Rich Eisen on Whether the Bills Can Win the AFC East without Stefon Diggs | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Rich Eisen and the guys weigh in on the AFC East picture and how much/if Bills QB Josh Allen will miss All-Pro WR Stefon Diggs.
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Josh Allen saying- I have confidence in our new guys
Josh Allen thinking- I loved him when he helped build me up. I tolerated him when he got up in my face. I stopped missing him after he dropped a 4th quarter go ahead TD pass, in a 3point, divisional round loss to the Chiefs !
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Exactly
Josh took the bills to the playoffs with John brown and Cole beasley.. they will win the division again with more diversity in the wr room
Beasley was a hell of a receiver. He caught everything that was thrown his way...
…and Diggs
Who Dey who dey
@@ImYoutubing247 Diggs was not on the team in 2019. Thanks though
@@blakeley38 is this a saints thing?
They DID win the AFC East without him. Check his production on their win streak.
Diggs did his best John Cena impression the last 10 week. People forget the number one receiver during that time was Khalil Shakir.
Correct!
100% non gactor
Winning the AFC East is like having the fastest sailboat. It’s something, but just not that impressive.
Did they not win without him the last 10 games of last year?????
Yeah he disappeared and started playing by their best of the season.
basically, 6-1 to close out the season and he had 315 yards 1 td 34 rec
He’s 31 , is it possible diggs ran out of gas as the season wore on? I’ll bet anything on it and the team stayed away from him for it!
@@stefanosoderi4152 he still had 94 targets in the last 11 games, he just didn't do anything with them
Agreed!
My brother and I bet on this. He seems to believe that Josh can't go the playoffs without Diggs. But as great as Diggs is. Josh Allen is no longer forced to throw like 40 times a game under Ken Dorsey
Josh already made the playoffs without diggs, before he got this good, and while Brady was still a patriot lol. The bills will be fine
Already did, and in his first season starting no less. Tell your bro I’m sorry but that’s a really, really bad take. Bills missing playoffs completely is great odds so he better bet that.
You will owe your brother money
Remind your brother last year we went to the playoffs without Diggs.
People who think Diggs made Allen forget Diggs was nowhere near the production he had with Allen in Minnesota. And I don’t remember Diggs running for all those 1st downs and TDs.
If Brandon Beane decided to pay $31 million and not have Diggs on the team as opposed to paying $28 million and keep Diggs, he was clearly a locker room problem.
So which player are they gonna scapegoat this year when they inevitably get knocked out of the playoffs?
The real problem isn’t any of the players, it’s mcdermott. That fake punt call? Prevent defense against mahomes with 13 seconds?
McDermott has made some questionable calls in clutch moments, but he's a big reason the Bills turned it around after the 17 year playoff drought. I've got absolutely no hate for McDermott
@nickh2935 easy to criticize when a fake punt doesn't work. If it does work, greatest call in postseason history. Those are the chances you take.
No teammate on any team says hes a lockeroom problem. Not only that he’s was a captain last year and on every team he’s been on. Cole Beasley just said in an interview glowing about Diggs as a teamate.
Sometimes you have to read between the lines and actions speak louder than words.....like the extra money they are paying to not have Diggs on the team. Bills players are too smart to publicly complain about him. Beasley might genuinely think he was a good teammate though. The problems might have started after he left.
Josh Allen arguably has better offensive weapons this year than he did last year.
I agree. Stephen Diggs was done being great in Buffalo. Either his talent dropped off or attitude either way he wasn't good there anymore
Hell no
Well see. My moneys on Miami
You gotta be kidding me right 😂😂😂
@@kameronjones6633 Hell yes. 0 WR's after DIggs. Gabe Davis, Deonte Harty, Trent Sherfield , Shakir vs Samuel, Shakir, MVS, Coleman, Hollins. Shakir had a better end half on less targets than Diggs. Gabe never had over 50 receptions and Coleman for sure will. Samuel gets 60+ receptions with horrible QB's. Hollins will contribute more than Harty or Sherfield. James Cool and Kincaid are 1 year older. Bills are much better on offense especially w/o the drama.
