I actually love your casting tysm good information you put out, good history of players to give context i LOVE your queen rhetoric like "BRENDA, WE'RE GETTING IN THE OVERLORD" love your guts, keep goin , much love
Crazy thing, just a few days ago, I was playing Protoss 2v2, because I'm not very good at Protoss on my own, and the enemy Protoss decided to go mass carriers. I went Tempests, destroyed most of the carriers, and won the match. I was so happy that I actually won a match legitimately.
i think he’s just burnt out and doesn’t care as much, think of that gsl vs scarlett when he’s 0-1 and goes for a cheesy all in instead of playing a macro game where he can more assuredly realize his skill edge
5 missile turrets getting god knows how many volleys off on the carriers for most of the fight, all of his stalkers and sentries getting emp'ed right as the fight started, vikings target firing from max range oneshotting carriers one by one. That wouldn't have been a good fight for herO even if he was up 40+ supply.
@@kainakrit9311 its amazing how relatively brainless terran hard counters are to protoss stuff. BC has built in TP, and one-shot nuke siege, true fight on retreat, and doesnt have to pay a single mineral after construction to attack. Protoss Carriers have to pay for low hp attackers that stop attacking when you retreat, have no burst damage, are not particularly tough, are slow, have no inbuilt tech at all... just... why? As soon as BC jump on you they are applying max damage to multiple targets until dead or out of range. Carriers have to launch their interceptors 1 at a time and their damage comes in multiple discrete packages that have relatively low damage meaning any defensive tech the opponent gets has a multiplicative level of efficiency against carriers.
Watching a pro get their ass beat by carriers makes it sting a tiny bit less every dang time it happens to me.At least we aren't alone my Terran and Zerg brethren.Oh yeah and keep doing what you're doing Winter.Love your content.It makes me content.
So... with widow mine drops, and banshees, why dont protoss drop a cannon in their mineral lines as standard? Wouldnt that pretty much eliminate the effectiveness of JUST a dropship with a mine or two, or a single raven dropping turrets?
a canon wont kill anything in time the mine will fire before it dies and Turrents from raven could get a probe or 2 before it dies considering that aturrent is essentially free there is no upside
@@10klewise this isn't true that a cannon won't kill a mine before it moves into position, burrows, then fires. Even if it was true the toss only has to pull probes for a second, and then the mine is gone.
@@streetstroller as the drop moves in the medivac absorbs some of the damage and all the mine needs to do is burrow and it will fire in time and as for pulling probes as you micro the front lines is just a prayer the main point of a mine drop is to split your attention and if the timing on the pull ain't perfect you just die
Still you just pull the probes until the canon clears the mine and not have to drag your army that your applying pressure with back to clear up one mine. And then the medivac is injured to reduce the chance of a new run by with the same medivac or to pick up the mine again before they drag the army back to clear it out.
Hi Winter, thank you for keeping the game alive with your excellent casting. I'm happily getting back into Starcraft II, after roughly a decade of absence. I only wish I had more time to watch
wow, the outplay at the beginning of game 5 where maru mistakenly picked up his army before killing the pylon completely screwed him and he never recovered from that blunder
So watching this game five you mentioned cyclones are a good follow-up to the old school engineering Bay block on the natural. What are some other good follow-ups with the pylon block for pro toss follow-up?
Its weird, Maru has just been on a losing streak. Like he won his last big GSL, decided that was plenty, and dropped down to the bottom quarter of GSL. Or am I misremembering something?
Maru has carpel tunnel and has been aging. He's past his prime and has been overtaken by Clem. It isn't just him either. It's all the classic Korean pros: Dark, HerO, and Maru have all declined. Solar is stepping up and getting better though, so I would argue he's the future of Korean pro SCII. However, he has a ways to go to compete with the EU players (Serral, Clem, MaxPax, Reynor, etc.)
@@ENZ2103 There is no influx of Korean pros either. SC1 is much more popular than SC2 in Korea, looking at how ASL is doing. Nobody new is going into SC2 in Korea, and that means there are no Koreans to replace the aging pros. This explains the decline of Korean dominance. If you remember in WoL, HotS and even early LotV, the Koreans were rampaging everywhere and there were many pros. Now, it's down to a handful of them, and they are barely winning any big tournaments.
@@jimmyha1898 Don't forget that GSL funding got cut severely, which is also a big part why a lot of Koreans don't really wanna jump into SC2 tournaments again
Medivac boost should cost energy. Terran should not be able to just pick up everything and boost into the main or get away with no punishment whatsoever.
don't know why but hero looks like a silver player compared to Maxpack and Raynor. just add 3 tempests to that mix and maru can't poke anymore. Around 47min
U.S. AirForce ads right next to Monster Energy in starcraft 2))) At first i thought that is a meme or something. But this is real))) This is so funny and pathetic in the same time xD Hey kid! do you like strategy games? how about kill some real people? we have joysticks too and its all like videogame! same thing!
