PSA : SPEAR AND SHIELD STAYS AT 8.1% SKILL POWER REGARDLESS OF UPGRADE UPDATE : Annihilation set vs Slayer set - Detailed Spear and Shield vs Iron Defense - Skill Power vs Skill Power Modifier th-cam.com/video/C7bo1MWi750/w-d-xo.htmlsi=L5Lsy-xNSPSkpgQC Time stamps 0:00 - Intro 0:20 - Reactors and External Components 1:20 - Regular Descendant Module Setup 2:34 - Spear and Shield vs Iron Defense damage comparison 3:21 - Solo Bossing Descendant Module Setup 3:42 - Mobbing Setup 4:28 - Spear and Shield vs Iron Defense damage comparison pt.2 5:05 - Python/Weapon of choice explanation 5:40 - Why no crit modules?! 5:50 - Python Modules 07:14 - Build Showcase (iykyk)
not gonna lie, this is by far the best gley build guide ive come by, has detailed indepth explaination, apart from the gley min max, this has a fairly budget weapon build, no unnecessary min maxing, has 3 variation of build, althought id say mobbing is not that important, but u only ever need gley for group bossing, solo bossing or annoying void reactor bosses (unless your bunny is fully decked out), overall great work mate, good job. + subbed
ive been grinding ult gley for the past two weeks so i keep checking yt for gley guides and havnt found any ive liked at all. i loved this one and right after seeing it i got my last part, thanks!
Dude thank you. Your video is exactly what I needed. I just finished the campaign and I've been looking for guides to build Gley up and this is awesome. Great vid!
I unlocked ultimate gley 2 days ago and have been waiting on a youtube guide i can follow to get the most out of my gley, ive watched loads of videos but this one wins it for me...best one out there thanks 🤝🏻
Bit late to the party after having fun with regular gley I've been looking at some guides like rocket spam and massacre and this one is by far the best guide for Ult Gley massacre duration Just researching ultimate gley now I can't wait to try it out ! Thank you !
I love this video so much! Felt like I was listening to a movie trailer the whole time I was watching. You deserve so many more subs and views! Good luck! leaving a sub for you!
Omg this really puts a smile on my face, thank you! But unfortunately the voice will be taking a vacation for now and will be replaced by a trainee. Me. 😄😄 but I will try to use him from time to time.
Thanks for detailed explanation! I always wanted to make Massacre build after watching that Japanese player gameplay but didn't understand Modules. So I was running Predators build. You made it more better, now I can make Masscre build too. TSM.
Best build, copied it exactly and can confirm it shreds! Out of all the Gley builds I have seen, this hands down is the best one. Very well explained, no nonsense video.
not understanding the complaints here the title says “bossing build” then the first couple secs is showing a boss this clearly isn’t for newer players it’s for ppl that can read
This build is awesome thanks for sharing it. missing the transcendent mod. farming for it today. I can definitely tell the difference in my character. I am also using a blue blood smg in the place of the python. It is working very well. Much appreciated content. 😊
W video thank you for the clarification since I have had others tell me to use spear and max it but it’s second trait literally doesn’t move up when upgraded . Thank you so much you’ve earned a sub
Great vid man. Eerie how similar my build is to yours, even down to using iron defense for bossing setup and spear/shield for mobbing setup.. I guess all gley enthusiasts come to similar conclusions given enough time spent grinding/optimizing.
@@evenquote this is the best that I can come up with, can further increase the damage by a fair amount but would need to wait .7s between increased sensory. Not sure if it's worth it.
@@Vergos240I assume you mean doing this by using skill simplification instead of focus on dimension for your bossing build? I was able to do it, but I had to get a reactor with skill duration up and skill CD. Definitely worth it if you can luck up on that reactor.
@@evenquote that's what I was gonna go far but the damn reactors wont just give me the time of the day with the rolls. Do you need gold rolls for that?
@@Vergos240 Yea the grind can be brutal, I somehow lucked out on getting this reactor for Tcage and python really quick. I think you need gold roll on skill CD, but duration can be purple. I can loop massacre smoothly with that setup. The mission “heavy machine entry path” in miragestone on Agna desert is in rotation is and pretty good to drop alot of gold materialized phase reactors. I got mine for python yesterday running it for only about 45 min.
I think it is situational depending on what module you are using based on my testing. Because you use Maximize Duration which you get -20% skill power modifier, you compensated with Iron Defence. This makes sense to choose Iron Defence instead of Spear and Shield. If you take the Maximize Duration out without loosing skill power modifier, it is better to use Spear and Shield. Instead, use An Outstanding Investment (+20% duration so loose 20% compare to maximize duration) but will still be 100% uptime (8.3 duration instead of 8.8).
8.3 seconds duration vs 9.3 seconds actually. It all boils down to personal preference. If you're trying to kill a boss in 1-2 mags trust me that 1 second difference matters because of the ramp up time from sharp precision shot. But yes both variations works for day to day usage.
I will definitely try to add this in future contents! It's easy to transition from this to a rocket build. I will reply to this comment again once I am able to get in game and give you some ideas.
Not a 100% sure but from what i seen, mod that say skill power "Modifier" is an ADDED to the base dmg stat, and the one that doesn't say "MODIFIER" is adding the multiplicate of %# times the base dmg. So if is a low base dmg skill, modifier is better and if is a high dmg base skill, the one that Don't say "modifier" is better.
Correct! Skill power % is for your raw skill power. Raw skill power is number that you see on your character screen on the lower right together with your hp and def. While skill power modifier % adds to that number that you see in the skill tool tip. To put it simply Skill power x Skill power modifier.
Running the numbers I think you can edge out even more on gley without using focus on dimension but it requires an almost perfect role reactor with skill cooldown and duration and the annihilation set letting you slot in skill simplification over focus on dimension the best roles being atleeast 10% duration and 7.3% or 7.4% cooldown
@@jacobhowton9160 bro! Right on the money! skill simplification and perfect reactor with cd and skill duration will work. But i think the added dmg from skill simplification will be mitigated if we change from slayer to annihilation. I am on the process of gettinf a reactor but no luck at all. The rng this week barely gives any reactor with python mounting. Do you have a reactor with cd/skill duration?
