When a pro-National Service caller rang in with her thoughts…

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  • @mattp1511
    @mattp1511 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Teens are glued to their smartphones... wanna know why?
    Online shopping
    Online banking
    Online doctors
    Online utility bills
    Online education
    Online social media
    Online bloody everything!!
    These days, if you aren't online, you're cut off from modern life

  • @12theotherandrew
    @12theotherandrew 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    You are SO RIGHT! As a retired teacher, the despair I feel for my former pupils is painful. This government has no idea at all how to support young people, and doesn’t care.

  • @davidgalpin7353
    @davidgalpin7353 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Respect has too be earned, it is not a God given right.

  • @Breadnaught-td4ej
    @Breadnaught-td4ej 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Caller: "I'm going to call a TV show and use a national platform to voice sweeping generalizations, badmouthing entire cross sections of the population with insulting stereotypes. Then I'll complain that they aren't showing enough respect."
    If you find people aren't showing you respect in your life, it's probably because you haven't earned any respect.

    • @jstoner9029
      @jstoner9029 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Spot on.

  • @rolon-will3362
    @rolon-will3362 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Britain will be lucky if the next generation of our brightest and best don’t all leave. This country doesn’t deserve them.

    • @larzkruber822
      @larzkruber822 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hope you guys get a free media one day
      that actually can criticize the people in power

    • @rolon-will3362
      @rolon-will3362 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@larzkruber822 I get the point, but the looney right wing billionaire owned press will be definitely criticising Labour, instantly blaming them for 14 years of Tory failure, the moment they take office. It’s an impartial and fair journalistic class we need to get back. Integrity and freedom are different beasts.

    • @TheLampini
      @TheLampini 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have been too impoverished to move, and brexit took AWAY their freedom of movement. I see more crime and riots ahead, they can only squeeze people so far..

  • @kaydoubleyou6203
    @kaydoubleyou6203 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Thank god there’s people like you on TV Marina, some common sense in this crazy world! 🙏🏻🙂

    • @johnou.k.3780
      @johnou.k.3780 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely no sense from her

  • @barrysteven5964
    @barrysteven5964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    As a recently retired high school teacher I have worked with teenagers since 1982. I can tell you that in my experience working in normal high schools in Merseyside and Tyneside two things strike me. One is that the vast majority of young people are fantastic. They are polite, kind and witty. There are a group who are selfish, unpleasant and unco-operative with awkward parents but I remember exactly the same kind of families back in the 1980s. Not much has changed so those of you who think there weren't people like that in 'the old days' are just wrong. They're just all on social media now making more noise.
    Second thing is that it is the world and life that has changed not the fundamental nature of young people. They have different pressures, worries and priorities in their lives. Some things are better for them and others are worse. I think on the whole in the past ten years it's got much worse. I remember more working class kids being encouraged, doing well in school and going on to do well in life.

    • @dynamo0255
      @dynamo0255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This might be the most rational comment on here.

    • @slayerrocks2
      @slayerrocks2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would hate to be a kid now.
      Bullying doesn't stop at the door, with social media now.
      There is a record of everything, true or false, that follows them everywhere.
      Trends change at the drop of a hat.
      The pressure to grow up in such an environment must be suffocating.

  • @evertonfrancis640
    @evertonfrancis640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    How about spending the money that would be used on a supposed “ National Service “ and instead investing it in training young people to be bricklayers, engineers, teachers, nurses, doctors etc. You know really useful skilled people that this country needs.

    • @Simes158
      @Simes158 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You can pack that in RIGHT now. That's common sense, and we don't do common sense round these 'ere parts... 😒

    • @neilbower9052
      @neilbower9052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Simes158 yes we do, the tories have a common sense minister......

    • @evertonfrancis640
      @evertonfrancis640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Simes158 Sorry about that, I lost my mind for a moment lol!

  • @tiger131071
    @tiger131071 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    'How have you managed to get Brexit in there...' he asks.
    Well, because Brexit has infected absolutely everything!

    • @markwelch3564
      @markwelch3564 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Plus that one wasn't shoehorned, it was a wide open goal

    • @RubbishGimpy
      @RubbishGimpy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only the minds of people who want to blame others. Grow up and move on. Sum's everything up about this who video. You took something away from us so why should we try.

    • @markwelch3564
      @markwelch3564 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RubbishGimpy there's plenty of people trying - but not trying to make Brexit work, because that's a doomed project, and not buying into the "work hard" myth, because working hard for the already rich is a mugs game

    • @tiger131071
      @tiger131071 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RubbishGimpy You just can't face reality, got your head in the sand Gimpy. You don't want to see it because you can't admit you were wrong. Too big an ego?

  • @george150799
    @george150799 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I have twin son's, one is in the RAF (absolutely loves it) the other just earned his BSc degree and shudder's at the thought of military service, this is a policy made on the hoof, desperate measures from this tory shite.

  • @aw9221
    @aw9221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Marina is too smart not to have her own show on prime time!!!!