Its shocking how much better the EU players are right now over the best from KR. Clem, Maxpax, Reynor, Serral are all so much faster. I would never bet against Dark though.
I actually love your casting tysm
good information you put out, good history of players to give context
i LOVE your queen rhetoric like "BRENDA, WE'RE GETTING IN THE OVERLORD"
love your guts, keep goin , much love
... get oFF MY **CREEP**
Some graceful play from our StarCraft senior citizens.
Mid-game seems to be preferable to their old bones
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Raynor's Protoss.
Look at that subtle 3 lane attack, the tasteful thickness of units. Oh my god his APM is 700
I'm gonna frame this comment
@@jaytea6516the tasteful thickness. I'm clenching right here
Oh my god, raynor doesn’t even ball up
Crazy thing, just a few days ago, I was playing Protoss 2v2, because I'm not very good at Protoss on my own, and the enemy Protoss decided to go mass carriers. I went Tempests, destroyed most of the carriers, and won the match. I was so happy that I actually won a match legitimately.
I've had a good day so far... this cast made it a little bit better.
I don't know... the more I see Maru play, the more I see he been doing worse and worse. He been struggling pretty bad this past year.
I keep wondering if it's his bad wrist 😢
Who knew injuries existed on esports
i think he’s just burnt out and doesn’t care as much, think of that gsl vs scarlett when he’s 0-1 and goes for a cheesy all in instead of playing a macro game where he can more assuredly realize his skill edge
Maru has become miniClem?!
@RedHoodRubyRose He won 2 GSL's this past year. I guess you meant "these past months",
Gotta love the Artosis Pylons. A meme that will never die.
lmao I felt that face palm at 33:10 much love Winter!
Thank You
Om nom nom
12:00 30 army supply difference , narrowly wins the fight with yamato coming in halfway through the battle
5 missile turrets getting god knows how many volleys off on the carriers for most of the fight, all of his stalkers and sentries getting emp'ed right as the fight started, vikings target firing from max range oneshotting carriers one by one. That wouldn't have been a good fight for herO even if he was up 40+ supply.
@@kainakrit9311 its amazing how relatively brainless terran hard counters are to protoss stuff. BC has built in TP, and one-shot nuke siege, true fight on retreat, and doesnt have to pay a single mineral after construction to attack. Protoss Carriers have to pay for low hp attackers that stop attacking when you retreat, have no burst damage, are not particularly tough, are slow, have no inbuilt tech at all... just... why? As soon as BC jump on you they are applying max damage to multiple targets until dead or out of range. Carriers have to launch their interceptors 1 at a time and their damage comes in multiple discrete packages that have relatively low damage meaning any defensive tech the opponent gets has a multiplicative level of efficiency against carriers.
Maru´s perk: All units gain +1 "amor". Spread the love!!!
A patrolling sentry… living up to its name 😂
Watching a pro get their ass beat by carriers makes it sting a tiny bit less every dang time it happens to me.At least we aren't alone my Terran and Zerg brethren.Oh yeah and keep doing what you're doing Winter.Love your content.It makes me content.
Oh you earned a like and sub just for the "nevermore, mister Raven"
The weirdest buddy cop movie ever 😂
So... with widow mine drops, and banshees, why dont protoss drop a cannon in their mineral lines as standard? Wouldnt that pretty much eliminate the effectiveness of JUST a dropship with a mine or two, or a single raven dropping turrets?
a canon wont kill anything in time the mine will fire before it dies and Turrents from raven could get a probe or 2 before it dies considering that aturrent is essentially free there is no upside
@@10klewise this isn't true that a cannon won't kill a mine before it moves into position, burrows, then fires. Even if it was true the toss only has to pull probes for a second, and then the mine is gone.
@@streetstroller as the drop moves in the medivac absorbs some of the damage and all the mine needs to do is burrow and it will fire in time and as for pulling probes as you micro the front lines is just a prayer the main point of a mine drop is to split your attention and if the timing on the pull ain't perfect you just die
Still you just pull the probes until the canon clears the mine and not have to drag your army that your applying pressure with back to clear up one mine.
And then the medivac is injured to reduce the chance of a new run by with the same medivac or to pick up the mine again before they drag the army back to clear it out.
@@okachobe1 but if mine fires you are now 8 to 12 probes down no amount of probe pulling can help you now
Hi Winter, thank you for keeping the game alive with your excellent casting. I'm happily getting back into Starcraft II, after roughly a decade of absence. I only wish I had more time to watch
15:00 flying a cc into a battlefield is part of mind game?
