What about Joni’s new husband divorcing his wife of 30 years for no apparent reason and then marrying Joni? I think Jonathan and Suzy had a real problem with this marriage.
I feel bad for the little girl, that being said I also find it sketchy that Jonathan is trying to get a new contract with him being President saying hes willing to put all this behind him? Seems that is suspicious
I didn’t know she got remarried. But that’s extremely early and suspicious. Simply does not look good and is not normal. Was she also having an affair when Marcus was, and it just was kept secret? Very weird
Joni language was very telling of where she is at spirituality. I couldn’t believe it. Jimmy Evans was talking down to Jonathan about his spiritual life and I didn’t hear him say anything disrespectful. Jimmy was not neutral and never said anything to Joni about her vulgar language. I have adult sons. They would be shocked to hear me talk this way. Being raised in ministry, this told me so much about her and Jimmy. I can’t imagine treating my children this way over a man. I feel so sorry for her children.
This secret recording should be pointed out more in these discussions. Jonathan and Suzy were recording this and were most likely censoring themselves because of it. We've all said stupid things in conflict. We don't know the TRUE words, reactions, and behavior of Jonathan and Suzy because they were modifying their words and temperament while knowing they were recording this. I highly, highly disagree with Jimmy and Joni's rhetoric and response here. I'm sure they're ashamed of it too, but to keep calling Jonathan and Suzy "sweet" and responding biblically is not fair, as they were tempering their response here knowing it would be shared for public consumption. Also, what is really bothering me is that they allowed their parents to handle the child abuse claim consciously or subconsciously because they were direct beneficiaries of DayStar. Then they moved past this, apparently, were still working for Daystar years after it happened, and only have brought this all to light because they got fired over the not-reading-the-Doug-comment. It feels very tit-for-tat, and their daughter is sadly being re-victimized by this public announcement. They could have easily been more vague about this. So gross.
The two audio tapes reveal the absolute bullying and spiritual abuse Jonathan suffered. Joni’s mouth was filthy and demeaning. Additionally, Rachel, the wife of alleged abuser, has been doxing the abused little girl on X. Disgusting and heartbreaking.
So sad and so tragic. I don't know what spirit is in any spouse who is trying to protect their sexual predator spouse while doing a smear campaign on his victim and the victim's family. 😢 So demonic!
Eric's wife: Well children do lie but I don't believe Susie's child is lying about such things especially that it is allegated about the graphic detail. I grew up in a abusive household and my mom told me not to say anything since my dad could lose his job. My silence plus other factors cost a healthy godly relationship with my mom and my sister.
Children do lie. I've been accused before of hitting a kid when I told her to share a toy but my EA was in the room whole time and knew I did not. Kid was not a trouble maker either. Just got mad because I told her to share the toys in preschool. Also, Children feed off of adults and she could have heard of her mamas SA and thought she'd been too.
Unfortunately, lawyers and caseworkers are TRAINED with the bias of young children are “coached” to believe they were molested. I wish I was wrong. I’ve been studying this topic since I reported csa and had my child removed from my possession because of it. I used to think it was because my exes uncle was the mayor where the abuse occurred. While that could still be true in our case, I’ve met countless parents living out the same story from various walks of life. “Child protection” is a sham. The system is designed to protect perpetrators- not children. “Best interest” literally means “most money.” … I could go on and on, but my body reacts every time I try. There’s videos on my page if anyone is interested in learning the truth of what goes on. There’s so much not covered, but enough to make people outraged.
Ask Jonathan and Suzy why they took their daughter back to the annual family retreat and once again shared a house with "Pete" if they thought any abuse occurred. Because no abuse did occur.
If you know your family well there is no problem. Our close family has never had even a whisper of a problem and I'm so thankful after watching this unfold. What was done in the dark will come to light and I am happy it has. My prayers go to that precious little girl of Jonathan and Suzy. I can't imagine the pain all this has caused and it should never have been covered up. Had this been handled properly in the beginning it would not come to this. May God had the bigger picture in mind bc now the debauchery behind Daystar is coming out and the whole story is told.
Jonathan has little to gain by taking over as president in comparison to what he had to loose. I think Joni had much more to lose by the exposure of the abuse. The livelihood of Jonathan and Suzie was held over them to keep them quiet.
They are begging him to do his job and not bring harm to people. You must do what your boss tells you to do no matter where you work. They have no right whatsoever to be disrespectful to anyone at Daystar !! Why do they have to beg them to be kind to Doug ?
@@melodiewood1315You must *NOT* do what your employer asks of you if it breaks state law or God’s law. Jonathan and Suzy had an obligation to stand their ground and bring up the issues they saw with their employer. Jonathan had this obligation even more because he was also a board member. I do *not* have to do everything my employer tells me to. I’ve refused when it was unethical, illegal, or immoral. A decent employer will listen to the concerns and take action. By refusing to “do what I was told,” I have saved my employer from breaking the law, large fines, losing employees, and losing their business. It’s difficult to make waves and come across as insubordinate, but once they heard me out, I was became an asset who was promoted. Jonathan and Suzy not only had the right to do what they did, they had an obligation to do it. This was much more than them reading a viewer comment. That was merely a control effort to make them submit and come across as though they agreed with the comment. To avoid all appearance of evil, they did well not to read it on air. To avoid someone else being harmed, they did well to let the allegations become public.
@@melodiewood1315 What employer expects you to stroke their ego and discuss their marriage and personal life? Completely unprofessional. And who sent that email -- was it Doug?
I did .I was so disgusted with Jimmy Evans..I'll never ever listen to that fraud again.. makes me sick but not really too surprised when I think back on how he described his own very controlling personality when he was younger. He's obviously reverted back
I got rid of the hours of recordings I had of my mom and her husband and this is the only time I wish I hadn't because people won't believe me how much it sounds like the same people
Hope you listen to the Toys Report in it's entirety! Jonathan and Suzy are being honest unlike Joni who isn't telling the truth and cherry picking parts of her correspondence with Jonathan to make him look bad but once read in it's entirety gives you the full coverage of what's going on! Respect to Jonathan and Suzy for standing firm and strong in truth and full transparency. Their protection is important as they're being stalked/ followed! The dishonesty of Joni and Jimmy Evans is sickening and they need to repent, anyway the Toys Report tells you EVERYTHING!
Yes, Joni is the one who is slandering her own son to protect her reputation, lucrative corporation, & son-in-law, Joshua Brown, the alleged predator who is married to Rachel Lamb Brown. Jonathan & Suzy refused to “submit” to Joni Lamb as “the Voice of God” as false teacher Pastor Jimmy Evans insisted. They had the audacity to fight for justice for their daughter who was allegedly molested by their Uncle Joshua Brown (married to Rachel Lamb Brown) when she was only 5-years old. They refused to celebrate the marriage of Joni Lamb to Doug Weiss, “former” sex addict & professional sex therapist & marriage counselor who divorced his wife of 30 years right after Marcus Lamb’s death & then began “grief” counseling Joni Lamb. A year later they were engaged. Joni retaliated by firing Suzy Lamb, demoting Jonathan Lamb from Vice President of Daystar to manager of the Cafe, removing him from the Board of Directors at Daystar, and trying to force him to sign an NDA- NonDisclosure Agreement. When Jonathan refused to sign the NDA, Joni fired him & began slandering him. Her ridiculous story is that he was trying to blackmail Daystar and use extortion to get the position of President of Daystar Corporation.
Me too. Before anything like this happened. Felt the Lord put it on my heart to stop watching. Few months later Joni got engaged to her current husband and apparently now all this..... God is always right👍
Joni cherry picked a piece from the email.. you need to go to Suzy and Jonathan’s you tube sight.. he taped lots of conversations.. Joni did this to make her look good.. when u see the whole story you will think differently.. I was a Daystar supporter.. I won’t be anymore.. breaks my heart..
I have noticed a pattern that Joni and Rachel and Jimmy repeatedly twist truth by Cherry Picking. Roys and Suzy and Jonathan tend to release "FULL emails and recordings".
Thank you Allie for covering the Daystar scandal. I hope you continue to cover this story and share the audio that was leaked of the meeting between Joni Lamb, Jimmy Evans, and Jonathan & Suzy. It’s disturbing how Joni Lamb and Jimmy Evans were talking to Jonathan & Suzy 😢 I hope all Christians would stop supporting Daystar and Joni Lamb and Jimmy Evans until a 3rd party investigations is done into these allegations.
This secret recording should be pointed out more in these discussions. Jonathan and Suzy were recording this and were most likely censoring themselves because of it. We've all said stupid things in conflict. We don't know the TRUE words, reactions, and behavior of Jonathan and Suzy because they were modifying their words and temperament while knowing they were recording this. I highly, highly disagree with Jimmy and Joni's rhetoric and response here. I'm sure they're ashamed of it too, but to keep calling Jonathan and Suzy "sweet" and responding biblically is not fair, as they were tempering their response here knowing it would be shared for public consumption. Also, what is really bothering me is that they allowed their parents to handle the child abuse claim consciously or subconsciously because they were direct beneficiaries of DayStar. Then they moved past this, apparently, were still working for Daystar years after it happened, and only have brought this all to light because they got fired over the not-reading-the-Doug-comment. It feels very tit-for-tat, and their daughter is sadly being re-victimized by this public announcement. They could have easily been more vague about this. So gross.
@@katel1316they stayed at Daystar because they were misled into believing that there was an internal investigation which cleared the accused. This speaks to the amount of control Joni exercised over them. They found out later that no investigation was done and that Joni ordered the whole issue be dropped. They were not in agreement with her marriage to Doug Weiss and Joni attempted to force them to submit and read comments on air praising the marriage. When they chose to remain loyal to their own convictions, Joni fired Susie. Jonathan was fired because he refused to sign an NDA. Joni gave a misleading statement to the public stating that Jonathon is trying to damage the network because he wants power and control. In reality he chose to go public to expose the truth and get justice for his daughter, since the perpetrator would not repent and the network and family chose to protect him.