  • @Ronald-o9x
    @Ronald-o9x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Further, marina has a talent that not many people have! She keeps calm and collected, doesn't offend anyone, but still wins the argument! Not many can do that! A true rising star and I wish her well❤❤ !!🎉

  • @glyngasson8450
    @glyngasson8450 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    I have 4 children, one works for a university, one is a social worker, one is a teacher and volunteers for childline at the weekend and the youngest is studying to be an engineer and delivers parcels for Amazon at the weekend. All incredibly hard working, with 5 degrees between them. My generation (boomers), had everything handed to them on a plate, free further education, mass employment and cheap housing, but they think the kids are having it easy.

    • @davidhoward4715
      @davidhoward4715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I am a boomer and I agree 100% with this.

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a classic example of confirmation bias.

    • @johnou.k.3780
      @johnou.k.3780 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You’ve raised them well, but there a plenty of others that need a kick up the arse

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johnou.k.3780 as there were from the older generations. Teddy Boys and Mods for example.

    • @glyngasson8450
      @glyngasson8450 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnou.k.3780 and that was exactly the same when I was growing up

  • @The8224sm
    @The8224sm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "The Army doesn't want people who don't want to be there."

  • @InterestedParty25
    @InterestedParty25 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Quite blummin' right Marina! The amount of disdain for young people is disturbing. I'm nearing state pension age, and I've experienced so much more disrespect & bigotry from old gits than I have from youngsters. This Nat Service dead cat has brought this disparity to the fore. That caller won't have done it herself, the hypocrite 🤬

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Many boomers were too young for national service.

    • @webz3589
      @webz3589 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not just boomers. Gen x'ers are also dreadfull

  • @tomtheeagle1
    @tomtheeagle1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Anybody who has ever seen off duty military personnel out on the town in places like Aldershot or Colchester would not want their children anywhere near them. Normal civilians stay well away from their haunts and also dread them when certain regiments are in town. This idea is a nonsense and a gimmick that just shows how out of touch these people are!

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A friend of mine used to live in Aldershot, he's told me some horror stories about off-duty personnel attacking innocent civilians while on the town.

    • @webz3589
      @webz3589 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is in a conservatives nature to be out of touch with what people want.

  • @jonathanwetherell3609
    @jonathanwetherell3609 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Look at the countries that have low youth crime, like Denmark. They have long invested in youth groups, halls, sports facilities and crime prevention projects. This costs money, about the same as the savings from reduced crime.

    • @richardmartin9961
      @richardmartin9961 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true. I have lived in Denmark for over forty years (from UK). The difference is that here we see the young as an investment not as a liability. Have never understood why so many vote for the Tories who are only interested in keeping the status quo.

    • @malikrahman8649
      @malikrahman8649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They also only have a population of just over 6 million people to look after. Apples and oranges my dear.

    • @jonathanwetherell3609
      @jonathanwetherell3609 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@malikrahman8649 Six million less in the way of resources. The size of population is not a relevant factor. Expenditure /head is the factor. Apples and apples my dear.

    • @jonathanwetherell3609
      @jonathanwetherell3609 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardmartin9961 A legacy of the English class system plus thinking skills are not taught. Add in the traditional right wing meme of "lock 'em up and throw away the key!" Yes m' Lord, quite right m' Lord.

  • @GraemeRoberts
    @GraemeRoberts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    What's with the dude objecting to Brexit being raised like it wasn't a massive kick in the particulars to younger people? Is he still sleeping with his less useful blue passport?

    • @CertifiedSlamboy
      @CertifiedSlamboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Classic Brexit numpty.
      "Please don't bring that up" mentality

  • @peterdollins3610
    @peterdollins3610 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1960 I was a fireman on the GWR Steam Engines. The realities of Conscription were pretty foul from all of those coming out after two years in the forces. So I was elated to miss all that, just, as were the hundreds of young men I knew. Last year the Americans said the UK Armed forces are no longer a serious force. This gimmick is designd to distract from that reality the Tories created.

  • @andyzandy4999
    @andyzandy4999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Getting 18 year olds to do the similar sort of work criminal offenders are given doesn't make any sense. Also, what happens to those that work weekends or those studying for A levels or B Tecs. Finally, some are doing their Duke of Edinburgh or volunteering elsewhere so what happens to them?

  • @mark_tolver
    @mark_tolver 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Anyone who supports National Service should volunteer their own kids and grandkids and have to tell them to their faces, otherwise they’re hypocrites.

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Already have

    • @syleshwhycantileavethisbla802
      @syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Danxr-k4jI foresee an "inexpensive" care home in your future.

    • @AndrewKay
      @AndrewKay 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not volunteering if you force someone else to do it.

    • @mark_tolver
      @mark_tolver 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Danxr-k4j How’d it go?!😂 I assume you’re volunteering the same amount of time in moral support?