@@jacobhowton9160 I have the rolls too. Just not together god damn it. I'll test the damage difference now I'll worry about the cooldown/duration later when I get them in the same reactor. But yes a perfect gold cd/skill duration results to a 9.8s duration and 9.8s cd that can accommodate skill simplification.
@@matthewpidhirney4833 if this is the comparison between iron defense vs spear and shield. Iron Defense gets 12.7% skill power modifier when fully upgraded Spear and Shield stays at 8.1% Skill Power regardless if you upgraded it or not.
Man, your build breakdown and showcase it’s so pleasant to watch. I would like to see the comparison between reactor with bonus atk vs colossus and the one with skill attribute, yesterday I got a double yellow with cooldown + non-atributte skill boost. Would like to know if it worths to keep breaking my head trying to get the double yellow with cooldown + bonus atk vs colossus
@@MartinoJJ will definitely include this one on the next video. But I do have a thunder cage reactor with cooldown/atk vs colossus rolls and the massacre damage is definitely higher with it but sadly i prefer using the python, so I am in the process of acquiring one for my python but no luck yet 😆😆
No need brother. I'll explain it to you here. While dangerous ambush does give higher skill power this only tops walk a tight rope ONLY WHEN the boss is knocked down. Which only happens 2-3x a fight for a few seconds. Even when the boss is not targeting you. Walk a tight rope still gives better damage. Walk a tight rope though not only increase your skill power but also increase your firearm attack. And this buff will almost always be up the entire duration of the fight because even if you like it or not you will almost always be under 50% health. Just at the start of the fight when you Q->C->Z->V this ritual already puts you below 50% and even when you die going back to massacre will always put you below 50%. The only time that I think dangerous ambush is a good option is WHEN you party with a Yujin that is constantly healing the party.
I've already finished changing every socket with Catalysts and after 100+ runs of Battery mission I still can't get my hands on Walk a Tightrope mod... 😢
I cant figure out what I'm doing wrong with Pyro cuz I can take him down all the way to the last bit of health and then he goes immune everytime before I can finish him.
First you need to down him without filling the frenzy meter, when he gets knock down, make sure to squeeze in every bit of dps on your first increase sensory cast be very careful not to drop out of massacre though, 2nd cast of increase sensory keep dpsing him until he is almost up and stop dpsing for a split second to wait for him to summon the starfish mobs and with some luck he will do 1 more attack even when his frenzy meter is filled - in that amount of time you should be able to finish him. Make sure not to get hit by the ads too cause they stagger. Make sure you are hitting weak points to maximize damage.
Gley is decent, although it varies from farming spot and mob type/resistances. Bunny doesnt care about that. If you don't want to switch that's fine, mobbing with gley works well. But bunny just does it faster on different spots.
Hey man! Thanks so much for the video. I have a quick question thou. For the solo build, The slayer set adds additional skill cost which means you take more damage when activating skills. Higher HP could help with this a bit. if i wanted to keep Stim Accelerant on instead of battle of stamina would that be ok?
hi! in your previous video u were using something like mo accelerant instead of maximize duration. Does the -21% skill power modifier on that module hurt the damage of the build? Thx 4 the answer I love your vids!
@@ilonafrkalova1809 Ah yes. It was because I didnt have the proper modules back then. That extra duration for increased sensory even if it's just a second extra when Sharp Shot Focus is at full stacks actually more than makes up for that -21% skill modifier maybe even more. Tested this when going for the 15s pyro kill. That extra 1 second on the solo run setup made a huge difference haha.
actually it varies from skill to skill. if a skill has low base skill power modifier go for iron defense, if it has a high base high modifier go for raw skill power. check both comparison for pt.1 and pt.2 use the time stamps in description.
Yes. it has to be Python unfortunately. If you are using Python. The reactor must match the weapon that you're using. Otherwise you are missing on a lot dps.
Best thing on the video is using pyro boss to showcase the dmg.. love it ❤ But have a question to that. Is it a huge dmg lost if i use hp collector instead of spear and shield/iron defense?
In theory it should work but the main reason why we go for Python is because of fire rate right, gley has unlimited ammo, so more fire rate means more damage from gley's ult. As for freyna I believe her ult has limited ammo, so I think going for a gun that takes advantage of her abilities or element like say the fallen hope and this is just a theory craft but a fully upgraded secret garden seems like a solid choice too. I'm actually looking forward to the ultimate freyna version.
@@timbobreschow3045 i tested this with an Enzo before. It was like damn! No words brother. The damage just takes off if you pair it with support characters. I can only imagine the damage buff with a support sharen.
Spear and shield is better than iron defence the demonstration you showed didn’t show gley at Lower hp where her skill power modifier increases when her hp is lower stacking more power modifier will just lead to diminishing returns
My god. I should've included the lowest possible HP and yes i've tested this too. But brother Iron Defense still wins even at the lowest HP possible. Why? because massacre has a very low base skill power modifier. Not to worry I will include this in the next video. Sorry for that. Still testing this extensively with different module combinations while keeping 100% increased sensory duration but for now this is what I have.
@@dodoelloco3562 You have all the other modules too? Make sure you have all the other modules because if you are missing one even with multitalented you will still have higher cooldown. Also multitalented works differently with differently skills. If you use it with dimension like massive sang, you will get reduced cooldown for 5s, if you use with singular like gley's 3rd, you will get additional damage. And only 1 buff can and will stay active for 5seconds. Try to use frenzy and wait for 5 seconds before you use massive sang. You can also check which buff is active by the icons beside your character. I've just tested this now and it works.