@katel1316 Julie Roys and other credible sources have covered this story. For in stance Joni weiss states in her response that Jonathan had blackmailed her . Except Joni weiss is not telling the truth again. Because she never let us know the whole content of that email. That jonathan had written to her. He never blackmailed Daystar what so ever! Julie Roys talks about this also in her reports.
@@beatrijscoughlin8802 I don't find Julie Roys credible. She is biased and completely bought in to DEI woke stuff. Does that mean I don't believe what she uncovers? No, but I don't look to her as the end-all-be-all of knowledge and higher authority.
Doug owns the polygraph company that cleared Joshua Brown of any wrongdoing. Doug threw their daughter under the bus alongside Joni. Is it no wonder they could not embrace this man and read accolades from viewers about that man who ultimately put his dog in the fight? Being willing to read the "viewers" comments was telling the viewing audience in good conscience that this man is trustworthy. That would eventually be used and held against them in court. Thank God Suzy stood on her convictions!
@hannahtedeschi673 I thought about that! It was a stunt to get them to say Doug is a good man when he did just as wrong as Joni did. They tried to snag them into false pretenses! Such deception! But it backfired on them when Suzy stood her grounds. She is led of the Holy Spirit!
@@heartlightsThis person is commenting on a video ABOUT Daystar. It makes sense to comment about if someone has ever heard of them or not. Hope that helps it make sense to you. God bless! ❤
You have some things wrong. Jonathan wrote this email to Joni after she was trying to press them into speaking great things about her new husband. They wanted to keep their feelings about the marriage private and she wouldnt have it. At that point Jonathan still thought the investigation had been legit and was done. It wasnt until he refused to submit to joni in this way and couldnt sign the NDA that 2 days later the investigator contacted jonathan. Thank God they werent muscled into the NDA
The email from Jonathon was in response to the situation regarding the meeting about him and Suzy not wanting to read viewer mail praising Joni’s new marriage and new husband which Jonathon and Suzy were not in agreement with. It was NOT in regards to the situation with their daughter. If you listen to the recording of that meeting in which Jimmy Evans is a part of, his email makes more sense and is less problematic. I am actually a little bit disappointed in how you covered this story. There is so much more I would’ve loved to have heard your take on the conversation in which Jimmy Evans was involved in.
Agreed...Allie Beth needs to do better research before commenting on this multi layered story. It is very significant to the body of Christ and deserves a thorough vetting and coverage!
If someone is covering up your child being molested. You telling me you wouldn't be bringing it up? Yall need to wake up. And why are you fighting for your job when the person you fighting against covering up your child being molested. Smh
I have worked with children who are “at risk of abuse.” It was in the 1990’s. The children I worked with at a therapeutic preschool are now adults. I will pray for the truth to be revealed and not covered up and for Jonathan & Susie’s daughter.
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First of all, you are the first TH-cam journalist (i don't know what your official title is) to deliver the news regarding Daystar with sound discernment and from a pure and Godly heart. So refreshing. I will be listening to you--following and subscribing to your channel.
Hey Allie, you should've played the audio recordings of the meeting Joni & Jimmy Evans had with Jonathan & Suzy. Evans referred to Joni as, 'The Voice of God' as far as both Jonathan & Suzy are concerned. REALLY? Evans, who was supposed to be a 'neutral party' in this meeting, NEVER reprimanded Joni for the Vulgarity she was using on her own Son & Daughter-in-Law. Words like, "bullBLEEP", or telling Suzy that she had Jonathan by the (male anatomy). Is THAT how God, or Jesus would talk to either Jonathan or Suzy if He had a meeting with them? Lastly, would Jimmy Evans, or Joni, Jonathan, or Suzy be willing to go on your Show as a Guest(s) - the worst that could happen is that they'd tell you, "No". Take care.
God is getting his house in order, and revealing the church. Just like Ps Robert Morris - I was a member for 18 years, and now I remember all the signs. I’m not going to throw stones but the silence is deafening. That church was so special to me. It breaks my heart. I always had a huge problem though with the Marcus Lamb thing, and my mom never understood it, I just couldn’t get over the cheating scandal and I don’t really know why I took that soooo serious. I think it’s the betrayal as we are “counseled” by these people…but this is all a reminder we don’t put Pastors on a Pedestal. Now Jimmy Evans, I really appreciated him, I had many conversations with these people, I am walking distance from Daystar!…I missed the part on Jimmy Evans, so I will have to come back. I always loved his speaking at Gateway and one of his books was a favorite, I remember buying 10 or 20 and just giving them out. This sadly, doesn’t surprise me though. We really must lean into the Lord and not our Christian leaders. Heartbreaking. This is the first I’m hearing so I’ll have to do some research.
Please dont come to quick conclusions especially regarding jonathan and suzy. I have watched closely these past years especially since Suzy and Jonathan no longer appeared on Daystar. I have been very concerned. I have very much been very fond of watching the entire family intereact on Daystar for many years. I can say with complete confidence that Jonathan is not blackmailing Daystar or his mother. Both Suzy and Jonathan are exactly as they seem. When this broke recently I have felt heartbroken 💔 for everyone but mostly importantly for this sweet daughter. Im leaving some links. Please do due diligence. . A clearer picture will comes into focus. 💔 The alleged perpetrator is a close family member and is being protected along with Daystars image. Yes, its complicated. But devastating. There is religious programming, cover ups,manipulation, control and so on. Watch The Roys Report, Jonathan and Suzy, all audio, the report from the New York Post. And i will leave a couple more links. Jonathan and Suzy literally had to leave to another state in an undisclosed location for fear of their lives because actions turned to mafia type control. Also Jonathan's email was manipulated. 😢 Lets all certainly pray for truth, justice and healing. th-cam.com/users/shorts2j2NQxTrVuw?si=dAsZqkp4x9J5Go0T
Laura Lynn Tyler Thomas She was on Joni's Table Talk a year ago and has no favoritism in the mix. She's continuing to report and pray. th-cam.com/users/liveJ5yuuEDKEag?si=tP4s5ISZCLC-5QcP
Vic News Hub Regarding Suzy's SA at Daystar where she was told she was not to go to the police. And the perpetrator was paid off. th-cam.com/video/V4b4vfqdMdY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SnRddDTYhz_0QhCL
New York Post This is spot on. th-cam.com/video/baybsTuYxH8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JlX3iiDaB1HMLa3U May God bring justice and healing. Thank you for reporting on this. 🤗
Eric's wife: I deeply love and appreciate Laura's response. It was calm, wise, firm and compassionate. We need more Christians like her and responding with kindness and wisdom.
As a former Daystar viewer I feel that Joni lost all her spiritual strength over the years given the parade of all the prosperity "celebrity" preachers on Daystar. She and her daughters were very into the Pinterest lifestyles, and she got into that conspiracy theories real heavy with her posse of her table friends. When Marcus got sick and died, she seemed relieved, and her RBF got softer. Suddenly! She dropped 100lbs and started acting like a teenager on bubblegum overdose. And before the year was over... she's talking about "God sent a man..." But the man was always there... even with his wife on their programs! He even later gloated that he was the first one to see Marcus in his casket! So he divorces his wife weeks after Marcus died and the therapists and fake pastor that was kicked out of Gateway Church by then, Jimmy Evans... claims his wife was abusing him!!! The wedding was too soon, too expensive and too public for a ministry! The ministry jet"s flight logs get published and they look bad!!! She was always worried about her and not the image and future of the ministry or her family. They live in crazy luxury and none of that is biblical. She wrote a book, marketed the wedding video naming it a "miracle" and all that is charlatanry... GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!!
I can imagine how tough it was for Jonathan to "perform" with the president of Daystar and his two sisters running the company. Joni and her two daughters ran Daystar even before Marcus passed away. Jonathan had no chance against these three and with Doug's influence it was impossible. My opinion is that Jonathan was "blocked" from all directions
I was taken aback with Joni’s language. I was really unnerved with Jimmy saying she was the voice of God. Hoping he meant that she was the voice of authority not the voice of God. Also Jonathan and Suzy were recording in secret. Therefore they were careful how they responded and the words they were using. I think Suzy can be a firecracker. I pray a proper investigation will be conducted for the alleged SA and counselling will be happen. This family needs prayer.
When you listen to the audio the abuse anger narcissistic gas lighting that was being done to Jonathan and Suzy was so obvious it was repulsive. I had no idea how bad Jimmy was but I had suspicions about Joni and now are proven correct
The use of forensic psychologists (basically someone who is both an expert in psychology and in criminal forensics) interviews a child in a setting that isn’t as scary as having no to be questioned by the police. This individual is also a specialist with children and trauma.
The email you read was not fully shown by Joni. In the full email Jonathan was not blackmailing but asking that he be able to reinstated to VP and eventually President when Joni retired or passed. No nepotism in this story if you ask me. Joni is completely out of line and refused to solve this in private. She has had plenty of time.
I would really like to hear your opinion on the meeting with Jimmy Evans that everyone is talking about! It’s a huge part of the Daystar story and I would appreciate your take on it.
Allie, you seem very confused in the time line. A male family member (other than the child's parents parents) was caught in a hotel room with their naked child. The little girl began screaming and both Suzie and Jonathan ran up there and thats when the family member, Pete was found in the room with the child. Joni told Jonathan not to go to the police but that she and Marcus would investigate it. They never did. They covered it up, but said they did. They lied. However, Jonathan and Suzie did go to police and also, in August of 2024 they went to Jule Roys, of the Roys Report and reported it to her. She took 3 months to research and called Daystar for their side of the story. The next day Joni's lawyer called Jonathan and demanded he sign an NDA ( a GAG ORDER) When he refused, he was fired. If that email HAS NO DATE ON IT, THAT SHOULD BE A HUGE CLUE TO YOU that it was written AFTER Jonathan Lamb found out that his parents coverup the child abuse and AFTER that abusive, belittling 90 minute exchange btw Joni, Jimmy Evans, Suzie and Jonathan Lamb, where Jimmy Evans tells Jinathan that Joni is the "VOICE OF GOD" and that he must submit and obey in order to stay at Daystar. You need to research your subject more thoroughly.
As someone who has been following this story closely, this is an excellent and accurate retelling of events. We need people to report accurately on this story as it unfolds…the lives and reputations of many are at stake. May the Lord continue to bring the truth to light!