  • @EthanKristopherHartley
    @EthanKristopherHartley 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    You're being very generous by calling them "thoughts" Marina. It's a kneejerk reaction to a kneejerk announcement made by a desperate and soggy man who just wants to move to the California sun with his money. Oh, and I suppose he'll have to take his family too. 😉

  • @brendonferrier7081
    @brendonferrier7081 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Clearly the boats and other distractions aren’t working. So let’s pick a new one 🤔🤔

  • @eamonnpotts5063
    @eamonnpotts5063 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Two weeks ago Sunak was saying what a dangerous world it is …….. que potentially sending our 18yr olds off to fight! I wonder if his kids sign up!
    What a man!

  • @timcastle1844
    @timcastle1844 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Most of the people wanting the return of National Service actually missed out on doing so themselves because it was scrapped before they came of age.

  • @GlennLeinster
    @GlennLeinster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Well said Marina keep telling the truth you have to earn respect

  • @davemc9268
    @davemc9268 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    My dad was born in Sept' 1939 and would of turned 85 this year, and yet was to young for National Service. So I can only assume that all these idiots who cheer National Service are 86 years or older. Otherwise, they don't know sht about it.

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Outstanding post, absolutely spot on.

  • @leet3207
    @leet3207 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    every generation gets called lazy when they are kids. When i was a kid the same labels were placed on my generation as they are today because the generation before me had it harder than my generation. The kids of today when they get older they will moan about he next generation of kids and so on and so forth.

  • @scroggins100
    @scroggins100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Truth is, no matter what your age, one earns respect and earning it is a good thing.

  • @stephenle-surf9893
    @stephenle-surf9893 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I believe in national service ever since I became too old to do it. Al Murray hit the nail on the head with that statement.

  • @peterclarke7006
    @peterclarke7006 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    If you're pro national service, then please feel free to volunteer. It's 18+.they haven't put an age restriction on it that I'm aware of, so off you go.
    Have fun 😂

    • @skasteve6528
      @skasteve6528 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well currently there are tests before you can join the forces. They don't just take anyone. Those people wouldn't pass the inteligence test, let alone the physical.

  • @jimmywellroks
    @jimmywellroks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love the 'how did you manage to get Brexit into National Service' line when you're talking about the wellbeing of young Brits. as if the two aren't intrinsically linked

  • @mochan8447
    @mochan8447 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Purkiss, you Star! In a dark, dark sky!

  • @andypandy9013
    @andypandy9013 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The youngest living National Serviceman is now 84 years old.
    She should have asked the caller how old her Dad is. 🙂

  • @brianpark8758
    @brianpark8758 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I`ve got a lot of respect & faith in the younger people of this country, compared to the older people that have royally f#cked it all up.

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤦‍♂️

    • @fredatlas4396
      @fredatlas4396 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @brianpark8758
      Totally agree with you 👍

    • @drunkengamer1977
      @drunkengamer1977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@user-ys7fx6ld5g There it is again 6 month old profile seems legit 😂

  • @valmirius
    @valmirius 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Make the country worth serving before you demand this nonsense

  • @profoto7
    @profoto7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can’t you tell that history was not everyone’s favourite subject, we forget that us 60’s kids have been through every major change in society and technology over the last 40years and we made the best of it. I would not like to be starting a family or career today, it’s tough being young today.

  • @simon19162
    @simon19162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The problem with young people today is they are always fighting and marching. Put them in the army- that will stop them fighting and marching!!!!

    • @abbofun9022
      @abbofun9022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure boomer

    • @TheLampini
      @TheLampini 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good 1 😂

    • @freddiejohnson6137
      @freddiejohnson6137 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every generation has blamed the younger generations for being the problem. They aren't the ones that shape society it's usually people much older and I will guarantee you parents said the same thing about your generation. This time it actually is though right and not every generation the preceded them to get them to this point.

    • @simon19162
      @simon19162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@abbofun9022 It appears you have no sense of humour. Luckily for you this counts as a disability and you will be exempted from military service!

    • @TheLampini
      @TheLampini 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ambivalentsheep 😂😂

  • @kennethwalsh8804
    @kennethwalsh8804 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Parents,and Schools, should teach ,Good manners, respect and obedience.
    NOT the Army.

    • @davidhoward4715
      @davidhoward4715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most parents and schools *_do_* teach good manners, respect and obedience.

    • @peng9179
      @peng9179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Parents teach good manners, respect and obedience. Schools educate.

    • @georgebeswick7549
      @georgebeswick7549 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell that to every School located on a Forces Base abroad (I grew up in Cyprus and pretty much all my classmates are in the military)

    • @bigjobbies
      @bigjobbies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Teaching kids obedience to whom, brain dead teachers who pimp for a greedy psychopathic ruling class. You are out of your tiny mind, they don't deserve respect

  • @thebazgaz
    @thebazgaz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    No-one under 85 has done any national service so to even it up, I say let's make every pensioner under 85 spend 1 weekend a month working in social care for free.
    IMAGINE THE DAILY MAILS RESPONSE!

  • @gerardskippon3099
    @gerardskippon3099 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am 67 years old and I am getting more and more hacked off with Not the UK But people of my age (and above) trotting out the same Swill about the "youth of today" and not thinking or caring about how they feel.