@@DailyBrainBreak python will pale in comparison to greg's when it comes to raw damage. Greg has better damage as a weapon alone. But you won't be able to use greg's for massacre. Massacre only takes in the weapon's atk, fire rate, crit dmg, weak point dmg but no it's unique effect. So if you use greg's for massacre you won't get the machine like fire rate like in the video and no bombardment effect.
@@Zerefk9 yes normal gley will work. Non if the descendant modules are ultimate gley exclusive so I believe it will work with normal Gley. Although you might get lower hp or defense but shouldnt be that much.
@@SAFBLight sure thing! I am already working on it for different weapons, the only annoying part is that they need to be maxed out and I still don't have the bloody shot focus module. Once, I get my hands on it. I'll get it done.
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear spear and shield skill power % doesnt change even when it's fully upgraded. It stays at 8.1%. I forgot to include that my bad. Although skill power % and skill power modifier % effect varies from skill to skill. I will be doing a video explanation for this in the next following days.
yes it does. I was after the extra 1s duration for when soloing bosses, you can run with outstanding investment if you prefer that, still gives you 100% uptime.
I saw your other comment about weapons and stuff for massacre, I just can't find it somewhere so I will answer your here. Massacre does not take in effect the weapon's unique ability only fire rate and raw damage provided by modules. The only reason why I chose python is because of it's really high fire rate, this build's bulk damage comes from Massacre. So more fire rate = more damage
@@SeanDiamondex 1 second difference duration for increased sensory if i'm not mistaken. Ideally, if you are trying to pull off some try hard stuff like a 6-7s devourer or 15second pyro kill then the extra duration is really helpful. Since that extra second is really good with sharp precision. On the other hand if you just wanna chill in group play and not worry much about dps then either of them will work.
@@cloudskyline4587 agree! But it depends on how you play it too or your team mates. I can use massacre comfortably in group play up to fortress. I don't recommend it for gluttony though.
@@desmondmiles2817 if you look at the numbers during the pyromaniac run. The lower dmg in yellow that is your weapon damage, high number in white is your skill atk damage. Annihilation only works for weapon damage and slayer works for skill atk damage. Skill atk damage is higher so using slayer to further improve that is better than using annihilation set to improve the lower number.
@@blackkat101 Guys I tested this in lab, I noticed that skill power doesn't have much impact. What are those red numbers? And also the massacre last skill says that special weapon will have same damage as that of your inventory weapon. So when I increased my inventory weapon damage the special weapon damage also got increased. So annihilation also increases damage of weapon right?
@@blackkat101 I am just confused how 60% is skill power, the special weapon has same damage as my weapon. I am using thunder cage as I don't have python. One more question, when you hit any Colossus how much red damage do you guys can attain ?
@@desmondmiles2817 Weapons account for about 30% of the total damage delt when using Massacre. So yes, Annihilation will still give a buff. Though also note that you do not get Annihilation 's full buff unless at 0.01% HP.... Skill Power is your largest boost you can get with Massacre through multipliers. Note that because of how Massacre works, Fire Rate of the weapon is also the most important stat that the gun is sharing. Which is why the Python, with its 923 base Fire Rate and abilities to use an Ultimate Reactor for more skill multipliers, is the best weapon to use.
There are a few things on your build that are just throwing me off and having me scratch my head.. One, I’m trying to figure out why you are using the Slayer set over the Annihilation set. Secondly, Why a purple cool down over Gold. Other than that. The only difference, I’m seeing between Iron Defence and Spear and Shield is that ID Is a Skill Power Modifier and S&S is Skill Power. But since you also speck into Focus on Dimension which is a Skill power Modifier, so yea it would go hand in hand. But both iron Defence and focus on dimension is not needed IMO. Personally I would replace Iron Defence with Soear and shield and Stim Accelerant with increase HP and Focous on Dimension with Skill simplification. For reactor best in slot for bosses if you are using the python, would be skill, cool down and additional ATK to colossal, otherwise if using the Thunder Cage, skill cooldown & skill duration up, or you can also have one of the two stats just mentioned with ATK to colossal. And use the annihilation set. I mean it’s literally made for Glay, especially if you’re using Walk A Tight Rope and Massive Sangufication. It’s a no brainer. But to each their own. Your build, is still a very good build and since I also have the mods and the gear set, that you use, I can give it a try and who knows I might be in for a surprise. Anyways, Good Video. Keep an eye out for me on your next video. As I should have my feedback results by then.
Any feedback is well appreciated brother! Like you said this is my version of the build and I'm not claiming that this is the best out there. I always love to hear about others' experience and setup with the hopes of finding something better. To answer some of this though, Slayer over annihilation is because, this build focuses more on skill atk damage via massacre(70, 948 per hit) , not the weapon damage(26,444 per hit). Slayer adds more skill power, annihilation adds more firearm atk damage. If you look at the damage showcase the skill attack via massacre is more than double the amount of the weapon damage(check yellow damage, weak point damage) furthermore, during fights, especially longer boss fights, the way bosses turn around like a ballerina, in the case of this build you won't be hitting weak points 100% of the time but skill damage still do the same whether you are hitting a weak point or not, this mostly for random encounters of course. Although, I completely agree that if we use a thundercage annihilation set is the way to go. Also I said, get at at least a purple cd roll, not purple over gold. Also I did say skill cd/skill atk vs colossus is BiS for this setup. Yes, a min/max video is upcoming including everything that you've said annihilation set, skill simplification etc etc. My current testing still shows that my current setup yields better dps. However I don't want to release this yet without exploring every possible option. I fell in love with Gley's gameplay, that's why I'm trying every possible way to maximize the damage.
Feedback is always appreciated brother. If there is something that you'll change out of this, please do tell. It is only a build out of several others are out there which almost have the same components. In the end it all boils down on how you play the character itself. This works for me so.