Suzy said she asked her girl to go put on her swimsuit. She saw Pete's eyes turn zombie black and follow her up. She ran and got Jonathan. Jonathan hurried up 3 flights of stairs, opened the door and found Pete in with his daughter naked. Jonathan screamed at him. Pete, shaken, said "50 times" I am sorry, I am soooo sorry, I am sorrry......
The son should hv left the family immediately. Very suspicious. I wld not go near any family member that I thought was dangerous, Including my mom or dad. Jonathan just wants a position or money.
@SC-tx5le Well that's YOU. Jonathan was raised with his parents dictating policy and was taught to SUBMIT with cultic obedience. Don't project what you would or wouldn't do - you aren't him and wasn't raised in his family dynamic. Joni Lamb is a Narcissist and all that matters to her is to protect the BRAND of Daystar! She could care less about her granddaughter. She was protecting Daystar.
@@karenmartin4221 To appease his wife? To knock his own mother out of her presidency role? Rage? Jealousy over his sister? Job security? Money? If I can’t have it, nobody can? Trying to act like what he thought a real man would act like? A hundred other reasons really. You can see how he behaved in front of his wife he is a weak man. Even his own voice and thought process betrayed him.
@@johnhenry9456Just listen to your statement. The mear fact Joni covering up Alleged Pete's pedophilia for molesting Jonathan and Suzie daughter is the story. You sound like your on the Joni and Jimmy Lucipherian Ideology train. Get help
He was literally set to inherit the empire. They were flying around on a private jet and taking luxury vacations. He was knowingly participating in all of this for years. He and his wife had the benefit of self-censorship in that recording.
The fact that the man was caught in the room with the unclothed child, period, is a problem! Right there why isn't Marcus and Joni even curious of what the heck is going on?! As a former LE officer, you don't have some examiner investigate a potential crime this serious, and then say it's all good nothing to see here. That's ridiculous!! You play it safe and protect the child, their own grandchild! I'm sorry but if that's my child and they're telling me it's nothing and I need to submit, let's just say there would be other problems for them to deal with. I'm not seeing any common sense used here, by Daystar.
He wasn't alone with her. Maybe listen to both sides and then make a decision...that is the problem with society today, everyone listens to just one side of the story...
@@truthwins1426 And when it's one's word against another's there is no way to really know...we want to have faith in the human race, but humans are humans, we can do some crazy things and when money and power are involved, well...I really won't be suprised in either one being true, but it is probably somewhere in the middle..
There is a recording of Joni and Jimmy Evans trying to verbally beat down Jonathon and Suzy into submission even going as far to state Joni is the voice of God.
Funny to hear someone who is thriving, healthy, wealthy, and likely a tither & generous giver say that God doesn’t provide these things to his faithful ones
Eric's Wife: Maybe it will. But if that is its course, shouldn't you and I and others be praying for God to plant those who strive harder and walk closer to Him, having seen the price the other path takes people? Shouldn't we be praying for those hand selected by God to bring whole grain spiritual bread in what is becoming a barren wasteland spiritually?
It’s unfortunate that Allie didn’t do all of her research before so broadly hearing a podcast on this very serious situation that deserves a spotlight as Christians on with Daystar, we should call these people out. We should hold these people accountable. We should have all the evidence and facts if we’re going to spread a message of truth and unfortunately, I don’t think that Allie did her due diligence on this horrific situation
Perhaps Allie should clarify, but I don't think she is portraying herself as any kind of expert or that she has any form of inside information. She is simply pointing to this situation as negative news regarding bad actors in our Christian communities while acknowledging a possible true innocent victim of a real crime. Allie didn't speak as if she had authority or the details.
Eric's wife: Allie is given things by her team and the interwebs is massive, I believe it may be that they are not wanting to say what they don't know as a wise journalist because this is serious, as you say. It takes time to vet other channels to see who is who and what all is being said. Multiple relatives of mine abused and enabled my abuser. Many people just don't get how confusing and discombobulating it is to hear from the side of the abuser and then also the abused.
I also hope that 100 or more minister's on the network are having a serious conversation with the network ! Only one Canadian (LAURA THOMPSON) has left the network and has spoken out on this subject....Bravo to her. What investigation is ongoing with the alleged Pete ??
Ranchers,pull your spo nsership of this person please...there has been NO investigations on any of these allegations concerning Daystar its in the beginning stages and should not be on any podcast at this point.. What if your business was in the same situation ....again please pull your sponsorship and give it to platforms of integrity not on the gaslighting ones like this that use Jesus not follow Him.
Eric's wife: Ali, although I continue to pray a pit bull save your children and you get stuck with the best pittie ever, I do thank you for covering this. As a woman who survived nearly three decades of narcissistic abuse from relatives (I cannot even call them family because they do not behave as such--it would be a lie) I want to share some thoughts on this and hopefully bring some food for thought to your audience as well. Although these are allegations, what I see is JONI being the one to double down on valuing the brand or company in this public address--not even addressing the seriousness and long lasting trauma in mind and body that this can have on anyone who is abused or has been. There is no ounce of acknowledgement that SA is serious, there is nothing vocalized as to the care of her grandbaby. It makes me physically sick like I want to puke. We may not be able to smell in the Spirit, but that is a stench to God's nostrils. 2. Joni claims Jonathan is in some sort of "smear campaign." Ok. Lemme break this down. My ex husband ten years ago and my dad both launched smear campaigns. A campaign is not a single thing, in this case a concern that Jonathan and Susie are bringing to the table. I do not see that being validated by Joni in anyway. My exe's actual smear campaign in the beginning of our divorce proceedings was just that a campaign. Not a singular concern. He went on social media lying about me over multiple things--claiming that I had left him homeless when I hadn't, when he could stay as a caretaker to his elderly parents in the house I had bought them from the inheritance left me at that juncture by my grandfather. He claimed I intended to "steal back" the house I had bought for them when I would never dream of doing such a thing. Their house is their house. Its a gift. No take backs. He told people I said that I would kill my rabbit when in fact I had said that if his rabbit got mine sick and because money was tight since we both were unemployed that if it came down to the decision I would allow the vet to peacefully put the rabbit to rest instead of allowing the animal to suffer. He also multiple times in court documentation claimed fear of me because I at the time owned a "battle axe" from Lord of the Rings when he outweighed me at least 100 pounds and had martial arts training and had a katana and I think a tanto blade. No one on social media checked him on any of that. They all called me a B word. THAT is a smear campaign. THAT is different than a legitimate concern about your child's well being. 3.If you are wondering how the guy was cleared...CHECK OUT "THE UNCTION" youtube channel. I learned that this is because the suspected individual would not answer any of the questions. Regardless, I agree with you, Ali, the legal process when it comes to child abuse definitely needs better protocol and laws in place and this brings me to my last point at least for now which I agree with "The Unction" channel. WE, we the people of God NEED TO HELP STOMP THIS OUT OF GOD'S HOUSE AND OUT OF MINISTRIES BY STRONGLY PUTTING OUR FOOT DOWN AND NOT GIVING THIS "PERCIEVED" ...PERCEIVED "WHOLESOME" Entertainment the money God gives us. As a survivor of abuse, I am invested in this and care deeply and grieve deeply about the grandchild. Joni putting that out on the airwaves for her grandchild to see as she grows older to look back on and see the shameful cowardice of her grandmother not even considering how her granddaughter would feel watching that. I understand many people use the term "follow" in the world of social media but we as believers are not meant to "Follow" daystar, we're meant to follow Jesus. We all need to get that in our thick heads! And last but not least regarding the absolute ridiculousness of Joni being the voice of God at daystar...God is not confined to the daystar building. He is not confined to the property, the parking lot, none of that. The voice of God is living and its in the WORD. Its in alignment with the WHOLE counsel of God in Scripture. Love ya'll and grace be with you. Continue to be the Bereans, grow in wisdom, understanding, knowledge and discernment. Continue as good and faithful servants.
I believe the little girl. I also think 🤔 asking your son to sign a NDA is Evil 👿 . Joni is upset over the fact her son expressed his disgust with her marriage to someone who divorced his wife of 30 years, due to non Biblical reasons. In God eye 👁 he is not divorced.
Most people already know who "Pete" is mow. He was with Joni in hospital when Marcus died. Where was Johnathan her own son? Jimmy Evans the big bully of Daystar!!!! They are both narcissists!!!!
Allie, the name is just "Daystar" not "Charismatic Daystar"! Do not do a broad-brush slam on those who consider themselves as charismatic! That is not necessary and it's unbiblical to do this. The terrible circumstances surrounding Joni Lamb and Daystar needs to be addressed but keep it as it is and don't use it to smear others.
Thank you for all you do to share important topics with us Allie. There is SO MUCH MORE detail and truly tragic information regarding the Daystar story. It is apparent that God is purging false teachers and deceivers in the American religious institutions and groups… bringing light to areas of great darkness. God help us as we look to Him for our own sanctification.🙏🏻
I have some feelings about this. Speaking for myself, I think I was lead to give up way too much power to the church. Well, to authority figures. (Maybe not all of you were.) It could be many factors temperament, personally, family of origin. etc This just frustrates me. Why are we taught not to trust our gut? I was told by a former pastor wife to never trust myself. That never set well with me. This leads to abuse. In the back of my mind, I need to trust my pastor and do what he says. I need to do what my spouse say. Am I a child? If I disagree that is rebellion. Very frustrating. Aren't you tired of people getting away with horrible things in the name of God? Just call me a rebel then. This type of thing makes me never to ever want anything to do with ministry.
Gothard protocol seeped into many places and exerted a lot of influence in the 1980s and this is the generation who is promoting this error. Most people do not even know where this came from or how they ended up thinking this way. Also, churches need to be more aware of how grooming happens but not just for children but how this manipluation is worked upon adults.
