The Atelier needs to be the main pro model from Yamaha it will drive the cost down if it is mass produced and it truly could be the modern equivalent to the Mark VI. Having played two here in the States they are amazing and deserve to be the flagship model for Yamaha.
I have been playing an Atelier tenor for a few months now and it is simply the finest saxophone I have ever played. I sold my Mark VI not long after I got the Atelier. The thing with the Atelier is that it is so damned easy to play! I just got home from a gig tonight and came across this video and I can attest to everything this guy said about the Atelier. It's a joy to play and unlike my Mark VI, you can put as much air into it as you want and it still plays in tune. I play in R&B/Funk bands and this horn just screams and never seems to play out of tune. It is well worth the money. It's a very light horn, about 12 ounces lighter than a 82Z. And that makes a difference when you're onstage for 3-4 hours.
A couple of years ago I was able to try 2 for a long period of time as I had a good connection with Yamaha (great guys over in Germany) Both beautiful to look at and great under the fingers. Straight to the point I was not a fan of the C1 neck and was actually a little deflated when testing them. Sure they look and feel nice but the C1 neck, as I found, was a bit stuffy restricting my sound so I switched to the V1 neck and it was much better, a total joy in my view and brought the saxophone to life. The C1 was "ok" but did not do the sax justice if you are wanting a brighter sort of tone, this is not putting Yamaha or the C1 down and I have been a Yamaha player for many years and I am very sure lots of players will love the C1 but it felt smaller and stuffy in comparison to the V1. The V1 made it a much better experience and transformed the beauty into the beast it was meant to be with a big open edgy raw and super flexible sound (I like Bob Berg ,Brecker, brighter projecting players etc) sure it is all about personal preferences but try with a V1 and see for yourself and it will come alive if you want a brighter tone with the V1 neck. Just my views after many months of being in a position to test them.
I really liked the way this video was done, especially the "Tone-King" coming in part. The Atelier sounds like a great saxophone! I don't know about anyone else, some say heavy mass neck screws do nothing but for me, I found they can make the low notes play better. I really wish Yamaha would make an alto version. I think closest comparison in alto would be the Yamaha YAS-82ZWS made by Yamaha and having additions added by WoodStone.
@@ngtamphuong I never looked at what she played before, but you are right she does. Maybe that is partly why I didn't know about it as I have never seen one for sale before, only a few Atelier tenors .
@@KrisVComm the ASP is much more unique. Though WS is a great horn, it’s just yet another Taiwan made horn, a copy of Selmer Series II or Ref 54 in design.
I love how post construction is on student models because it’s cheaper…… ribbed construction on pro models because it’s more solid. but then marketed again on higher end or special models as “lighter”. SMH
Saxophonists are famous for doing everything to get better at the instrument besides playing the horn :) I'm looking into baris and there's so many people who will wax poetic about the "free-blowing" nature of the lighter, post-to-body construction. Is it true? I haven't tried them side by side, but I'd probably say I doubt it. That being said, the lacquer on the Atelier is so gorgeous that I can't help but want one...
Ribbed construction gives solidity to the instrument, better resistance to impacts. It also changes the tone character of the instrument, because in the saxophone, the entire body creates the sound, from top to bottom. Lighter saxophones that have a body not made too rigid (immovable) by many posts, vibrate freely and produce mellower sound with more harmonics. And there a saxophone maker faces a design decision: how to make a saxophone solid enough for concerts and stage (ab)use, and still able to vibrate more freely. It's not easy.
Yes! I dont know whether all that hype and gushing about the "new" features is LIGHT bullshit or HEAVY bullshit.........but oh yes! I smell SHITE. Posts used to be RIBBED (for the player's pleasure?). Now they're going back to stand-alone posts because -let me paraphrase with some poetic license here: "It allows the horn to resonate in all its glorious lengthiness". But I bet this "Atelier" model doesnt (shouldnt) have their much-vaunted stand-alone posts for the left-hand palm keys if only for the simple reason that this will actually weaken them. And that stuff about the neck now being lighter and norrower so that the air is better projected or something....... SHITE!But then again, I wash and wax my car just to make it more aerodynamic.
@@Cantbuyathrill I did not understand what you wanted to say. However, regardless of your approval or disapproval, Atelier tenor DOES sound very different from a stock 82Z tenor. They are very different instruments. The only saxophone that Atelier reminds me of, is the tenor saxophone produced by the Japanese company Woodstone.