Tua stans were mad that you left him off a list regarding who you’d want at QB on a game winning drive when he literally lost the division in Week 18 by throwing an interception on a game winning drive… lmaooo
Tua stans are always mad because fins fans are delusional. I’m glad they paid him though. Guarantees 4 more years of Buffalo winning the division
it was the Dophins last drive of the game , down 7 .. not game winning
Rooting for Tua is an act of faith, and would drive anybody permanently mad.
@@louisberatta1371 yeah it's impossible to score 8 points in one possession
But oh, how we love to be mad.
I was at camp yesterday and the Bills receivers are going to do just fine. Keon is fantastic, and Kincaid is going to be the TE that everyone talks about this year.
Diggs will be 31 in Nov. The Stefon Diggs era in Buffalo was coming to an end one way or the other. Certainly as a WR1, and I don't know if he has the temperament to be a WR2 or slot WR3. The Bills TE will be better this year (TE's always take more time to develop than WR) and Keon Coleman should be very good right out of the gate.
Good luck keeping up with the track meet.... bills are 5-1 against tua and 10-2 vs the fish under JA17. The bills havent lost enough to change that, and the fish havent improved enough.
I think Josh has lost two games to the fish. Week 3 in 2022 down in Miami when it was 130 degrees in the sun, and Josh’s first season when Charles Clay dropped a game winning TD pass on fourth down.
Miami will beat them both times this year. No games in the snow
@brandonthompson8039 the snow never helped buffalo beat Mia. Tuas weak arm and mistakes are what make the fish lose to Buff. The bills will take both, no games in the sun and the fish will be down down 2 key linebackers game 2.
@@brandonthompson8039 lmao. remind me what year it was the last time miami beat buffalo twice in 1 year.. and while your at it remind me what year it was the last time miami won a playoff game.
You do realize a Dolphins isn’t a fing fish right??? Dolphins will crush the Bills this year!!!!
With Josh Allen, they certainly can!
Rich Eisen, you have to be the most reasonable sports guy out there. You are able to talk about every player and every team without offending anyone. It’s pretty awesome. Kind of like Al Michaels calling football games is able to do that. I appreciate you and your show.
Josh Allen is a monster. As a chief fan. I don't want to see him in the playoffs, that's for sure
Why not? Free win for the Chiefs
3-0
@@work4whatyouwant477the bills have beat the chiefs each of the last 3 seasons at arrowhead in the regular season, it’s not just a gimme win for the chiefs
@@work4whatyouwant477 If the bills didn't have a literal practice squad defense for playoffs the bills probably would've won
@@work4whatyouwant477mahomes has been outplayed by Josh Allen every matchup since 2020.
JOSH ALLEN .NFL ..MONSTER
Let them sleep on us. I’m glad we’re not in the spotlight
We don't need/want all the media attention. This might be our year
The media has been giving the Bills a tongue bath for like 6 years now. What are you talking about?
Umm, Buffalo has this guy named Josh Allen who is phenomenal and can be the MVP of the league every year. So yea, they will excel every year with that guy at the helm.
But he never wins mvp
@@marcusfrazier20but he's always in the convo
@@marcusfrazier20an indictment on the MVP selection process.
Umm,the echo in Buffalo’s trophy case is real.
@@Lucky77-hh7rs Patrick Mahomes.
The family feud thing was hilarious
Everyone is excited to see Josh and Coleman but don't sleep on Samuel. We may see a Pro Bowl year out of Samuel. Top 5 receiver in the NFL kinda season. Watch.
I’m a dolphins fan and yes the bills are gonna win again bc that’s what they always do
Dolphins win this year for sure!!!!
Don’t lose hope!!! I’m thinking we split home games this year
I think the Bills can win the division, but it's gonna be tougher than last year.
And last year they had to gain 3 games in the final 5 weeks. Not sure how they can win it and be tougher than last year.