But you’re exactly the kind of person who needs to be in ministry. If anything, to teach young women this. When we’re saved, our gut is often the Holy Spirit. We’re commanded not to quench Him. Just call me a rebel then, too.😉
I hope you cover Joni's response to each of these allegations and also ask Jonathan and Suzy why they took their daughter back to the annual family retreat and once again shared a house with "Pete" if they thought any abuse occurred. Also, how exactly did "Pete" abused their daughter when "Pete" was in the room holding a 1-year-old baby and another 8-year-old relative was also in the room at the same time! The eight-year-old asked Pete to go into the room so he could show "Pete" the view from the window. The daughter ran into the room to get her swimsuit on so she could go in the pool.
We need to pray for justice and healing for this mess. So many ministers and churches have gone down these last few years. Recently Beth Moore had to break with Southern Gospel denom for related issues. Let's pray and show humility. None of us are better than anyone or too righteous to fall or fail. Gal.6:1-5, 7-10.🙏🙏🙏
I pray that Jonathan doesn’t come under the same kinda of control from his wife that he did with his mother!!! His wife has those same characteristics as his mother has!!! He needs to be a STRONG MAN that his father wasn’t!!!
Please, if you suspect that your child is being molested or otherwise abused, even by a family member and/or person at your workplace, do not confront someone for a discussion, don't go to your parents or their parents or the boss or whoever it is. Go directly to the police. There is no discussion to be had. People with vested interests to cover up such crimes often will do so, even and sometimes especially when it involves family members. There are also still states that have statutes of limitations on crimes like this. I guess either the state in question here doesn't or the statute hadn't run out yet so they police are able to try to get to the bottom of this, which is good. Whatever is going on, I pray for the little girl involved. Like Allie said, either way she's a victim here and she doesn't deserve that.
Prophetically speaking from The Word when Joni passes away Doug is going to get the whole ministry Doug saw money and he saw the fun from now until she passes awY Eventually Doug will not.like.thw control that Joni has on him and will get tired of that
Check the timeline and read any quote in context as that email was not about the incident you are discussing. She was unhappy he shared his convictions about her marriage to a recently divorced man, etc. Bear in mind that the son was on the board and many on church circles do not understand fiduciary responsibility. Lauralyn Tyler Thomson and Roys Report has laid out the timeline. The kind of submission protocol indicated upon a closer look is found within many church organizations, and seems to come from the Gothard cult influencing HR practices across denomenations (not just charismatic ones) . Also, many TH-camrs have been served legal papers for even commenting about this story.
Thank you for talking on this! I’ve followed daystar for years now and it’s very confusing! I’ve listened to both sides so I’m excited to hear your response!
That’s exactly what I was thinking too! Someone needs to interview Doug’s ex-wife about what really happened. I find it extremely weird that Doug and his ex-wife would protray that they had a solid marriage and would do marriage seminars and counseling but all of a sudden Doug says she abandon him while he was doing “grief” counseling with Joni Lamb and then she would start dating him shortly after Marcus passed away….so strange….I definitely want to hear his ex-wife side on this.
Joni is Doug’s 3rd wife. No wonder her son is upset. Not sure I would go to Doug for marriage counseling. The internet seems to indicate he may have been unfaithful to both. Supposedly he is a recovered sex addict. Hmmm
As per the Roys report the counselor who counseled Doug and his ex-wife came to Joni to warn her about Doug as she knew the real reason the marriage ended. Joni would not listen. The counselor wrote a letter of concern to the family who met with Joni. Joni allowed them 60 seconds each to express their concerns then flew off to meet Doug.
Only God can judge. I do believe something happened to Jonathan and Suzie Lamb's daughter. Children do not make these claims up at the age of 5!! Only the people involved and God knows the " truth." I watched the Roy's report and listened to Joni & Jimmy & Jonathan and Suzie. I continue to pray 🙏🏽 for healing for this entire family. ❤❤❤ 😢 ALMIGHTY GOD WILL EXPOSE THE " TRUTH." I did not watch this video of ALLY after reading the many comments.
Wow! At what company can you reveal personal allegations about any employee, publicly. Sounds like Jonathan has cause for legal action. That aside, What a HORRIBLE MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER! 😲
This is a very sensitive and complex situation that needs properly researching in order to share the facts with us. The Roys report took at least 4 months to extensively research before publishing the articles. (Jonathan and Suzy said they want to Julie Roys in July) I believe the Roys report to be very thorough in their investigation. However, this would appear not to be. Many thanks
All due respect given, but when you call Daystar a Christian network, you lend credibility to these wolves. Just because a program utters the Lord’s name doesn’t qualify it as one that offers sound teaching. You might as well be discussing any contemporary organization.
I've been chasing the things of this world again and got lost, I have found my way back to Jesus. I am encouraged by Allie creating a space for us to come without throwing morals out the window.
As far as the prosperity gospel, there is no such thing. But there is the Gospel of the Kingdom and within that Kingdom Gospel is financial prosperity. God even says in Malachi to test Him in this and see that He will pour out a blessing so big we won't be able to contain it! Paul spoke about "giving and receiving" Receiving is a very big part of giving. Paul told the Philippians that he wanted them to give so that it would ABOUND TO THEIR ACCOUNT! Many Christians miss this and think that it is Godly to be poor. No it is not! God is a God of abundance and He wants us prosperous so that we can abound to every good work - whoever is in need - we can meet that need. But you must be mature in that money doesn't control you but that you control it.
I would never pardon my son with his criminal activity. I don’t pardon him now with his misbehavior. I would not do it at a larger scale. I am an advocate for consequences.
It sounds like blackmail to me when you offer not to release secret tapes, if reinstated as president or reinstated with specific jobs and all of that. The entire thing stinks. Nobody handled things correctly and this should not be a public feud.
There's an extended version of the Volvo commercial that absolutely WILL make you cry! The pregnant woman who is crossing the street almost gets hit by a car driven by an inattentive driver, but she doesn't because the car is a Volvo and it stopped on a dime. And the whole time you're aware that that car might hit her, that she might die and so all of his hopes and dreams and nerves that he's talking to his mother might be cut tragically short but then it doesn't and it cuts to her in the bed with her newborn baby with him beside her. It's such a great commercial, way better than the Jaguar ad. The Jaguar ad was weird and it didn't make me interested in buying a Jaguar, but the Volvo ad makes me want to immediately run out and buy a Volvo because that ad made me so happy and brought up so many positive emotions and thoughts.
What is done in darkness, the Lord will bring into the light.
What about Joni’s new husband divorcing his wife of 30 years for no apparent reason and then marrying Joni? I think Jonathan and Suzy had a real problem with this marriage.
My thoughts exactly
And rightly so. It made me very uncomfortable when I first heard Evans trying to justify the situation early on.
I feel bad for the little girl, that being said I also find it sketchy that Jonathan is trying to get a new contract with him being President saying hes willing to put all this behind him? Seems that is suspicious
I believe All her children were initially opposed to her marriage to Weiss.
I didn’t know she got remarried. But that’s extremely early and suspicious. Simply does not look good and is not normal. Was she also having an affair when Marcus was, and it just was kept secret? Very weird
Joni language was very telling of where she is at spirituality. I couldn’t believe it. Jimmy Evans was talking down to Jonathan about his spiritual life and I didn’t hear him say anything disrespectful. Jimmy was not neutral and never said anything to Joni about her vulgar language. I have adult sons. They would be shocked to hear me talk this way. Being raised in ministry, this told me so much about her and Jimmy. I can’t imagine treating my children this way over a man. I feel so sorry for her children.
And to think she talked like that in front of not just her son but another man that is supposedly Christian and a counselor.
AGREED
She used vulgar language towards her son? Wow, that's terrible.
The mouth speaks what the heart is full of….Matt 12:34
This secret recording should be pointed out more in these discussions. Jonathan and Suzy were recording this and were most likely censoring themselves because of it. We've all said stupid things in conflict. We don't know the TRUE words, reactions, and behavior of Jonathan and Suzy because they were modifying their words and temperament while knowing they were recording this.
I highly, highly disagree with Jimmy and Joni's rhetoric and response here. I'm sure they're ashamed of it too, but to keep calling Jonathan and Suzy "sweet" and responding biblically is not fair, as they were tempering their response here knowing it would be shared for public consumption.
Also, what is really bothering me is that they allowed their parents to handle the child abuse claim consciously or subconsciously because they were direct beneficiaries of DayStar. Then they moved past this, apparently, were still working for Daystar years after it happened, and only have brought this all to light because they got fired over the not-reading-the-Doug-comment. It feels very tit-for-tat, and their daughter is sadly being re-victimized by this public announcement. They could have easily been more vague about this. So gross.
The two audio tapes reveal the absolute bullying and spiritual abuse Jonathan suffered. Joni’s mouth was filthy and demeaning. Additionally, Rachel, the wife of alleged abuser, has been doxing the abused little girl on X. Disgusting and heartbreaking.
Rachel is exposing her own hard heart and who the abuser is by her actions.
So sad and so tragic. I don't know what spirit is in any spouse who is trying to protect their sexual predator spouse while doing a smear campaign on his victim and the victim's family. 😢 So demonic!
@@Bellajane127I agree. Until it happens to her own kids. Lord have mercy. 🙏🏻
Children do not lie. I believe her 💯.
Eric's wife: Well children do lie but I don't believe Susie's child is lying about such things especially that it is allegated about the graphic detail. I grew up in a abusive household and my mom told me not to say anything since my dad could lose his job. My silence plus other factors cost a healthy godly relationship with my mom and my sister.
Children do lie. I've been accused before of hitting a kid when I told her to share a toy but my EA was in the room whole time and knew I did not. Kid was not a trouble maker either. Just got mad because I told her to share the toys in preschool. Also, Children feed off of adults and she could have heard of her mamas SA and thought she'd been too.
Not to say don't ever listen to kids.
Unfortunately, lawyers and caseworkers are TRAINED with the bias of young children are “coached” to believe they were molested. I wish I was wrong. I’ve been studying this topic since I reported csa and had my child removed from my possession because of it. I used to think it was because my exes uncle was the mayor where the abuse occurred. While that could still be true in our case, I’ve met countless parents living out the same story from various walks of life. “Child protection” is a sham. The system is designed to protect perpetrators- not children. “Best interest” literally means “most money.” … I could go on and on, but my body reacts every time I try. There’s videos on my page if anyone is interested in learning the truth of what goes on. There’s so much not covered, but enough to make people outraged.
