This machine is a tank and works well. You can get by with less cleaning on most records and I’m sure we all know that. AIVS #6 is great for new records and previously cleaned records. #15 and a double rinse is how I deal with grungier ones. I do have one of the affordable ultrasonic machines but it is a longer process to set up so I tend to not use it as regularly. It has given notable improvements in sound quality, but it has limited results on pops and clicks in my experience, and it will not cure a damaged record obviously.
Hi again! I tried to acquire a pair of Walker Prelude brushes but everywhere I look it says discontinued. Is there an online store that still sells them?
I have the VPI Cyclone and other cleaning machines. I clean the cork with a small vacuum cleaner with brush that I bought and use only for this purpose. Do not wet the cork as it will be damamaged.I use the VPI mostly for records purchased second hand and my old records. New records go to the ultrasonic machine for 4 minutes. For very dirty records I use Tergikleen with the Spin Clean system (but not the Spin Clean fluid), wash it with distilled water spray, then to the ultrasonic. After a record, new or old, has been through the ultrasonic once I use the VPI for maintenance if needed. I try not to to use the utrasonic on a record more than once.
Good video. I have currently have a Record Doctor VI that I use but it always bugged me that I can’t change the nozzle brush before a water rinse. I am thinking of getting a HumminGuru soon. That way I can use the record doctor with a cleaning fluid then ultrasonic the record with distilled water for a rinse and further clean.
Some suggest using a suction-type machine can actually introduce static and will go so far as to limit the number of revolutions under the wand so as to not build up static. I argue we should do whatever is necessary to fully clean the vinyl and deal with static separately. If you're in a dry climate or have synthetic carpeted floors it is inevitable you'll deal with static electricity. You can try grounding devices to minimize the transfer when cleaning and/or playing records, but a more effective practice is to use a Zerostat. Alternatively, the Kirmuss restoration process utilizes a spray-on compound and goat hair brush as the last step in the process, specifically to address static. It is incredibly effective. In fact, the entire Kirmuss approach is all about controlling static to aid in the cleaning process. Meaning, to render the static charge on the vinyl opposite to that in the ultrasonic tank. It's time consuming but extremely effective. Whether you clean with the Kirmuss process or just use the compound/brush to address static, it may be worth a look, but the Zerostat is probably your best bet as a starting point. Thanks for watching!
I'm using La Art Du Son but mine just doesn't create that many suds regardless of how much scrubbin i do. What strength or dilution ratio do you use when you mix it with water?
For a pure enzymatic soak, I use AIVS (Audio Intelligence Vinyl Solutions). Available here through Elusive disc: elusivedisc.com/audio-intelligent-vinyl-solutions-enzymatic-record-cleaning-fluid-16-ounces/ I also like AIVS #15, which is a mix of enzymatic formula and RCF. I use it when cleaning older records that may or may not have gone through a pure enzymatic soak. Always on the VPI suction type machine.
Impressed by the amount of effort. My record cleaning is a lot more basic. I am puzzled by the fact that you do not seem to clean the cork platter. Inevitably, you must be placing dirty side 2 down on the cork, resulting in some transfer of dirt and oils from side 2 to the cork, then you are placing just cleaned side two down on the cork. I know that the grooved on side 1 won't actually touch the cork and probably very little dirt and oils transfers to the cork from a single cleaning, but if you never clean the cork, doesn't it becomes sufficiently contaminated to be a concern after a substantial number of dirty side 2s have been placed on it? Happy to be told no, as I am no expert, but you seem so meticulous, the lack of attention to cleaning the cork surprised me.
May I ask, how do you clean the cork platter and how often do you do so? You have me intrigued! I admit, all I've done is occasionally use the Giotto to blow off any dust or loose particles from the cork.
you want to be careful sonic machine don't use it more than twice or three times on a record, you should mark your record on the label with a dot and write it inside the cover. if its done six or seven times it is shown to dull the sound of the record. more tests need to be done and the machines themselves. Get yourself a goat's hair paint pad, a lot better than those silly brushes they don't do nothing just surface clean. Why didn't you wash the cork mate you should have done before washing the record and when you flip it
Thanks for the comment. I have recently begun using goat hair brushed in combination with an US cleaning, but haven't used them with the VPI. Regarding the cork, how do you clean it?
Oh I see. I'm not sure I want the strips on my wands dragged over cork! It also seems odd to me to get the cork wet, much less with record cleaning fluid. I generally just hit the cork with a Giotto blaster to blow off any particles. @@jedi-mic
I don't know what cork you got most cork I've got is stiff and doesn't flake, but you've got a spare one without felt you could use that or plastic tubing cut a slip. You could just wipe it down with a damp sponge it doesn't matter if it's damp happy cleaning@@LetsCleanaRecord
Great video. Very informative. Thank you.
I have one of the original ones…I use it quite often.
This machine is a tank and works well. You can get by with less cleaning on most records and I’m sure we all know that. AIVS #6 is great for new records and previously cleaned records. #15 and a double rinse is how I deal with grungier ones. I do have one of the affordable ultrasonic machines but it is a longer process to set up so I tend to not use it as regularly. It has given notable improvements in sound quality, but it has limited results on pops and clicks in my experience, and it will not cure a damaged record obviously.
Love AIVS. #15 is a top go to.
Hi again! I tried to acquire a pair of Walker Prelude brushes but everywhere I look it says discontinued. Is there an online store that still sells them?