EDIT - I believe the build will work for normal Gley as well. Tbh the only difference between normal and ultimate descendants are some Transcendent modules that are exclusive to ultimates(massive sanguification is available to both gley and ultimate gley) and a little bit better base stats, health/def maybe? The catch though is progress on normal descendants don't carry over to ultimates. and Ultimate Gley can run while using her 3rd skill while shooting - don't know if this is intended. bro, guilty as charged I bought ultimate bunny. With Ultimate Gley though, I don't know how to put this, I just wanted catalyst blue prints at 20% chance, piercing light stuff at 32% chance, python stuff at 32% chance etc etc at 20-32% chance. And lo and behold i keep getting these ultimate descendants parts, I even have a surplus of parts for ultimate gley to make another one. I only need ultimate lepic code to make him and I was not even hunting for this guy. One thing that I've noticed about this game is that it gives what you don't want/need but rarely gives you what you are actually hunting. You'll get there. Then again, i'm on long service leave so I do have some spare time 😆😆.
All this is pointless if you need to spend your entire life to farm just to get the phyton and the ultimate gley. The drop rate is so horrible. Spent 2 days and still haven't got a piece of gley.
If you are level 1 and rank 1 just stick with bunny or the initial descendant you picked, upgrade hp and def modules for descendant (they are useful for survival and at long run they are useful). Also I would recommend to use activators and catalysts in the weapons (Thundercage is a really safe option con use it for bossing or mobbing) and with that you should be able to get to hard mode. Hope this comment help you.
@@tlyoungb sorry mate this wasnt intended for players who just started the game. I recommend finishing the story first. After finishing the story you'll get 2x free energy activators. Bunny is a good starting descendant as cuzzwhynot said. Invest in her and it'll make your life easier once you start farming for guns and more descendants.
@@CuzzWhyN0t Thanks for the reply. Activators and Catalyst? What are those? and where do you get them and apply to a weapon? That's the problem i am having. All these videos are like from people that are higher level. That one gun on this video had a DSP of 97,000 and my gosh all the modes he was putting on his descendant 97 slot value? Holy cow.. This video is totally not for the new person just starting out. I don't even have the items he is putting on his descendant.
@tlyoungb an energy activator and energy catalyst are 2 of the most important materials in the game, do not waste them on a descendant or gun unless you truly love that descendant as they're extremely valuable and hard to get... you're able to farm them after you finish the story, i recommend leveling and building your bunny she'll help you get through the story easily
@@tlyoungbonce you're done with the story mode, then you unlock hard mode and are able to farm ultimate descendants, those you can focus all your resources on...finish the story firstly mate
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PSA : SPEAR AND SHIELD STAYS AT 8.1% SKILL POWER REGARDLESS OF UPGRADE
UPDATE :
Annihilation set vs Slayer set - Detailed Spear and Shield vs Iron Defense - Skill Power vs Skill Power Modifier
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Time stamps
0:00 - Intro
0:20 - Reactors and External Components
1:20 - Regular Descendant Module Setup
2:34 - Spear and Shield vs Iron Defense damage comparison
3:21 - Solo Bossing Descendant Module Setup
3:42 - Mobbing Setup
4:28 - Spear and Shield vs Iron Defense damage comparison pt.2
5:05 - Python/Weapon of choice explanation
5:40 - Why no crit modules?!
5:50 - Python Modules
07:14 - Build Showcase (iykyk)
Just finished building all of this on my Gley and man is it so much fun . Thank you !
not gonna lie, this is by far the best gley build guide ive come by, has detailed indepth explaination, apart from the gley min max, this has a fairly budget weapon build, no unnecessary min maxing, has 3 variation of build, althought id say mobbing is not that important, but u only ever need gley for group bossing, solo bossing or annoying void reactor bosses (unless your bunny is fully decked out), overall great work mate, good job. + subbed
Thanks a bunch brother! Appreciate it!
I just got my Ultimate Gley today, and from all the videos i did see, yours was the most useful, thank you.
No blabla, this helps me a lot. Just thank you
Glad it did brother!
ive been grinding ult gley for the past two weeks so i keep checking yt for gley guides and havnt found any ive liked at all. i loved this one and right after seeing it i got my last part, thanks!
Dude thank you. Your video is exactly what I needed. I just finished the campaign and I've been looking for guides to build Gley up and this is awesome. Great vid!
I unlocked ultimate gley 2 days ago and have been waiting on a youtube guide i can follow to get the most out of my gley, ive watched loads of videos but this one wins it for me...best one out there thanks 🤝🏻
@@LucianoSmerrosy glad it helped.
Bit late to the party
after having fun with regular gley I've been looking at some guides like rocket spam and massacre and this one is by far the best guide for Ult Gley massacre duration
Just researching ultimate gley now I can't wait to try it out !
Thank you !
I love this video so much! Felt like I was listening to a movie trailer the whole time I was watching. You deserve so many more subs and views! Good luck! leaving a sub for you!
Omg this really puts a smile on my face, thank you! But unfortunately the voice will be taking a vacation for now and will be replaced by a trainee. Me. 😄😄 but I will try to use him from time to time.
@@Vergos240 good stuff! Still great stuff!
man I love that narrators voice XD. Great video!
Bro that pyromaniac 15s kill was hot!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for detailed explanation! I always wanted to make Massacre build after watching that Japanese player gameplay but didn't understand Modules. So I was running Predators build. You made it more better, now I can make Masscre build too. TSM.
Beautiful video. My Ulti. Gley will be finished soon and this is what I'm going to strive for. Just gotta get those catalysts and maxed mods
Thanks bud it's so helpful to see that u really know what u doing
Best build, copied it exactly and can confirm it shreds! Out of all the Gley builds I have seen, this hands down is the best one. Very well explained, no nonsense video.
not understanding the complaints here the title says “bossing build” then the first couple secs is showing a boss this clearly isn’t for newer players it’s for ppl that can read
Almost felt like listening to Boba Fett, giving a Gley tutorial. 😮💯⚡
great video bud, keep up the good work
This build is awesome thanks for sharing it. missing the transcendent mod. farming for it today. I can definitely tell the difference in my character. I am also using a blue blood smg in the place of the python. It is working very well. Much appreciated content. 😊
W video thank you for the clarification since I have had others tell me to use spear and max it but it’s second trait literally doesn’t move up when upgraded . Thank you so much you’ve earned a sub
Great vid man. Eerie how similar my build is to yours, even down to using iron defense for bossing setup and spear/shield for mobbing setup.. I guess all gley enthusiasts come to similar conclusions given enough time spent grinding/optimizing.