Believe it, kids do lie. You trying to say that you didn't lie as a kid?
NEVER ALLOW YOUR KIDS OUT OF YOUR SIGHT!! Abuse often occurs by the people closest to you.
Exactly!
Ask Jonathan and Suzy why they took their daughter back to the annual family retreat and once again shared a house with "Pete" if they thought any abuse occurred. Because no abuse did occur.
If you know your family well there is no problem. Our close family has never had even a whisper of a problem and I'm so thankful after watching this unfold. What was done in the dark will come to light and I am happy it has.
My prayers go to that precious little girl of Jonathan and Suzy. I can't imagine the pain all this has caused and it should never have been covered up. Had this been handled properly in the beginning it would not come to this. May God had the bigger picture in mind bc now the debauchery behind Daystar is coming out and the whole story is told.
That's true.
WELL I DIDNT KNOW HE WAS THAT GREAT OLD!!!!!! 🤷🏽♀️
Jonathan has little to gain by taking over as president in comparison to what he had to loose. I think Joni had much more to lose by the exposure of the abuse. The livelihood of Jonathan and Suzie was held over them to keep them quiet.
They are begging him to do his job and not bring harm to people. You must do what your boss tells you to do no matter where you work. They have no right whatsoever to be disrespectful to anyone at Daystar !! Why do they have to beg them to be kind to Doug ?
I like to hear ur news. Too much ads for stuff
Byebye
@@melodiewood1315You must *NOT* do what your employer asks of you if it breaks state law or God’s law. Jonathan and Suzy had an obligation to stand their ground and bring up the issues they saw with their employer. Jonathan had this obligation even more because he was also a board member.
I do *not* have to do everything my employer tells me to. I’ve refused when it was unethical, illegal, or immoral. A decent employer will listen to the concerns and take action. By refusing to “do what I was told,” I have saved my employer from breaking the law, large fines, losing employees, and losing their business. It’s difficult to make waves and come across as insubordinate, but once they heard me out, I was became an asset who was promoted.
Jonathan and Suzy not only had the right to do what they did, they had an obligation to do it. This was much more than them reading a viewer comment. That was merely a control effort to make them submit and come across as though they agreed with the comment. To avoid all appearance of evil, they did well not to read it on air. To avoid someone else being harmed, they did well to let the allegations become public.
@@melodiewood1315 What employer expects you to stroke their ego and discuss their marriage and personal life? Completely unprofessional. And who sent that email -- was it Doug?
Their meeting with Joni and Jimmy speaks volumes . Listen to it .
Listening to that recording was all I needed to know about this situation… very alarming 🚩🚩🚩
I did .I was so disgusted with Jimmy Evans..I'll never ever listen to that fraud again.. makes me sick but not really too surprised when I think back on how he described his own very controlling personality when he was younger. He's obviously reverted back
I got rid of the hours of recordings I had of my mom and her husband and this is the only time I wish I hadn't because people won't believe me how much it sounds like the same people
Agree! @@lynny5908
I was horrified. Evans was totally trying to gaslight Jonathan. Insane.
I'm SO glad you're covering this. I've been so heart broken over the Daystar tragedy. I've watch Joni "table talk" for 15 year's. Just devastating!
100% on Johnathon and Suzie Lambs side. Listen to the audio tapes, it's pretty clear who the bad guy is!
I heard/watched a TH-cam of the Lamb’s son Jonathan and her wife. I believe what the couple has said on TH-cam. I pray for the family.
Hope you listen to the Toys Report in it's entirety! Jonathan and Suzy are being honest unlike Joni who isn't telling the truth and cherry picking parts of her correspondence with Jonathan to make him look bad but once read in it's entirety gives you the full coverage of what's going on! Respect to Jonathan and Suzy for standing firm and strong in truth and full transparency. Their protection is important as they're being stalked/ followed! The dishonesty of Joni and Jimmy Evans is sickening and they need to repent, anyway the Toys Report tells you EVERYTHING!
Roy's report
Allie if you listen to the recordings it's clear that Joni is the one doing the blackmailing.
Yes, Joni is the one who is slandering her own son to protect her reputation, lucrative corporation, & son-in-law, Joshua Brown, the alleged predator who is married to Rachel Lamb Brown.
Jonathan & Suzy refused to “submit” to Joni Lamb as “the Voice of God” as false teacher Pastor Jimmy Evans insisted. They had the audacity to fight for justice for their daughter who was allegedly molested by their Uncle Joshua Brown (married to Rachel Lamb Brown) when she was only 5-years old.
They refused to celebrate the marriage of Joni Lamb to Doug Weiss, “former” sex addict & professional sex therapist & marriage counselor who divorced his wife of 30 years right after Marcus Lamb’s death & then began “grief” counseling Joni Lamb. A year later they were engaged.
Joni retaliated by firing Suzy Lamb, demoting Jonathan Lamb from Vice President of Daystar to manager of the Cafe, removing him from the Board of Directors at Daystar, and trying to force him to sign an NDA- NonDisclosure Agreement.
When Jonathan refused to sign the NDA, Joni fired him & began slandering him. Her ridiculous story is that he was trying to blackmail Daystar and use extortion to get the position of President of Daystar Corporation.
@@roseofsharon9346That's exactly what I am saying. I'm confused by your response.
@@roseofsharon9346You are correct - it’s a bit complicated but I can tell you have been following the story
@@roseofsharon9346they have NOT named the suspect or made allegations against a named person but people are drawing conclusions and guessing.
💯 You are correct!
The lie: Daystar said they are on Sabatical Rest.Why lie Daystar, why lie?????????
wasn't really a lie. they were on a sabatical rest. they just didn't tell the whole story, which is their prerogative.
I use to watch Joni TableTalk but no more.
Same!! Never watching Daystar or Joni Table Talk again. So sickening hearing about what they have been doing to Jonathan & Suzy and their child 😢
Me too. Before anything like this happened. Felt the Lord put it on my heart to stop watching. Few months later Joni got engaged to her current husband and apparently now all this..... God is always right👍
Joni cherry picked a piece from the email.. you need to go to Suzy and Jonathan’s you tube sight.. he taped lots of conversations.. Joni did this to make her look good.. when u see the whole story you will think differently.. I was a Daystar supporter.. I won’t be anymore.. breaks my heart..
I have noticed a pattern that Joni and Rachel and Jimmy repeatedly twist truth by Cherry Picking. Roys and Suzy and Jonathan tend to release "FULL emails and recordings".
Day Star has been a scam artist.
@@kimwardpayments7463 I wonder what Rebecca thinks of this whole thing.. I’m praying she at least is legit… 🙏
Thank you Allie for covering the Daystar scandal. I hope you continue to cover this story and share the audio that was leaked of the meeting between Joni Lamb, Jimmy Evans, and Jonathan & Suzy. It’s disturbing how Joni Lamb and Jimmy Evans were talking to Jonathan & Suzy 😢 I hope all Christians would stop supporting Daystar and Joni Lamb and Jimmy Evans until a 3rd party investigations is done into these allegations.
This secret recording should be pointed out more in these discussions. Jonathan and Suzy were recording this and were most likely censoring themselves because of it. We've all said stupid things in conflict. We don't know the TRUE words, reactions, and behavior of Jonathan and Suzy because they were modifying their words and temperament while knowing they were recording this.
I highly, highly disagree with Jimmy and Joni's rhetoric and response here. I'm sure they're ashamed of it too, but to keep calling Jonathan and Suzy "sweet" and responding biblically is not fair, as they were tempering their response here knowing it would be shared for public consumption.
Also, what is really bothering me is that they allowed their parents to handle the child abuse claim consciously or subconsciously because they were direct beneficiaries of DayStar. Then they moved past this, apparently, were still working for Daystar years after it happened, and only have brought this all to light because they got fired over the not-reading-the-Doug-comment. It feels very tit-for-tat, and their daughter is sadly being re-victimized by this public announcement. They could have easily been more vague about this. So gross.
@@katel1316 I absolutely agree with you on this. 100%.
@@katel1316they stayed at Daystar because they were misled into believing that there was an internal investigation which cleared the accused. This speaks to the amount of control Joni exercised over them. They found out later that no investigation was done and that Joni ordered the whole issue be dropped. They were not in agreement with her marriage to Doug Weiss and Joni attempted to force them to submit and read comments on air praising the marriage. When they chose to remain loyal to their own convictions, Joni fired Susie. Jonathan was fired because he refused to sign an NDA. Joni gave a misleading statement to the public stating that Jonathon is trying to damage the network because he wants power and control. In reality he chose to go public to expose the truth and get justice for his daughter, since the perpetrator would not repent and the network and family chose to protect him.
@katel1316
Julie Roys and other credible sources have covered this story.
For in stance Joni weiss states in her response that Jonathan had blackmailed her .
Except Joni weiss is not telling the truth again.
Because she never let us know the whole content of that email. That jonathan had written to her.
He never blackmailed Daystar what so ever!
Julie Roys talks about this also in her reports.
@@beatrijscoughlin8802 I don't find Julie Roys credible. She is biased and completely bought in to DEI woke stuff. Does that mean I don't believe what she uncovers? No, but I don't look to her as the end-all-be-all of knowledge and higher authority.
Doug owns the polygraph company that cleared Joshua Brown of any wrongdoing. Doug threw their daughter under the bus alongside Joni. Is it no wonder they could not embrace this man and read accolades from viewers about that man who ultimately put his dog in the fight? Being willing to read the "viewers" comments was telling the viewing audience in good conscience that this man is trustworthy. That would eventually be used and held against them in court. Thank God Suzy stood on her convictions!
Love your air quotes over the “viewer comment” 😂 it was probably written by Joni herself 😂😂😂
@hannahtedeschi673 I thought about that! It was a stunt to get them to say Doug is a good man when he did just as wrong as Joni did. They tried to snag them into false pretenses! Such deception! But it backfired on them when Suzy stood her grounds. She is led of the Holy Spirit!
Another interesting tidbit is that none of the Lamb children follow Doug on instagram (or vice versa), except Doug & Joshua follow each other.