Last year was tough enough!
Misses Diggs the player but really misses Gabe Davis the person. Still rooting for both of them. But above all.. Go Bills
The Allen-Diggs combo worked, until it didn't. I think Diggs kind of psyched Josh out with his demands to always be targeted. Diggs really helped Josh develop, and I respect him for that. But he started to prevent Josh from reaching the next level. Josh has an array of targets now, with Dalton Kincaid ready to have an amazing year. I also expect Diggs to flourish in Houston. I respect how long-time Jet's fan, Rich Eisen, respects the Bills. This is now 100% Josh's team.
Barring a major injury to JA, the Bills are winning the division again. Look at what happened after Joe Brady took over as OC last season. 1) they went 8-1 and 2) Diggs was an afterthought. The guys who thrived after Brady took over (Kincade, Shakir & Cook) are all still on the team. I get that (maybe?) Diggs still commanded a lot of the D's attention, but not to the degree that the skeptics think. This Bills team is going to be tough to beat.
As a Bills fan, I'm not worried abt Stefan diggs being gone at all. He was not a large part of our success last year especially when we ran the table at the end to get the 2 seed. And the winning formula we developed at that part of the season doesn't require a player like Stefon. I'm completely confident that were gonna win the division again. Tua so clearly doesn't have it in him to be the difference maker, the Jets will be imploding by Week 10 as always, and the Patriots are (finally) a non factor.
He didn't miss him the second half of the season. What was Allen supposed to say. Diggs is a great player but we got something going here, we'll be okay, everybody eats.
Lol; nobody ever said "wish we had Geno" for this drive. LMAO!
As a Bill's fan, in recent years, many 3rd and longs, Diggs was the go to guy, and money.
Nurse, it is when he was healthy. They were all in on him, but after he got injured, they didn’t think much.❤❤
Think there is some real revisionist history going on here. Diggs and Allen famously did hang out and game together. There were a ton of puff pieces about it at the time, I can recall at least one big story in the Ringer about their special bond built through online gaming. Not saying that the relationship didn't go sour, but Brockman claiming they didn't ever vibe is inaccurate.
I think it’s funny how the media doubted Patrick Mahomes when he lost Tyreek but are for certain Josh Allen will do the same. Mind you, Patrick was a MVP, Super Bowl MVP and champion already and they still doubted him.
I don’t have the stats in front of me, but I am guessing that Hill was responsible for a larger percentage of Mahomes’ passing yards the year prior to his leaving than Diggs was last year for Josh. Could be wrong, but it sure seemed that way.
@@saraegan1757 got to remember what Josh looked like before Diggs got there. He wasn’t the same QB he is now. Tyreek was a baller with Alex Smith. He didn’t make that jump until Patrick became a starter. It shouldn’t be a certainty that Josh will be the same guy without Diggs is what I’m saying. He doesn’t have the resume Mahomes has and ppl still doubted Patrick.
@@saraegan1757 hell they still credit Andy Reid more that Patrick even tho Andy didn’t become a champion until he got Patrick.
@@Cbyjohn Josh literally changed his entire throwing mechanics before Diggs got there. while every QB (especially young ones) could use a top tier WR, Diggs isn't solely responsible for Josh becoming what he is like so many make it out to be.
@@khdcraven he wasn’t talked about like this until he got Diggs, regardless if he changed his throwing mechanics. He made the leap due to having a true number one. The same can be said about Joe Burrow and Chase. We saw what those guys was doing before getting a number one receiver. We can’t act like they didn’t benefit from that. Josh gets to prove it this year.
How many years in are you gunna fall for the September Super Bowl champ dolphins lol
Bills will NOT miss diggs mark my words!
Josh Allen looks like the son of Arthur Smith😂
I hope they keep overlooking the Bills. We play better as the underdog.
Bills 11-6
Dolphins 10-7
Jets 8-9
Patriots 4-13
Superman reference Hahha dig it, Rich!