  • @stephenphillips4609
    @stephenphillips4609 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Like any successful relationship, society is a 2 way thing. Any society that demands respect & cooperation while giving nothing in return, will always struggle with loyalty, with productivity etc because people will cooperate with the minimum of enthusiasm, if you're lucky. Value humans and you will get much in return. Why would any young person these days value the UK when that society has taken so much from them even before they were old enough to have a say? The UK demands loyalty without giving it in return....therefore does not deserve it from young people.

  • @thl205
    @thl205 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We can end the debate quite simply with the fact that the Tories will never be able to implement this idea within the budget suggested. They have cocked up every single national scar project with huge taxpayer waste 😮

  • @jimjam3877
    @jimjam3877 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's a stupid idea that's unworkable just on a practical level. Everything that the Tories come up with feels like a punishment, I don't even think they know they're doing it, sometimes. They couldn't even set it up so that there was some kind of gratuity/incentive factored in at the end of the year. With them, everything has the effect of making life more shit.

  • @alexfielding8411
    @alexfielding8411 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    100% - in order to feel “national” pride and a sense of maybe serving it is a good thing and a fair trade, you actually have to give them a good start - this is the epitome of pulling up yet another ladder those making the decision climbed but “did it themselves”

  • @widgibob27
    @widgibob27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why don't they just go the whole hog and make all eighteen year old have a year in a "re-education centre"

  • @james-0440
    @james-0440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Todays "youth" will never own anything why woukd they fight for that ?

  • @JP-hu8wi
    @JP-hu8wi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That woman on the phone sounded pretty stupid

  • @RodHargreaves
    @RodHargreaves 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Does anyone watch this s*t programme anymore?

  • @jasonk7072
    @jasonk7072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Compulsory Home Guard, that’s what we need 😂

    • @minimoog4236
      @minimoog4236 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You tell em, Pike. Oh...

  • @HadrianWise
    @HadrianWise 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Perhaps if there were jobs available that would pay them enough to live on and houses they could afford, young people would see more point in wage slavery.

  • @richardclarke82008
    @richardclarke82008 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Im 37 and they took so much away from us and the younger generation we have no pride left. I certainly dont.

    • @apemoon1731
      @apemoon1731 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Behave 🤦🏻‍♂️😅
      What have 'they' taken away from you?

    • @arghjayem
      @arghjayem 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@apemoon1731 The ability to buy a house a a reasonable price, NHS dentistry, the state of the NHS in general, free university, all the benefits of EU membership…

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@apemoon1731 jobs for life. free education. cheap housing and rent. i could go on but you dont care anyway do you?

    • @memyselfeye662
      @memyselfeye662 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see that you are yet to receive a response to your question 😆

  • @stevebell6057
    @stevebell6057 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The video should have been titled - "Marina tells it like it is"

  • @Lord_Falcon
    @Lord_Falcon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The vast majority of young people work and will work for their entire lives. They try to progress in life but it's been made impossible for most. How can you expect people to willing to do military service if they have no hope of ever having retirement, can't afford to have kids and have no spare cash after rent, food and bills for anything to enjoy in life?

  • @hg82met
    @hg82met 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    It's the austerity and Brexit chickens coming home to roost, and Tories are pretending as if all the problems we're facing happened in a vacuum.

    • @SpartasEdge
      @SpartasEdge 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Brexit chickens coming home to roost? Just like that ridiculous girl in the studio, you aren't making any sense.
      So tell me, what does the youth not being respected, have to do with Brexit exactly?
      It's funny that the only people you still see moaning about brexit, are the ones that were always against it from the start, or EU citizens; which of those two are you? You'd be hard pressed to find any brexiteersvsay say they regret leaving tge EU or asking for another referendum to go back in; it's just people like you moaning about it, the same as you always did.

    • @CertifiedSlamboy
      @CertifiedSlamboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@SpartasEdge
      Cos the young overwhelming didn't want it and we were forced to go with it anyway cos the older generations wanted it (ie fell for the lies of Boris and his cronies). Young people need to deal with Brexit for a LOT longer than old Margaret who will be dead in 5yrs.

    • @hgv1883
      @hgv1883 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Talking nonsense

    • @Indicasativa55
      @Indicasativa55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Brexit 😂

    • @alexanstey1742
      @alexanstey1742 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@SpartasEdgethat's just not true is it? All I've heard for years is brexiters whining about Brexit i.e "that's not the deal we wanted/we could have gotten a better deal" without actually being able to mention what that looks like.
      Of course remainers are criticizing Brexit, it's been an absolute disaster and we are all feeling the pinch of a corrupt government that have slashed public services and have wasted our money / given it away to crony donors.
      I'm glad that you're still proud of this absolute nonsense, someone has to be.

  • @jonbell3020
    @jonbell3020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This lady needs to be in government.

  • @niccolamachiavelli8094
    @niccolamachiavelli8094 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm in my early 70's and was a teenager in the late 60s and early 70s and repeatedly heard the phrase "teenagers today have no respect for anything, they should bring back National Service." I am now of the generation, although not personally, who are now saying this. Undoubtedly, when the present generation reaches their later years, they'll make the same type of statement about their youths

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My dad is also of the boomer generation and was told by his elders that his generation had no respect etc etc.