So glad Allie is addressing this
FINALLY! hope she does at least several parts so she can cover all that's come out just so far (not to mention what else we'll learn)!
I never watched Daystar. Have no idea who those people are. Never will.
You are fortunate.
Weird comment
@@heartlightsThis person is commenting on a video ABOUT Daystar. It makes sense to comment about if someone has ever heard of them or not. Hope that helps it make sense to you. God bless! ❤
You have some things wrong. Jonathan wrote this email to Joni after she was trying to press them into speaking great things about her new husband. They wanted to keep their feelings about the marriage private and she wouldnt have it. At that point Jonathan still thought the investigation had been legit and was done. It wasnt until he refused to submit to joni in this way and couldnt sign the NDA that 2 days later the investigator contacted jonathan. Thank God they werent muscled into the NDA
This pardon has little to do with Hunter rather that Joe does not want HIS own crimes revealed.
Spot on.
The email from Jonathon was in response to the situation regarding the meeting about him and Suzy not wanting to read viewer mail praising Joni’s new marriage and new husband which Jonathon and Suzy were not in agreement with. It was NOT in regards to the situation with their daughter. If you listen to the recording of that meeting in which Jimmy Evans is a part of, his email makes more sense and is less problematic. I am actually a little bit disappointed in how you covered this story. There is so much more I would’ve loved to have heard your take on the conversation in which Jimmy Evans was involved in.
Agreed...Allie Beth needs to do better research before commenting on this multi layered story. It is very significant to the body of Christ and deserves a thorough vetting and coverage!
Not surprised honestly she sometimes jumps the gun before getting the full context of what took place.
If someone is covering up your child being molested. You telling me you wouldn't be bringing it up? Yall need to wake up. And why are you fighting for your job when the person you fighting against covering up your child being molested. Smh
I have worked with children who are “at risk of abuse.” It was in the 1990’s. The children I worked with at a therapeutic preschool are now adults. I will pray for the truth to be revealed and not covered up and for Jonathan & Susie’s daughter.
Disagree about NDA... it's not normal... especially with the Lamb family that all work at Daystar.... family business.
I am waiting for Dr. Weiss’s ex-wife to speak out, but there’s nothing but crickets⁉️ I wonder if she was paid off with a NDA⁉️🤔
I read elsewhere that she had signed an NDA.
Green Bean Casserole is made with French-fried onions, which taste nothing like Funyuns, lol. And, you can use cream of chicken instead of cream of mushroom, or one can of each, like I do. I love it!
First of all, you are the first TH-cam journalist (i don't know what your official title is) to deliver the news regarding Daystar with sound discernment and from a pure and Godly heart. So refreshing. I will be listening to you--following and subscribing to your channel.
Ps Marcus Rogers also did a great job interviewing the couple.
So did LAURA-LYNN TYLER THOMPSON...very thorough.
.... maybe the first that you noticed but not the first by a long shot
Hey Allie, you should've played the audio recordings of the meeting Joni & Jimmy Evans had with Jonathan & Suzy. Evans referred to Joni as, 'The Voice of God' as far as both Jonathan & Suzy are concerned. REALLY? Evans, who was supposed to be a 'neutral party' in this meeting, NEVER reprimanded Joni for the Vulgarity she was using on her own Son & Daughter-in-Law. Words like, "bullBLEEP", or telling Suzy that she had Jonathan by the (male anatomy). Is THAT how God, or Jesus would talk to either Jonathan or Suzy if He had a meeting with them? Lastly, would Jimmy Evans, or Joni, Jonathan, or Suzy be willing to go on your Show as a Guest(s) - the worst that could happen is that they'd tell you, "No". Take care.
Who is paying the lawyers, the Daystar viewers????
Struggling viewers who have bought the lie to give until it hurts.
God is getting his house in order, and revealing the church. Just like Ps Robert Morris - I was a member for 18 years, and now I remember all the signs. I’m not going to throw stones but the silence is deafening. That church was so special to me. It breaks my heart. I always had a huge problem though with the Marcus Lamb thing, and my mom never understood it, I just couldn’t get over the cheating scandal and I don’t really know why I took that soooo serious. I think it’s the betrayal as we are “counseled” by these people…but this is all a reminder we don’t put Pastors on a Pedestal. Now Jimmy Evans, I really appreciated him, I had many conversations with these people, I am walking distance from Daystar!…I missed the part on Jimmy Evans, so I will have to come back. I always loved his speaking at Gateway and one of his books was a favorite, I remember buying 10 or 20 and just giving them out. This sadly, doesn’t surprise me though. We really must lean into the Lord and not our Christian leaders. Heartbreaking. This is the first I’m hearing so I’ll have to do some research.
God drifted me away from Daystar a few months before Marcus passed. Now I know why Jezebel Joni remains but not for long 🙏🏽
Please dont come to quick conclusions especially regarding jonathan and suzy.
I have watched closely these past years especially since Suzy and Jonathan no longer appeared on Daystar. I have been very concerned. I have very much been very fond of watching the entire family intereact on Daystar for many years. I can say with complete confidence that Jonathan is not blackmailing Daystar or his mother.
Both Suzy and Jonathan are exactly as they seem.
When this broke recently I have felt heartbroken 💔 for everyone but mostly importantly for this sweet daughter. Im leaving some links. Please do due diligence. . A clearer picture will comes into focus.
💔 The alleged perpetrator is a close family member and is being protected along with Daystars image.
Yes, its complicated. But devastating. There is religious programming, cover ups,manipulation, control and so on.
Watch The Roys Report, Jonathan and Suzy, all audio, the report from the New York Post. And i will leave a couple more links.
Jonathan and Suzy literally had to leave to another state in an undisclosed location for fear of their lives because actions turned to mafia type control. Also Jonathan's email was manipulated. 😢 Lets all certainly pray for truth, justice and healing.
th-cam.com/users/shorts2j2NQxTrVuw?si=dAsZqkp4x9J5Go0T
ABOVE First Roy's Report. She's an investigation reporter who also did reporting with IHOP.
This is principled reporting.
Laura Lynn Tyler Thomas
She was on Joni's Table Talk a year ago and has no favoritism in the mix.
She's continuing to report and pray.
th-cam.com/users/liveJ5yuuEDKEag?si=tP4s5ISZCLC-5QcP
Vic News Hub
Regarding Suzy's SA at Daystar where she was told she was not to go to the police. And the perpetrator was paid off.
th-cam.com/video/V4b4vfqdMdY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SnRddDTYhz_0QhCL
New York Post
This is spot on.
th-cam.com/video/baybsTuYxH8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JlX3iiDaB1HMLa3U
May God bring justice and healing.
Thank you for reporting on this. 🤗
Another Roy's Report (short)
th-cam.com/users/shortskycXN1f5UgE?si=9Gj8G3G0og1BarJj
Please pray for Norway. Today they passed the law for abortion to be approved up to 18 weeks. Before it was 12. Wrong direction
Maybe Joni should be demoted to managing the cafe
Or clean the bathrooms
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I listened to Laura Lynn
She had the audio of the meetings! Please listen! I was shocked by the gaslighting and Jimmy Evans acting like a bully!
Eric's wife: I deeply love and appreciate Laura's response. It was calm, wise, firm and compassionate. We need more Christians like her and responding with kindness and wisdom.
Now we know the truth about Jimmy Evens.
As a former Daystar viewer I feel that Joni lost all her spiritual strength over the years given the parade of all the prosperity "celebrity" preachers on Daystar. She and her daughters were very into the Pinterest lifestyles, and she got into that conspiracy theories real heavy with her posse of her table friends. When Marcus got sick and died, she seemed relieved, and her RBF got softer. Suddenly! She dropped 100lbs and started acting like a teenager on bubblegum overdose. And before the year was over... she's talking about "God sent a man..." But the man was always there... even with his wife on their programs! He even later gloated that he was the first one to see Marcus in his casket! So he divorces his wife weeks after Marcus died and the therapists and fake pastor that was kicked out of Gateway Church by then, Jimmy Evans... claims his wife was abusing him!!! The wedding was too soon, too expensive and too public for a ministry! The ministry jet"s flight logs get published and they look bad!!! She was always worried about her and not the image and future of the ministry or her family. They live in crazy luxury and none of that is biblical. She wrote a book, marketed the wedding video naming it a "miracle" and all that is charlatanry... GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!!
I’m glad your going to cover this Allie
I can imagine how tough it was for Jonathan to "perform" with the president of Daystar and his two sisters running the company. Joni and her two daughters ran Daystar even before Marcus passed away. Jonathan had no chance against these three and with Doug's influence it was impossible. My opinion is that Jonathan was "blocked" from all directions
Thank you Allie Beth for addressing the issue.
Allie you missed the major part of the scandal-the audio of clear spiritual abuse! This didn’t scratch the surface…
I was taken aback with Joni’s language.
I was really unnerved with Jimmy saying she was the voice of God. Hoping he meant that she was the voice of authority not the voice of God.
Also Jonathan and Suzy were recording in secret. Therefore they were careful how they responded and the words they were using. I think Suzy can be a firecracker.
I pray a proper investigation will be conducted for the alleged SA and counselling will be happen.
This family needs prayer.
When you listen to the audio the abuse anger narcissistic gas lighting that was being done to Jonathan and Suzy was so obvious it was repulsive. I had no idea how bad Jimmy was but I had suspicions about Joni and now are proven correct
The use of forensic psychologists (basically someone who is both an expert in psychology and in criminal forensics) interviews a child in a setting that isn’t as scary as having no to be questioned by the police. This individual is also a specialist with children and trauma.
The email you read was not fully shown by Joni. In the full email Jonathan was not blackmailing but asking that he be able to reinstated to VP and eventually President when Joni retired or passed. No nepotism in this story if you ask me. Joni is completely out of line and refused to solve this in private. She has had plenty of time.
DON'T FORGET THE SCANDAL WITH JONI'S DADDY!
What about Joni Daddy ??
I would really like to hear your opinion on the meeting with Jimmy Evans that everyone is talking about! It’s a huge part of the Daystar story and I would appreciate your take on it.
I agree!
After listening to the tape there is no doubt who the guilty party is. Joni and Jimmy Evans should be ashamed of themselves.