BACK-TO-BACK TO BACK-TO-BACK TO BACK! Yabish
I’d bet against the Bills winning the East strictly for value, but if I need to win this bet no matter the odds it’s one of the safer bets you can make. Bills are easily the best team, it’s not even close really.
Dolphins are a better team than the Bills!!! Dolphins have a lot more firepower on offense than the Bills!!!
Do people forget Allen and the Bills went to the playoffs without Diggs
I think the vibe is different because they're kind of flying under the radar this year. They're still expected to be good, but not great as in previous years. There is less expectation, therefore, less weight to carry, which can be beneficial.
Geno Dak Tua….😂😂😂😂😂
Josh very clearly selected words for diggs (very talented & bring the juice) and for his squad (work hard & get along) we will see if it holds if they start losing but very clearly not worried about it.
One thing Allen can do ..to shut up all doubters .go..undefeated ..for 1 year ..with mad numbers...raise the SB .and MVP ..trophies
Still wouldn't shut up nick wright😂
that woulda been a killer bit if you told your crew the Family Feud "show me 'potato salad'...." punchline ahead of time. Clapping together is required.
🎉🎉
GO BILLS!
Curtis Samuel hasnt had a decent QB since he played with Cam Newton, i can see him hitting close to 1000 this season, also theres Knox and Kincaid (who can line up anywhere), and Mr. Coleman looks like hes turning into a beast in practice, Josh still has weapons, Diggs wasnt the whole team.
Yall make JA so polarizing.
In what way
@@donfigalo7659 it’s football he’s constantly talked about, everything the dude says which isn’t a lot is parsed to death. His diggs comment was blasted by someone else cause tv. They just love talking about him. And as a bills fan he hasn’t won anything yet.
Miami made a massive mistake signing Tua. They won't be able to pay the talent needed to make Tua good long term.
Dropped the pass last yesr...
Nobody else hearing the mic ringing/feedback when Rich talks?
That's why I say hey man nice shot.
I'm glad he at least opened with acknowledging the push back. Because Geno did play well in the clutch last season if we're going by comeback wins, even if that offense was a disappointment as a whole from the year prior. Really excited to see their new OC at work.
Even Drew Lock got himself a game winning drive last year! Seattle has lots of good pieces but was definitely ready for the head coach change. Plus the offense should benefit from the defense not being among the worst in the league.
@@johnchedsey1306 Yeah I loved Pete and I think people didn't understand how much following the LOB era he was really keeping this team competitive when it had no right to be, but at the same time it was extremely frustrating for him to put together a gameplan against a real title competitor, winning it, and then playing like also-rans or down to the level of lesser teams. His defense last year had no excuse playing that poorly in my mind, as teams just gobbled up yards. I don't think the game had "passed him by" as a lot of others say, because the fact he kept winning showed he was plenty capable as a overall coach. But I think he was overdue to get some real fundamental changes to his defensive logic especially as the teams in his division all went offensive HC to seemingly counter his approach. I'm emotionally mixed as someone who really liked the guy. But incredibly excited to see a hot new DC at HC come in and also bring Frazier in to ease the transition to the position of top dog.
Grubbs coming in and recognizing that they just weren't designing plays for their playmakers, but telling them to fit roles that didnt make sense in order to make the offense "correct" instead of work under Waldron, has me just as optimistic. This is a team that may not jump in the win column much, but could dramatically improve in the columns that help establish those wins.
I’ll preface with my Dolphins fan bias but, it’s not just losing Diggs that’s gonna hurt the Bills this year. It’s all the guys they lost on the Defense. I have no doubt that Josh Allen will still be great, always liked him as a qb. I just feel like the Bills might be playing from behind more, and I don’t know if their new weapons can make up for what they lost
Of course they CAN. Anyone who loses a bet on that is pretty dopey. The question is, WILL they? We will find out after they play the games.
- Giants?