  • @barryboom717
    @barryboom717 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I imagine the caller was from the generation that brought antisocial youth subcultures like Mods, Rockers, Hippies, Punks coupled with an explosion in drug use. The boomer generation that avoided national service but, according to her metrics, seemed like they definitely could've done with it.

  • @robertlough1685
    @robertlough1685 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Well done Marina though it was a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent.
    She was as thick as mince but so certain in her opinions.
    That's how brexit happened!

  • @JP-hu8wi
    @JP-hu8wi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Aren’t Tories supposed to be all about individual freedom and minimal government interference - this idea is the antithesis to this - classic Tory hypocrisy and stupidity

    • @skasteve6528
      @skasteve6528 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The freedom & minimal government interference only applies to the elite.

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But this is a Labour policy after WW2 ended. They stopped it in 1960. This has been happening for centuries. Why should today be any different?

    • @JP-hu8wi
      @JP-hu8wi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Danxr-k4j not sure what it being a labour policy has to do with this current conservative policy being a contract to traditional “conservative values” and the irony of calling it it voluntary yet mandatory in the same sentence. Why should today be any different? Im guessing you’re a boomer? - see Marina’s points for why today is different. Three words - broken social contract

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JP-hu8wi Wrong not a boomer. Just my opinion on how it should be. Many countries in the EU have this policy and it works for them. It’s not compulsory, at 18 yo, they will have choice to serve in the military or work at weekends servicing the community. Not enough discipline in the younger generation (again my opinion). The fact that many military personnel (that I know at least) don’t even want this to happen speaks volumes about youth of today. Again not a boomer, just airing my views. Either way I cannot see this getting passed into law. So I do feel like this is a pointless exercise.

    • @JP-hu8wi
      @JP-hu8wi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Danxr-k4j the plan IS for it to be compulsory. They just call it volunteering because of gaslighting. And they haven’t worked out how to an enforce the compulsory side (i.e. prosecutions against them or their parents etc.). And it’s not work if you don’t get paid - that’s the “volunteering” part which is actually compulsory (sometimes called slavery). So no part time jobs for these kids then? Income lost to them for a benefit to the country that prefers not to pay its service providers properly (or at all clearly). Also military personal don’t want to have to look after temp recruits even if they did choose that as their service of choice.

  • @lloroshastar6347
    @lloroshastar6347 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    True, respect is earned, not given. But this idea that the young 'don't have respect' is repeated by every generation ever, it's absolute twaddle.

  • @Ronald-o9x
    @Ronald-o9x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Marina for prime minister and Gemma Forte as deputy and chancellor!! Your country demands it!!

  • @paulmoorby2297
    @paulmoorby2297 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The Daily Mail Readers Are Masterbaiting ,LMFAO

  • @fredatlas4396
    @fredatlas4396 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Young people should make the effort to vote. Vote tactically to get rid of these selfish tories if you don't want to do time in the armed forces. If you don't want to do national service vote to get rid of the tories

  • @mookyzook
    @mookyzook 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love the way most of the negative comments on here are made by people who managed to dodge national service themselves yet think it's OK for this generation to be called up. Perhaps that's what she means by it's no wonder that they haven't got a lot of respect for the older generation with an attitude like that? To be honest the youth of any age have always disagreed with their elders and I definitely had my own issues with the older generation when I was young, it's so easy to forget this when we age and quite hypocritical. We certainly had a lot more opportunities when we were younger.

    • @Murph_82
      @Murph_82 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd of been happy to do it.. in fact I wish I would of, who knows where I'd be now. Ya tit

    • @davidmccann9811
      @davidmccann9811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was one of the generation that managed to "dodge" National Service (Gen X). Ironically though, when I left school in the early 80s there was mass unemployment (thanks Thatcher) so I ended up in the army and Northern Ireland anyway. Personally I don't think any generation should be forced to join the armed forces unless the country is at risk of attack (as per WW2). I wouldn't want my grandchildren to join up unless it was what they wanted to do.

  • @skasteve6528
    @skasteve6528 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The young, like many others, are angry with their government's hypocracy, ineptitude & blatant profiteering of their position. Perhaps training them in the use of firearms might not yield the results that the government is anticipating.

  • @user-s1o3nr532
    @user-s1o3nr532 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    My apologies for all the boomers on here saying how we only achieved through hard work and how today's generation want something for nothing.
    It's a lie.
    We got free education, free NHS, free dental treatment - housing was affordable, public services were in good shape and the there was a realistic path to prosperity.
    None of us got what we have by our efforts alone.

  • @1markdun
    @1markdun 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I served in the armed forces and believe me, we have among the best armed forces in the world because everyone is a volunteer.
    Speak to pretty much anyone who has served since national service ended and they will tell you the exact same thing.
    Community service is something totally different but should be voluntary and could maybe used as a way of gaining credits against student loans

    • @zpopinfresh
      @zpopinfresh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like that credit idea, because the rich kids who can afford uni will just avoid NS, so at least give extra incentive to the others. Nice little leveller. But in no way should NS touch the armed forces.