Oh geez, I'm seeing the same thing. If I find a source, I'll let you know.
Ok. I shall appreciate your help.
I have the VPI Cyclone and other cleaning machines. I clean the cork with a small vacuum cleaner with brush that I bought and use only for this purpose. Do not wet the cork as it will be damamaged.I use the VPI mostly for records purchased second hand and my old records. New records go to the ultrasonic machine for 4 minutes. For very dirty records I use Tergikleen with the Spin Clean system (but not the Spin Clean fluid), wash it with distilled water spray, then to the ultrasonic. After a record, new or old, has been through the ultrasonic once I use the VPI for maintenance if needed. I try not to to use the utrasonic on a record more than once.
Thanks for the suggestion re the cork and thanks for watching!
Good video. I have currently have a Record Doctor VI that I use but it always bugged me that I can’t change the nozzle brush before a water rinse. I am thinking of getting a HumminGuru soon. That way I can use the record doctor with a cleaning fluid then ultrasonic the record with distilled water for a rinse and further clean.
I've never used an RCM but I'm sick of static. I've heard that wet cleaning vinyl removes the static. How good do they work for this purpose?
Some suggest using a suction-type machine can actually introduce static and will go so far as to limit the number of revolutions under the wand so as to not build up static. I argue we should do whatever is necessary to fully clean the vinyl and deal with static separately. If you're in a dry climate or have synthetic carpeted floors it is inevitable you'll deal with static electricity. You can try grounding devices to minimize the transfer when cleaning and/or playing records, but a more effective practice is to use a Zerostat. Alternatively, the Kirmuss restoration process utilizes a spray-on compound and goat hair brush as the last step in the process, specifically to address static. It is incredibly effective. In fact, the entire Kirmuss approach is all about controlling static to aid in the cleaning process. Meaning, to render the static charge on the vinyl opposite to that in the ultrasonic tank. It's time consuming but extremely effective. Whether you clean with the Kirmuss process or just use the compound/brush to address static, it may be worth a look, but the Zerostat is probably your best bet as a starting point. Thanks for watching!
Thank you
I have the same model machine but mine doesn't have the fan grille on the side. Why is that?
Not sure, but I do know that VPI will alter how they build a particular model depending on the availability of parts.
I'm using La Art Du Son but mine just doesn't create that many suds regardless of how much scrubbin i do. What strength or dilution ratio do you use when you mix it with water?
Sorry to bother you. What enzymatic record cleaning fluid do you use? Do you use it on your VPI?
For a pure enzymatic soak, I use AIVS (Audio Intelligence Vinyl Solutions). Available here through Elusive disc: elusivedisc.com/audio-intelligent-vinyl-solutions-enzymatic-record-cleaning-fluid-16-ounces/
I also like AIVS #15, which is a mix of enzymatic formula and RCF. I use it when cleaning older records that may or may not have gone through a pure enzymatic soak. Always on the VPI suction type machine.
Thanks for your help and guidance@@LetsCleanaRecord
How long is the warranty for, and how long you had your
s?
1 year manufacturer warranty on motor. 2 year manufacturer warranty on machine. We had ours for about 5 years.
Impressed by the amount of effort. My record cleaning is a lot more basic. I am puzzled by the fact that you do not seem to clean the cork platter. Inevitably, you must be placing dirty side 2 down on the cork, resulting in some transfer of dirt and oils from side 2 to the cork, then you are placing just cleaned side two down on the cork. I know that the grooved on side 1 won't actually touch the cork and probably very little dirt and oils transfers to the cork from a single cleaning, but if you never clean the cork, doesn't it becomes sufficiently contaminated to be a concern after a substantial number of dirty side 2s have been placed on it? Happy to be told no, as I am no expert, but you seem so meticulous, the lack of attention to cleaning the cork surprised me.
May I ask, how do you clean the cork platter and how often do you do so? You have me intrigued! I admit, all I've done is occasionally use the Giotto to blow off any dust or loose particles from the cork.
Allways speaks with plural grammar, but I only see one person on film.
My lovely wife Charlie does all the heavy lifting with our little channel. I just show up and clean the records...
you want to be careful sonic machine don't use it more than twice or three times on a record, you should mark your record on the label with a dot and write it inside the cover. if its done six or seven times it is shown to dull the sound of the record. more tests need to be done and the machines themselves.
Get yourself a goat's hair paint pad, a lot better than those silly brushes they don't do nothing just surface clean.
Why didn't you wash the cork mate you should have done before washing the record and when you flip it
Thanks for the comment. I have recently begun using goat hair brushed in combination with an US cleaning, but haven't used them with the VPI. Regarding the cork, how do you clean it?
What do you mean how can you clean it? the same you would clean a record why not? The vacuum stork will reach it won't it@@LetsCleanaRecord
Oh I see. I'm not sure I want the strips on my wands dragged over cork! It also seems odd to me to get the cork wet, much less with record cleaning fluid. I generally just hit the cork with a Giotto blaster to blow off any particles. @@jedi-mic
I don't know what cork you got most cork I've got is stiff and doesn't flake, but you've got a spare one without felt you could use that or plastic tubing cut a slip. You could just wipe it down with a damp sponge it doesn't matter if it's damp happy cleaning@@LetsCleanaRecord
@@LetsCleanaRecordI agree... do NOT wet cork! Lol