@@evenquote this is the best that I can come up with, can further increase the damage by a fair amount but would need to wait .7s between increased sensory. Not sure if it's worth it.
@@Vergos240I assume you mean doing this by using skill simplification instead of focus on dimension for your bossing build? I was able to do it, but I had to get a reactor with skill duration up and skill CD. Definitely worth it if you can luck up on that reactor.
@@evenquote that's what I was gonna go far but the damn reactors wont just give me the time of the day with the rolls. Do you need gold rolls for that?
@@Vergos240 Yea the grind can be brutal, I somehow lucked out on getting this reactor for Tcage and python really quick. I think you need gold roll on skill CD, but duration can be purple. I can loop massacre smoothly with that setup. The mission “heavy machine entry path” in miragestone on Agna desert is in rotation is and pretty good to drop alot of gold materialized phase reactors. I got mine for python yesterday running it for only about 45 min.
Perfect!!! Thank you
I think it is situational depending on what module you are using based on my testing. Because you use Maximize Duration which you get -20% skill power modifier, you compensated with Iron Defence. This makes sense to choose Iron Defence instead of Spear and Shield. If you take the Maximize Duration out without loosing skill power modifier, it is better to use Spear and Shield. Instead, use An Outstanding Investment (+20% duration so loose 20% compare to maximize duration) but will still be 100% uptime (8.3 duration instead of 8.8).
8.3 seconds duration vs 9.3 seconds actually. It all boils down to personal preference. If you're trying to kill a boss in 1-2 mags trust me that 1 second difference matters because of the ramp up time from sharp precision shot. But yes both variations works for day to day usage.
Good content i love the humor as well my guy i would love to see a rocket build gley if you have one
I will definitely try to add this in future contents! It's easy to transition from this to a rocket build. I will reply to this comment again once I am able to get in game and give you some ideas.
@@Vergos240 appreciated
Not a 100% sure but from what i seen, mod that say skill power "Modifier" is an ADDED to the base dmg stat, and the one that doesn't say "MODIFIER" is adding the multiplicate of %# times the base dmg. So if is a low base dmg skill, modifier is better and if is a high dmg base skill, the one that Don't say "modifier" is better.
Correct! Skill power % is for your raw skill power. Raw skill power is number that you see on your character screen on the lower right together with your hp and def. While skill power modifier % adds to that number that you see in the skill tool tip. To put it simply Skill power x Skill power modifier.
Running the numbers I think you can edge out even more on gley without using focus on dimension but it requires an almost perfect role reactor with skill cooldown and duration and the annihilation set letting you slot in skill simplification over focus on dimension the best roles being atleeast 10% duration and 7.3% or 7.4% cooldown
@@jacobhowton9160 bro! Right on the money! skill simplification and perfect reactor with cd and skill duration will work. But i think the added dmg from skill simplification will be mitigated if we change from slayer to annihilation. I am on the process of gettinf a reactor but no luck at all. The rng this week barely gives any reactor with python mounting.
Do you have a reactor with cd/skill duration?
@@Vergos240 I ended up with gild skill cd but not even 1 with skill duration and skill cd
@@jacobhowton9160 I have the rolls too. Just not together god damn it. I'll test the damage difference now I'll worry about the cooldown/duration later when I get them in the same reactor.
But yes a perfect gold cd/skill duration results to a 9.8s duration and 9.8s cd that can accommodate skill simplification.
CD + colossus atk wins over the perfect cd/duration skill simplification setup at the lowest hp possible. Although not by much.
@@Vergos240 So far CD + Colossus ATK + This video's descendant modules, is the best you've got so far?
Love gley she also has a super sick farming build as well hoping you can cover that 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@ban6456 3:42 did I miss something or it wasn't explained enough? Let me know. Thanks!
@@Vergos240 oh crud mb classes starts in a bit so my brains turned off for the time being haha. Awesome video tho still
I’m a little confused when you showed the mod comparison between a fully upgraded mod to one that had nothing put in to it
@@matthewpidhirney4833 if this is the comparison between iron defense vs spear and shield.
Iron Defense gets 12.7% skill power modifier when fully upgraded
Spear and Shield stays at 8.1% Skill Power regardless if you upgraded it or not.
@@Vergos240 thanks for the reply just found your channel and your content is very good thank you 👍🏼
@@Vergos240man that sux, which I noticed another module that does that is battle of stamina, the skill duration stays at +8.8%.
Man, your build breakdown and showcase it’s so pleasant to watch. I would like to see the comparison between reactor with bonus atk vs colossus and the one with skill attribute, yesterday I got a double yellow with cooldown + non-atributte skill boost.
Would like to know if it worths to keep breaking my head trying to get the double yellow with cooldown + bonus atk vs colossus
@@MartinoJJ will definitely include this one on the next video. But I do have a thunder cage reactor with cooldown/atk vs colossus rolls and the massacre damage is definitely higher with it but sadly i prefer using the python, so I am in the process of acquiring one for my python but no luck yet 😆😆
How they let you play in the church?
can you do a guide comparing dangerous ambush and walk a tightrope?
No need brother. I'll explain it to you here.
While dangerous ambush does give higher skill power this only tops walk a tight rope ONLY WHEN the boss is knocked down. Which only happens 2-3x a fight for a few seconds. Even when the boss is not targeting you. Walk a tight rope still gives better damage.
Walk a tight rope though not only increase your skill power but also increase your firearm attack. And this buff will almost always be up the entire duration of the fight because even if you like it or not you will almost always be under 50% health. Just at the start of the fight when you Q->C->Z->V this ritual already puts you below 50% and even when you die going back to massacre will always put you below 50%.