Maybe. But if your kid came in and tried to take down your billion dollar company, you may be suprised at what you would say...
Allie, you seem very confused in the time line.
A male family member (other than the child's parents parents) was caught in a hotel room with their naked child. The little girl began screaming and both Suzie and Jonathan ran up there and thats when the family member, Pete was found in the room with the child.
Joni told Jonathan not to go to the police but that she and Marcus would investigate it. They never did. They covered it up, but said they did. They lied.
However, Jonathan and Suzie did go to police and also, in August of 2024 they went to Jule Roys, of the Roys Report and reported it to her. She took 3 months to research and called Daystar for their side of the story. The next day Joni's lawyer called Jonathan and demanded he sign an NDA ( a GAG ORDER) When he refused, he was fired.
If that email HAS NO DATE ON IT, THAT SHOULD BE A HUGE CLUE TO YOU that it was written AFTER Jonathan Lamb found out that his parents coverup the child abuse and AFTER that abusive, belittling 90 minute exchange btw Joni, Jimmy Evans, Suzie and Jonathan Lamb, where Jimmy Evans tells Jinathan that Joni is the "VOICE OF GOD" and that he must submit and obey in order to stay at Daystar.
You need to research your subject more thoroughly.
As someone who has been following this story closely, this is an excellent and accurate retelling of events. We need people to report accurately on this story as it unfolds…the lives and reputations of many are at stake. May the Lord continue to bring the truth to light!
Suzy said she asked her girl to go put on her swimsuit. She saw Pete's eyes turn zombie black and follow her up. She ran and got Jonathan. Jonathan hurried up 3 flights of stairs, opened the door and found Pete in with his daughter naked. Jonathan screamed at him. Pete, shaken, said "50 times" I am sorry, I am soooo sorry, I am sorrry......
The son should hv left the family immediately. Very suspicious. I wld not go near any family member that I thought was dangerous, Including my mom or dad. Jonathan just wants a position or money.
@SC-tx5le Well that's YOU. Jonathan was raised with his parents dictating policy and was taught to SUBMIT with cultic obedience.
Don't project what you would or wouldn't do - you aren't him and wasn't raised in his family dynamic.
Joni Lamb is a Narcissist and all that matters to her is to protect the BRAND of Daystar! She could care less about her granddaughter. She was protecting Daystar.
What possible motivation would Jonathan have for “formulating a smear campaign” against his mother and the family business?🙄
@@karenmartin4221 To appease his wife? To knock his own mother out of her presidency role? Rage? Jealousy over his sister? Job security? Money? If I can’t have it, nobody can? Trying to act like what he thought a real man would act like? A hundred other reasons really. You can see how he behaved in front of his wife he is a weak man. Even his own voice and thought process betrayed him.
For being fired??
@@johnhenry9456Just listen to your statement. The mear fact Joni covering up Alleged Pete's pedophilia for molesting Jonathan and Suzie daughter is the story. You sound like your on the Joni and Jimmy Lucipherian Ideology train. Get help
He was literally set to inherit the empire. They were flying around on a private jet and taking luxury vacations. He was knowingly participating in all of this for years. He and his wife had the benefit of self-censorship in that recording.
They were assured by the parents that the investigation into the sa allegations resulted in 'pete' being cleared of wrongdoing.
The fact that the man was caught in the room with the unclothed child, period, is a problem! Right there why isn't Marcus and Joni even curious of what the heck is going on?! As a former LE officer, you don't have some examiner investigate a potential crime this serious, and then say it's all good nothing to see here. That's ridiculous!! You play it safe and protect the child, their own grandchild! I'm sorry but if that's my child and they're telling me it's nothing and I need to submit, let's just say there would be other problems for them to deal with. I'm not seeing any common sense used here, by Daystar.
He wasn't alone with her. Maybe listen to both sides and then make a decision...that is the problem with society today, everyone listens to just one side of the story...
@@truthwins1426 And when it's one's word against another's there is no way to really know...we want to have faith in the human race, but humans are humans, we can do some crazy things and when money and power are involved, well...I really won't be suprised in either one being true, but it is probably somewhere in the middle..
There is a recording of Joni and Jimmy Evans trying to verbally beat down Jonathon and Suzy into submission even going as far to state Joni is the voice of God.
Joni has forgotten that the body of Christ generally has many discerning members, and we can see right through her lies 😢
AMEN!!! Ty for this comment!!! This is what I’ve been saying to many!
Funny to hear someone who is thriving, healthy, wealthy, and likely a tither & generous giver say that God doesn’t provide these things to his faithful ones
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Jimmy Evans ministry will end too - he is being a bully
Eric's Wife: Maybe it will. But if that is its course, shouldn't you and I and others be praying for God to plant those who strive harder and walk closer to Him, having seen the price the other path takes people? Shouldn't we be praying for those hand selected by God to bring whole grain spiritual bread in what is becoming a barren wasteland spiritually?
I believe God is cleaning the church just like the government and the swamp - I have been fooled by those who profess to be Christians.
Did you watch the Roy’s report?
It’s unfortunate that Allie didn’t do all of her research before so broadly hearing a podcast on this very serious situation that deserves a spotlight as Christians on with Daystar, we should call these people out. We should hold these people accountable. We should have all the evidence and facts if we’re going to spread a message of truth and unfortunately, I don’t think that Allie did her due diligence on this horrific situation
I agree with you.
Perhaps Allie should clarify, but I don't think she is portraying herself as any kind of expert or that she has any form of inside information. She is simply pointing to this situation as negative news regarding bad actors in our Christian communities while acknowledging a possible true innocent victim of a real crime.
Allie didn't speak as if she had authority or the details.
Eric's wife: Allie is given things by her team and the interwebs is massive, I believe it may be that they are not wanting to say what they don't know as a wise journalist because this is serious, as you say. It takes time to vet other channels to see who is who and what all is being said. Multiple relatives of mine abused and enabled my abuser. Many people just don't get how confusing and discombobulating it is to hear from the side of the abuser and then also the abused.
I also hope that 100 or more minister's on the network are having a serious conversation with the network ! Only one Canadian (LAURA THOMPSON) has left the network and has spoken out on this subject....Bravo to her. What investigation is ongoing with the alleged Pete ??
Ranchers,pull your spo nsership of this person please...there has been NO investigations on any of these allegations concerning Daystar its in the beginning stages and should not be on any podcast at this point..
What if your business was in the same situation ....again please pull your sponsorship and give it to platforms of integrity not on the gaslighting ones like this that use Jesus not follow Him.
I am sooooo Thankful for my Salvation ❤
Eric's wife: Oh, didn't you hear? Jesus is a liar and Doug Wiess tells us the reason Jesus died is so we can all have great sex.
Eric's wife: Ali, although I continue to pray a pit bull save your children and you get stuck with the best pittie ever, I do thank you for covering this. As a woman who survived nearly three decades of narcissistic abuse from relatives (I cannot even call them family because they do not behave as such--it would be a lie) I want to share some thoughts on this and hopefully bring some food for thought to your audience as well. Although these are allegations, what I see is JONI being the one to double down on valuing the brand or company in this public address--not even addressing the seriousness and long lasting trauma in mind and body that this can have on anyone who is abused or has been. There is no ounce of acknowledgement that SA is serious, there is nothing vocalized as to the care of her grandbaby. It makes me physically sick like I want to puke. We may not be able to smell in the Spirit, but that is a stench to God's nostrils. 2. Joni claims Jonathan is in some sort of "smear campaign." Ok. Lemme break this down. My ex husband ten years ago and my dad both launched smear campaigns. A campaign is not a single thing, in this case a concern that Jonathan and Susie are bringing to the table. I do not see that being validated by Joni in anyway. My exe's actual smear campaign in the beginning of our divorce proceedings was just that a campaign. Not a singular concern. He went on social media lying about me over multiple things--claiming that I had left him homeless when I hadn't, when he could stay as a caretaker to his elderly parents in the house I had bought them from the inheritance left me at that juncture by my grandfather. He claimed I intended to "steal back" the house I had bought for them when I would never dream of doing such a thing. Their house is their house. Its a gift. No take backs. He told people I said that I would kill my rabbit when in fact I had said that if his rabbit got mine sick and because money was tight since we both were unemployed that if it came down to the decision I would allow the vet to peacefully put the rabbit to rest instead of allowing the animal to suffer. He also multiple times in court documentation claimed fear of me because I at the time owned a "battle axe" from Lord of the Rings when he outweighed me at least 100 pounds and had martial arts training and had a katana and I think a tanto blade. No one on social media checked him on any of that. They all called me a B word. THAT is a smear campaign. THAT is different than a legitimate concern about your child's well being. 3.If you are wondering how the guy was cleared...CHECK OUT "THE UNCTION" youtube channel. I learned that this is because the suspected individual would not answer any of the questions. Regardless, I agree with you, Ali, the legal process when it comes to child abuse definitely needs better protocol and laws in place and this brings me to my last point at least for now which I agree with "The Unction" channel. WE, we the people of God NEED TO HELP STOMP THIS OUT OF GOD'S HOUSE AND OUT OF MINISTRIES BY STRONGLY PUTTING OUR FOOT DOWN AND NOT GIVING THIS "PERCIEVED" ...PERCEIVED "WHOLESOME" Entertainment the money God gives us. As a survivor of abuse, I am invested in this and care deeply and grieve deeply about the grandchild. Joni putting that out on the airwaves for her grandchild to see as she grows older to look back on and see the shameful cowardice of her grandmother not even considering how her granddaughter would feel watching that. I understand many people use the term "follow" in the world of social media but we as believers are not meant to "Follow" daystar, we're meant to follow Jesus. We all need to get that in our thick heads! And last but not least regarding the absolute ridiculousness of Joni being the voice of God at daystar...God is not confined to the daystar building. He is not confined to the property, the parking lot, none of that. The voice of God is living and its in the WORD. Its in alignment with the WHOLE counsel of God in Scripture. Love ya'll and grace be with you. Continue to be the Bereans, grow in wisdom, understanding, knowledge and discernment. Continue as good and faithful servants.