  • @blink93221
    @blink93221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    All the people calling for this are people that wouldn't do it themselves. Would sunak have done it in his teens ? Would he F***

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I was 20 years younger I’d do it in a second. Many of my friends joined up back in the day and the discipline these guys have is amazing. I’m shocked so many in here are moaning sooooo much. If we went to war with another country, the first thing all this pricks on here would say is “where’s our military to save the day”.

    • @drunkengamer1977
      @drunkengamer1977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Danxr-k4j6 month old profile you're not a real person 😂

    • @JohnClark-ew8dh
      @JohnClark-ew8dh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Danxr-k4j if you'd happily be carted off to who knows where to face possible death, or indeed kill someone, just so some parcels can get through to be delivered then more fool you. You certainly wouldnt be fighting/dying in honour

    • @davidhoward4715
      @davidhoward4715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Danxr-k4j You know the Tories have no intention of bringing back national service. It's not a policy; it's a distraction tactic and an election gimmick. You mob really are this desperate.

    • @blink93221
      @blink93221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Danxr-k4j LOL pricks says the 🔔 end, if we went to war everyone able would be called up, people would fight for the country. Forcing kids to do something isn't going to solve it. Why not say everyone 40 and under ?

  • @michaelgoode9555
    @michaelgoode9555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Anybody else noticed that the party of low taxes is throwing expensive pledges like confetti? Bribes for pensioners, national service for our youngsters, ...

    • @kevinshanahan6064
      @kevinshanahan6064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes and pensioners got Fork All from the NI reduction. Now with an election Sunak remembers then suddenly.
      Johnson 2019 - I will increase the basic rate of tax threshold from £50,000 to £80,000. 2024 it is £50,270.

  • @Curleyguitars
    @Curleyguitars 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Only millennials eat avocados, and at this point all our knees are shot and our backs hurt.

  • @maxsch8454
    @maxsch8454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Unless Charlotte from Devon would be happy to be forced into national service herself then she has no right to demand other people are.

  • @bobd9640
    @bobd9640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The Pensioners Party throwing young people under the bus, again.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      the only young people tories like are rent boys and call girls.

  • @jabezhane
    @jabezhane 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Allowing the young to help boost shareholder value in giving up their lives for dividends.

  • @oldskoolordie
    @oldskoolordie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    National service, Ukraine, heads for goalposts, fighting wars for the elites isn’t it?
    Marvellous.

  • @billpugh58
    @billpugh58 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Brexit must have gone really well if we need to reintroduce national service😂 the Brexiters are having a laugh at our expense again!

  • @Right_is_Wrong
    @Right_is_Wrong 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Well said. I'm ashamed of what my generation has done (and is still doing) to young people.
    As for ignorant kids, I've found that many youngsters are far better informed than the vast numbers of boomers who only get their news from the Mail or Express.

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks to the internet and the age of information that's true.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      well said!

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Youngsters have google that why. If boomers had an influx of negative or incorrect news then things might have been different

    • @RubbishGimpy
      @RubbishGimpy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their not. Kids are idiots but shills like you are happy to take blame for things you haven't done. It's this spinelessness why this Country is in the state thats its in.

    • @Right_is_Wrong
      @Right_is_Wrong 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Danxr-k4j Boomers also have Google but many of them are too lazy to use it or choose to live in their Mail and Express echo chambers.

  • @mattcollins9810
    @mattcollins9810 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "because I always do" for the win!

  • @i-am-vonnegut
    @i-am-vonnegut 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    how did you manage to get Brexit...err, because its been the biggest impacting effect in dog knows how long!

  • @Chrisnffc82
    @Chrisnffc82 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Is this all Sunak can come up with while he’s on his tour of Wetherspoon’s or is it a reaction to labour wanting votes for 16 year olds

  • @JohnShaw-zm2pc
    @JohnShaw-zm2pc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Vote out to help out. Run out of ideas. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @roddychristodoulou9111
    @roddychristodoulou9111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never a truer word spoken .
    Never ever again with the Tories .

  • @clydesimpkins7335
    @clydesimpkins7335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Marina hit the nail on head with her comments. The youth of today are disenfranchised and marginalised just for being young. Brexit and the option of Erasmus being taken away and lack of training, schools going down the toilet etc. What do you expect? They will be happy, content and greatful to be herded into National Service.
    I am 52 and when I was a teenager in the 80’s and early 90’s things were’nt exactly rosy and paved with Gold for the young ( the future adults) then. I remember being called a lazy sponger because I studied for my A Levels and went to Art College for my Diplomas in Graphic Design.
    Lack of guidance and motivation from some parents are part of the blame for some of the youth of today being feral and wayward. Plus this country has no pride in its past and culture today and we expect the young to uphold that and possibly fight for that.
    I am glad I have no children as I would be VERY WORRIED for their future considering the state of things today.