The only time that I think dangerous ambush is a good option is WHEN you party with a Yujin that is constantly healing the party.
so its best to play walk a tight rope if you wanna do solos and dangerous ambush when playing with a team
@@justcap6210 dangerous ambush only with Yujin. Otherwise solo or group walk a tight rope still.
Stim accel or battle of stam? Great video btw super baller
@@Anthony-bh2cc battle for stamina I mostly use that for solo and stim accel when doing group play bosses.
@@Vergos240 ty good sir!
I've already finished changing every socket with Catalysts and after 100+ runs of Battery mission I still can't get my hands on Walk a Tightrope mod... 😢
@@Micromation man I did countless runs of that mission too..
@@Vergos240 Noooo, you were supposed to say "oh you can easily get it here and there every other run" T_T
@@Micromation hahha i wish there was another way.
I cant figure out what I'm doing wrong with Pyro cuz I can take him down all the way to the last bit of health and then he goes immune everytime before I can finish him.
First you need to down him without filling the frenzy meter, when he gets knock down, make sure to squeeze in every bit of dps on your first increase sensory cast be very careful not to drop out of massacre though, 2nd cast of increase sensory keep dpsing him until he is almost up and stop dpsing for a split second to wait for him to summon the starfish mobs and with some luck he will do 1 more attack even when his frenzy meter is filled - in that amount of time you should be able to finish him. Make sure not to get hit by the ads too cause they stagger. Make sure you are hitting weak points to maximize damage.
How is gley with mobbin overall, do you mob with gley or bunny? I dont like switching classes :( i like a 1 desedent do all
Gley is decent, although it varies from farming spot and mob type/resistances. Bunny doesnt care about that. If you don't want to switch that's fine, mobbing with gley works well. But bunny just does it faster on different spots.
Hey man! Thanks so much for the video. I have a quick question thou. For the solo build, The slayer set adds additional skill cost which means you take more damage when activating skills. Higher HP could help with this a bit. if i wanted to keep Stim Accelerant on instead of battle of stamina would that be ok?
That's fine. I just wanted more duration on the solo bossing setup since I wanted to finish the boss in 2 rotations of increased sensory.
@@Vergos240 Perfect. Thank you!
Fun tip: if you use Gley 2 then when you when the damage numbers use her 1 you’ll do damage and heal yourself 😘
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear I did not know that! Seems like I still have a lot to learn about Gley! Thanks brother!
Please elaborate, to be honest i couldn't understand you.
i know than if u use Gley2 in normal form you recover HP, but i didnt see do damage.
@@javar5847 You have to be in Frenzy then use your 2 then when you see the damage numbers quickly go out of frenzy you’ll do damage and heal yourself
Thought the description of that ability was self explanatory 😸
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear ohh i got it now, thanks
hi! in your previous video u were using something like mo accelerant instead of maximize duration. Does the -21% skill power modifier on that module hurt the damage of the build? Thx 4 the answer I love your vids!
*mp accelerant
@@ilonafrkalova1809 Ah yes. It was because I didnt have the proper modules back then. That extra duration for increased sensory even if it's just a second extra when Sharp Shot Focus is at full stacks actually more than makes up for that -21% skill modifier maybe even more. Tested this when going for the 15s pyro kill. That extra 1 second on the solo run setup made a huge difference haha.
@@Vergos240 thanks for the answer! i will change it
Wait am I dumb didn’t spear and shield hit harder with 97,050 vs iron defense hitting 95,116 ?
actually it varies from skill to skill. if a skill has low base skill power modifier go for iron defense, if it has a high base high modifier go for raw skill power. check both comparison for pt.1 and pt.2 use the time stamps in description.
Ohhhh okay I see thank you awesome build my g
Does it have to be python mounting? I got a perfect gold lines but its with Fallen Hope mounting.
Yes. it has to be Python unfortunately. If you are using Python. The reactor must match the weapon that you're using. Otherwise you are missing on a lot dps.
@@Vergos240 Got it!
Best thing on the video is using pyro boss to showcase the dmg.. love it ❤
But have a question to that. Is it a huge dmg lost if i use hp collector instead of spear and shield/iron defense?
@@arcanebeast4661 not huge but definitely noticeable.
can the python build be good for freyna too? or she has a different concept for python?
In theory it should work but the main reason why we go for Python is because of fire rate right, gley has unlimited ammo, so more fire rate means more damage from gley's ult. As for freyna I believe her ult has limited ammo, so I think going for a gun that takes advantage of her abilities or element like say the fallen hope and this is just a theory craft but a fully upgraded secret garden seems like a solid choice too.
I'm actually looking forward to the ultimate freyna version.
Has anyone tested running this setup with a "Support Sharen" + Nazeistras Devotion to lower the DEF of Bosses?
@@timbobreschow3045 i tested this with an Enzo before. It was like damn! No words brother. The damage just takes off if you pair it with support characters. I can only imagine the damage buff with a support sharen.
Spear and shield is better than iron defence the demonstration you showed didn’t show gley at Lower hp where her skill power modifier increases when her hp is lower stacking more power modifier will just lead to diminishing returns
My god. I should've included the lowest possible HP and yes i've tested this too. But brother Iron Defense still wins even at the lowest HP possible. Why? because massacre has a very low base skill power modifier. Not to worry I will include this in the next video. Sorry for that. Still testing this extensively with different module combinations while keeping 100% increased sensory duration but for now this is what I have.
@@Vergos240 hmm good to know 👍 thank you for the reply I’ll be looking forward to the next video
@@little_error295 an honest feedback will always be appreciated. Thanks brotha!
Please build for gluttony
@@321Critico on the process of this now.
how do you still have massive sanguification to activate?
@@dodoelloco3562 use massive sanguification transcendant module.