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I believe the little girl. I also think 🤔 asking your son to sign a NDA is Evil 👿 . Joni is upset over the fact her son expressed his disgust with her marriage to someone who divorced his wife of 30 years, due to non Biblical reasons. In God eye 👁 he is not divorced.
There is nothing Christian about DayStar
Most people already know who "Pete" is mow. He was with Joni in hospital when Marcus died.
Where was Johnathan her own son?
Jimmy Evans the big bully of Daystar!!!!
They are both narcissists!!!!
Jonathan and Suzy were there when Marcus passed. Suzy closed his eyes.
@@heartlights After Marcus had already passed they entered the room.
My son, 25, doesn't like traditional Thanksgiving food. Per his request, one year we made bbq brisket and mac and cheese. It was great!
Allie, the name is just "Daystar" not "Charismatic Daystar"! Do not do a broad-brush slam on those who consider themselves as charismatic! That is not necessary and it's unbiblical to do this. The terrible circumstances surrounding Joni Lamb and Daystar needs to be addressed but keep it as it is and don't use it to smear others.
She’s using charismatic as a description.
I agree, Allie should not be using this platform to tear down another denomination.
Thank you for all you do to share important topics with us Allie. There is SO MUCH MORE detail and truly tragic information regarding the Daystar story. It is apparent that God is purging false teachers and deceivers in the American religious institutions and groups… bringing light to areas of great darkness. God help us as we look to Him for our own sanctification.🙏🏻
I have some feelings about this. Speaking for myself, I think I was lead to give up way too much power to the church. Well, to authority figures. (Maybe not all of you were.) It could be many factors temperament, personally, family of origin. etc This just frustrates me. Why are we taught not to trust our gut? I was told by a former pastor wife to never trust myself. That never set well with me. This leads to abuse. In the back of my mind, I need to trust my pastor and do what he says. I need to do what my spouse say. Am I a child? If I disagree that is rebellion. Very frustrating. Aren't you tired of people getting away with horrible things in the name of God? Just call me a rebel then. This type of thing makes me never to ever want anything to do with ministry.
Gothard protocol seeped into many places and exerted a lot of influence in the 1980s and this is the generation who is promoting this error. Most people do not even know where this came from or how they ended up thinking this way. Also, churches need to be more aware of how grooming happens but not just for children but how this manipluation is worked upon adults.
But you’re exactly the kind of person who needs to be in ministry. If anything, to teach young women this. When we’re saved, our gut is often the Holy Spirit. We’re commanded not to quench Him. Just call me a rebel then, too.😉
The child is telling the truth.
Simple sweetheart.
The apple commercial makes me cry every time too!! I’m a new mom, my baby girl is 9 months. You’re so right, I now see her in every child
I hope you cover Joni's response to each of these allegations and also ask Jonathan and Suzy why they took their daughter back to the annual family retreat and once again shared a house with "Pete" if they thought any abuse occurred. Also, how exactly did "Pete" abused their daughter when "Pete" was in the room holding a 1-year-old baby and another 8-year-old relative was also in the room at the same time! The eight-year-old asked Pete to go into the room so he could show "Pete" the view from the window. The daughter ran into the room to get her swimsuit on so she could go in the pool.
I was hoping you would cover this devastating Daystar story.
We need to pray for justice and healing for this mess. So many ministers and churches have gone down these last few years. Recently Beth Moore had to break with Southern Gospel denom for related issues. Let's pray and show humility. None of us are better than anyone or too righteous to fall or fail. Gal.6:1-5, 7-10.🙏🙏🙏
Joni snd Jimmy in the meeting was the definition of “lording their power” over others.
I pray that Jonathan doesn’t come under the same kinda of control from his wife that he did with his mother!!! His wife has those same characteristics as his mother has!!! He needs to be a STRONG MAN that his father wasn’t!!!
Thank you for crying at that commercial Allie! I have three kids that aren't babies anymore and it made me cry too!!!! 💕
You left out a lot. Go to Roys Report for more details with full emails, recordings, and attempting to bring light
Two very different stories. Pray for this spiritual battle this family is going through 🙏🏼
Wow, you should really research things before you go online and say what you don't know. this was ridiculous
yes this should stay in the dark- wow
Please, if you suspect that your child is being molested or otherwise abused, even by a family member and/or person at your workplace, do not confront someone for a discussion, don't go to your parents or their parents or the boss or whoever it is. Go directly to the police. There is no discussion to be had. People with vested interests to cover up such crimes often will do so, even and sometimes especially when it involves family members. There are also still states that have statutes of limitations on crimes like this. I guess either the state in question here doesn't or the statute hadn't run out yet so they police are able to try to get to the bottom of this, which is good. Whatever is going on, I pray for the little girl involved. Like Allie said, either way she's a victim here and she doesn't deserve that.
Prophetically speaking from The Word when Joni passes away Doug is going to get the whole ministry Doug saw money and he saw the fun from now until she passes awY
Eventually Doug will not.like.thw control that Joni has on him and will get tired of that
Check the timeline and read any quote in context as that email was not about the incident you are discussing. She was unhappy he shared his convictions about her marriage to a recently divorced man, etc. Bear in mind that the son was on the board and many on church circles do not understand fiduciary responsibility. Lauralyn Tyler Thomson and Roys Report has laid out the timeline. The kind of submission protocol indicated upon a closer look is found within many church organizations, and seems to come from the Gothard cult influencing HR practices across denomenations (not just charismatic ones) . Also, many TH-camrs have been served legal papers for even commenting about this story.
We heard the tape. You are not honoring God Joni
Thank you for talking on this! I’ve followed daystar for years now and it’s very confusing! I’ve listened to both sides so I’m excited to hear your response!
Allie I would love someone to interview Doug’s ex wife. What is the real story? Did she really abandon Doug?
That’s exactly what I was thinking too! Someone needs to interview Doug’s ex-wife about what really happened. I find it extremely weird that Doug and his ex-wife would protray that they had a solid marriage and would do marriage seminars and counseling but all of a sudden Doug says she abandon him while he was doing “grief” counseling with Joni Lamb and then she would start dating him shortly after Marcus passed away….so strange….I definitely want to hear his ex-wife side on this.
Joni is Doug’s 3rd wife. No wonder her son is upset. Not sure I would go to Doug for marriage counseling. The internet seems to indicate he may have been unfaithful to both. Supposedly he is a recovered sex addict. Hmmm
As per the Roys report the counselor who counseled Doug and his ex-wife came to Joni to warn her about Doug as she knew the real reason the marriage ended. Joni would not listen. The counselor wrote a letter of concern to the family who met with Joni. Joni allowed them 60 seconds each to express their concerns then flew off to meet Doug.
Only God can judge. I do believe something happened to Jonathan and Suzie Lamb's daughter. Children do not make these claims up at the age of 5!!
Only the people involved and God knows the " truth."
I watched the Roy's report and listened to Joni & Jimmy & Jonathan and Suzie.
I continue to pray 🙏🏽 for healing for this entire family. ❤❤❤ 😢 ALMIGHTY GOD WILL EXPOSE THE
" TRUTH." I did not watch this video of ALLY after reading the many comments.
Wow! At what company can you reveal personal allegations about any employee, publicly. Sounds like Jonathan has cause for legal action. That aside, What a HORRIBLE MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER! 😲
Full disclosure and transparency should be whatbwe all sign as believers. Full accountability.
This is a very sensitive and complex situation that needs properly researching in order to share the facts with us. The Roys report took at least 4 months to extensively research before publishing the articles. (Jonathan and Suzy said they want to Julie Roys in July) I believe the Roys report to be very thorough in their investigation. However, this would appear not to be. Many thanks
Jimmy Evans should have his pastoral credentials removed by his ordination organization for his clergy abuse.
All due respect given, but when you call Daystar a Christian network, you lend credibility to these wolves. Just because a program utters the Lord’s name doesn’t qualify it as one that offers sound teaching. You might as well be discussing any contemporary organization.
Do not contaminate your children with toxic substances. Protect from Pfyser.
The "episode" is referring to a viewer comment about Doug that they were uncomfortable reading.
I've been chasing the things of this world again and got lost, I have found my way back to Jesus. I am encouraged by Allie creating a space for us to come without throwing morals out the window.
As far as the prosperity gospel, there is no such thing. But there is the Gospel of the Kingdom and within that Kingdom Gospel is financial prosperity. God even says in Malachi to test Him in this and see that He will pour out a blessing so big we won't be able to contain it! Paul spoke about "giving and receiving" Receiving is a very big part of giving. Paul told the Philippians that he wanted them to give so that it would ABOUND TO THEIR ACCOUNT! Many Christians miss this and think that it is Godly to be poor. No it is not! God is a God of abundance and He wants us prosperous so that we can abound to every good work - whoever is in need - we can meet that need. But you must be mature in that money doesn't control you but that you control it.
Eric's wife: well being a thing and its power are two different things.
I would never pardon my son with his criminal activity. I don’t pardon him now with his misbehavior. I would not do it at a larger scale. I am an advocate for consequences.
Why would parents use their child in this way? I don’t believe Joni at all
It sounds like blackmail to me when you offer not to release secret tapes, if reinstated as president or reinstated with specific jobs and all of that. The entire thing stinks. Nobody handled things correctly and this should not be a public feud.
I never doubted he'd pardon Hunter. Was just a matter of time. Sucks, but it was gonna happen
There's an extended version of the Volvo commercial that absolutely WILL make you cry! The pregnant woman who is crossing the street almost gets hit by a car driven by an inattentive driver, but she doesn't because the car is a Volvo and it stopped on a dime. And the whole time you're aware that that car might hit her, that she might die and so all of his hopes and dreams and nerves that he's talking to his mother might be cut tragically short but then it doesn't and it cuts to her in the bed with her newborn baby with him beside her. It's such a great commercial, way better than the Jaguar ad. The Jaguar ad was weird and it didn't make me interested in buying a Jaguar, but the Volvo ad makes me want to immediately run out and buy a Volvo because that ad made me so happy and brought up so many positive emotions and thoughts.
The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Follow the money…always.
Let it go.... family should not fight with one another....Suzy and Jonathan should be more forgiving