Today i saw winter revise a video title to remove the word "battlecruisers". Does he know that we instaclick on any thumbnail with a BC on it 🧐
wow, the outplay at the beginning of game 5 where maru mistakenly picked up his army before killing the pylon completely screwed him and he never recovered from that blunder
I didn't know Winter needed glasses. A true gamer indeed.
Everyone go back and watch Winters best of 2022 Video so that it gets enough views to justify him doing a best of 2023 video!
Only the fact that there is still 50 minutes left in the video gives me hope for Maru right now. Those first two games hurt!
What a lovely commentary, yet again!
Love your puns! And JIMMY!!!!! Love that part, hahaha
So watching this game five you mentioned cyclones are a good follow-up to the old school engineering Bay block on the natural. What are some other good follow-ups with the pylon block for pro toss follow-up?
Nevermore mr raven is the reference we needed
I liked and im a subscriber... thx for entertainmemt 🙏
awesome series to watch
Its weird, Maru has just been on a losing streak. Like he won his last big GSL, decided that was plenty, and dropped down to the bottom quarter of GSL. Or am I misremembering something?
Maru has carpel tunnel and has been aging. He's past his prime and has been overtaken by Clem. It isn't just him either. It's all the classic Korean pros: Dark, HerO, and Maru have all declined. Solar is stepping up and getting better though, so I would argue he's the future of Korean pro SCII. However, he has a ways to go to compete with the EU players (Serral, Clem, MaxPax, Reynor, etc.)
@@ENZ2103 There is no influx of Korean pros either. SC1 is much more popular than SC2 in Korea, looking at how ASL is doing. Nobody new is going into SC2 in Korea, and that means there are no Koreans to replace the aging pros. This explains the decline of Korean dominance. If you remember in WoL, HotS and even early LotV, the Koreans were rampaging everywhere and there were many pros. Now, it's down to a handful of them, and they are barely winning any big tournaments.
@@jimmyha1898 Don't forget that GSL funding got cut severely, which is also a big part why a lot of Koreans don't really wanna jump into SC2 tournaments again
Love you winter, never stop!
Medivac boost should cost energy. Terran should not be able to just pick up everything and boost into the main or get away with no punishment whatsoever.
herO, mass carrier, vs Maru... There's no combination of words that'll get me to click quicker 😂
Marus drop and bc pressure to stall for yamato is pretty smart
I don't understand why a lot of pros won't land their vikings to help out. They'd rather have them fly over the ground fight and get shot out the air.
best way to start the day while i get my coffee goin
Winter you seems to Joseph Gordon, tha actor
Carriers are to Protoss as Ultralisks are to Zerg.
@4:06 i see what u did there mr. poe
Repair should take much longer and cost much more.
Why lol Protoss have shield batteries and overcharge and Zerg have transfuse which is instant
pray for protoss win
Great series
HerOoo 💙
What happened to Maru man? He used to be untouchable
Comment for the algorithm.
lol I guessed the number 1220 before u said 1217 I was so close lol
There is no Jimmy. Jimmy is a lie
love jegg the hellion
don't know why but hero looks like a silver player compared to Maxpack and Raynor. just add 3 tempests to that mix and maru can't poke anymore. Around 47min
can we plz get a hero vs harstem on barcods game ?
Seeng maru in 6th hurts my eyes
arm chair YT comment but what if... Pulse Crystals for phoenix also increased stalker range at same time... *cough*
I think there should be some kind of mechanic for protoss to repair thier hull damage
Hello 👋 can anybody give me tips on how to beat skytoss as a terain?🤷♂️ I played so many games and I never beaten them 😭
In my mind. harstem is the best protoss player ever
sad to say, but after see Clem, Maru looks slow and predictable
gg's
Starcraft is sponsored by the American airforce?
it is refreshing to see protoss get a win
U.S. AirForce ads right next to Monster Energy in starcraft 2))) At first i thought that is a meme or something. But this is real))) This is so funny and pathetic in the same time xD
Hey kid! do you like strategy games? how about kill some real people? we have joysticks too and its all like videogame! same thing!
What a disgusting Viking terran, 9 attack range, nothing in the air can against that ship and it is very cheap
Maru looking bad and protoss looking like a chew toy.
Jeghgh with two gs.
I think Mira may have a girlfriend now lol
I hope youre actually able to live of this, AND be able to set of a little something for retirement.
This commentary is 1001 % pro..
Marus not playing so well
Its shocking how much better the EU players are right now over the best from KR. Clem, Maxpax, Reynor, Serral are all so much faster. I would never bet against Dark though.
I cannot like the video... it is at 1337 :(
maru fell off