've learned so much that is tangibly helping me and my family.
Your click funnels on the other hand..yikes.. made me feel like i was being recruited to sell Herbal Life, or join your church. and for what though? You have so much great info, i personally would have continued down the funnel had you kept the theme of actionable advice, instead of showing me a picture of a dark tunnel and spending 30 mins telling me how you had to dig yourself out of it 😂 funny but not funny.
From a fan.
Does the holding company have to legally own the LLC to benefit. Can I take my from my LLC and put it into my personal account, then take the money from my personal account and put it into the holding company. The reason I ask is because a holdings company cannot be majority owner of an government contracting entity. Which I have
Also, one last question. Do the kids have to be your dependent? I have a step son he lives with Dad and in Have my son. Also how old do they have to be to be able to get "work".
Bro thank you! Do you have any business info I can reach you at?
How could I get a consultation with you
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So with a holding company does the subsidiary companies income flow through to the parent company or still to the personal income ?
Great video! If you pass the $30k to the holding company and purchase a $30k investment property through that holding company do you have to pay taxes on the original $30k?
Yes because investments are still taxed unless it is being put into a 401K. Investments are generally not write-offs or tax deductible outside of a Traditional IRA or 401K where it goes in before tax and is taxed when drawn upon later in life.
@@zach.nicholz thank you. Could an investment ever look like a business expense? “A company that provides corporate housing”?
@@floatingodds Technically, no. Unless it is a traditional IRA or 401k as mentioned, you cannot deduct any investments. The only thing you can deduct is mortgage interest for rental properties or improvements and services done on that property that you can use as a deduction to the property when it is sold. Other assets that are true investments cannot generally be deducted as an expense. But it is super important to have the correct definitely of an investment as something that brings you money because some people will claim that things like business cars are "investments" when they don't bring in any money unless they are collectibles or you are an uber driver ;)
@@zach.nicholz hey can you clear this up, for s and c corps I did see something about innovation being a tax write off. Like that's how Amazon paid so few taxes, the money went right back into the company expansion. What is the IRS looking for in this scenario? Patents and development expenses? Or something else entirely?
@@MrArtVein I'm not quite sure about C-corps to be honest. I don't want to give you any false info or anything I don't "know" for a fact. Sorry!
Great info. What if you don't have kids?
Is the parent company under the Trust as well?
Can the management company be S-corp? And operating businesses under it be an Assumed business instead of LLC?
Is there a cap on percentage of income from the main LLCs that can be paid as a “management fee” to the holding company?
Hey @karlton Dennis how old do the kids have to me in order to be able to start paying them?
Good stuff
Thank Youuu!!!!!
how do you offest the 30k if you don't have kids?
I'm a Mailcarrier that already itemize with GoodWill receipts. I also do Covered calls with TD Ameritrade but only making about $10,000 from covered calls in my 2nd year of it. Are there any other tax advantages I can receive?
goodwill receipts itemized how, why? thanks for sharing the info.
Can the parent management co. be created after the child LLCs ?
What is the document you have to sign for parent company ?
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If the management company claims up to the standard deduction on a child, do you lose the actual standard deduction on your personal income tax?
Yes but the standard to claim a dependent is much less than filing individual tax returns for each child. Each child gets to claim the $12,400 rather than you claiming the measly $2k as a dependent and only a couple of grand on the additional child credit if you even quality for it; chances are you won't quality for much because most people who own businesses tend to make "too much" for this additional child credit to be worth anything.
Thanks 🙏
Next video please how to protect half of your assets from being stolen by the court in the event of a divorce
@@richdibo I know lol but she does so with the help of the court and I was just being facetious
Your assets can be protected in an LLC, but it has to be done before you’re married. You can’t use businesses post-marriage to hide assets owned by both parties.
Concept works.
WTF kind of numbers at 7:30 ?? 12,550 x 2 = $25,100. And anyway 30,000-25550=4,450... not 450. Nevermind that the $25,550 is wrong.
Do I have to look at your Porsche?
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Finally thanks
LLC #1#2#3 are "series co" of LLC #4 being the parent co.? So we only using LLC#4 EIN number for banking purpose or is each LLC stand alone and we have EIN for each one?
Unfortunately, each one needs it's own bank account and EIN. There's just more paperwork involved and more licensing/registrations. Each LLC would need to be registered within your state and/or licensing your state or county requires to run that business. So even though you have 2 children (example from video) to wipe away $12,550, you have to consider the payroll taxes you need to pay.
Okay 👌 cool thanks
Pay your kids as a contractor so no payroll taxes are required…..and part of their duties could be
1: lawn service for the properties as an up charge on lease agreement
2: general duties as assigned
@@lurueanthonyofficial if your kids are under 18 and you have a sole proprietorship or LLC you don’t pay payroll taxes. You would only have to pay payroll taxes if you pay them out of a C or S-corp.
Thank you your impressive.
Thanks for the visual aid, for me, its challenging to understand the concepts without. Had one question, is the management company different than the holding? If yes, does the holding own the management company?
this is gold!! I dont have kids!
How can the taxes collectors prove that payers give their money to the kids?
What if I do not have any kids?
Wassup potna!
Taxation is theft per the 1923 S.Ct. defining what income is and is not. Never Overruled ergo good law.