  • @d2ark73
    @d2ark73 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Last time we had national service it's just taught a generation to skive. Tory friends are the armed forces recruiter and supplier or military uniforms but I'm sure that had nothing to do with the announcement

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was labour who introduced national service in 1947. Tories had nothing to do with back then. It will kick some discipline into young kids straight out of school. The rest of Europe do it so surely the lefties of this country will agree with that

    • @drunkengamer1977
      @drunkengamer1977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@user-ys7fx6ld5g The 6 month old profile again. Is that you Rishi?

    • @davidhoward4715
      @davidhoward4715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Danxr-k4j And I am sure that you have exempted yourself from any form of national service. You are one of the self-entitled clowns who demand everything and contribute nothing.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Danxr-k4j Conscription started in 1939. Though the Daily Mail had a different uniform in mind.

    • @Danxr-k4j
      @Danxr-k4j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drunkengamer1977 how did you know?

  • @PhillipParr
    @PhillipParr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone that grew up anxious and poor, I don't think Europe had much of an effect on me. I stayed indoors, never went on holiday, and never caused a nuisance of myself. Now, obviously my case doesn't fit every every other case, but my answer on national service remains the same as when I was 18 - no. You don't boost morale and contribution in a population by making them do something, you do it be making it worth it.
    Think how much more productive we'd be as a society if people had clubs they could join relevant to their interests and free from a financial burden? All we do right now is churn out worker drones in the hope they they liked something enough to do it as a career path. No wonder that frustration often is directed towards "disrespect".

  • @scamwitness6594
    @scamwitness6594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I agree with her. I grew up in London and we had youth centers. Always lovely play parks to go to. She's completely right!

    • @johndavidson9023
      @johndavidson9023 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And who destroyed all the centres and all the play areas that were created for these kids, oh I know the kids themselves, no respect for it, soon got bored with it, always wanting something better. So no she’s not right.

    • @veganforever9703
      @veganforever9703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I 100© don't agree with her. Where I live we have parks to play in and lots to do but still have antisocial behaviour.

  • @PaulStevens-z8b
    @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I've often found it's some of the older generations who need lessons in respect. Not all young people are chavs. Well said Marina.

  • @missd2657
    @missd2657 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Charlotte say she is pro National Service because it will teach our youngsters some respect…at 18. If respect has not been taught much younger, then why start at 18? It would make more sense to invest this money into school. Firstly to stop them crumbling onto the students and then invest into teachers, well paid teachers will bring you the best there is out there. I'm not knocking current teaching staff, but the good ones are too streached and the bad ones are only getting the roles because others are willing to do the job for such low pay. Well paid teachers will invest time and skills into students and respect will naturally come.

    • @michealridgway7607
      @michealridgway7607 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sorry that makes to much sense

  • @psrpippy
    @psrpippy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Well done for bringing Brexit into the conversation. I hope you continue to bring it into every conversation, I bloody well do.

    • @RubbishGimpy
      @RubbishGimpy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For what purpose? Living in the past, doesn't fix the future. No matter the stance blaming Brexit doesn't solve the problems.

    • @hg82met
      @hg82met 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@RubbishGimpy If you can't identify the root of the problem, how will you ever solve it?

    • @drunkengamer1977
      @drunkengamer1977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@RubbishGimpy If you can't acknowledge the problem then it'll never be solved

    • @TheLampini
      @TheLampini 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's hard not to!

  • @michaelmouse4024
    @michaelmouse4024 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Marina - beauty and brains. No wonder the Torys don't like her.

  • @edsiebert5986
    @edsiebert5986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Marina, as someone who was (un)fortunate enough to go to school with the PM this "policy" (aka dog-whistling) is straight out of the Winchester College playbook. You had to undertake military service and/or community service there....the man is as bereft of ideas as he is of morals :(

    • @PaulStevens-z8b
      @PaulStevens-z8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did Sunak do military or community service?

    • @edsiebert5986
      @edsiebert5986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PaulStevens-z8b I honestly can't remember...we all had to do military service for our first year (year 9) and then for years 10, 11 & 12 you had the choice between community service or military service.
      Funnily enough I managed to skip out of most of the military service and then was very happy being a TA in primary schools!
      I was not friends with the man (he was a year older than me and we shared no common interests) and I hadn't thought of him for 20+ years when his name cropped up during Covid. The first words I thought of when I heard his name were "yes man"....he has always been devoid of ideas and character beyond the superficial.

  • @SteveStevieboy
    @SteveStevieboy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    We didn’t have youth clubs in our area in the 70’s but we didn’t take drugs or try stabbing eachother either! And this was South London no where posh. What we did do was play football with,yes you guessed it jumpers for goal posts, or cricket or rounders or a game called runouts! Anything to do with being outside with mates making the most of what we had👍🇬🇧

    • @robertgabrielaghenitei6675
      @robertgabrielaghenitei6675 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You killed each other on stadiums.

    • @jimweir6735
      @jimweir6735 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@robertgabrielaghenitei6675wtf and you on about. Do explain

    • @SteveStevieboy
      @SteveStevieboy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robertgabrielaghenitei6675 tosser

    • @SteveStevieboy
      @SteveStevieboy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robertgabrielaghenitei6675 try writing English!