- Please
😂🤣😂🤣
Yeeeep. Loaded up w bills futures. 10/1 to win AFC. 22/1 for Super Bowl and 10/1 for Allen MVP 💰
Rich doesn't favor any team in his analysis. He cares about being objective and telling the truth.
I’m okay with Buffalo now winning the division but to say there’s no shot is crazy
Miami having worse odds than Buffalo is crazy talk? Are you insane? Miami couldn't win the division last year, have no pass rush, lost their best defensive line, and their best offensive lineman. As for the Jets... Old, declining QB coming off injury behind an old, injury prone line, hoping an injury prone WR2 stays healthy? Yea... no shot.
Keep up with the track meet? They were as fast last year and in the two games the Bills outscored them 69 to 34.
I'd say only New England has no shot to win the AFC east. Things change fast from year to year. Miami's problems from last year may not exist this year (or they might find new ones..that's why we watch games)
Who asks if a grown man would miss another grown man that isn't related or a long time friend... especially a coworker...😂
I'm hoping the mantra in Beane's office is "no more divas." (And no more little WRs)
It's the D they lost that is more concerning....Losing a me-first guy is no great loss
Funnily enough, the Bills will probably play more smashmouth football than the Chargers this year.
Im so exhausted with this notion that Diggs was the lynch pin in the Bills offense and now that he is gone things will crumble; the offense basically reinvented itself after Joe Brady took over and Diggs was slowly erased and now Allen doesnt have obsesse over thinking about how he has to force feed Diggs targets, lest he get angry with him. The whole vibe of the team is so much more postive and relaxed now, Allen included. No one has to walk on egg shells and Shakir and Kincaid look unreal, Kincaid barely lets the ball hit the ground, the dude catches everything thrown his way. The offense will be fine, and we will see if the defense can compliment that offense, but quit throwing dirt on the Bills.
Wasn't Brockman saying the Bills are toast right after the Diggs trade? 😂
Yes but to be fair things are different now. The offensive core -Diggs, is looking pretty sharp in training camp.
@@stevewest6133😂😂😂
The last 2 years the Bills were overrated now they are underrated
I prefer the latter
Im more concerned with the secondary, its whole different squad without Hyde and Power, and I can’t say for the better. But McD is a defensive minded coach so we shouldn’t worry right. He turned them into stars, hopefully he can with Rapp and Hamlin.
By week 6 Josh is going to be even better than he was last year and diggs is going to be crying about how stroud isn’t getting him the ball enough
Josh is definitely Andy Dwyer with a mustache
They lost way more than just Diggs, but with a healthy good qb you can still stay in games.
They lost guys who've been playing sporadically, not at all, working back from injuries, and/or declining since 2021. They brought back players who played heavy minutes in their late 2023 surge and playoff run.
@@stevewest6133not to mention they are getting Milano and Bernard back to start the year. One of the best linebacker duos in the NFL.
The bills are going to be better than last year!
I’m a bills fan, the fear is not allen and the offense , it’s defense (Safety’s)
Bills are the last wildcard team IMO they have the toughest schedule IMO and he wont miss diggs he could make a run to the super bowl hes top 5
Alot of talk in the comments, but it really remains to be seen if the WR core will show up or not. We had to get rid of Diggs unfortunately, it wasn't working anymore. Wish him well.
I mean kind of ignoring Green Bay threatening the Lions, a Healthy Burrow with Cinncy threatening the Ravens. Miami lead the East most of the year until they didn’t. I’d argue this could be Allen’s best year when he doesn’t have to funnel targets to Diggs who struggled for the back half of the year last year.
Who cares if they win the afc east the question is will they ever make a Superbowl if not they should rebuild because at this point its you tried you failed
I suppose they should just trade Josh then, huh?
This ain’t a video game kiddo, let’s do better w/the football analysis.
Coping much?
If your fine being the cowboys then good for you@@chetjablonski1993
Lots of cap room next year...
@@chetjablonski1993 if your fine being the cowboys then good for you
Go Bills! 🦬🏈❄️
That’s not crazy talk. Bills AFC East champs again.