@@zvonimirtosic6171 If you didnt understand where I stand, give it another read. My gripe is not with the alleged merits of this horn, but with the hard-on gushiness and the "Im not worth it" attitude of these guys in describing this artificially-made-scarce commodity, talking about debatable things as if they were all of a sudden definite facts. I'm not approving or disapproving of the horn; hordes of people may find it to their liking -and more power to them, personal tastes and preferences when it comes to diminishing return "improvements" should beyond reproach since it's all so relative and subjective. You are right when you say that The Atelier sounds different, but different doesnt mean better. And as far as sound, the only sound this horn reminds me of is the sound of a fat wad of money smacking a countertop for prospective buyers are already primed to do that.
Love your video!! I play the new (3) 82Z-UL WOF tenor with heavy screw and metal thumb rest (almost a Atelier model :). Its the best horn in my collection even of the Selmer MVI's. I think its the new standard for the future!
Haven’t visited this channel since Jim cheek reviewed the yas 62 2nd series. They’ve certainly have gone with the whole typical TH-camr format. Not saying I dislike it though just feels different
Hi Xavier - you will still find many of Jim's excellent demos frequently on our channel. We just have a variety of staff onboard to create more videos for you all 👌🏻
sax prices are a piss take these days, just give me a tenor 800-1200 euro that works and the G#/Ab key doesnt stick. I have had selmer SII black, yamaha and others. Pricing has gone ridiculous. what part of pandemic and recession is not clear ?? lol PS: nice vid
What are your thoughts on the Yamaha 580 alto saxophone? Is it worth the price? Is the build reliable? I can't find any videos on this particular saxophone.
Relax, man! Just a matter of time before the competition outdoes that horn!!! One would think you've found The Holy freakin Grail (or Michael Jackson's lost glove).
4:05 what u mean "they put it in an it feels more ergonomical" ? The reason why Selmer SBA revolutionized the saxophone it becouse it increased ergonomics by NOT making the toneholes inline. So what u say is contradictional to the common sence.
This horn is great but if y’all are really trying to get some great horns, check out the tru-six tenor and nexus one and select tenors. Best tenors in the world right now
@@saxworldwide The Atelier was also a great free blowing in-tune machine, but I just personally don’t like how they feel compared to other horns, still awesome!
@@saxworldwide Guess my other comment didn’t post, the nexus is a new modern jazz horn developed by Boston Sax Shop and Chad LB, it has a great full sound and nice keywork. The tru-six is made by ireedman and is a great mark 6 copy with good playability and intonation. You can nexus horns played by Chad on his channel and the tru-six on Saxologics channel
Hi Keith, we simply don't list the price and they've been changing so much recently! We've popped a link in the description for you to see the latest price.
Yamaha, don't give them to this London store, instead to some decent stores in the EU so they can be purchased duty-free by EU citizens. Thanks, Yamaha! 🤣
The Atelier needs to be the main pro model from Yamaha it will drive the cost down if it is mass produced and it truly could be the modern equivalent to the Mark VI. Having played two here in the States they are amazing and deserve to be the flagship model for Yamaha.
I have been playing an Atelier tenor for a few months now and it is simply the finest saxophone I have ever played. I sold my Mark VI not long after I got the Atelier. The thing with the Atelier is that it is so damned easy to play! I just got home from a gig tonight and came across this video and I can attest to everything this guy said about the Atelier. It's a joy to play and unlike my Mark VI, you can put as much air into it as you want and it still plays in tune. I play in R&B/Funk bands and this horn just screams and never seems to play out of tune. It is well worth the money. It's a very light horn, about 12 ounces lighter than a 82Z. And that makes a difference when you're onstage for 3-4 hours.
Please Yamaha, send us more Atelier horns. It's simply not fair that Steve Kortyka owns them all.
Okay, I just so hard at this comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm savin' up for 3 years time.
That’s so funny 😂 , but your right
Ah-ha! The "secret weapon" has been revealed! A related line of gear questions may ensue on a popular sax instruction website. 😉
to my knowledge theres only about 100 and yes I own all of them.
A couple of years ago I was able to try 2 for a long period of time as I had a good connection with Yamaha (great guys over in Germany) Both beautiful to look at and great under the fingers. Straight to the point I was not a fan of the C1 neck and was actually a little deflated when testing them. Sure they look and feel nice but the C1 neck, as I found, was a bit stuffy restricting my sound so I switched to the V1 neck and it was much better, a total joy in my view and brought the saxophone to life. The C1 was "ok" but did not do the sax justice if you are wanting a brighter sort of tone, this is not putting Yamaha or the C1 down and I have been a Yamaha player for many years and I am very sure lots of players will love the C1 but it felt smaller and stuffy in comparison to the V1. The V1 made it a much better experience and transformed the beauty into the beast it was meant to be with a big open edgy raw and super flexible sound (I like Bob Berg ,Brecker, brighter projecting players etc) sure it is all about personal preferences but try with a V1 and see for yourself and it will come alive if you want a brighter tone with the V1 neck. Just my views after many months of being in a position to test them.