@@Vergos240 yes yes I have it but I can spam it every 10 seconds not every 1 second xD
@@dodoelloco3562 ahhh! You mean for mobbing/farming? Check 3:42
@@Vergos240 yes yes me with multitalented it doesn't work
T-T
@@dodoelloco3562 You have all the other modules too? Make sure you have all the other modules because if you are missing one even with multitalented you will still have higher cooldown.
Also multitalented works differently with differently skills. If you use it with dimension like massive sang, you will get reduced cooldown for 5s, if you use with singular like gley's 3rd, you will get additional damage. And only 1 buff can and will stay active for 5seconds. Try to use frenzy and wait for 5 seconds before you use massive sang. You can also check which buff is active by the icons beside your character.
I've just tested this now and it works.
I imagine the Ultimate Version have boosted stats cause I have a similar solo mob/boss build all maxed out modules and i don’t have that much HP 😢
@@metalchu check your external components too. There's a difference on the base stats but I don't think the difference is huge.
@@Vergos240 I will look into that I’ve noticed this week the components and reactors are kinda Gley based. Thanks 💪🏽
Can you do a comparison of python vs Greg's?
@@DailyBrainBreak python will pale in comparison to greg's when it comes to raw damage. Greg has better damage as a weapon alone. But you won't be able to use greg's for massacre. Massacre only takes in the weapon's atk, fire rate, crit dmg, weak point dmg but no it's unique effect. So if you use greg's for massacre you won't get the machine like fire rate like in the video and no bombardment effect.
Can I jus use normal Gley, would it rly be much different
@@Zerefk9 yes normal gley will work. Non if the descendant modules are ultimate gley exclusive so I believe it will work with normal Gley. Although you might get lower hp or defense but shouldnt be that much.
@@Vergos240 Kk blesss
How were you hitting 300k woth sanguin skill im getting like 97k
@@noreltv5894 depends on the mob type I guess. Some mobs I hit 250-300k. Some mobs 150k-200k.
Yeah i see now i just did a test legion of immortality and darkness have strong defense against it
can you make a build for non massacre bosser
@@SAFBLight sure thing! I am already working on it for different weapons, the only annoying part is that they need to be maxed out and I still don't have the bloody shot focus module. Once, I get my hands on it. I'll get it done.
Hey what colors do you use on your gley
@@kshirajpanchal4554 I really can't remember. I just randomly chose one that looked good 😄😄 i'll check again when I get the chance.
It's the bright matte grey color on the fourth slot of her outfit color options.
You used a fully upgraded Iron defense vs a not upgraded Spear and shield?
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear spear and shield skill power % doesnt change even when it's fully upgraded. It stays at 8.1%. I forgot to include that my bad.
Although skill power % and skill power modifier % effect varies from skill to skill. I will be doing a video explanation for this in the next following days.
@@Vergos240 look forward to the video
doesnt maximize duration lower the power of our massacre ?
yes it does. I was after the extra 1s duration for when soloing bosses, you can run with outstanding investment if you prefer that, still gives you 100% uptime.
I saw your other comment about weapons and stuff for massacre, I just can't find it somewhere so I will answer your here.
Massacre does not take in effect the weapon's unique ability only fire rate and raw damage provided by modules. The only reason why I chose python is because of it's really high fire rate, this build's bulk damage comes from Massacre. So more fire rate = more damage
@Vergos240 because after i wrote the comment i got the answer and deleted it thank you so much anyway
@Vergos240 thank you for clarafying i will try both 😁
2:48 I would have seen a fair comparison if both modules were maxed equally.
@@whiskeydark8011 spear and shield stays at 8.1% skill power regardless of upgrade
I try this later
what the 4 man run build ?
@@Steve-rb2nh only difference is solo run uses battle of stamina and 4 man run uses stim accelerant.
Iron defense is maxed out but not Spear.
once again. spear stays at 8.1% regardless of upgrade
Why not outstanding investment over maximise duration?
@@SeanDiamondex I prefer that extra duration. You can use outstanding investment if you want to. It will still work
@@Vergos240 thank you for your input! Is there a huge difference in damage between the 2 mods?
@@SeanDiamondex 1 second difference duration for increased sensory if i'm not mistaken. Ideally, if you are trying to pull off some try hard stuff like a 6-7s devourer or 15second pyro kill then the extra duration is really helpful. Since that extra second is really good with sharp precision. On the other hand if you just wanna chill in group play and not worry much about dps then either of them will work.
@@Vergos240 damn appreciate the info really helps🙏🏻
Phyton seems to be buged, I farmed the hard boss 36 times now and got 36 ult lepic ...
Can't get it
@@blumentorph they need to fix the rng. It's like that sometimes. Annoying bugger 😄😄
Massacre is good only for solo but group is bad
@@cloudskyline4587 agree! But it depends on how you play it too or your team mates. I can use massacre comfortably in group play up to fortress. I don't recommend it for gluttony though.
@@Vergos240 yeah I hope they make gluttony solo one day because I hate playing with randoms and constantly lose
Why Annihilation is not better than slayer ???????????
@@desmondmiles2817 if you look at the numbers during the pyromaniac run. The lower dmg in yellow that is your weapon damage, high number in white is your skill atk damage. Annihilation only works for weapon damage and slayer works for skill atk damage. Skill atk damage is higher so using slayer to further improve that is better than using annihilation set to improve the lower number.
60% of the damage you do while using Massacre comes from the skill, thus Skill Power is a much stronger buff over Firearm ATK.
@@blackkat101 Guys I tested this in lab, I noticed that skill power doesn't have much impact. What are those red numbers?
And also the massacre last skill says that special weapon will have same damage as that of your inventory weapon. So when I increased my inventory weapon damage the special weapon damage also got increased. So annihilation also increases damage of weapon right?
@@blackkat101 I am just confused how 60% is skill power, the special weapon has same damage as my weapon. I am using thunder cage as I don't have python.
One more question, when you hit any Colossus how much red damage do you guys can attain ?
@@desmondmiles2817 Weapons account for about 30% of the total damage delt when using Massacre. So yes, Annihilation will still give a buff. Though also note that you do not get Annihilation 's full buff unless at 0.01% HP....