    • @robertgabrielaghenitei6675
      @robertgabrielaghenitei6675 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SteveStevieboy It won't make you smarter.

  • @David_Baxendale
    @David_Baxendale 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The jumps a brain has to make to call a younger generation lazy and miss that you, as an older generation, are at least in part to blame, is hilarious.
    I'd flip it, it's not that younger people are lazy it's just that you are easy to convince that generalization is true and you maybe lack the critical thinking skills to look at the media you get evaluate it (and maybe go look stuff up but, well, it's easier to read a 5 minute article and then spend an hour complaining about it rather than 10 minutes looking in to what the article says).
    There are young people who are lazy, there are old people who are/were lazy and you'll find people like that in every age group.
    The only reason this is being pushed is to try and grab votes from the biggest group of voters, older people. The government do not older people to blame them for the last 14 years, so it has to be a lazy younger generation.
    They'd have rolled out single mothers taking council houses as well if then government hadn't failed to build more.
    The sad thing is, these older people have lived through our political system long enough to be able to see the pattern of blaming other that the conservatives roll out now and again. This is only my second time (first time was when Major was in charge) yet it seems easier and maybe more comfortable for them to blame the young than see the pattern.
    Why? Who knows, may be we have an older generation struggling with their place in the world. Life seems focused on young people and the older generation can't really pass on any knowledge these days as either they have zero idea what their kids do at work or the kids just check youtube.
    It's nothing knew, some people just decide to ignore it's happened before as it maybe makes them feel better.

  • @ImNealHunt
    @ImNealHunt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "You always bring it back to brexit" what? Are we supposed to just forget about that now are we?

    • @embalancer6146
      @embalancer6146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not like it was a once in a generational event that was voted for mainly by older voters and now took the opportunities they had away from young people. To the point that one of the reasons there wasn't a second referendum was because the governement were worried that the vote would have shifted simply due to the number of leave voters simply dying in the mean time.

    • @Baldieman1
      @Baldieman1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@embalancer6146 Thats it,lets slag off the only demographic it is ok to have a pop at,the more elderly.Maybe,just maybe,the vote went to brexit was due to the fact that there was a faith it would be implemented properly,and that some of us older lot have the scales removed from our eyes,are not brainwashed by whatever is the current "thing",and having seen how this country has changed for the worse over the decades,can look to a future where we have NO self determination from the unelected,snouts in the trough bureaucrats in the EU parliament,and every inch of these beautiful isles are built over with blocks of flats to accommodate the "newcomers",and wanted to save the country from this happening.

  • @martingreen5439
    @martingreen5439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sunak reminds me of Chris Evans in Captain America, before the change to super human!

    • @RubbishGimpy
      @RubbishGimpy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After the serum: Mr Potato Head.

  • @Alex-pk1iy
    @Alex-pk1iy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m not against the idea of national service per se, and I’m fully aware of the (very valid) arguments against it, but the way the tories are suggesting it be implemented is ridiculous. For me, it should be a choice between university, apprenticeship/ work or national service. I understand that is a very simplistic system, but mandatory national service vs community service is crazy, especially given the public school kids will just cough up the fines.

    • @johnmulligan912
      @johnmulligan912 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would be 2 tier as the kids from wealthier families would do community service and the kids from less fortunate families would more likely do military service as the would have to earn a wage.

  • @RogerWhite-r4b
    @RogerWhite-r4b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Love you Marina, keep ginin it between the eyes. It's about time that common sense and hard ass truth saw some daylight. Rock on!!

  • @jamessteel9016
    @jamessteel9016 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Marina nailing the boomers love it 🥰

    • @tomtheeagle1
      @tomtheeagle1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well I'm a "boomer" and I agree with her. So do plenty of others of my generation. The Tories are trying to pit us against each other with culture and generation wars. Please don't fall for this old political trick.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tomtheeagle1 sadly they dont. 70% voted for boris and to screw the young over for decades.

  • @richardurch446
    @richardurch446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Perhaps pensioners could do national service after all they’ve lived their lives , so maybe send them off to Ukraine to the front line save money on pensions 😂

    • @maskedavenger2578
      @maskedavenger2578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A lot of those pensioners have already served in the Armed forces ,& were grafting hard long hours & paying loads of taxes years before you were even born . Perhaps you could shift your entitled carcass ,& do one to the Ukraine 🔔end .

    • @richardurch446
      @richardurch446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maskedavenger2578 I forgot how dumb some people are , it’s obvious I thought , it’s a joke . FFS .

    • @richardurch446
      @richardurch446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maskedavenger2578 FYI I’m 71

    • @maskedavenger2578
      @maskedavenger2578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardurch446 Its obvious to me that not only are you not too bright , you are also very childish & need to grow up .

  • @johngreenhorn8853
    @johngreenhorn8853 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FFS we had youth clubs,open playing fields,football parks many other facilities and plenty to do when I was a youngster many many moons ago,me and most of my friends were still bunch of wee fannies we maybe had a wee bit more respect or probably fear of the police and our parents but that's about it,the moral of the story is you can have everything in the world and still be an idiot at that age.