I like this intro you should do this for all your videos
I need a Yamaha Atelier. Need. Without it my life is meaningless.
(Don’t tell the family)
Me too bruh 😅
Honestly, the BEST and FUNNIEST saxophone review I've ever seen! Good job! 🤣
I want one and I'd buy one. This said, being a limited edition saxophone (for me) makes it just more special,
Lool... can't wait to revisit and meet the tone-king... 😅.. Michael Weber is always hilarious..
LOVE ALL THESE YAMAHA HORNS. I ALREADY USED YAS62,YTS62 AND THE YSS475 AND THEY WORK ALL GOOD!
you are completely crazy !!! But we love that . . . .. YAMAHA I WANT A82Z ATELIER . . ... We all want a 82Z ATELIER . . . . .
I have this saxophone !!! Its amazing, im from Costa Rica !!
I tested the bare brass 1st ever in the UK . Yamaha reps horn. Best tenor ever
He got a velvety smooth tone from that sax. Very nice indeed.
Expect no less from the Tone King 🤴
Highly entertaining presentation! Really enjoyed this format. Keep up the good work! And Yamaha please send us more Atelier Tenors!
I really liked the way this video was done, especially the "Tone-King" coming in part. The Atelier sounds like a great saxophone! I don't know about anyone else, some say heavy mass neck screws do nothing but for me, I found they can make the low notes play better. I really wish Yamaha would make an alto version. I think closest comparison in alto would be the Yamaha YAS-82ZWS made by Yamaha and having additions added by WoodStone.
Yeah, that alto is becoming legendary as well
They’ve already made the alto version. Grace Kelly has been playing on it for a long time.
@@ngtamphuong I never looked at what she played before, but you are right she does. Maybe that is partly why I didn't know about it as I have never seen one for sale before, only a few Atelier tenors .
Why not just get the WoodStone? It’s a better horn from the initial design forward
@@KrisVComm the ASP is much more unique. Though WS is a great horn, it’s just yet another Taiwan made horn, a copy of Selmer Series II or Ref 54 in design.
Best video ever.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is probably the best video ever …
I love how post construction is on student models because it’s cheaper…… ribbed construction on pro models because it’s more solid. but then marketed again on higher end or special models as “lighter”. SMH
Saxophonists are famous for doing everything to get better at the instrument besides playing the horn :) I'm looking into baris and there's so many people who will wax poetic about the "free-blowing" nature of the lighter, post-to-body construction. Is it true? I haven't tried them side by side, but I'd probably say I doubt it.
That being said, the lacquer on the Atelier is so gorgeous that I can't help but want one...
Ribbed construction gives solidity to the instrument, better resistance to impacts. It also changes the tone character of the instrument, because in the saxophone, the entire body creates the sound, from top to bottom. Lighter saxophones that have a body not made too rigid (immovable) by many posts, vibrate freely and produce mellower sound with more harmonics. And there a saxophone maker faces a design decision: how to make a saxophone solid enough for concerts and stage (ab)use, and still able to vibrate more freely. It's not easy.
Yes! I dont know whether all that hype and gushing about the "new" features is LIGHT bullshit or HEAVY bullshit.........but oh yes! I smell SHITE. Posts used to be RIBBED (for the player's pleasure?). Now they're going back to stand-alone posts because -let me paraphrase with some poetic license here:
"It allows the horn to resonate in all its glorious lengthiness". But I bet this "Atelier" model doesnt (shouldnt) have their much-vaunted stand-alone posts for the left-hand palm keys if only for the simple reason that this will actually weaken them. And that stuff about the neck now being lighter and norrower so that the air is better projected or something....... SHITE!But then again, I wash and wax my car just to make it more aerodynamic.
@@Cantbuyathrill I did not understand what you wanted to say. However, regardless of your approval or disapproval, Atelier tenor DOES sound very different from a stock 82Z tenor. They are very different instruments. The only saxophone that Atelier reminds me of, is the tenor saxophone produced by the Japanese company Woodstone.
@@zvonimirtosic6171 If you didnt understand where I stand, give it another read. My gripe is not with the alleged merits of this horn, but with the hard-on gushiness and the "Im not worth it" attitude of these guys in describing this artificially-made-scarce commodity, talking about debatable things as if they were all of a sudden definite facts. I'm not approving or disapproving of the horn; hordes of people may find it to their liking -and more power to them, personal tastes and preferences when it comes to diminishing return "improvements" should beyond reproach since it's all so relative and subjective. You are right when you say that The Atelier sounds different, but different doesnt mean better. And as far as sound, the only sound this horn reminds me of is the sound of a fat wad of money smacking a countertop for prospective buyers are already primed to do that.