Skill Power is your largest boost you can get with Massacre through multipliers.
Note that because of how Massacre works, Fire Rate of the weapon is also the most important stat that the gun is sharing. Which is why the Python, with its 923 base Fire Rate and abilities to use an Ultimate Reactor for more skill multipliers, is the best weapon to use.
There are a few things on your build that are just throwing me off and having me scratch my head.. One, I’m trying to figure out why you are using the Slayer set over the Annihilation set. Secondly, Why a purple cool down over Gold. Other than that.
The only difference, I’m seeing between Iron Defence and Spear and Shield is that ID Is a Skill Power Modifier and S&S is Skill Power. But since you also speck into Focus on Dimension which is a Skill power Modifier, so yea it would go hand in hand. But both iron Defence and focus on dimension is not needed IMO. Personally I would replace Iron Defence with Soear and shield and Stim Accelerant with increase HP and Focous on Dimension with Skill simplification. For reactor best in slot for bosses if you are using the python, would be skill, cool down and additional ATK to colossal, otherwise if using the Thunder Cage, skill cooldown & skill duration up, or you can also have one of the two stats just mentioned with ATK to colossal. And use the annihilation set. I mean it’s literally made for Glay, especially if you’re using Walk A Tight Rope and Massive Sangufication. It’s a no brainer. But to each their own. Your build, is still a very good build and since I also have the mods and the gear set, that you use, I can give it a try and who knows I might be in for a surprise. Anyways, Good Video. Keep an eye out for me on your next video. As I should have my feedback results by then.
Any feedback is well appreciated brother! Like you said this is my version of the build and I'm not claiming that this is the best out there. I always love to hear about others' experience and setup with the hopes of finding something better. To answer some of this though,
Slayer over annihilation is because, this build focuses more on skill atk damage via massacre(70, 948 per hit) , not the weapon damage(26,444 per hit). Slayer adds more skill power, annihilation adds more firearm atk damage. If you look at the damage showcase the skill attack via massacre is more than double the amount of the weapon damage(check yellow damage, weak point damage) furthermore, during fights, especially longer boss fights, the way bosses turn around like a ballerina, in the case of this build you won't be hitting weak points 100% of the time but skill damage still do the same whether you are hitting a weak point or not, this mostly for random encounters of course. Although, I completely agree that if we use a thundercage annihilation set is the way to go.
Also I said, get at at least a purple cd roll, not purple over gold. Also I did say skill cd/skill atk vs colossus is BiS for this setup. Yes, a min/max video is upcoming including everything that you've said annihilation set, skill simplification etc etc. My current testing still shows that my current setup yields better dps. However I don't want to release this yet without exploring every possible option. I fell in love with Gley's gameplay, that's why I'm trying every possible way to maximize the damage.
@@Vergos240 Love your reply. Looking forward to seeing more from you. You earned yourself a sub my friend.
People are going to be so disappointed when they try this build.
Feedback is always appreciated brother. If there is something that you'll change out of this, please do tell.
It is only a build out of several others are out there which almost have the same components. In the end it all boils down on how you play the character itself. This works for me so.
You people and your unlocking ultimate descendants. I ain't got the time or money.
EDIT - I believe the build will work for normal Gley as well. Tbh the only difference between normal and ultimate descendants are some Transcendent modules that are exclusive to ultimates(massive sanguification is available to both gley and ultimate gley) and a little bit better base stats, health/def maybe? The catch though is progress on normal descendants don't carry over to ultimates. and Ultimate Gley can run while using her 3rd skill while shooting - don't know if this is intended.
bro, guilty as charged I bought ultimate bunny. With Ultimate Gley though, I don't know how to put this, I just wanted catalyst blue prints at 20% chance, piercing light stuff at 32% chance, python stuff at 32% chance etc etc at 20-32% chance. And lo and behold i keep getting these ultimate descendants parts, I even have a surplus of parts for ultimate gley to make another one. I only need ultimate lepic code to make him and I was not even hunting for this guy.
One thing that I've noticed about this game is that it gives what you don't want/need but rarely gives you what you are actually hunting. You'll get there.
Then again, i'm on long service leave so I do have some spare time 😆😆.
All this is pointless if you need to spend your entire life to farm just to get the phyton and the ultimate gley. The drop rate is so horrible. Spent 2 days and still haven't got a piece of gley.
@@chanreth build works with a normal gley too btw. You'll just have lower base stats.
Yea this is all well and good if you are at that level, but how about at like level 1 rank 1. This video is useless.
If you are level 1 and rank 1 just stick with bunny or the initial descendant you picked, upgrade hp and def modules for descendant (they are useful for survival and at long run they are useful). Also I would recommend to use activators and catalysts in the weapons (Thundercage is a really safe option con use it for bossing or mobbing) and with that you should be able to get to hard mode. Hope this comment help you.
@@tlyoungb sorry mate this wasnt intended for players who just started the game. I recommend finishing the story first. After finishing the story you'll get 2x free energy activators. Bunny is a good starting descendant as cuzzwhynot said. Invest in her and it'll make your life easier once you start farming for guns and more descendants.
@@CuzzWhyN0t Thanks for the reply. Activators and Catalyst? What are those? and where do you get them and apply to a weapon? That's the problem i am having. All these videos are like from people that are higher level. That one gun on this video had a DSP of 97,000 and my gosh all the modes he was putting on his descendant 97 slot value? Holy cow.. This video is totally not for the new person just starting out. I don't even have the items he is putting on his descendant.
@tlyoungb an energy activator and energy catalyst are 2 of the most important materials in the game, do not waste them on a descendant or gun unless you truly love that descendant as they're extremely valuable and hard to get... you're able to farm them after you finish the story, i recommend leveling and building your bunny she'll help you get through the story easily
@@tlyoungbonce you're done with the story mode, then you unlock hard mode and are able to farm ultimate descendants, those you can focus all your resources on...finish the story firstly mate