The only thing more annoying then the constant “Josh isn’t a top 2 or 3 qb in the league” talk is whatever is beeping at a high pitched frequency in Rich’s studio. My god, I’m sure you old men can’t hear that anymore, but it’s mind numbing.
1st day of preseason, and rich invites Jessica alba to talk about home interior design.
WHAT ARE WE DOING????????? 😮😮
I'm for it 🔥
They will win the AFC East again. How far they get in the playoffs who knows.
is good in imagination until you see that other players don't get double team and the box is stack.
Miami's biggest problem is Mike Mc Daniel. He makes no adjustments went DCs have answer for his game plan.
Why is this show all of a sudden counting out the bills since Diggs left ? He didn’t do anything for the team last year except drop a pass to beat the Chiefs in the post season.
We shall see
100% a Bills fan
Bills are not a lock - it's a tough division, and a lot of kids are gonna have to step up for us to remain a great team; we have to bring home more dubs in the division next season
That said, *IF* we get back the Winter Soldier that was Josh Allen in Daboll's final season as OC and he tied the NFL record by throwing TD passes to 13 different players during the regular season? It might be over for y'all.....cuz the personalities are completely different, the offense seems to be embracing some form of McDermott's "nameless faces" mantra. Which I'm intrigued by, cuz that's a Buffalo vibe all day, and it may just work out well. Time will tell
Buffalo needs to trust its youth some more. Bernard didn’t play until he absolutely had to. Dorian W. - same story. Elam’s on the field every now and then and he’s got a track record of making opposing QBs pay for picking on him.
The Chiefs play their young guns more earlier on in the season more so than a lot of teams, including the Bills. Come postseason, the added regular season reps Chiefs young players got pays off because they are more experienced in different in-game situations.
When Brady said it’s Allen’s offense, that’s an incredible compliment and nod to Allen’s superb understanding of the offense and what the individual players are best at doing.
The Bills will be more balanced on offense this season more than ever, and the offensive line is one of the most cohesive units Allen’s ever had.
I’m most concerned about the defensive line. Oliver really broke out last year, but that was last year. 50, 91, and the boys gotta get pressure consistently and cause issues early on and the defense will be rolling fine.
By week 9, the Bills receiving corps and the other parts that underwent a lot of change will be solidified.
Injuries will happen. One of the ways to offset injuries is to play your depth pieces more in real games. Let the rookies and two year players get more valuable reps in the regular season so that when you make it to the postseason, it’s not all a big shock.
Also, it’s Khalil Shakir (Kah-Leel Sha-Keer)
Give J A his Market Value Pay Day
The media is still talking about diggs in Buffalo and he doesn't even play there anymore. Beat a dead horse much?
I got rodgers and purdy in the super bowl i hope the jets win the division
you dont really believe its miami world LMAOOOO
It's kind of crazy to me cuz the Bills team this season is the same one that ended last season. Diggs wasn't doing anything &or a part of the offense after week-9. We all saw how good they could be &at least offensively the roster is better this year than it was last season. They don't have a true #1-wideout but they have three different #2-WRs and that's not including MVS or Chase Claypool (who's playing for his football life) Best tight-end-duo in the league &above average run game &the 2nd best QB in the NFL, personally I really like that team
I’m not even trying to hate I just genuinely don’t see it without Diggs 🤷🏻♂️
Get your eyes checked
One more thing. I predict Tua being benched by week 5 being 0 and 4. And Rich, please tell your guy there is no player named Dalton Knoxx. LOL!
Everyone saying they won the division well how hard was it when the division sucked?😂
BASS MISSED THE KIK
Soooooo were not talking about the mustache?
Bbbbaaasss u must go
The Jets are easily winning that division. They went 7-10 last year without a qb. They will dominate with Rodgers healthy.
Gee how will we replace Diggs 43 ypg average for the last 10 games when we went on a tear including beating KC in arrowhead (again). Stef is great but Bills will still score their usual 30pts a game average as they have for the past four years.