I have 2 82z - a black and a UL. Want that exact model though, has to be the dark lacquer and has to have high f#.
Great video presentation! The opening is epic unto itself.
Hey guys, nice AE work! Oh yeah, and the horn is great.
excellent sound is very expensive for my health
What mouthpiece does ToneKing use please, many thanks. I have an Atelier and haven't played my MK6 since I got it.
So I just bought a tenor altier sax fir just $30 and I can't wait to get it
If I played a Yamaha professionally it would be that one lol... WITHOUT that high F# key. Very expensive though.
fantastic saxophone 🤩🥰🎷
Love your video!! I play the new (3) 82Z-UL WOF tenor with heavy screw and metal thumb rest (almost a Atelier model :). Its the best horn in my collection even of the Selmer MVI's. I think its the new standard for the future!
So it's a great saxophone. What's the big problem with it from the clickbate thumbnail. Why do TH-cam channels do this?
Hi! The big problem is that it's almost impossible to buy one. This was clearly explained within one minute of the video.
Nice video - Michael's are always entertaining! What's the background music please?
Haven’t visited this channel since Jim cheek reviewed the yas 62 2nd series. They’ve certainly have gone with the whole typical TH-camr format. Not saying I dislike it though just feels different
Hi Xavier - you will still find many of Jim's excellent demos frequently on our channel. We just have a variety of staff onboard to create more videos for you all 👌🏻
I’ve played an atelier alto 😌
Ooph! what a beauty!!
sax prices are a piss take these days, just give me a tenor 800-1200 euro that works and the G#/Ab key doesnt stick.
I have had selmer SII black, yamaha and others. Pricing has gone ridiculous.
what part of pandemic and recession is not clear ?? lol
PS: nice vid
They also need to bring back the alto version aka YAS-82ZIIVB50TH! Please Yamaha, Please!!!
ishimorie woodstone same but more inexpensive
What are your thoughts on the Yamaha 580 alto saxophone? Is it worth the price? Is the build reliable? I can't find any videos on this particular saxophone.
❣️love it 🤣❣️🎶🎷
Classic
Man, this is the one that makes me forget about MK6🔥🔥🔥🔥
Go to Jl woodwinds page , he’s got some nice new horns
@@johnfilardi yeah I feel like they’re some of the best modern horns out rn
@@XavierJordanMusic I found 2 on reverb I even sent private message if they could give me a better price , they said flat out no price drop,
It’s fantastic; but its not going to drive me away from my two20 :)
Come on Yamaha, you now know what to do…. deliver! (please)
Best horn i ever blew
Please Yamaha, allow the Custom Bari in the US.
Is it just me or does the body of this horn resemble an old Buescher sax from the 50s? Full circle much?
Relax, man! Just a matter of time before the competition outdoes that horn!!!
One would think you've found The Holy freakin Grail (or Michael Jackson's lost glove).
Beautiful horn. I’ll still take the Ishimori Woodstone over this or the Mark VI. They’re the perfect marriage of Selmer and Yamaha tech.
Suddenly I've seen a bunch of these for sale online. I guess people are disillusioned. Mostly western USA.
YUMMI TQ
4:05 what u mean "they put it in an it feels more ergonomical" ? The reason why Selmer SBA revolutionized the saxophone it becouse it increased ergonomics by NOT making the toneholes inline. So what u say is contradictional to the common sence.
This horn is great but if y’all are really trying to get some great horns, check out the tru-six tenor and nexus one and select tenors. Best tenors in the world right now
We haven't managed to try out these saxes yet! How do they compare to the Atelier you tried?
@@saxworldwide The Atelier was also a great free blowing in-tune machine, but I just personally don’t like how they feel compared to other horns, still awesome!
@@saxworldwide Guess my other comment didn’t post, the nexus is a new modern jazz horn developed by Boston Sax Shop and Chad LB, it has a great full sound and nice keywork. The tru-six is made by ireedman and is a great mark 6 copy with good playability and intonation. You can nexus horns played by Chad on his channel and the tru-six on Saxologics channel
A mere 5000
Yes hard to find , be ready to spend $8,600.00 dollars
Good afternoon can't enjoy a presentation of an instrument and the price is not mentioned l just wasted my time watching it to the end.
There is a link to the price on their site in the description. I just wasted my time typing this answer.
Hi Keith, we simply don't list the price and they've been changing so much recently! We've popped a link in the description for you to see the latest price.
Yamaha, don't give them to this London store, instead to some decent stores in the EU so they can be purchased duty-free by EU citizens. Thanks, Yamaha! 🤣
Bear in mind if you order from our site you won't pay the 20% UK VAT! Usually, the EU duties when importing it from us are a lot less than that 👌🏻